Now I'm not saying it's a bad game,it just isn't for me and I honestly think that with GW2 coming out Tera will fall into the oblivion for many.I've read many people saying how good the graphics are,well to me Aion is as good if not better and I like the way it plays much better.
Two points of contention:
(1) GW2 attracts an entirely different type of player than TERA does. I know GW2 fans will dispute this, but the fact is that GW2 is more a casual, carebearish "play at your own pace, don't worry about achievement, we're all on the same level here" kind of gamer. This is the type of game you play if you don't care about progression or standing out in a crowd. They put everyone on equal terms and just say, "Go play." That will be fine for many people. The people that play TERA, on the other hand, will be the folks who find GW2's system too timid. In TERA, you CAN make a name for yourself in the world, either good or bad. The PvP is directly tied into the PVE, not some separate game to protect the casuals from getting their feelings hurt. The hardcore players will play TERA, and the casuals will play GW2.
Now, as we all know, there are more casuals than hardcore gamers out there, so of course GW2 will be more popular. But TERA will more than hold its own and be a successful game based on the players who actually enjoy a challenge. It will be a niche title, for sure, but it will be a successful one.
(2) I'm not sure when the last time you played Aion was, but to say the graphics are as good as TERA is patently false. It's not even in the same ballpark. Hell, it isn't even the same sport. Do me a favor the next time you play Aion. Go somewhere where there is foliage, grass or flowers. Now, pan your camera down to that foliage, and zoom in. It has no textures. It's nothing but painted on landscapes over a flat surface. That may have flown a few years ago when it released, but it doesn't fly now.
This is a pretty big mischaracterization of GW2 and its players.
How can a game that focuses on competitive PvP be carebareish? Because there is regulation, fair play, rules? I'd gladly take on my team any player who made the top competitive PvP ranks in Guild Wars, over some basement dweller who gets off on "hunting sheep".
That aside, I was just looking at some Tera videos and found this level 20 world boss one:
I'm not sure I agree this will be a sleeper hit. I'm sure there are plenty of people who will like it, but it has an Anime feel that I think is kind of niche. The oversized weapons thing I kinda get, but the panty shots are just weird.
Just sayin'
Edit: One thing I do like about TERA is that with the combat you actually "feel" like you hit something. There are two games I can think of that I would have loved had it not seemed like I was just swinging through air.
Lol, yeah I kind of stuck my foot in my mouth there, but to clarify I wasn't calling Tera players basement dwellers. That was in reference to the great "hardcore" crowd who generally can't compete outside of numerical advantage.
Hehe I know I was just being a smart-alic. You should watch the Warrior video a few threads down. That guy is funny and at about the 8:45 mark (I think) makes reference about his "three crystals instead of four", hilarious.
TERA failed in Korea and it'll do the same here. The Secret World has a better chance at being successful, meanwhile Guild Wars 2 will be a guaranteed hit.
TERAs pvp looks interesting but it also looks like a grind, and pandas dont help. All three games have similarities marking their generation, but Secret World will seriously lack PVP, which is a shame with its skill system. OF all things I think GW2 will triumph with immersion.
With all these other high profile MMOs running ramparnt atm (SWTOR/TSW/GW2) I feel that TERA might just be that sleeper that makes a bigger spalsh than people are predicting. I tried out the CBT but didnt really get into it much as I knew my character was going to be deleted, I didnt want to get too attached. Now that Open Beta is upon us and we actually get to keep the character through to launch (normally unheard of) then I can really sink my teeth in.
This will be what Final Fantasy XIV and AION should have been (for the western audience) and I forsee a smooth laucnh.
Not to mention, it will knock Age of Conan off for being the best looking MMO. I simply have not seen better graphics (better than GW2 too) on PC, EVER!! Thats right, this has to be the most beautiful piece of electronic artwork I have ever seen!
If you have not seen it in action, you are missing it!
TERA for MMO GAME OF THE YEAR!!
they certainly spent a lot of time on those boob animations! that's what i call action!
Here we go again with how amazing this game looks. It just doesnt, it makes terrible use of color samples, textures, lighting bump mapping and spectral surfaces.
Its overly bright and looks only slightly better then most F2P games pooping out of Koreas MMO shoot.. Also spell effects are rather terrible and sound effects are as bad as they get.
Gameplay seems decent Ill give it that. People are mistaking design for graphical quality. I think people like the design of the game the "pretty" girls etc. But the actual envionments are washed out and 2 dimensional looking.
Or people see one highly detailed NPC monster and go WOW look at that, this game looks amazing!!! You have to look at every part of a games graphics not just one or two things.
Sorry OP but I simply don't feel like TERA will be a sleeper hit.
We already get very mixed reactions from gamers and press alike who had hands on experience - some who praise combat and look over the other conventional mmorpg systems while others simply don't care about the combat and look at the game as a whole.
Mixed reactions is already a bad sign in my book.
Maybe if it was much less hyped but with overwhelmingly positive reactions from players in general who tried it then ya, the game may certaintly be a sleeper hit. However, that is just not the case.
Imo, the game certaintly won't be a hit but will definately survive and have its own niche. Specifically, for those that don't like great changes in their mmorpg but would instead, just want a more action orientated combat.
Sorry OP but I simply don't feel like TERA will be a sleeper hit.
We already get very mixed reactions from gamers and press alike who had hands on experience - some who praise combat and look over the other conventional mmorpg systems while others simply don't care about the combat and look at the game as a whole.
Mixed reactions is already a bad sign in my book.
Maybe if it was much less hyped but with overwhelmingly positive reactions from players in general who tried it then ya, the game may certaintly be a sleeper hit. However, that is just not the case.
Imo, the game certaintly won't be a hit but will definately survive and have its own niche. Specifically, for those that don't like great changes in their mmorpg but would instead, just want a more action orientated combat.
Or maybe they want to play a game where PVP and PVE aren't separated? not everyone likes to play carebear MMOs
"Esport with tournaments is for hardcore pvp'rs that want to be competitive. Openworld PVP with ganking and griefing is for casuals that just wants their pvp mixed with pve from time to time." otacu
Here we go again with how amazing this game looks. It just doesnt, it makes terrible use of color samples, textures, lighting bump mapping and spectral surfaces.
Its overly bright and looks only slightly better then most F2P games pooping out of Koreas MMO shoot.. Also spell effects are rather terrible and sound effects are as bad as they get.
Gameplay seems decent Ill give it that. People are mistaking design for graphical quality. I think people like the design of the game the "pretty" girls etc. But the actual envionments are washed out and 2 dimensional looking.
Or people see one highly detailed NPC monster and go WOW look at that, this game looks amazing!!! You have to look at every part of a games graphics not just one or two things.
Can you provide any proof of a F2P game with similar graphics?
It is very colorful, shiny and bloomy but it does have very high resolution graphics. Games that go the more "realistic" route, which it sounds like you are more a fan of, tend to look dated a lot sooner than later. It was the "look" they were going for and style preference aside they did a good job.
TERA does have great graphics "at every part of" it's look, the environments blend together very well. You can tell this pretty easily in a game by looking at what was placed in the gameworld and what is part of the gameworld. You might not like the look but they did a consistant job of making everything fit together.
There is nothing innovative about Tera other then the gameplay. Ultimately it is still just a themepark MMO only they have yet to include important features in it like Battlegrounds and Raiding. If you are looking for a new MMO that is different I suggest steering clear, but the combat system may keep you occupied for a little while. I personally thought the combat system felt a little weak even as it was touted to be really awesome action gameplay. The combat feels "forced" and not very polished (rooting animations,ability delay,ect) almost as if it is trying to be a console game but falling short. I highly doubt it will be a sleeper hit, but it will have a niche audience for a little while before it ultimately goes F2P.
Sorry OP but I simply don't feel like TERA will be a sleeper hit.
We already get very mixed reactions from gamers and press alike who had hands on experience - some who praise combat and look over the other conventional mmorpg systems while others simply don't care about the combat and look at the game as a whole.
Mixed reactions is already a bad sign in my book.
Maybe if it was much less hyped but with overwhelmingly positive reactions from players in general who tried it then ya, the game may certaintly be a sleeper hit. However, that is just not the case.
Imo, the game certaintly won't be a hit but will definately survive and have its own niche. Specifically, for those that don't like great changes in their mmorpg but would instead, just want a more action orientated combat.
Or maybe they want to play a game where PVP and PVE aren't separated? not everyone likes to play carebear MMOs
True, but a LOT do. I simply will not play games that are gankfests any more. I no longer find them entertaining.
Sorry OP but I simply don't feel like TERA will be a sleeper hit.
We already get very mixed reactions from gamers and press alike who had hands on experience - some who praise combat and look over the other conventional mmorpg systems while others simply don't care about the combat and look at the game as a whole.
Mixed reactions is already a bad sign in my book.
Maybe if it was much less hyped but with overwhelmingly positive reactions from players in general who tried it then ya, the game may certaintly be a sleeper hit. However, that is just not the case.
Imo, the game certaintly won't be a hit but will definately survive and have its own niche. Specifically, for those that don't like great changes in their mmorpg but would instead, just want a more action orientated combat.
Or maybe they want to play a game where PVP and PVE aren't separated? not everyone likes to play carebear MMOs
While this may be true, the fact of the matter is that the only really successful MMOs outside of say, Eve, have seperated PvE and PvP. The MMORPGs that did not seperate them have never really had enough success to be really well off, let alone a "sleeper hit".
MMOs have always been more PvE focused and seperating the PvP elements has been a neccessary evil in order to foster that. Exploration,progression,story, and feeling as though you have a purpose in a living online world is essentially the core of MMOs. PvP does have a place here but it is usually far less interesting as ultimately the PvP game does not change as drastically as the PvE game. What this means for the life of an MMO is that it will always be greatly extended upon with strong elements associated with the my formerly mentioned areas of importance.
Here we go again with how amazing this game looks. It just doesnt, it makes terrible use of color samples, textures, lighting bump mapping and spectral surfaces.
Its overly bright and looks only slightly better then most F2P games pooping out of Koreas MMO shoot.. Also spell effects are rather terrible and sound effects are as bad as they get.
Gameplay seems decent Ill give it that. People are mistaking design for graphical quality. I think people like the design of the game the "pretty" girls etc. But the actual envionments are washed out and 2 dimensional looking.
Or people see one highly detailed NPC monster and go WOW look at that, this game looks amazing!!! You have to look at every part of a games graphics not just one or two things.
Could you provide examples of this through screenshots of what YOU consider terrible use of?
This *is* the UnrealEngine3 we're talking about here...
The length people will go through to discredit TERA in their own eyes. *sigh*
You are 100% correct on the points that make an MMO. Ironically enough this is why I'm excited for TERA. While its true that TERA has tons of quests, very basic quests for the most part, they are not required for progression. The main quest however does tell you what's going on in the gameworld and is good to do.
There is a linear path from 1-20, unfortunately IMO, but there are forks and options after that to explore which is not always the case with themeparks. A huge draw for me is the abundance of group content outside of the instances. As far as purpose i think the freedoms given to you let you feel that if you want to. Oh, then there is the combat which keeps being brought up as it's only strength is really the icing on the cake.
One thing that is working against TERA is that other than the combat it can be seen as offering nothing "new". While it's not trying to break molds it combines a lot of features from other games as well as offers features not seen in other games and is suprisingly deep. One important point is that there are separate PvP and PvE servers.
With all these other high profile MMOs running ramparnt atm (SWTOR/TSW/GW2) I feel that TERA might just be that sleeper that makes a bigger spalsh than people are predicting. I tried out the CBT but didnt really get into it much as I knew my character was going to be deleted, I didnt want to get too attached. Now that Open Beta is upon us and we actually get to keep the character through to launch (normally unheard of) then I can really sink my teeth in.
This will be what Final Fantasy XIV and AION should have been (for the western audience) and I forsee a smooth laucnh.
Not to mention, it will knock Age of Conan off for being the best looking MMO. I simply have not seen better graphics (better than GW2 too) on PC, EVER!! Thats right, this has to be the most beautiful piece of electronic artwork I have ever seen!
If you have not seen it in action, you are missing it!
TERA for MMO GAME OF THE YEAR!!
So what you are saying is that, you are calling TERA MMO game of the year when you haven't even "sink your teeth in"
TERA got great action combat in a MMO sense, but it is a terrible action game overall.
Just because you can dodge a hit, doesn't make it great action combat, the attacks are extremely slow paced for an action combat game. You walk slow, attack slow, just because you have to aim, doesn't automatically make it fun.
The pacing of the game is terrible, just another point 1 to point 2 fetch quest. Story? What story? If anyone has actualloy read the quest text, the writing is terrible.
Unless you can participate in the political system and ignore questline from level 10 (I can tolerate the starting island), I'm not willing to grind 50 levels just so I can have fun. It will even be alright if it is viable to just join a guild and hunt BAM to level up, but then, if every guild is doing that, it will probably be queues.
Also the playerbase is terrible, there are constant kill steal even for the starting levels, they just come in and start killing your target,or maybe the lag is just that bad and they can't see when others are exactly at.
The community is terrible, not just the killstealing, have anyone seen the seen the chat channels? Constant insults and the whole pedo with the Elin, namecalling. I can ignore, but constantly pausing to interface and ignore, makes the already apparent pacing issues even more apparent.
While the combat is borderline fun, it reminded me how terrible the traditional level and questing structure is.
F2P or B2P in a one and a half year.
How much WoW could a WoWhater hate, if a WoWhater could hate WoW? As much WoW as a WoWhater would, if a WoWhater could hate WoW.
With all these other high profile MMOs running ramparnt atm (SWTOR/TSW/GW2) I feel that TERA might just be that sleeper that makes a bigger spalsh than people are predicting. I tried out the CBT but didnt really get into it much as I knew my character was going to be deleted, I didnt want to get too attached. Now that Open Beta is upon us and we actually get to keep the character through to launch (normally unheard of) then I can really sink my teeth in.
This will be what Final Fantasy XIV and AION should have been (for the western audience) and I forsee a smooth laucnh.
Not to mention, it will knock Age of Conan off for being the best looking MMO. I simply have not seen better graphics (better than GW2 too) on PC, EVER!! Thats right, this has to be the most beautiful piece of electronic artwork I have ever seen!
If you have not seen it in action, you are missing it!
TERA for MMO GAME OF THE YEAR!!
So what you are saying is that, you are calling TERA MMO game of the year when you haven't even "sink your teeth in"
TERA got great action combat in a MMO sense, but it is a terrible action game overall.
Just because you can dodge a hit, doesn't make it great action combat, the attacks are extremely slow paced for an action combat game. You walk slow, attack slow, just because you have to aim, doesn't automatically make it fun.
The pacing of the game is terrible, just another point 1 to point 2 fetch quest. Story? What story? If anyone has actualloy read the quest text, the writing is terrible.
Unless you can participate in the political system and ignore questline from level 10 (I can tolerate the starting island), I'm not willing to grind 50 levels just so I can have fun. It will even be alright if it is viable to just join a guild and hunt BAM to level up, but then, if every guild is doing that, it will probably be queues.
Also the playerbase is terrible, there are constant kill steal even for the starting levels, they just come in and start killing your target,or maybe the lag is just that bad and they can't see when others are exactly at.
The community is terrible, not just the killstealing, have anyone seen the seen the chat channels? Constant insults and the whole pedo with the Elin, namecalling. I can ignore, but constantly pausing to interface and ignore, makes the already apparent pacing issues even more apparent.
While the combat is borderline fun, it reminded me how terrible the traditional level and questing structure is.
F2P or B2P in a one and a half year.
who cares what u think, if u dont agree then dont play it, does posting what u think make us believe u....., when u clearly did not play it till a respectable level to even make a qualified comment.
So i was curious about arena Play in Tera so i looked up a YouTube video. I wastched 5 vs.5. It was aweful. Kept using the same skills and then a bit of dodge. No cc at all and no tactics. this one mage only was casting this small black shadow bolt or something. Wow arena is so much better and skilled
With all these other high profile MMOs running ramparnt atm (SWTOR/TSW/GW2) I feel that TERA might just be that sleeper that makes a bigger spalsh than people are predicting. I tried out the CBT but didnt really get into it much as I knew my character was going to be deleted, I didnt want to get too attached. Now that Open Beta is upon us and we actually get to keep the character through to launch (normally unheard of) then I can really sink my teeth in.
This will be what Final Fantasy XIV and AION should have been (for the western audience) and I forsee a smooth laucnh.
Not to mention, it will knock Age of Conan off for being the best looking MMO. I simply have not seen better graphics (better than GW2 too) on PC, EVER!! Thats right, this has to be the most beautiful piece of electronic artwork I have ever seen!
If you have not seen it in action, you are missing it!
TERA for MMO GAME OF THE YEAR!!
So what you are saying is that, you are calling TERA MMO game of the year when you haven't even "sink your teeth in"
TERA got great action combat in a MMO sense, but it is a terrible action game overall.
Just because you can dodge a hit, doesn't make it great action combat, the attacks are extremely slow paced for an action combat game. You walk slow, attack slow, just because you have to aim, doesn't automatically make it fun.
The pacing of the game is terrible, just another point 1 to point 2 fetch quest. Story? What story? If anyone has actualloy read the quest text, the writing is terrible.
Unless you can participate in the political system and ignore questline from level 10 (I can tolerate the starting island), I'm not willing to grind 50 levels just so I can have fun. It will even be alright if it is viable to just join a guild and hunt BAM to level up, but then, if every guild is doing that, it will probably be queues.
Also the playerbase is terrible, there are constant kill steal even for the starting levels, they just come in and start killing your target,or maybe the lag is just that bad and they can't see when others are exactly at.
The community is terrible, not just the killstealing, have anyone seen the seen the chat channels? Constant insults and the whole pedo with the Elin, namecalling. I can ignore, but constantly pausing to interface and ignore, makes the already apparent pacing issues even more apparent.
While the combat is borderline fun, it reminded me how terrible the traditional level and questing structure is.
F2P or B2P in a one and a half year.
who cares what u think, if u dont agree then dont play it, does posting what u think make us believe u....., when u clearly did not play it till a respectable level to even make a qualified comment.
Oh, you mean like the OP's post? Or your post? Its all guesses at this point, His guess is no less valid than anyone elses. I would have to take his opinion at worth more than yours when you cant even be bothered to type out "you". I'm no spelling police but typing "U" is just plain lazy.
So i was curious about arena Play in Tera so i looked up a YouTube video. I wastched 5 vs.5. It was aweful. Kept using the same skills and then a bit of dodge. No cc at all and no tactics. this one mage only was casting this small black shadow bolt or something. Wow arena is so much better and skilled
imo, as in real life it's better to try it for yourself than rely on videos, some may like it some may not based on your personal experience.
thats the reason why most games provide beta. trial version etc...
With all these other high profile MMOs running ramparnt atm (SWTOR/TSW/GW2) I feel that TERA might just be that sleeper that makes a bigger spalsh than people are predicting. I tried out the CBT but didnt really get into it much as I knew my character was going to be deleted, I didnt want to get too attached. Now that Open Beta is upon us and we actually get to keep the character through to launch (normally unheard of) then I can really sink my teeth in.
This will be what Final Fantasy XIV and AION should have been (for the western audience) and I forsee a smooth laucnh.
Not to mention, it will knock Age of Conan off for being the best looking MMO. I simply have not seen better graphics (better than GW2 too) on PC, EVER!! Thats right, this has to be the most beautiful piece of electronic artwork I have ever seen!
If you have not seen it in action, you are missing it!
TERA for MMO GAME OF THE YEAR!!
So what you are saying is that, you are calling TERA MMO game of the year when you haven't even "sink your teeth in"
TERA got great action combat in a MMO sense, but it is a terrible action game overall.
Just because you can dodge a hit, doesn't make it great action combat, the attacks are extremely slow paced for an action combat game. You walk slow, attack slow, just because you have to aim, doesn't automatically make it fun.
The pacing of the game is terrible, just another point 1 to point 2 fetch quest. Story? What story? If anyone has actualloy read the quest text, the writing is terrible.
Unless you can participate in the political system and ignore questline from level 10 (I can tolerate the starting island), I'm not willing to grind 50 levels just so I can have fun. It will even be alright if it is viable to just join a guild and hunt BAM to level up, but then, if every guild is doing that, it will probably be queues.
Also the playerbase is terrible, there are constant kill steal even for the starting levels, they just come in and start killing your target,or maybe the lag is just that bad and they can't see when others are exactly at.
The community is terrible, not just the killstealing, have anyone seen the seen the chat channels? Constant insults and the whole pedo with the Elin, namecalling. I can ignore, but constantly pausing to interface and ignore, makes the already apparent pacing issues even more apparent.
While the combat is borderline fun, it reminded me how terrible the traditional level and questing structure is.
F2P or B2P in a one and a half year.
who cares what u think, if u dont agree then dont play it, does posting what u think make us believe u....., when u clearly did not play it till a respectable level to even make a qualified comment.
Oh, you mean like the OP's post? Or your post? Its all guesses at this point, His guess is no less valid than anyone elses. I would have to take his opinion at worth more than yours when you cant even be bothered to type out "you". I'm no spelling police but typing "U" is just plain lazy.
yea op when over the top and baited u and u took the bait hook line and sinker GJ^^
With all these other high profile MMOs running ramparnt atm (SWTOR/TSW/GW2) I feel that TERA might just be that sleeper that makes a bigger spalsh than people are predicting. I tried out the CBT but didnt really get into it much as I knew my character was going to be deleted, I didnt want to get too attached. Now that Open Beta is upon us and we actually get to keep the character through to launch (normally unheard of) then I can really sink my teeth in.
This will be what Final Fantasy XIV and AION should have been (for the western audience) and I forsee a smooth laucnh.
Not to mention, it will knock Age of Conan off for being the best looking MMO. I simply have not seen better graphics (better than GW2 too) on PC, EVER!! Thats right, this has to be the most beautiful piece of electronic artwork I have ever seen!
If you have not seen it in action, you are missing it!
TERA for MMO GAME OF THE YEAR!!
So what you are saying is that, you are calling TERA MMO game of the year when you haven't even "sink your teeth in"
TERA got great action combat in a MMO sense, but it is a terrible action game overall.
Just because you can dodge a hit, doesn't make it great action combat, the attacks are extremely slow paced for an action combat game. You walk slow, attack slow, just because you have to aim, doesn't automatically make it fun.
The pacing of the game is terrible, just another point 1 to point 2 fetch quest. Story? What story? If anyone has actualloy read the quest text, the writing is terrible.
Unless you can participate in the political system and ignore questline from level 10 (I can tolerate the starting island), I'm not willing to grind 50 levels just so I can have fun. It will even be alright if it is viable to just join a guild and hunt BAM to level up, but then, if every guild is doing that, it will probably be queues.
Also the playerbase is terrible, there are constant kill steal even for the starting levels, they just come in and start killing your target,or maybe the lag is just that bad and they can't see when others are exactly at.
The community is terrible, not just the killstealing, have anyone seen the seen the chat channels? Constant insults and the whole pedo with the Elin, namecalling. I can ignore, but constantly pausing to interface and ignore, makes the already apparent pacing issues even more apparent.
While the combat is borderline fun, it reminded me how terrible the traditional level and questing structure is.
F2P or B2P in a one and a half year.
who cares what u think, if u dont agree then dont play it, does posting what u think make us believe u....., when u clearly did not play it till a respectable level to even make a qualified comment.
Oh, you mean like the OP's post? Or your post? Its all guesses at this point, His guess is no less valid than anyone elses. I would have to take his opinion at worth more than yours when you cant even be bothered to type out "you". I'm no spelling police but typing "U" is just plain lazy.
yea op when over the top and baited u and u took the bait hook line and sinker GJ^^
Really? How is that since I havent replied to the OP at ALL. I replied to you and pointed out how childish your post was. So how again did the OP bait me? Oh I get it. you assume because I pointed out how pointless and lazy your post was that I was the same person you quoted. Might do you some good to use that brain of yours alittle and see it was 2 diffrent people.
This is a pretty big mischaracterization of GW2 and its players.
How can a game that focuses on competitive PvP be carebareish? Because there is regulation, fair play, rules? I'd gladly take on my team any player who made the top competitive PvP ranks in Guild Wars, over some basement dweller who gets off on "hunting sheep".
That aside, I was just looking at some Tera videos and found this level 20 world boss one:
I'm not sure I agree this will be a sleeper hit. I'm sure there are plenty of people who will like it, but it has an Anime feel that I think is kind of niche. The oversized weapons thing I kinda get, but the panty shots are just weird.
Its focus on casual gamer because the game is built for people to log on and do stuff w/o need to set up anything. Its played like a fps where you go in a game and play is pretty much how GW2 pvp will be. And for any thing can be competitve if you want it to be however from what i seen so far GW2 combat doesn't differ much from any other mmorpgs combat which puts a big quesiton mark on the skill required. I'll wait till someone i know play the game but i'm not holding my breath. Just putting in ability to cast instant skill while casting just throw skill outside the window.
Originally posted by Jetrpg
Ok agian, lets reframe this in reality Tera is a new mmo, americans want any new mmo to come around so they can stop playing wow like they have been for years. But their hate or fear of asians (which has already been disclaimed infact agree is opposite) is keeping them from TRYING the game.
Or could be they just think that Tera doesn't have je ne sais quoi that mmos need to be the next big thing.
Which of these seems more acurate/realistic to you.
could go more in to the yellow text but that be really going off topic.
Both, i understand there peopel who don't like it because well they don't like but if you been following this forum at all there good amount of indiction that people simplely won't play this game coz its asian.
Originally posted by xKingdomx
So what you are saying is that, you are calling TERA MMO game of the year when you haven't even "sink your teeth in"
TERA got great action combat in a MMO sense, but it is a terrible action game overall.
Just because you can dodge a hit, doesn't make it great action combat, the attacks are extremely slow paced for an action combat game. You walk slow, attack slow, just because you have to aim, doesn't automatically make it fun.
The pacing of the game is terrible, just another point 1 to point 2 fetch quest. Story? What story? If anyone has actualloy read the quest text, the writing is terrible.
Unless you can participate in the political system and ignore questline from level 10 (I can tolerate the starting island), I'm not willing to grind 50 levels just so I can have fun. It will even be alright if it is viable to just join a guild and hunt BAM to level up, but then, if every guild is doing that, it will probably be queues.
Also the playerbase is terrible, there are constant kill steal even for the starting levels, they just come in and start killing your target,or maybe the lag is just that bad and they can't see when others are exactly at.
The community is terrible, not just the killstealing, have anyone seen the seen the chat channels? Constant insults and the whole pedo with the Elin, namecalling. I can ignore, but constantly pausing to interface and ignore, makes the already apparent pacing issues even more apparent.
While the combat is borderline fun, it reminded me how terrible the traditional level and questing structure is.
F2P or B2P in a one and a half year.
Thank you for discribing the entire internet.
Also i guess the word strategy never comes in mind during combat? Is eveyrone used to mindless press 1 2 3 w/o thinking any more?
Originally posted by Celcius
There is nothing innovative about Tera other then the gameplay. Ultimately it is still just a themepark MMO only they have yet to include important features in it like Battlegrounds and Raiding. If you are looking for a new MMO that is different I suggest steering clear, but the combat system may keep you occupied for a little while. I personally thought the combat system felt a little weak even as it was touted to be really awesome action gameplay. The combat feels "forced" and not very polished (rooting animations,ability delay,ect) almost as if it is trying to be a console game but falling short. I highly doubt it will be a sleeper hit, but it will have a niche audience for a little while before it ultimately goes F2P.
Never play monster hunter? Or most action combat games? Or even freaken LoL or dota? O ya most of those game root you on ability. Heck street fighter, Teken all have roots.
Originally posted by Nethriil
So i was curious about arena Play in Tera so i looked up a YouTube video. I wastched 5 vs.5. It was aweful. Kept using the same skills and then a bit of dodge. No cc at all and no tactics. this one mage only was casting this small black shadow bolt or something. Wow arena is so much better and skilled
I lol so hard at this made my day =X and its only the start too.
With all these other high profile MMOs running ramparnt atm (SWTOR/TSW/GW2) I feel that TERA might just be that sleeper that makes a bigger spalsh than people are predicting. I tried out the CBT but didnt really get into it much as I knew my character was going to be deleted, I didnt want to get too attached. Now that Open Beta is upon us and we actually get to keep the character through to launch (normally unheard of) then I can really sink my teeth in.
This will be what Final Fantasy XIV and AION should have been (for the western audience) and I forsee a smooth laucnh.
Not to mention, it will knock Age of Conan off for being the best looking MMO. I simply have not seen better graphics (better than GW2 too) on PC, EVER!! Thats right, this has to be the most beautiful piece of electronic artwork I have ever seen!
If you have not seen it in action, you are missing it!
TERA for MMO GAME OF THE YEAR!!
So what you are saying is that, you are calling TERA MMO game of the year when you haven't even "sink your teeth in"
TERA got great action combat in a MMO sense, but it is a terrible action game over all. Well, I guess it's good that this is an actual MMO then, and we're comparing it to other MMOs, rather than action rpgs.
Just because you can dodge a hit, doesn't make it great action combat, the attacks are extremely slow paced for an action combat game. You walk slow, attack slow, just because you have to aim, doesn't automatically make it fun. I've seen nothing slow paced about this combat. It's kinetic, it's active, and it takes strategy. Furthermore, it makes you do something that no other combat system in any 3rd person MMO currently does: It makes you watch the action, rather than your action bar.
The pacing of the game is terrible, just another point 1 to point 2 fetch quest. Story? What story? If anyone has actualloy read the quest text, the writing is terrible. The questing is the weak part of this game, no doubt. Which is why you get a lot of xp from killing mobs, particularly BAMS. This + the open, immersive, seamless world makes exploring and looking for mobs to kill a lot of fun. Add in some very fun open world dungeons, and this game gives you choices that other games don't. If you so choose, questing in this game can be the activity you use as a change of pace while leveling, rather than as the primary way to level.
Unless you can participate in the political system and ignore questline from level 10 (I can tolerate the starting island), I'm not willing to grind 50 levels just so I can have fun. It will even be alright if it is viable to just join a guild and hunt BAM to level up, but then, if every guild is doing that, it will probably be queues. You can participate in the political system. Anyone can. Just involves being in a solid guild. And as mentioned above, you can completely ignore the majority of the quests if you want, aside from the main storyline quests. As far as the BAMS, I've seen videos of quite a few of them roaming areas, so I don't think they are just world bosses that spawn every so often like in other games. I saw numerous basilisks (level 22 BAMs in an area with plenty of people farming them. I saw other BAMS that were singles.
Also the playerbase is terrible, there are constant kill steal even for the starting levels, they just come in and start killing your target,or maybe the lag is just that bad and they can't see when others are exactly at.
The community is terrible, not just the killstealing, have anyone seen the seen the chat channels? Constant insults and the whole pedo with the Elin, namecalling. I can ignore, but constantly pausing to interface and ignore, makes the already apparent pacing issues even more apparent. Judging a game's community based on a beta weekend is pretty weak. Many folks just take those beta invites to troll in the first place, and have no intention of playing the game.
While the combat is borderline fun, it reminded me how terrible the traditional level and questing structure is.
F2P or B2P in a one and a half year. Subjective. But to each his own. TERA will do fine, but it will be a niche game. It suffers from the Korean game stereotype, as well as KTera's less than stellar launch. It also doesn't have nearly the hype of games like GW2 and TSW. But it will maintain a steady community of people that love the game, and I think it will thrive. I feel as though TERA will be for the hardcore PvP crowd that find the carebear, everyone-is-the-same, "Let's keep our PvP separate from our PvE so player's don't get their feelings hurt," nobody-is-special-or-unique style of play that a game like GW2 too casual. For the folks that want more of a challenge, and want it in an actual persistant, non-instanced, seamless world, they'll enjoy TERA.
So i was curious about arena Play in Tera so i looked up a YouTube video. I wastched 5 vs.5. It was aweful. Kept using the same skills and then a bit of dodge. No cc at all and no tactics. this one mage only was casting this small black shadow bolt or something. Wow arena is so much better and skilled
imo, as in real life it's better to try it for yourself than rely on videos, some may like it some may not based on your personal experience.
thats the reason why most games provide beta. trial version etc...
So i was curious about arena Play in Tera so i looked up a YouTube video. I wastched 5 vs.5. It was aweful. Kept using the same skills and then a bit of dodge. No cc at all and no tactics. this one mage only was casting this small black shadow bolt or something. Wow arena is so much better and skilled
imo, as in real life it's better to try it for yourself than rely on videos, some may like it some may not based on your personal experience.
thats the reason why most games provide beta. trial version etc...
Playing and watching is very different, unless you play it for yourself you can't tell whats going on in pvp at all. But if you want ot draw your conclusion based off the video i can't stop you, but Tera playing and watchins is not the same at all unlike some games.
So i was curious about arena Play in Tera so i looked up a YouTube video. I wastched 5 vs.5. It was aweful. Kept using the same skills and then a bit of dodge. No cc at all and no tactics. this one mage only was casting this small black shadow bolt or something. Wow arena is so much better and skilled
imo, as in real life it's better to try it for yourself than rely on videos, some may like it some may not based on your personal experience.
thats the reason why most games provide beta. trial version etc...
Playing and watching is very different, unless you play it for yourself you can't tell whats going on in pvp at all. But if you want ot draw your conclusion based off the video i can't stop you, but Tera playing and watchins is not the same at all unlike some games.
Well either everyone that has posted pvp videos Are really bad players or pvp kind of sucks. And no gw2 and tera pvp Are not similar at all. I am no gw2 fanboy but the difference is huge
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Hehe I know I was just being a smart-alic. You should watch the Warrior video a few threads down. That guy is funny and at about the 8:45 mark (I think) makes reference about his "three crystals instead of four", hilarious.
Edit: Wow, it was father down than I thought:
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/346933/Pretty-entertaining-warrior-videoguide.html
Just not worth my time anymore.
TERAs pvp looks interesting but it also looks like a grind, and pandas dont help. All three games have similarities marking their generation, but Secret World will seriously lack PVP, which is a shame with its skill system. OF all things I think GW2 will triumph with immersion.
they certainly spent a lot of time on those boob animations! that's what i call action!
Here we go again with how amazing this game looks. It just doesnt, it makes terrible use of color samples, textures, lighting bump mapping and spectral surfaces.
Its overly bright and looks only slightly better then most F2P games pooping out of Koreas MMO shoot.. Also spell effects are rather terrible and sound effects are as bad as they get.
Gameplay seems decent Ill give it that. People are mistaking design for graphical quality. I think people like the design of the game the "pretty" girls etc. But the actual envionments are washed out and 2 dimensional looking.
Or people see one highly detailed NPC monster and go WOW look at that, this game looks amazing!!! You have to look at every part of a games graphics not just one or two things.
Sorry OP but I simply don't feel like TERA will be a sleeper hit.
We already get very mixed reactions from gamers and press alike who had hands on experience - some who praise combat and look over the other conventional mmorpg systems while others simply don't care about the combat and look at the game as a whole.
Mixed reactions is already a bad sign in my book.
Maybe if it was much less hyped but with overwhelmingly positive reactions from players in general who tried it then ya, the game may certaintly be a sleeper hit. However, that is just not the case.
Imo, the game certaintly won't be a hit but will definately survive and have its own niche. Specifically, for those that don't like great changes in their mmorpg but would instead, just want a more action orientated combat.
Looking forward to EQL and EQN.
Or maybe they want to play a game where PVP and PVE aren't separated? not everyone likes to play carebear MMOs
"Esport with tournaments is for hardcore pvp'rs that want to be competitive. Openworld PVP with ganking and griefing is for casuals that just wants their pvp mixed with pve from time to time."
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Can you provide any proof of a F2P game with similar graphics?
It is very colorful, shiny and bloomy but it does have very high resolution graphics. Games that go the more "realistic" route, which it sounds like you are more a fan of, tend to look dated a lot sooner than later. It was the "look" they were going for and style preference aside they did a good job.
TERA does have great graphics "at every part of" it's look, the environments blend together very well. You can tell this pretty easily in a game by looking at what was placed in the gameworld and what is part of the gameworld. You might not like the look but they did a consistant job of making everything fit together.
Just not worth my time anymore.
There is nothing innovative about Tera other then the gameplay. Ultimately it is still just a themepark MMO only they have yet to include important features in it like Battlegrounds and Raiding. If you are looking for a new MMO that is different I suggest steering clear, but the combat system may keep you occupied for a little while. I personally thought the combat system felt a little weak even as it was touted to be really awesome action gameplay. The combat feels "forced" and not very polished (rooting animations,ability delay,ect) almost as if it is trying to be a console game but falling short. I highly doubt it will be a sleeper hit, but it will have a niche audience for a little while before it ultimately goes F2P.
True, but a LOT do. I simply will not play games that are gankfests any more. I no longer find them entertaining.
While this may be true, the fact of the matter is that the only really successful MMOs outside of say, Eve, have seperated PvE and PvP. The MMORPGs that did not seperate them have never really had enough success to be really well off, let alone a "sleeper hit".
MMOs have always been more PvE focused and seperating the PvP elements has been a neccessary evil in order to foster that. Exploration,progression,story, and feeling as though you have a purpose in a living online world is essentially the core of MMOs. PvP does have a place here but it is usually far less interesting as ultimately the PvP game does not change as drastically as the PvE game. What this means for the life of an MMO is that it will always be greatly extended upon with strong elements associated with the my formerly mentioned areas of importance.
Could you provide examples of this through screenshots of what YOU consider terrible use of?
This *is* the UnrealEngine3 we're talking about here...
The length people will go through to discredit TERA in their own eyes. *sigh*
L2P TERA combat:
You are 100% correct on the points that make an MMO. Ironically enough this is why I'm excited for TERA. While its true that TERA has tons of quests, very basic quests for the most part, they are not required for progression. The main quest however does tell you what's going on in the gameworld and is good to do.
There is a linear path from 1-20, unfortunately IMO, but there are forks and options after that to explore which is not always the case with themeparks. A huge draw for me is the abundance of group content outside of the instances. As far as purpose i think the freedoms given to you let you feel that if you want to. Oh, then there is the combat which keeps being brought up as it's only strength is really the icing on the cake.
One thing that is working against TERA is that other than the combat it can be seen as offering nothing "new". While it's not trying to break molds it combines a lot of features from other games as well as offers features not seen in other games and is suprisingly deep. One important point is that there are separate PvP and PvE servers.
Just not worth my time anymore.
So what you are saying is that, you are calling TERA MMO game of the year when you haven't even "sink your teeth in"
TERA got great action combat in a MMO sense, but it is a terrible action game overall.
Just because you can dodge a hit, doesn't make it great action combat, the attacks are extremely slow paced for an action combat game. You walk slow, attack slow, just because you have to aim, doesn't automatically make it fun.
The pacing of the game is terrible, just another point 1 to point 2 fetch quest. Story? What story? If anyone has actualloy read the quest text, the writing is terrible.
Unless you can participate in the political system and ignore questline from level 10 (I can tolerate the starting island), I'm not willing to grind 50 levels just so I can have fun. It will even be alright if it is viable to just join a guild and hunt BAM to level up, but then, if every guild is doing that, it will probably be queues.
Also the playerbase is terrible, there are constant kill steal even for the starting levels, they just come in and start killing your target,or maybe the lag is just that bad and they can't see when others are exactly at.
The community is terrible, not just the killstealing, have anyone seen the seen the chat channels? Constant insults and the whole pedo with the Elin, namecalling. I can ignore, but constantly pausing to interface and ignore, makes the already apparent pacing issues even more apparent.
While the combat is borderline fun, it reminded me how terrible the traditional level and questing structure is.
F2P or B2P in a one and a half year.
How much WoW could a WoWhater hate, if a WoWhater could hate WoW?
As much WoW as a WoWhater would, if a WoWhater could hate WoW.
who cares what u think, if u dont agree then dont play it, does posting what u think make us believe u....., when u clearly did not play it till a respectable level to even make a qualified comment.
Oh, you mean like the OP's post? Or your post? Its all guesses at this point, His guess is no less valid than anyone elses. I would have to take his opinion at worth more than yours when you cant even be bothered to type out "you". I'm no spelling police but typing "U" is just plain lazy.
imo, as in real life it's better to try it for yourself than rely on videos, some may like it some may not based on your personal experience.
thats the reason why most games provide beta. trial version etc...
yea op when over the top and baited u and u took the bait hook line and sinker GJ^^
Really? How is that since I havent replied to the OP at ALL. I replied to you and pointed out how childish your post was. So how again did the OP bait me? Oh I get it. you assume because I pointed out how pointless and lazy your post was that I was the same person you quoted. Might do you some good to use that brain of yours alittle and see it was 2 diffrent people.
Its focus on casual gamer because the game is built for people to log on and do stuff w/o need to set up anything. Its played like a fps where you go in a game and play is pretty much how GW2 pvp will be. And for any thing can be competitve if you want it to be however from what i seen so far GW2 combat doesn't differ much from any other mmorpgs combat which puts a big quesiton mark on the skill required. I'll wait till someone i know play the game but i'm not holding my breath. Just putting in ability to cast instant skill while casting just throw skill outside the window.
could go more in to the yellow text but that be really going off topic.
Both, i understand there peopel who don't like it because well they don't like but if you been following this forum at all there good amount of indiction that people simplely won't play this game coz its asian.
Thank you for discribing the entire internet.
Also i guess the word strategy never comes in mind during combat? Is eveyrone used to mindless press 1 2 3 w/o thinking any more?
Never play monster hunter? Or most action combat games? Or even freaken LoL or dota? O ya most of those game root you on ability. Heck street fighter, Teken all have roots.
I lol so hard at this made my day =X and its only the start too.
imo, as in real life it's better to try it for yourself than rely on videos, some may like it some may not based on your personal experience.
thats the reason why most games provide beta. trial version etc...
Well looking at this video doesnt give me great hopes for pvphttp://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=/&gl=US#/watch?v=vjOpfEKHiG4
Maybe this is just a pve game
Playing and watching is very different, unless you play it for yourself you can't tell whats going on in pvp at all. But if you want ot draw your conclusion based off the video i can't stop you, but Tera playing and watchins is not the same at all unlike some games.
imo, as in real life it's better to try it for yourself than rely on videos, some may like it some may not based on your personal experience.
thats the reason why most games provide beta. trial version etc...
Well looking at this video doesnt give me great hopes for pvp http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=/&gl=US#/watch?v=vjOpfEKHiG4 Maybe this is just a pve gamePlaying and watching is very different, unless you play it for yourself you can't tell whats going on in pvp at all. But if you want ot draw your conclusion based off the video i can't stop you, but Tera playing and watchins is not the same at all unlike some games.
Well either everyone that has posted pvp videos Are really bad players or pvp kind of sucks. And no gw2 and tera pvp Are not similar at all. I am no gw2 fanboy but the difference is hugeNiche game for people and pedobears who like asian games and sexy character models.
Probably most of L2 and Aion gamers are migrating to it.
Wouldn't expect anything over 500k subs though, if even that.
Might be a sleeper hit once it goes F2P / Freemium later on.