They probably just reached their max limit for the beta weekend event. No way you can sell out an online file!
Exactly. I wonder how many people who are trolling about this supposed marketing spin were the same ones trolling about the beta access only to those who pre purchased, and the same ones trolling about the CS, and the same ones trolling about every single little detail regarding GW2.
The complain about why they're not buying the game, and now that they can't get it, they're complaining about not being able to buy it. You just can't win with these people haha
Marketing 101 its amazing how many people don't unerstand how it works.
A. You limit the amount of supply.
B. You create hype to sell your limited supply
C. Because supply is limited demand looks extremely high.
If you live in the US you know exactly what this is. OPEC limits oil production to increase stock price therefor increasing oil cost and the price we pay at the pump. The only difference is Anet isnt doing it to charge more they're doing it to create more hype and news. Believe me if they wanted they could let everyone in beta they have the experience and hardware to do so.
Find me one single news article written by a journalist surrounding the supposed frantic hype about GW2's sold out digital copies. Just one, one single news article.
They probably just reached their max limit for the beta weekend event. No way you can sell out an online file!
Exactly. I wonder how many people who are trolling about this supposed marketing spin were the same ones trolling about the beta access only to those who pre purchased, and the same ones trolling about the CS, and the same ones trolling about every single little detail regarding GW2.
The complain about why they're not buying the game, and now that they can't get it, they're complaining about not being able to buy it. You just can't win with these people haha
well the thing is people cant find enough stuff to complain about, so watch this thread go crazy(well it technically is already) as time goes on with OH DAMN MARKETINZ HAZ WIN!!!!!!! SUPLLY AND DEMANDZ, ZOMG GREEEDD@!!!
The truth may be puzzling. It may take some work to grapple with. It may be counterintuitive. It may contradict deeply held prejudices. It may not be consonant with what we desperately want to be true. But our preferences do not determine what's true.
FYI - went to gamestop . com to order digital download a few mins. ago - something is wrong with their system. Went all the way through the purchase path, got an order confirmation, but no email confirmation. When I go into my order history, nothing showing up.
I'm been waiting 20+ mins on customer support line for download orders = "higher call volume than expected, please continue to hold"
In real life, when you restrict supply, the price of the product goes up.
When ArenaNet restricts supply, the price stays the same and they lose guaranteed sales.
This is an attempt to keep the beta weekend load under control and they should be commended for making the hard decision to stop taking people's money in the interest of a healthy BETA.
I may be on the side of error here but how can you sell out of a product that's a digital copy?
Because servers are going on stress test and for the BWE to run smoothly, they need to control the amount of players logging on. It isn't about dumping a giant amount of players in at the same time, because they will only mean complete crash no matter what. They need to be able to control the load going onto the servers, and incrementally add to that load.
PS: they have warned about this for like at least a week by now.
How much WoW could a WoWhater hate, if a WoWhater could hate WoW? As much WoW as a WoWhater would, if a WoWhater could hate WoW.
Marketing 101 its amazing how many people don't unerstand how it works.
A. You limit the amount of supply.
B. You create hype to sell your limited supply
C. Because supply is limited demand looks extremely high.
If you live in the US you know exactly what this is. OPEC limits oil production to increase stock price therefor increasing oil cost and the price we pay at the pump. The only difference is Anet isnt doing it to charge more they're doing it to create more hype and news. Believe me if they wanted they could let everyone in beta they have the experience and hardware to do so.
Isn't marketing 101 the opposite of what you said? You provide enough of you product and then some to meet the demand?
The diffierence in your example is that people HAVE to use the gas, GW2 is an entirely optional product. I
In real life, when you restrict supply, the price of the product goes up.
When ArenaNet restricts supply, the price stays the same and they lose guaranteed sales.
This is an attempt to keep the beta weekend load under control and they should be commended for making the hard decision to stop taking people's money in the interest of a healthy BETA.
^This. You know they care about gamers when they do this. Dangle themselves from a cliff to make sure they don't hurt others. Wish other companies would've went this route.
Nothing like artificially limiting the supply of a (theoretically) infinitely distributable product to increase demand. How classy. If any other company did this (like Blizzard, EA, THQ, etc.), people would be calling for blood. But since Arenanet can apparently do no wrong, everybody's cool with it. UGH.
Though I've got to hand it to them, it's brilliant marketing at least.
Or maybe they just want to ensure a good service for those in beta and study the data they recibe to increase the number of servers and improve performance. But yes, you seem to be right... they are limiting the number of unlimited digital copies to increase demand...
Why should anyone care about the service they give to beta players? Beta isn't about enjoying the game before it's released, it's about testing.
If anything a company would want a near launch amount of people in certain stages of betas in order to work out bugs as well as stress test the servers, not limit them via pre-orders of all things.
In real life, when you restrict supply, the price of the product goes up.
When ArenaNet restricts supply, the price stays the same and they lose guaranteed sales.
This is an attempt to keep the beta weekend load under control and they should be commended for making the hard decision to stop taking people's money in the interest of a healthy BETA.
^This. You know they care about gamers when they do this. Dangle themselves from a cliff to make sure they don't hurt others. Wish other companies would've went this route.
How exactly does limiting beta testers via pre-orders help us on launch day? It may help you enjoy the beta more, but that's hardly anything important at all.
In real life, when you restrict supply, the price of the product goes up.
When ArenaNet restricts supply, the price stays the same and they lose guaranteed sales.
This is an attempt to keep the beta weekend load under control and they should be commended for making the hard decision to stop taking people's money in the interest of a healthy BETA.
^This. You know they care about gamers when they do this. Dangle themselves from a cliff to make sure they don't hurt others. Wish other companies would've went this route.
except you can still get the digital download from Best Buy, Gamestop... everywhere else
It's hype. They want a headline. Tera is too good.
In real life, when you restrict supply, the price of the product goes up.
When ArenaNet restricts supply, the price stays the same and they lose guaranteed sales.
This is an attempt to keep the beta weekend load under control and they should be commended for making the hard decision to stop taking people's money in the interest of a healthy BETA.
^This. You know they care about gamers when they do this. Dangle themselves from a cliff to make sure they don't hurt others. Wish other companies would've went this route.
except you can still get the digital download from Best Buy, Gamestop... everywhere else
It's hype. They want a headline. Tera is too good.
This is an attempt to keep the beta weekend load under control and they should be commended for making the hard decision to stop taking people's money in the interest of a healthy BETA.
This. They told us weeks ago that they would temporarily restrict pre-purchases if they reached their beta limit.
Anybody claiming that this is some marketing ploy has no clue of what they are talking about.
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Why can I still get it from everywhere else?
Because distributors don't listen. They didn't listen when they were told not to pre-purchase anything until the 10th either.
TOR does it: All agree it is a marketing ploy to affect demand.
GW2 does it: No guys, it's their limited server space. They didn't expect that announcing guaranteed beta with pre-purchase would result in so many people buying copies!
Rose-tinted glasses. Some of you act like A-Net is a charity and doesn't actually want your money. And some of you act like any company trying to make money is a bad thing. Neither are correct ways of thinking.
In real life, when you restrict supply, the price of the product goes up.
When ArenaNet restricts supply, the price stays the same and they lose guaranteed sales.
This is an attempt to keep the beta weekend load under control and they should be commended for making the hard decision to stop taking people's money in the interest of a healthy BETA.
^This. You know they care about gamers when they do this. Dangle themselves from a cliff to make sure they don't hurt others. Wish other companies would've went this route.
except you can still get the digital download from Best Buy, Gamestop... everywhere else
It's hype. They want a headline. Tera is too good.
That's because those are boxes, the codes are inside them, already printed out. Therefore they are counted as part of the limit.
Also, i'd go and watch gamebreaker They trash your beloved game. He throws the box. Something that's only ever done for truly bad games.
Nothing like artificially limiting the supply of a (theoretically) infinitely distributable product to increase demand. How classy. If any other company did this (like Blizzard, EA, THQ, etc.), people would be calling for blood. But since Arenanet can apparently do no wrong, everybody's cool with it. UGH.
Though I've got to hand it to them, it's brilliant marketing at least.
It's not really hard to understand. Players require servers. Only so many servers have been setup. This BWE is only 2 days long. If they didn't stop the preorder sales and had a large number of purchases this weekend then they might run out of server space. Given it takes time to setup and test new servers, the lack of space would result in tons of crying and complaining. So, as you can see, they did the right thing.
In real life, when you restrict supply, the price of the product goes up.
When ArenaNet restricts supply, the price stays the same and they lose guaranteed sales.
This is an attempt to keep the beta weekend load under control and they should be commended for making the hard decision to stop taking people's money in the interest of a healthy BETA.
^This. You know they care about gamers when they do this. Dangle themselves from a cliff to make sure they don't hurt others. Wish other companies would've went this route.
except you can still get the digital download from Best Buy, Gamestop... everywhere else
It's hype. They want a headline. Tera is too good.
That's because those are boxes, the codes are inside them, already printed out. Therefore they are counted as part of the limit.
Also, i'd go an watch gamebreaker They trash your beloved game. He throws the box. Something that's only ever done for truly bad games.
TERA-BLE is DoA according to them.
The gamebreaker guys like WoW and SWTOR.
These are digital downloads from Best Buy and others, not boxes
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Exactly. I wonder how many people who are trolling about this supposed marketing spin were the same ones trolling about the beta access only to those who pre purchased, and the same ones trolling about the CS, and the same ones trolling about every single little detail regarding GW2.
The complain about why they're not buying the game, and now that they can't get it, they're complaining about not being able to buy it. You just can't win with these people haha
Find me one single news article written by a journalist surrounding the supposed frantic hype about GW2's sold out digital copies. Just one, one single news article.
well the thing is people cant find enough stuff to complain about, so watch this thread go crazy(well it technically is already) as time goes on with OH DAMN MARKETINZ HAZ WIN!!!!!!! SUPLLY AND DEMANDZ, ZOMG GREEEDD@!!!
The truth may be puzzling. It may take some work to grapple with. It may be counterintuitive. It may contradict deeply held prejudices. It may not be consonant with what we desperately want to be true. But our preferences do not determine what's true.
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FYI - went to gamestop . com to order digital download a few mins. ago - something is wrong with their system. Went all the way through the purchase path, got an order confirmation, but no email confirmation. When I go into my order history, nothing showing up.
I'm been waiting 20+ mins on customer support line for download orders = "higher call volume than expected, please continue to hold"
In real life, when you restrict supply, the price of the product goes up.
When ArenaNet restricts supply, the price stays the same and they lose guaranteed sales.
This is an attempt to keep the beta weekend load under control and they should be commended for making the hard decision to stop taking people's money in the interest of a healthy BETA.
Because servers are going on stress test and for the BWE to run smoothly, they need to control the amount of players logging on. It isn't about dumping a giant amount of players in at the same time, because they will only mean complete crash no matter what. They need to be able to control the load going onto the servers, and incrementally add to that load.
PS: they have warned about this for like at least a week by now.
How much WoW could a WoWhater hate, if a WoWhater could hate WoW?
As much WoW as a WoWhater would, if a WoWhater could hate WoW.
Isn't marketing 101 the opposite of what you said? You provide enough of you product and then some to meet the demand?
The diffierence in your example is that people HAVE to use the gas, GW2 is an entirely optional product. I
I pre purchased GW2 and will be playing the beta this weekend... does that make me the 1% or the 99%?
occupy Anet!!
^This. You know they care about gamers when they do this. Dangle themselves from a cliff to make sure they don't hurt others. Wish other companies would've went this route.
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what a joke.
25 year old game engine
"B2P" = F2P cash shop except , yeah, $60
and now they've run out of bits and bytes
Why should anyone care about the service they give to beta players? Beta isn't about enjoying the game before it's released, it's about testing.
If anything a company would want a near launch amount of people in certain stages of betas in order to work out bugs as well as stress test the servers, not limit them via pre-orders of all things.
How exactly does limiting beta testers via pre-orders help us on launch day? It may help you enjoy the beta more, but that's hardly anything important at all.
anyone have the total sales figures for this?
except you can still get the digital download from Best Buy, Gamestop... everywhere else
It's hype. They want a headline. Tera is too good.
I don't think any of your jokes were very good.
Or were you trying to be serious?
If so, that's hilarious.
There's limited supply because there's limited server space
lol...
Why can I still get it from everywhere else?
This. They told us weeks ago that they would temporarily restrict pre-purchases if they reached their beta limit.
Anybody claiming that this is some marketing ploy has no clue of what they are talking about.
Because distributors don't listen. They didn't listen when they were told not to pre-purchase anything until the 10th either.
I can't help but snicker that a digital version could ever be sold out. Dorito's is thinking WTF?
In this case beta limits can be the only reason.
TOR does it: All agree it is a marketing ploy to affect demand.
GW2 does it: No guys, it's their limited server space. They didn't expect that announcing guaranteed beta with pre-purchase would result in so many people buying copies!
Rose-tinted glasses. Some of you act like A-Net is a charity and doesn't actually want your money. And some of you act like any company trying to make money is a bad thing. Neither are correct ways of thinking.
That's because those are boxes, the codes are inside them, already printed out. Therefore they are counted as part of the limit.
Also, i'd go and watch gamebreaker They trash your beloved game. He throws the box. Something that's only ever done for truly bad games.
'TERA-BLE is DoA' according to them.
lol so true so true.....
People who are trolling about this I think could care less about the facts. They'll trash GW2 any chance they get, however ridiculous.
It's not really hard to understand. Players require servers. Only so many servers have been setup. This BWE is only 2 days long. If they didn't stop the preorder sales and had a large number of purchases this weekend then they might run out of server space. Given it takes time to setup and test new servers, the lack of space would result in tons of crying and complaining. So, as you can see, they did the right thing.
The gamebreaker guys like WoW and SWTOR.
These are digital downloads from Best Buy and others, not boxes