The difference between a hater and a fan is a fan just cheers on his/her game and enjoys being excited about it. They don't go into the house of games they don't like and piss all over the carpet, trying to stink up the fun and enthusiasm; if they do, they've crossed over from fan to hater. You won't find me in any specific game forum pissing all over their happy. Sure, I write a blog where I have criticized the industry in general for putting out the same kinds of games over and over, but that's not the same as seeking out people that love X and hosing them down for enjoying their game.
Just because they can't deal with their unmet expectations doesn't mean that if GW2 doesn't live up to mine (which I seriously doubt, seeing as what I want is in the game) that it's going to be a tragedy. I leave others to manage their own expectations and enthusiasm like the adults they are - I don't run around with wet blankets trying to dampen the fires of hype.
IMO, nothing wrong with hype. BTW, the GW2 hype-meter just went up a 10th of a percent. I really would like to know who comes up with that number and how.
The difference between a hater and a fan is a fan just cheers on his/her game and enjoys being excited about it. They don't go into the house of games they don't like and piss all over the carpet, trying to stink up the fun and enthusiasm; if they do, they've crossed over from fan to hater.
Exactly. Fans won't bother anyone who is not a fan, as they're talking about the product between fans only.
That's also why comparing haters extremism with fans extremism is not fair judgement by definition.
That's also why haters coming and trying to ruin fans enthusiasm is often seen as pathetic jealousy.
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The difference between a hater and a fan is a fan just cheers on his/her game and enjoys being excited about it. They don't go into the house of games they don't like and piss all over the carpet, trying to stink up the fun and enthusiasm; if they do, they've crossed over from fan to hater. You won't find me in any specific game forum pissing all over their happy. Sure, I write a blog where I have criticized the industry in general for putting out the same kinds of games over and over, but that's not the same as seeking out people that love X and them down for enjoying their game.
Just because they can't deal with their unmet expectations doesn't mean that if GW2 doesn't live up to mine (which I seriously doubt, seeing as what I want is in the game) that it's going to be a tragedy. I leave others to manage their own expectations and enthusiasm like the adults they are - I don't run around with wet blankets trying to dampen the fires of hype.
IMO, nothing wrong with hype. BTW, the GW2 hype-meter just went up a 10th of a percent. I really would like to know who comes up with that number and how.
Dunno... I've seen plenty of GW2 fans in the TOR boards tearing TOR apart nonstop, since well before it launched. Can't help but feel a little satisfaction in the fact that GW2 is now getting the same treatment, even though I'm interested in the game.
Personally, I really do wish more fans of games would come to realize your comment highlighted above. Not everyone wants the same thing from a game, and the reality is that a game that meets your expectations fully, and a game that you're bored sick playing, could very well be the same game; it's just a matter of how long you've played it.
That's why some of the games considered by many here to be best in the genre, are games that were never launched(see MEO).
Hey, I finally figured out that hype-meter thing! Cool. I tried to make it go to 11 but had to be satisfied voting it a 10.
Anyway, I'm not saying that GW2 fans can't be haters too. I'm saying that anyone that goes to a game forum of a game they don't like primarlily to cause drama by dissing the game or player expectations has moved into hater territory.
They don't go into the house of games they don't like and piss all over the carpet, trying to stink up the fun and enthusiasm; if they do, they've crossed over from fan to hater.
Really who has been in the ANet head office micturating wildly? Or are you referring to the public areas of MMORPG.com, a general MMORPG gaming site where all subforums are open to the public, If that upsets you maybe going to one of the GW2 only sites might suit your temprament more.
They don't go into the house of games they don't like and piss all over the carpet, trying to stink up the fun and enthusiasm; if they do, they've crossed over from fan to hater.
Really who has been in the ANet head office micturating wildly? Or are you referring to the public areas of MMORPG.com, a general MMORPG gaming site where all subforums are open to the public, If that upsets you maybe going to one of the GW2 only sites might suit your temprament more.
Public place or not, haters are still pissing all over the positive threads, while enthusiasts are just creating them.
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They don't go into the house of games they don't like and piss all over the carpet, trying to stink up the fun and enthusiasm; if they do, they've crossed over from fan to hater.
Really who has been in the ANet head office micturating wildly? Or are you referring to the public areas of MMORPG.com, a general MMORPG gaming site where all subforums are open to the public, If that upsets you maybe going to one of the GW2 only sites might suit your temprament more.
Public place or not, haters are still pissing all over the positive threads, while enthusiasts are just creating them.
And fanboys are pissing all over the negative threads, while cynics are just creating them. And your point is?
They don't go into the house of games they don't like and piss all over the carpet, trying to stink up the fun and enthusiasm; if they do, they've crossed over from fan to hater.
Really who has been in the ANet head office micturating wildly? Or are you referring to the public areas of MMORPG.com, a general MMORPG gaming site where all subforums are open to the public, If that upsets you maybe going to one of the GW2 only sites might suit your temprament more.
Public place or not, haters are still pissing all over the positive threads, while enthusiasts are just creating them.
And fanboys are pissing all over the negative threads, while cynics are just creating them. And your point is?
My point is that you didn't read Meleagar's post entirely ;-)
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They don't go into the house of games they don't like and piss all over the carpet, trying to stink up the fun and enthusiasm; if they do, they've crossed over from fan to hater.
Really who has been in the ANet head office micturating wildly? Or are you referring to the public areas of MMORPG.com, a general MMORPG gaming site where all subforums are open to the public, If that upsets you maybe going to one of the GW2 only sites might suit your temprament more.
Public place or not, haters are still pissing all over the positive threads, while enthusiasts are just creating them.
And fanboys are pissing all over the negative threads, while cynics are just creating them. And your point is?
My point is that you didn't read Meleagar's post entirely ;-)
No, I did, I just took different things from it and made my opinion, just as you did, opinions are what keeps these forums going, I am happy for there to be positive and negative opinions whilst you would prefer a more Stepford Wives type forum experience, different opinions.
They don't go into the house of games they don't like and piss all over the carpet, trying to stink up the fun and enthusiasm; if they do, they've crossed over from fan to hater.
Really who has been in the ANet head office micturating wildly? Or are you referring to the public areas of MMORPG.com, a general MMORPG gaming site where all subforums are open to the public, If that upsets you maybe going to one of the GW2 only sites might suit your temprament more.
Public place or not, haters are still pissing all over the positive threads, while enthusiasts are just creating them.
And fanboys are pissing all over the negative threads, while cynics are just creating them. And your point is?
My point is that you didn't read Meleagar's post entirely ;-)
No, I did, I just took different things from it and made my opinion, just as you did, opinions are what keeps these forums going, I am happy for there to be positive and negative opinions whilst you would prefer a more Stepford Wives type forum experience, different opinions.
You're trying too hard to argue I guess : Meleagar's post was saying that a Fan is someone who never hates, and stay positive. Therefore, a fan starting to pour some negativism against a hater becomes a hater himself. It was the starting point of my argument.
For you, fans pissing over negative threads are still fans. So not only did you not understand that difference we were mentionning, but you also used its mislook as a counter argument. So if you're really trying to counter-argument with me on that point, at least please try to understand 100% what argument it was from the start.
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You don't get what Meleagar & I mean it seems : a Fan is someone who never hates, and stay positive. Therefore, a fan starting to pour some negativism against a hater becomes a hater himself. It was the starting point of my argument.
For you, fans pissing over negative threads are still fans. So if you're using that totally different base point of view against my point, I can say that you're completely out of scope in this debate.
I don´t think that is 100% correct. I am a fan of many bands and musicians and still doesn´t like all of their songs and CDs.
And I never meet a Star wars fan that doesn´t hate Jar jar, and few enough that like episode 1.
You can be a fan and still be realistic, what you are talking about is a "Fan-atic".
They don't go into the house of games they don't like and piss all over the carpet, trying to stink up the fun and enthusiasm; if they do, they've crossed over from fan to hater.
Really who has been in the ANet head office micturating wildly? Or are you referring to the public areas of MMORPG.com, a general MMORPG gaming site where all subforums are open to the public, If that upsets you maybe going to one of the GW2 only sites might suit your temprament more.
That's a bit of a bullshit, strawman argument, isn't it? Just because people are free to post anywhere they want, that it absolves them of their asshole behaviour. It's also not illegal to fart in a crowded elevator, yet only socially maladjusted jackasses would do that. What stops the rest of us is simple decency. No rule is required if you have a modicum of respect for other people.
Sorry, but there's something fundamentally wrong with people who go out of their way to spread the smell of shit around, whether there's a rule against it or not. You can identify these people by how much time they spend in forums for games they clearly don't like. It's not enough for them to express a negative view point and move on, they need to stick around and cover the walls with feces before they can take their leave. These people are not right in the head and trying to justify their activity is the same as promoting it.
You don't get what Meleagar & I mean it seems : a Fan is someone who never hates, and stay positive. Therefore, a fan starting to pour some negativism against a hater becomes a hater himself. It was the starting point of my argument.
For you, fans pissing over negative threads are still fans. So if you're using that totally different base point of view against my point, I can say that you're completely out of scope in this debate.
I don´t think that is 100% correct. I am a fan of many bands and musicians and still doesn´t like all of their songs and CDs.
And I never meet a Star wars fan that doesn´t hate Jar jar, and few enough that like episode 1.
You can be a fan and still be realistic, what you are talking about is a "Fan-atic".
By definition, it's the opposite : a fanatic would be the one who is able to turn to a hater to defend what he loves.
(reminder : Meleagar & I were talking about fans who don't turn to haters)
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They don't go into the house of games they don't like and piss all over the carpet, trying to stink up the fun and enthusiasm; if they do, they've crossed over from fan to hater.
Really who has been in the ANet head office micturating wildly? Or are you referring to the public areas of MMORPG.com, a general MMORPG gaming site where all subforums are open to the public, If that upsets you maybe going to one of the GW2 only sites might suit your temprament more.
That's a bit of a bullshit, strawman argument, isn't it? Just because people are free to post anywhere they want, that it absolves them of their asshole behaviour. It's also not illegal to fart in a crowded elevator, yet only socially maladjusted jackasses would do that. What stops the rest of us is simple decency. No rule is required if you have a modicum of respect for other people.
Sorry, but there's something fundamentally wrong with people who go out of their way to spread the smell of shit around, whether there's a rule against it or not. You can identify these people by how much time they spend in forums for games they clearly don't like. It's not enough for them to express a negative view point and move on, they need to stick around and cover the walls with feces before they can take their leave. These people are not right in the head and trying to justify their activity is the same as promoting it.
No it's a simple fact, this is a general forum with a plethora of views, it is you who seems to want to limit what people can discuss and the views hey are allowed to have and state. If you cannot deal with that then a general forum will make you uncomfortable.
No it's a simple fact, this is a general forum with a plethora of views, it is you who seems to want to limit what people can discuss and the views hey are allowed to have and state. If you cannot deal with that then a general forum will make you uncomfortable.
RefMinor, you're overreacting : we're not talking about "people who have some critics", we are talking about haters. See my sig for visual illustration.
Anyway you seem to be the kind of guy who's too proud to admit he didn't understand something he argued against, so I'll just get along.
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You can hate advantage cash shops and still be a fan of the game in general.
I can like a car even if I think the color is ugly. Or perhaps I like the engine, think the cars performance is impressive and think its fun to drive. But think its very ugly. I would perhaps buy that car. Because performance and the car being fun to drive is more important than anything. But maybe I would often write and talk about how ugly it is anyway. And get into heated arguments with other owners that think it looks cool and is perfect in every way. Typically someone like that is some sort of follower and fanatic. Because almost nothing is perfect. Even things we like have faults and problems if we examine every detail. People that refuse to see or recognize any faults or problems are a bit strange...
Well, you know what they say : ''Haters gonna' hate.'' Everytime I see a hater making fun of a game or something like that I try to ignore him and get along with my life knowing that everybody has his own opinion and that no mater how hard I try I won't be able to stop a hater. Guild Wars 2 is, from my point of view, a beautiful game and believe me when I say that I have seen tens of haters trying to discourage people from buying this game by trowing around lies and pointing out only the bad parts of the game, all this in a single normal day of browsing the internet. I wanted to fight them so badly but I knew that all I could achieve is more rage and a pleased troll. So I kept my rage, walked away and said to miself ,, The game is great and you know it, it is all that maters. Smart people will realise that too so just walk away...''. Don't fight the haters people, it is what they want.
Originally posted by Callidor Originally posted by Lord.Bachus Its fun how a certain group of people allways visits the forums of the next big AAA MMO to be released, and spreads their negativism. Mostly not based on game facts but on emotions. Good to know that any really good game will actually do good despte their attempts to chase away potential customers. Its obvious that the Negativism has landed on the GW2 boards after SWTOR has been released. To the neutral visitors, please base your opinion on the facts we know about GW2 combined with your own gaming needs
So many AAA MMOs havent lived up to the hype as of late that people are starting to assume the trend is going to continue, so they continue voicing their continued dissatisfaction.
Not many games have shown so many extensive VIDEOS that you can have fairly judge of how GW2 will beand if its any good.
Ive watch alot video previews from beta press weekends and game seems worth playing and im a sandbox fan.
Game is only B2P so 50 bucks is not a big deal if it should be crap hehe.
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That's a bit of a bullshit, strawman argument, isn't it? Just because people are free to post anywhere they want, that it absolves them of their asshole behaviour. It's also not illegal to fart in a crowded elevator, yet only socially maladjusted jackasses would do that. What stops the rest of us is simple decency. No rule is required if you have a modicum of respect for other people.
Sorry, but there's something fundamentally wrong with people who go out of their way to spread the smell of shit around, whether there's a rule against it or not. You can identify these people by how much time they spend in forums for games they clearly don't like. It's not enough for them to express a negative view point and move on, they need to stick around and cover the walls with feces before they can take their leave. These people are not right in the head and trying to justify their activity is the same as promoting it.
The question is: When does something start to be "asshole behaviour"? I've seen few posters that are really "haters".
But as soon as someone posts something like "Trading money for gold is P2W BS!!", he gets labeled a "hater", followed by a 10-page essay somehow trying to prove that he is wrong.
When you think about it, the real negativism hellgates didn't open yet ... Wait for the Beta weekend crazy enthusiasm that will go on forums from 20th april ... That will be the start of trolls war horn.
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Its fun how a certain group of people allways visits the forums of the next big AAA MMO to be released, and spreads their negativism. Mostly not based on game facts but on emotions. Good to know that any really good game will actually do good despte their attempts to chase away potential customers. Its obvious that the Negativism has landed on the GW2 boards after SWTOR has been released. To the neutral visitors, please base your opinion on the facts we know about GW2 combined with your own gaming needs
It just occured to me that the opposite could be true.
"Its fun how a certain group of people allways visits the forums of the next big AAA MMO to be released, and spreads their positism. Mostly not based on game facts but on emotions."
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The difference between a hater and a fan is a fan just cheers on his/her game and enjoys being excited about it. They don't go into the house of games they don't like and piss all over the carpet, trying to stink up the fun and enthusiasm; if they do, they've crossed over from fan to hater. You won't find me in any specific game forum pissing all over their happy. Sure, I write a blog where I have criticized the industry in general for putting out the same kinds of games over and over, but that's not the same as seeking out people that love X and hosing them down for enjoying their game.
Just because they can't deal with their unmet expectations doesn't mean that if GW2 doesn't live up to mine (which I seriously doubt, seeing as what I want is in the game) that it's going to be a tragedy. I leave others to manage their own expectations and enthusiasm like the adults they are - I don't run around with wet blankets trying to dampen the fires of hype.
IMO, nothing wrong with hype. BTW, the GW2 hype-meter just went up a 10th of a percent. I really would like to know who comes up with that number and how.
Exactly. Fans won't bother anyone who is not a fan, as they're talking about the product between fans only.
That's also why comparing haters extremism with fans extremism is not fair judgement by definition.
That's also why haters coming and trying to ruin fans enthusiasm is often seen as pathetic jealousy.
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Dunno... I've seen plenty of GW2 fans in the TOR boards tearing TOR apart nonstop, since well before it launched. Can't help but feel a little satisfaction in the fact that GW2 is now getting the same treatment, even though I'm interested in the game.
Personally, I really do wish more fans of games would come to realize your comment highlighted above. Not everyone wants the same thing from a game, and the reality is that a game that meets your expectations fully, and a game that you're bored sick playing, could very well be the same game; it's just a matter of how long you've played it.
That's why some of the games considered by many here to be best in the genre, are games that were never launched(see MEO).
Hey, I finally figured out that hype-meter thing! Cool. I tried to make it go to 11 but had to be satisfied voting it a 10.
Anyway, I'm not saying that GW2 fans can't be haters too. I'm saying that anyone that goes to a game forum of a game they don't like primarlily to cause drama by dissing the game or player expectations has moved into hater territory.
Really who has been in the ANet head office micturating wildly? Or are you referring to the public areas of MMORPG.com, a general MMORPG gaming site where all subforums are open to the public, If that upsets you maybe going to one of the GW2 only sites might suit your temprament more.Public place or not, haters are still pissing all over the positive threads, while enthusiasts are just creating them.
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Really who has been in the ANet head office micturating wildly? Or are you referring to the public areas of MMORPG.com, a general MMORPG gaming site where all subforums are open to the public, If that upsets you maybe going to one of the GW2 only sites might suit your temprament more.Public place or not, haters are still pissing all over the positive threads, while enthusiasts are just creating them.
And fanboys are pissing all over the negative threads, while cynics are just creating them. And your point is?My point is that you didn't read Meleagar's post entirely ;-)
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Really who has been in the ANet head office micturating wildly? Or are you referring to the public areas of MMORPG.com, a general MMORPG gaming site where all subforums are open to the public, If that upsets you maybe going to one of the GW2 only sites might suit your temprament more.Public place or not, haters are still pissing all over the positive threads, while enthusiasts are just creating them.
And fanboys are pissing all over the negative threads, while cynics are just creating them. And your point is?My point is that you didn't read Meleagar's post entirely ;-)
No, I did, I just took different things from it and made my opinion, just as you did, opinions are what keeps these forums going, I am happy for there to be positive and negative opinions whilst you would prefer a more Stepford Wives type forum experience, different opinions.You're trying too hard to argue I guess : Meleagar's post was saying that a Fan is someone who never hates, and stay positive. Therefore, a fan starting to pour some negativism against a hater becomes a hater himself. It was the starting point of my argument.
For you, fans pissing over negative threads are still fans. So not only did you not understand that difference we were mentionning, but you also used its mislook as a counter argument. So if you're really trying to counter-argument with me on that point, at least please try to understand 100% what argument it was from the start.
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I don´t think that is 100% correct. I am a fan of many bands and musicians and still doesn´t like all of their songs and CDs.
And I never meet a Star wars fan that doesn´t hate Jar jar, and few enough that like episode 1.
You can be a fan and still be realistic, what you are talking about is a "Fan-atic".
That's a bit of a bullshit, strawman argument, isn't it? Just because people are free to post anywhere they want, that it absolves them of their asshole behaviour. It's also not illegal to fart in a crowded elevator, yet only socially maladjusted jackasses would do that. What stops the rest of us is simple decency. No rule is required if you have a modicum of respect for other people.
Sorry, but there's something fundamentally wrong with people who go out of their way to spread the smell of shit around, whether there's a rule against it or not. You can identify these people by how much time they spend in forums for games they clearly don't like. It's not enough for them to express a negative view point and move on, they need to stick around and cover the walls with feces before they can take their leave. These people are not right in the head and trying to justify their activity is the same as promoting it.
By definition, it's the opposite : a fanatic would be the one who is able to turn to a hater to defend what he loves.
(reminder : Meleagar & I were talking about fans who don't turn to haters)
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Really who has been in the ANet head office micturating wildly? Or are you referring to the public areas of MMORPG.com, a general MMORPG gaming site where all subforums are open to the public, If that upsets you maybe going to one of the GW2 only sites might suit your temprament more.That's a bit of a bullshit, strawman argument, isn't it? Just because people are free to post anywhere they want, that it absolves them of their asshole behaviour. It's also not illegal to fart in a crowded elevator, yet only socially maladjusted jackasses would do that. What stops the rest of us is simple decency. No rule is required if you have a modicum of respect for other people.
Sorry, but there's something fundamentally wrong with people who go out of their way to spread the smell of shit around, whether there's a rule against it or not. You can identify these people by how much time they spend in forums for games they clearly don't like. It's not enough for them to express a negative view point and move on, they need to stick around and cover the walls with feces before they can take their leave. These people are not right in the head and trying to justify their activity is the same as promoting it.
No it's a simple fact, this is a general forum with a plethora of views, it is you who seems to want to limit what people can discuss and the views hey are allowed to have and state. If you cannot deal with that then a general forum will make you uncomfortable.I kinda meant fanatic fan (my fault, the word play was a bit unclear), regular fans still can say that they don´t like certain things.
I am a fan but that doesn´t mean I don't think that certain things in the games don´t need improvements or even don't like them at all.
The crafting for one thing seems pretty "meh" to me, it is different but not really much better or worse than most crafting.
RefMinor, you're overreacting : we're not talking about "people who have some critics", we are talking about haters. See my sig for visual illustration.
Anyway you seem to be the kind of guy who's too proud to admit he didn't understand something he argued against, so I'll just get along.
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A fan still having some critics is nothing wrong, indeed ;-)
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You can hate advantage cash shops and still be a fan of the game in general.
I can like a car even if I think the color is ugly. Or perhaps I like the engine, think the cars performance is impressive and think its fun to drive. But think its very ugly. I would perhaps buy that car. Because performance and the car being fun to drive is more important than anything. But maybe I would often write and talk about how ugly it is anyway. And get into heated arguments with other owners that think it looks cool and is perfect in every way. Typically someone like that is some sort of follower and fanatic. Because almost nothing is perfect. Even things we like have faults and problems if we examine every detail. People that refuse to see or recognize any faults or problems are a bit strange...
Well, you know what they say : ''Haters gonna' hate.''
Everytime I see a hater making fun of a game or something like that I try to ignore him and get along with my life knowing that everybody has his own opinion and that no mater how hard I try I won't be able to stop a hater.
Guild Wars 2 is, from my point of view, a beautiful game and believe me when I say that I have seen tens of haters trying to discourage people from buying this game by trowing around lies and pointing out only the bad parts of the game, all this in a single normal day of browsing the internet. I wanted to fight them so badly but I knew that all I could achieve is more rage and a pleased troll. So I kept my rage, walked away and said to miself ,, The game is great and you know it, it is all that maters. Smart people will realise that too so just walk away...''.
Don't fight the haters people, it is what they want.
Not many games have shown so many extensive VIDEOS that you can have fairly judge of how GW2 will beand if its any good.
Ive watch alot video previews from beta press weekends and game seems worth playing and im a sandbox fan.
Game is only B2P so 50 bucks is not a big deal if it should be crap hehe.
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Hey guys let's keep the discussion civil. Please do not stray off topic.
The question is: When does something start to be "asshole behaviour"? I've seen few posters that are really "haters".
But as soon as someone posts something like "Trading money for gold is P2W BS!!", he gets labeled a "hater", followed by a 10-page essay somehow trying to prove that he is wrong.
Hype train -> Reality
When you think about it, the real negativism hellgates didn't open yet ... Wait for the Beta weekend crazy enthusiasm that will go on forums from 20th april ... That will be the start of trolls war horn.
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Negativism?
I raise you Strategery
It just occured to me that the opposite could be true.
"Its fun how a certain group of people allways visits the forums of the next big AAA MMO to be released, and spreads their positism. Mostly not based on game facts but on emotions."
"Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky