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not actually that awesome

bishboshbishbosh Member Posts: 388

if you look at it closely combat is still tab target combat but every class has a skill called dodge that allows you to avoid and ability... it is really not that amazing or innovative or different at all

 

dynamic events are not dynamic. they are like invasions/rifts in rift. they have minimal affect on the world and they just keep repeating. boring...... fighting some huge dragin called the shatterer or fending off centaur ad nauseum is not dynamic.

 

3 faction pvp is good. the issue with pvp in most themepark mmorpgs is that there is no lasting impression on the world due to pvp events. its not like i can rent out shops and lease the use of the forge and workbench after capturing a castle...... the pvp is largely meaningless. the game does not take advantage of mmorpg genres ability to provide a living breathing world. 3 faction PvP will play out like an objective based FPS or MOBA, not like an ongoing war between 3 factions.

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  • xposeidonxposeidon Member Posts: 384

    Yeah it's not that awesome, that's why most people that were in last beta are eager to play again. Thanks for enlightening us.

    Remember... all I'm offering is the truth. Nothing more.

  • xposeidonxposeidon Member Posts: 384
    Originally posted by bishbosh
    Originally posted by xposeidon

    Yeah it's not that awesome, that's why most people that were in last beta are eager to play again. Thanks for enlightening us.

    just like swtor

    Yep, nothing new here, you may move along.

    Remember... all I'm offering is the truth. Nothing more.

  • fiontarfiontar Member UncommonPosts: 3,682
    Originally posted by bishbosh

    if you look at it closely combat is still tab target combat but every class has a skill called dodge that allows you to avoid and ability... it is really not that amazing or innovative or different at all

     

    dynamic events are not dynamic. they are like invasions/rifts in rift. they have minimal affect on the world and they just keep repeating. boring...... fighting some huge dragin called the shatterer or fending off centaur ad nauseum is not dynamic.

     

    3 faction pvp is good. the issue with pvp in most themepark mmorpgs is that there is no lasting impression on the world due to pvp events. its not like i can rent out shops and lease the use of the forge and workbench after capturing a castle...... the pvp is largely meaningless. the game does not take advantage of mmorpg genres ability to provide a living breathing world. 3 faction PvP will play out like an objective based FPS or MOBA, not like an ongoing war between 3 factions.

    You are a couple months late. We already saw a bunch of posts off the same exact script, but those arguements collapsed once people actually got a chance to participate in a Beta Weekend Event. If you ever get a chance to participate, you should do so with an open mind. Good MMOs are few and far between and you are doing yourself a dis-service by prejudging this game so negatively.

    Want to know more about GW2 and why there is so much buzz? Start here: Guild Wars 2 Mass Info for the Uninitiated
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  • CrunkJuice2CrunkJuice2 Member Posts: 568

    OP forgot to call the game wow with dodge

     

    your doing it wrong man

     

     

  • VolkonVolkon Member UncommonPosts: 3,748

    And the word of the day, kiddies, is... REGURGITATION. Let's all say it together... RE-GUR-GI-TA-TION. For example, when someone keeps repeating the same falsehoods over and over again, we call that REGURGITATION.

    Oderint, dum metuant.

  • bishboshbishbosh Member Posts: 388
    Originally posted by xposeidon
    Originally posted by bishbosh
    Originally posted by xposeidon

    Yeah it's not that awesome, that's why most people that were in last beta are eager to play again. Thanks for enlightening us.

    just like swtor

    Yep, nothing new here, you may move along.

    this is actually my thread

  • bishboshbishbosh Member Posts: 388

    no one here has actually bothered to refute any of the points i made. just personal attacks

    i guess i must be correct

  • ThemehosptalThemehosptal Member Posts: 48

     

    Originally posted by Marchosias31

    Nothing new here. Its the same as Warhammer. Clunky movements, same type of combat mechanics. Just a few twists, thats it. I can't believe I waited years for this game to have it turn out like an MMO allready in existence.

     

    The only redeeming quality is the length of the fights. It brings more strategy into the equation. And the dodge ability.

     

    Other then that, we have a Warhammer pvp clone. Way to go ANET......../facepalm

    too bad you already gave them your $50. maybe research properly next time.

     
  • CrunkJuice2CrunkJuice2 Member Posts: 568
    Originally posted by bishbosh
    Originally posted by xposeidon

    Yeah it's not that awesome, that's why most people that were in last beta are eager to play again. Thanks for enlightening us.

    just like swtor

     

    wasnt the beta of swtor where everyone trashed it and thats where the wow in space thing came from?

    cuz ive heard alot more people say the beta of gw2 is good then i have bad

     

  • jazz.bejazz.be Member UncommonPosts: 962
    Originally posted by bishbosh
    Originally posted by xposeidon
    Originally posted by bishbosh
    Originally posted by xposeidon

    Yeah it's not that awesome, that's why most people that were in last beta are eager to play again. Thanks for enlightening us.

    just like swtor

    Yep, nothing new here, you may move along.

    this is actually my thread

    I haven't preorder or played GuldWars 2 (yet?)

    But seriously, who are you trying to convince? People you don't know? Or yourself?

    As a complete outsider you may believe me when I say that your thread has absolutely no point.

  • grimm6thgrimm6th Member Posts: 973
    Originally posted by xposeidon

    Yeah it's not that awesome, that's why most people that were in last beta are eager to play again. Thanks for enlightening us.

    Yup.  This.

     

    @OP - Don't try to review games you haven't played.  Your opinions aren't exactly backed up by any special amount of gamer cred, so good luck being taken seriously.  Now, off to read generic unimformative thread #35801.

    I used to TL;DR, but then I took a bullet point to the footnote.

  • RaoraRaora Member Posts: 243
    Originally posted by bishbosh

    no one here has actually bothered to refute any of the points i made. just personal attacks

    i guess i must be correct

    Do not know if you are right or not. But you just flamed the holy grail of games of people who read this site and you are getting attacked for it is all. Say what you want about any game here but attack GW2 and go down in flames

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Originally posted by CrunkJuice2
    Originally posted by bishbosh
    Originally posted by xposeidon

    Yeah it's not that awesome, that's why most people that were in last beta are eager to play again. Thanks for enlightening us.

    just like swtor

     

    wasnt the beta of swtor where everyone trashed it and thats where the wow in space thing came from?

    cuz ive heard alot more people say the beta of gw2 is good then i have bad

     

    "WOW in space"  came as soon as the game was announced and got worse once people saw the art direction. On top of that we're only hearing from those willing enough to pre-purchase the game, they're already sold on the game.

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  • DannyGloverDannyGlover Member Posts: 1,277


    Originally posted by bishbosh
    no one here has actually bothered to refute any of the points i made. just personal attacks

    i guess i must be correct


    You're confusing point with opinion. You really don't have a point, you're just sharing your opinion. There's nothing to refute. Sorry people are bashing you. You are correct in assuming your opinions are yours.

    I sit on a man's back, choking him and making him carry me, and yet assure myself and others that I am very sorry for him and wish to ease his lot by all possible means - except by getting off his back.

  • RaoraRaora Member Posts: 243
    Originally posted by grimm6th
    Originally posted by xposeidon

    Yeah it's not that awesome, that's why most people that were in last beta are eager to play again. Thanks for enlightening us.

    Yup.  This.

     

    @OP - Don't try to review games you haven't played.  Your opinions aren't exactly backed up by any special amount of gamer cred, so good luck being taken seriously.  Now, off to read generic unimformative thread #35801.

    you have to have gamer cred to have an opinion?

  • AmjocoAmjoco Member UncommonPosts: 4,860

    Moderators this guy is a just here to cause GW2 hate. Please delete the discussion.

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  • RebelScum99RebelScum99 Member Posts: 1,090
    Originally posted by CrunkJuice2
    Originally posted by bishbosh
    Originally posted by xposeidon

    Yeah it's not that awesome, that's why most people that were in last beta are eager to play again. Thanks for enlightening us.

    just like swtor

     

    wasnt the beta of swtor where everyone trashed it and thats where the wow in space thing came from?

    cuz ive heard alot more people say the beta of gw2 is good then i have bad

     

    The beta of SWTOR was overwhelmingly positive for the majority of those who played it, present company included.  The "WoW in space" complaints had begun long before anyone got into beta, as they were the result of Bioware's claims that they weren't going to depart from the WoW formula.  

    Other notable "positive" betas:  Warhammer and Age of Conan.  I'm not saying that GW2 is going to end up like any of those three games, btw.  I'm just commenting that positive reviews from betas are pretty commonplace, even for games that don't do well live.

     

  • Um where do people get this stuff?  If I look closely I will fool myself into seeing something that is patently false?

     

    Erm I actually played the game avoid arrows without using the dodge mechanic.  Melee has no need of any targets at all.  Check your facts before you try to rip something up.  And certainly make sure you get stuff right before you try to tell people that they have it wrong.

     

    I mean seriously why are people coming out of the woodwork and saying things that are demonstrably false?  Even if some of the "guided" projectiles can be avoided.   The only thing I have seen that always hit are beams like certain channeled lightning effects.

     

    Anyway this is getting really sad. 

  • RaoraRaora Member Posts: 243
    Originally posted by Amjoco

    Moderators this guy is a just here to cause GW2 hate. Please delete the discussion.

    he has a right to express his opinion and not have it clsed down just because he disagrees with everyone here

  • bishboshbishbosh Member Posts: 388
    Originally posted by DannyGlover

     


    Originally posted by bishbosh
    no one here has actually bothered to refute any of the points i made. just personal attacks

     

    i guess i must be correct


     

    You're confusing point with opinion. You really don't have a point, you're just sharing your opinion. There's nothing to refute. Sorry people are bashing you. You are correct in assuming your opinions are yours.

    it is FACT that gw2 combat is tab target with a dodge skill

    it is FACT that dynamics events just keep on repeating with minimal lasting effect on the game world

    it is FACT that you can not rent out shops or lease a forge after you capture a castle

     

    im sorry but provided FACTS. its not my fault almost everyone here is so blinded by fanboyism.

  • StrixMaximaStrixMaxima Member UncommonPosts: 865
    Originally posted by DannyGlover

     


    Originally posted by bishbosh
    no one here has actually bothered to refute any of the points i made. just personal attacks

     

    i guess i must be correct


     

    You're confusing point with opinion. You really don't have a point, you're just sharing your opinion. There's nothing to refute. Sorry people are bashing you. You are correct in assuming your opinions are yours.

    Pretty much, this. The OP is entitled to his personal opinion, but I think few would agree with these impressions. The game looks good, plays well, is very organic and meaningful.

    I do hope you find something to play that fits your adstringent tastes, though.

  • Master10KMaster10K Member Posts: 3,065
    Originally posted by RebelScum99
    Originally posted by CrunkJuice2
    Originally posted by bishbosh
    Originally posted by xposeidon

    Yeah it's not that awesome, that's why most people that were in last beta are eager to play again. Thanks for enlightening us.

    just like swtor

     

    wasnt the beta of swtor where everyone trashed it and thats where the wow in space thing came from?

    cuz ive heard alot more people say the beta of gw2 is good then i have bad

     

    The beta of SWTOR was overwhelmingly positive for the majority of those who played it, present company included.  The "WoW in space" complaints had begun long before anyone got into beta, as they were the result of Bioware's claims that they weren't going to depart from the WoW formula.  

    Other notable "postive" betas:  Warhammer and Age of Conan.  I'm not saying that GW2 is going to end up like any of those three games, btw.  I'm just commenting that positive reviews from betas are pretty commonplace, even for games that don't do well live.

    Yeah, I remember that SW:TOR beta. It was when everyone was boosted to level 50 and was able to try out the endgame PvP and Ilum. Remember that. image

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  • DannyGloverDannyGlover Member Posts: 1,277


    Originally posted by bishbosh
    Originally posted by DannyGlover   Originally posted by bishbosh no one here has actually bothered to refute any of the points i made. just personal attacks   i guess i must be correct
      You're confusing point with opinion. You really don't have a point, you're just sharing your opinion. There's nothing to refute. Sorry people are bashing you. You are correct in assuming your opinions are yours.
    it is FACT that gw2 combat is tab target with a dodge skill

    it is FACT that dynamics events just keep on repeating with minimal lasting effect on the game world

    it is FACT that you can not rent out shops or lease a forge after you capture a castle

     

    im sorry but provided FACTS. its not my fault almost everyone here is so blinded by fanboyism.



    And it is your OPINION that these FACTS are unappealing.

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  • bishboshbishbosh Member Posts: 388
    Originally posted by gestalt11

    Um where do people get this stuff?  If I look closely I will fool myself into seeing something that is patently false?

     

    Erm I actually played the game avoid arrows without using the dodge mechanic.  Melee has no need of any targets at all.  Check your facts before you try to rip something up.  And certainly make sure you get stuff right before you try to tell people that they have it wrong.

     

    I mean seriously why are people coming out of the woodwork and saying things that are demonstrably false?  Even if some of the "guided" projectiles can be avoided.   The only thing I have seen that always hit are beams like certain channeled lightning effects.

     

    Anyway this is getting really sad. 

    "melee has no need of any targets at all"

    "erm i actuall played the game avoid arrows without using the dodge mechanic"

    most themepark mmorpgs have ground target attacks that can also be avoided similarly. gw2 has a dodge button to top it off. im not saying its bad, im just saying it isnt as awesome has people are making it out to be. just have a look at the thread title.

  • KidonKidon Member UncommonPosts: 399

    Can´t play anything else, GW2 is just to good, wich i didnt play the beta ffs :S

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