I think the graphics look fine, and the scale of the world's some of the best I've seen in computer gaming in general. Truly the animation is what's selling me. I wasn't in beta, the jerks, so I'm not sure how it'd look on my no dated 4 year old former gaming machine and if I'd agree. What vids I've seen just being able to see what everyone is doing without the need of a graphic popping up and saying what's happening is nice and the style chose represents it well. Graphics least of my worries for this game.
I used to play MMOs like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee.
Perhaps not technically state of the art but they use some kind of blur filter which makes the background/world look a bit like an oil painting. Looks good, great even.
Still, I hope there are some higher resolution textures available especially sicne the game should be around for many years to come. What looks good now, wil look not so good in two years time. I also noticed in other videos the buildings and such are not as high res as they seem in the early trailers. (because in those trailers they camera kept moving and floating around)
TBH, I always thought that the graphics and art were one of the highest points of GW2, so I'm surprised to see this topic. But I guess to each his own. I am curious though, OP, what MMORPG do you think has better graphics than GW2?
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The included OP mmorpgs, I don't like most of their graphics/visuals on a purely pick your preferred scale: A, B, C or D GW2 eg.
The graphics look fine, it's the asian-styled aesthetics I'm not a huge fan of. Not a deal breaker, but I prefer a much more european look for my games.
It doesn't look remotely asian.
The characters come across as asian styled to me as well, although not necessarily the environments. The Asura are as pokemonesque as you can get...
That race is almost a deal breaker for me. Let's hope it won't be popular..
The screenshots aren't photoshopped. As far as the distance appearing photoshopped that's just the LOD system converting it into a 2D image so your framerates don't die in a fire from trying to render all those polys in the distance.
The game is beautiful.. probably the best I've seen of any MMO to date.
The graphics look fine, it's the asian-styled aesthetics I'm not a huge fan of. Not a deal breaker, but I prefer a much more european look for my games.
It doesn't look remotely asian.
The characters come across as asian styled to me as well, although not necessarily the environments. The Asura are as pokemonesque as you can get...
That race is almost a deal breaker for me. Let's hope it won't be popular..
This Thread and any like it are pure stupid. Are you really going to complain about the graphics of a game. Like Really, now i didnt really take the time to read the OP but REALLY like seriously that has got to be the worst and most retard thing to complain about for a game. Now i will agro that Everquest, DAOC, and other games like it are out of date but if the fun is there that shouldnt matter. With that being said this games not even out yet, let alone been played by you, and if you have played it which im gonna take a wild guess probally not then how can you say somthing as stupid as that. Complain about its bugs, or maybe its lack of world exploration, or even bad gameplay but dont say oh well the graphics look like crap because this games graphics are slightly better. THey had a style they picked and went with it, doesnt mean its the best but it is new. I may have jumped around a bit because that just how i think haha. Anyway, I dont know what it is but stupid shit like this just drives me crazy.
I ve watched alot of gameplay vids and looked at the screenshot
I stopped right there.
You're completely clueless.
Until you've played beta or live, these types of ridiculous opinions are best kept to yourself.
Why? That's what I did and it was enough for me to know that this is one beautiful game. No reason why someone can't do the same thing and see something else entirely. It's been happening since the first videos started hitting YouTube, after all.
The graphics look fine, it's the asian-styled aesthetics I'm not a huge fan of. Not a deal breaker, but I prefer a much more european look for my games.
It doesn't look remotely asian.
The characters come across as asian styled to me as well, although not necessarily the environments. The Asura are as pokemonesque as you can get...
That race is almost a deal breaker for me. Let's hope it won't be popular..
Asura race FTW !
They remind me of Stitch
Yeah, the whole pokemon angle is, well -- I just don't get it, but I'm forced to admit that they remind me of Stitch too. Some of them at least. Others remind me of little land sharks who want to gut me and feast on my innards. Those ones are pretty cool.
Don't get me wrong, I've sworn off defending this game, however, have you ever watched a video of gameplay, and then played said game? I don't care what resolution, gameplay video NEVER does justice to actual gameplay.
arguably something like The Secret World has better looking graphics than Guild Wars 2 (well it does especially with scenery, lighting and monsters, maybe not with char animations)
BUT theres a price
150 people in the persistent pvp zone - vs 500 in each of GW2s
arguably something like The Secret World has better looking graphics than Guild Wars 2 (well it does especially with scenery, lighting and monsters, maybe not with char animations)
BUT theres a price
150 people in the persistent pvp zone - vs 500 in each of GW2s
the same applies to the big DEs like the dragons
GAMEPLAY > SHINYNESS
the better the gfx the more chance the game is going tera is kind of an exception
Graphical fidelity doesn't matter to me, artistic direction does. I'm not saying this as a fan, even though I am, but... it's something I've felt for a long while. I mean, look at the Dreamcast and games like Skies of Arcadia and Ecco: Defender of the Future. If you play them today, they stil look absolutely incredible. Now, a game can have a lack of both, I've seen games and MMORPGs that do, but ArenaNet is an arthouse developer, they've got as many artists as Obsidian has writers (probably more). This game is going to be looking good for a long time to come.
If you look at the inverse, you'll see a different picture. Take a look at Mortal Online, Vanguard: Saga of Heroes, Darkfall, and a number of PC optimised games. They have high graphical fidelity, they have all the shaders, and some of them even have all of the tessemellation, but they look like arse. The models are poorly proportioned, the locations are unimaginative, everything looks desaturated, everything looks too plastic because they don't know how to use that high-end engine they bought, and so on.
What I see is this: Skies of Arcadia, a Dreamcast game, looks miles better than Vanguard: Saga of Heroes.
If I had to choose between one or the other, as I feel we often do, then I'd choose Skies of Arcadia. Something can run on an old engine, or be ancient, and it can still look wonderful. Let me give you another example of a game which emphasises art direction over graphical fidelity, it doesn't have all the shaders, it doesn't have billions of polys, but does it ever look incredible.
(I apologise for the music, not my choice, but the video does make for a nice showcase regardless of how amateur it is.)
So... does it matter that Guild Wars 2 looks a little old in the graphical fidelity department? Not at all, not to me, not even remotely to me. See, I'm the kind of person who'd pay good money for games which looked as wonderful as Skies of Arcadia, Ecco, or Uru did these days. I find that too many people these days turn graphical fidelity into some sort of weird fetish (the original meaning of the word, being a very focused obsession).
Personally, I don't get the appeal. Graphical fidelity makes things a little sharper, it adds layers of detail, but does it make things look good? Not really. Graphical fidelity is sometimes like finding an expressionistic painting and then deciding to 'fill in all the details.' Sometimes you're better off without it.
What I'm getting at here is that fidelity has next to nothing to do with how good something looks.
The only reason fidelity exists is because marketing companies have convinced gullible people that they need better graphiics cards in order to make games look 'epic.' But show me one modern game that looks as visually enthralling as Skies of Arcadia did - you can't. That's because too many developers these days have gotten caught up in the graphical fidelity fetishistic circlejerk.
Too few people appreciate actual art direction.
And no, WoW isn't a valid argument here, because WoW lacks both good art direction and graphical fidelity, it's just lazy. As an artistic person myself, WoW frequently makes me tweak. Have you seen their werewolves? They look like rats eating twigs. But I digress. The fact of the matter is is that in the games industry, we often have either graphical fidelity, strong artistic direction, or neither.
I really don't think they are that bad. By today's MMO standards, I think they are above most games. And to be fair, a game that takes 4-5 years will have "outdated" graphics about 6 months into the project lol.
Enter a whole new realm of challenge and adventure.
There is nothing wrong with the graphics or the draw distance. The way the backgrounds get rendered with a painting like effect seems to translate poorly on the videos. If you look up some of the high resolution screens from the game, the engine is pretty impressive, as are the high resolution textures.
This image shows that effect pretty nicely. The texture on the nearest building is very detailed, but as you look down the street in the background the buildings look more like a painting the further from the camera you get. The just doesn't translate in the videos: (Click for full resolution).
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I think the graphics look fine, and the scale of the world's some of the best I've seen in computer gaming in general.
Truly the animation is what's selling me. I wasn't in beta, the jerks, so I'm not sure how it'd look on my no dated 4 year old former gaming machine and if I'd agree. What vids I've seen just being able to see what everyone is doing without the need of a graphic popping up and saying what's happening is nice and the style chose represents it well.
Graphics least of my worries for this game.
I used to play MMOs like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee.
I actually like the graphics and style, maybe not top-notch but not bad either, effects suck ass though, they bother me to no end lol.
Animations are 50/50 some I like others I hate.
I assume most ppl that are commenting on the graphics quality of the game are basing this purely on youtube.
Perhaps not technically state of the art but they use some kind of blur filter which makes the background/world look a bit like an oil painting. Looks good, great even.
Still, I hope there are some higher resolution textures available especially sicne the game should be around for many years to come. What looks good now, wil look not so good in two years time. I also noticed in other videos the buildings and such are not as high res as they seem in the early trailers. (because in those trailers they camera kept moving and floating around)
I stopped right there.
You're completely clueless.
Until you've played beta or live, these types of ridiculous opinions are best kept to yourself.
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The included OP mmorpgs, I don't like most of their graphics/visuals on a purely pick your preferred scale: A, B, C or D GW2 eg.
http://www.gdcvault.com/play/1014633/Classic-Game-Postmortem
That race is almost a deal breaker for me. Let's hope it won't be popular..
The screenshots aren't photoshopped. As far as the distance appearing photoshopped that's just the LOD system converting it into a 2D image so your framerates don't die in a fire from trying to render all those polys in the distance.
The game is beautiful.. probably the best I've seen of any MMO to date.
Asura race FTW !
They remind me of Stitch
This Thread and any like it are pure stupid. Are you really going to complain about the graphics of a game. Like Really, now i didnt really take the time to read the OP but REALLY like seriously that has got to be the worst and most retard thing to complain about for a game. Now i will agro that Everquest, DAOC, and other games like it are out of date but if the fun is there that shouldnt matter. With that being said this games not even out yet, let alone been played by you, and if you have played it which im gonna take a wild guess probally not then how can you say somthing as stupid as that. Complain about its bugs, or maybe its lack of world exploration, or even bad gameplay but dont say oh well the graphics look like crap because this games graphics are slightly better. THey had a style they picked and went with it, doesnt mean its the best but it is new. I may have jumped around a bit because that just how i think haha. Anyway, I dont know what it is but stupid shit like this just drives me crazy.
Why? That's what I did and it was enough for me to know that this is one beautiful game. No reason why someone can't do the same thing and see something else entirely. It's been happening since the first videos started hitting YouTube, after all.
outdated? are we looking at the same game? they're gorgeous!
Yeah, the whole pokemon angle is, well -- I just don't get it, but I'm forced to admit that they remind me of Stitch too. Some of them at least. Others remind me of little land sharks who want to gut me and feast on my innards. Those ones are pretty cool.
Don't get me wrong, I've sworn off defending this game, however, have you ever watched a video of gameplay, and then played said game? I don't care what resolution, gameplay video NEVER does justice to actual gameplay.
graphics are a double edged sword in a mmo
arguably something like The Secret World has better looking graphics than Guild Wars 2 (well it does especially with scenery, lighting and monsters, maybe not with char animations)
BUT theres a price
150 people in the persistent pvp zone - vs 500 in each of GW2s
the same applies to the big DEs like the dragons
GAMEPLAY > SHINYNESS
the better the gfx the more chance the game is going tera is kind of an exception
Graphical fidelity doesn't matter to me, artistic direction does. I'm not saying this as a fan, even though I am, but... it's something I've felt for a long while. I mean, look at the Dreamcast and games like Skies of Arcadia and Ecco: Defender of the Future. If you play them today, they stil look absolutely incredible. Now, a game can have a lack of both, I've seen games and MMORPGs that do, but ArenaNet is an arthouse developer, they've got as many artists as Obsidian has writers (probably more). This game is going to be looking good for a long time to come.
If you look at the inverse, you'll see a different picture. Take a look at Mortal Online, Vanguard: Saga of Heroes, Darkfall, and a number of PC optimised games. They have high graphical fidelity, they have all the shaders, and some of them even have all of the tessemellation, but they look like arse. The models are poorly proportioned, the locations are unimaginative, everything looks desaturated, everything looks too plastic because they don't know how to use that high-end engine they bought, and so on.
What I see is this: Skies of Arcadia, a Dreamcast game, looks miles better than Vanguard: Saga of Heroes.
Skies of Arcadia
Vanguard: Saga of Heroes
If I had to choose between one or the other, as I feel we often do, then I'd choose Skies of Arcadia. Something can run on an old engine, or be ancient, and it can still look wonderful. Let me give you another example of a game which emphasises art direction over graphical fidelity, it doesn't have all the shaders, it doesn't have billions of polys, but does it ever look incredible.
Uru: Ages Beyond Myst
(I apologise for the music, not my choice, but the video does make for a nice showcase regardless of how amateur it is.)
So... does it matter that Guild Wars 2 looks a little old in the graphical fidelity department? Not at all, not to me, not even remotely to me. See, I'm the kind of person who'd pay good money for games which looked as wonderful as Skies of Arcadia, Ecco, or Uru did these days. I find that too many people these days turn graphical fidelity into some sort of weird fetish (the original meaning of the word, being a very focused obsession).
Personally, I don't get the appeal. Graphical fidelity makes things a little sharper, it adds layers of detail, but does it make things look good? Not really. Graphical fidelity is sometimes like finding an expressionistic painting and then deciding to 'fill in all the details.' Sometimes you're better off without it.
What I'm getting at here is that fidelity has next to nothing to do with how good something looks.
The only reason fidelity exists is because marketing companies have convinced gullible people that they need better graphiics cards in order to make games look 'epic.' But show me one modern game that looks as visually enthralling as Skies of Arcadia did - you can't. That's because too many developers these days have gotten caught up in the graphical fidelity fetishistic circlejerk.
Too few people appreciate actual art direction.
And no, WoW isn't a valid argument here, because WoW lacks both good art direction and graphical fidelity, it's just lazy. As an artistic person myself, WoW frequently makes me tweak. Have you seen their werewolves? They look like rats eating twigs. But I digress. The fact of the matter is is that in the games industry, we often have either graphical fidelity, strong artistic direction, or neither.
Given those choices - I pick artistic direction.
I really don't think they are that bad. By today's MMO standards, I think they are above most games. And to be fair, a game that takes 4-5 years will have "outdated" graphics about 6 months into the project lol.
Enter a whole new realm of challenge and adventure.
There is nothing wrong with the graphics or the draw distance. The way the backgrounds get rendered with a painting like effect seems to translate poorly on the videos. If you look up some of the high resolution screens from the game, the engine is pretty impressive, as are the high resolution textures.
This image shows that effect pretty nicely. The texture on the nearest building is very detailed, but as you look down the street in the background the buildings look more like a painting the further from the camera you get. The just doesn't translate in the videos: (Click for full resolution).
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what are you smoking ? Age of conan and guild wars 2 have best graphics for mmorpg
Um, if this is as good as MMO graphics ever get, I'd be happy.
These are nice too: (Click to Enlarge).
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Well if you take off that shadow and lighning, you see a low polygon world. Just look at that centaur. Its like hes directly taken from Guild Wars 1.
Except some Bosses, the overall details seem pretty low. Just look carefully and maybe you find out what i mean.
And Generally, those pictures look like they were given from A-Net for the public. *Photoshop* incoming.
"If you reduce the graphic settings, you see worse graphics." Good job.
I say again, if graphics never get any better than this, I'd be happy with gaming for the rest of my life.