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05.04.11
1. self medicating yourself is a choice and exercise in self control. If you enjoy it alot, refer can replace many activities deemed desirable in a working class society.
2. As high grade can be quite expensive you may find you have to sell to others to asuage your costs. And that from a legal pov can get you 10 to 30 years in prison (trafficing.)
3. 'pot-heads' tend to be care free and more concerened with the delusional reality of getting high instead of conforming to society/ making a buck and following rules. Since good-pay employment now tend to do drug screening you must face alot of opportunities will be closed if you indulge.
4. gateway, well from various pleasure experiments, especially where it is self administred, primates do alot of what they enjoy untill tolerance kicks in... instead of getting high over the weekend, less than 5 joints a day to working what-ever job/ steal whatever you can get to be able to maintain a stash, you may avoid the adicted label if you think you can still function in society.
5. There are more productive adictions if you want to get ahead... studying and making good grades in the toughest classes in high school / college... excelling in varsity sports / olympics/ profesional sports... those activities you will find do not mix well with drugs. Or more realistically those activities are 'more respectful' by those that achieve while staying clean.
6. US society is totally built around drugs... sex, tobacco, alcohol, perscribed medication, health conscious diet (vitamine enhanced, or low-fat or low-carb...ect) everything is built around those in power legislating to exercise controll/ profit over those subject to obedience. The more in control you are of your needs the less control others will have over you.
7. the problem with reefer is 10 to 20 years can go by quick and you will have to face how much $ and time you could have put to a better use. Do you want to have fun while young and not care what might have been... or are you willing to sacrifice and invest effort in your potential and be able to enjoy your retiremend, secure in acomplishments and financial security.
If it was legalized that would mean it could be government regulated and therefore subject to taxation. Way to bring down the decifit.
...I stand by my way of thinking.
Smoking Weed = Hippies
Hippies = My boot in their face
Pi-- you just cant come here bostering that Weed isn't dangerous and has no harmfull effects on the body.
Shouting out that we are shallow doesn't make your point any more true or false but it does blemish your name. We are all willing to hear your point of view on the matter but next time bring some evidence with your "objective studies" maybe and citation? something..
We aren't 12 year olds and we dont believe everything we hear.. so THANK you very much, Come again.
yes we know weed has countless uses.. BUT the MOST USED form of weed is an illegal drug that is smoked.. that at the very least is harmful BECAUSE of the smoke.
(this next paragraph may or maynot represent my personal views
Weed is considered a gateway drug because it is a milder drug with less harsh side effects. And doing one drug can justify doing another.. "well I've done pot... i wonder how this drug is gonna make me feel" and you just try it and see... that is why people portray weed as a gateway drug... Because people dont just jump from doing nothing going to sunday school to crack and coke.... there are steps and whether you want to believe it or not Weed CAN be one of those steps (not that it has to be or is) this is because of the very fact that it is so easy to get into since it is so mild....
What's your Wu Name?
Donovan --> Wu Name = Violent Knight
Methane47 --> Wu Name = Thunderous Leader
"Some people call me the walking plank, 'cuz any where you go... Death is right behind you.."
<i>ME<i>
Why can I not come bostering? I am right. If you(the entity) thinks that weed is the next worst thing after the hydrogen bomb, without knowing anything about it, I think 'shallow' applies to you. Read some of lyonman24's posts about weed myths. I really don't need to bring evidence on something that is common knowledge.
Weed can be eaten, and there is almost no toxins in weed, compared to the amounts in tobacco. Weed is as harmless as wild flowers in that matter.
The worst part is this "gateway drug" thing. It doesn't make any sense at all. Weed doesn't chemically make you crave heroin or any other sort of drugs. The problem is in society. Because when weed is illegal, you will have to consult people who are criminals, and when they are already criminals, they might as well sell you hard drugs. Illegalizing weed, if anything, only promotes this "gateway drug" theory. Perhaps if the government actually made a clear distinction between hard and soft drugs, people would actually take the warnings seriously. Instead, people go: "Hmm, weed isn't so bad, despite what the government says, I might as well go and get some heroin too".
-Pi
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"Philosophy is a study that lets us be unhappy more intelligently"
-Anon
Lol Again I say... Stating that you are right ("I am right") does not prove that you indeed ARE right... It just shows that you deeply believe so. Because in your effort to believe that every one is soo close minded about weed.. You in turn have become close minded towards people that do not support weed despite their reasons...
I(the entity) do not think that weed is comparable to the hydrogen bomb.. but i do think weed is much worse then vitamin C. But this doesn't mean that Vitamin C isn't bad for you if you use too much. All i ask of you is that you back up your opinions with cites of your "sources". Since you state that [b]ALLL[] professionals empirically found that weed is harmless ...... i think you have quite abit of citing to do.
About your idea about the Gateway drug.. you are totally right.. It is a social construct... but we as humans are social beings therefore being subject to social stimuli. Weed does not chemically force someone to try other drugs but people still say "Hmm, weed isn't so bad, despite what the government says, I might as well go and get some heroin too". Hence weed used inappropriately is a social contructed "Gateway Drug"
What's your Wu Name?
Donovan --> Wu Name = Violent Knight
Methane47 --> Wu Name = Thunderous Leader
"Some people call me the walking plank, 'cuz any where you go... Death is right behind you.."
<i>ME<i>
LOL Here ya go Metalfoxus. Everyone DON'T TAKE THIS TOO SERIOUSLY!
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You have completely misunderstood my posts. I have no problems with people who don't "support weed" for valid reasons, but I do have a problem with people who doesn't "support weed", when they don't know anything about it. Even more so do I hate it when they reject it on others behalf. You don't like weed? Fine, don't smoke it - but why must those who do like it, have to suffer from it? Because of ignorance and prejudice.
I didn't say that all studies found weed to be harmless. I said, all objective studies. You would be surprised at the amount of "professionals" who make flawed analysis, experiments and statistics, for the sole purpose of justifying the law. Show me an objective analysis, that concludes that weed is directly harmful, and I will be happy to show you my time machine.
People won't say that. Proof? Just look at Holland and Switzerland.
-Pi
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"Philosophy is a study that lets us be unhappy more intelligently"
-Anon
I think we have alittle bit of Grass is greener on the other side syndrome... Just because it works in Holland and Prague doesn't mean it will work in the U.S.
Ofcourse it MIGHT work.. but we dont know and are we willing to risk it? And WHO is going to risk it. The person that gets Marijuana legalized is going to go under a whole lot of scrutiny from the public... Sure there are alot of people that do mwana but the poeple that dont chances are is alot more...
Fact is that Hollands economic structure is just different than here in the United States... Now here is the contriversial statement... I dont agree with Mwana or any of its uses because the line between Use and Abuse in my eyes is too small... But I do think that the only way to destroy the evils of Mwana is to legalize it so that the Government can Control it.......
BUTTTTTTTTT you cant just go out and legalize it like Holland did... USA has to come up with a plan that will work in steps to institutionalize mwana..... aLTHOUGH i still disagree with mwana on a whole I would much rather mwana be legalized and smoking and alchohol to be banned.
What's your Wu Name?
Donovan --> Wu Name = Violent Knight
Methane47 --> Wu Name = Thunderous Leader
"Some people call me the walking plank, 'cuz any where you go... Death is right behind you.."
<i>ME<i>
When I was younger Weed was much more accessable than alcohol. At the age of 14 I could go to my local dealers house pay 5 bucks(a few days worth of not eating lunch) and he would smoke a joint and give me a joint to take home.
But If I tried to buy alcohol there was no way that would happen and trying to find a guy to buy you beer was just about impossible. But even if they legalized it it would still be hard to regulate cuz Kids can buy weed from someone they knew was 21. But It could cut down on crime, They can tax weed put the money towards funding schools or something like that. Inform the kids about marijuana and hopefully ppl wouldnt sell it to kids.
Bush spends about 50billion dollars a year on the war on drugs, that is just an insane amount of money. And what has it done, put ppl in jail. the jails are crowded with ppl that have MJ related crimes and its costing money to have them there. And the war on drugs is the longest ongoing war and it just don't seem to be doing anything. People will always want to experiment with drugs. There are alot worse drugs than Marijuana.
Ive experimented with alot of them. And came to find out how much worse they are. From the side affects to the long term after effects. Weed really dosent have any bad after effects. Maybe some short term memory loss but nothing thats going to make me forget something importaint, like how to drive a car or that I have to go to the dentist next week.
Maybe legalization might not work in the us but we have to try it to find out and if they don't im just going to move to amsterdam then.
And the irony is, he could probably make much more than that every year by taxing the hell out of leagalised Marijuana sales...
(which is the reason Tabacco and Alcohol will NEVER be illegalised
I am not going to post here again since I find it humorous to watch stoners try to protect their drug of choice, but since lyonman must be anal about my post, I said other opiods, since opiods are prescription, but also abused. No crap MJ is not an opiod.
"Whoever controls the media controls the mind..-'Jim Morrison"
"When decorum is repression, the only dignity free men have is to speak out." ~Abbie Hoffman
quit marijuana. before you get addicted and do more dangerous drugs like heroin. if you can't lay off weed, then use a sub like caffinee and slowly decline on the amount till your drug free.
Caffine is addictive. I used to be addicted to it. Drinking close to a 12 pack of pepsi a day trying to stay up to play FFXI. Then I quit playing FFXI I didnt have any money to pay for it. I tried to quit drinking as much pop and I could barely stay awake with out it. So I drank it all the time. Weed wasnt that hard to quit for the times I had to quit. Like being on probation or Staying clean to take a drug test for a job.
Weed has a Mental addiction Its just fun to be high., It dont have a physical addiction. like caffene or many of the other harder drugs. Like meth In my experience with it. WHen i would come down my body ached and ofcourse you feel tired but as soon as you smoke it or snort it the pain goes away. Weed really dosnt have a bad effect when you come down off of it.
Weed dosen't make you want to do other drugs, It was my choice to try other drugs. I enjoy smoking it here and there. But if you dont smoke it I dont have a problem with it our country is based on freedom, people can have the choice to do it or not. People should be respective of that and not look down on a person because there choices.
Change my mind so much I can't even trust it
My mind change me so much I can't even trust myself
Let's get one thing straight since this is ticking me off.
Weed cannot kill you on its own. Tobbaco and drinking are indeed worse when it comes to the drugs themselves. What affects you most is the effects on the mind. Those effects can cause car crashes, depressive states, and judgments that could indeed get you killed.
"Whoever controls the media controls the mind..-'Jim Morrison"
"When decorum is repression, the only dignity free men have is to speak out." ~Abbie Hoffman
Hmmm wow your smart. You see weed leds to bad shit. You get go crazy trying to buy it. It's not cheap neither. And you don't know what your doing. That can make you injure yourself also.
Change my mind so much I can't even trust it
My mind change me so much I can't even trust myself
Keep it illegal. Even though it is able to help some, hundreds of thousands will abuse the drug. In the future, if the drug became legal, I bet kids in 7/10 households will either have tried, using, or has been exposed to people using Marijuana.
I'm drug free, and I can beat you down hommie
-In memory of Laura "Taera" Genender. Passed away on Aug/13/08-
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RISING DRAGOON ~AION US ONLINE LEGION for Elyos
So why is booze and cigs legal when they are way more harmful. I don't see you guys up in arms about these two drugs. Booze will destroy thousands of more lives and familys than marijuania will ever do. It's absolutely hypocrtical to say weed should be illegal and not say booze and cigs should be.
And no, weed doesn't kill anybody. Whoever told it does was probably high at the time.
They may be legal becuase it's too late to ban them. It's just a guess though. Maybe if it was banned now, it would equal some chaos.
For the rest of it, im not really conserned. I don't do drugs not drink anyway. Never will. Marijuana shouldn't be legal though.
-In memory of Laura "Taera" Genender. Passed away on Aug/13/08-
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RISING DRAGOON ~AION US ONLINE LEGION for Elyos
I bet already kids in 7 out of 10 households have already been exposed or tried it. My cousin is 12 and hes smoked it. But hey yeah people will always abuse weed but what bad comes of it nothing. People abuse alcohol everyday and people die because of alcohol. People get raped, beaten, killed by drunk drivers, because they decided to drink to much one time, or abuse it everyday. Alocohol is a very bad substance in the wrong hands. It has ruined my uncles life for the past 20 years, He smokes weed every so often but its the alcohol that almost killed him.
Hes going to jail for drunk driving maybe than can help him. And about respecting your body I why? Yes I might live to see 80 or more If I never do anything to harm my body. But when you can barely get around at that age whats the worth. Id rather smoke pot here and there Be happy with my life and if I die at an earlyier age then oh well at least I dont regret not doing something when im older. What do you not think that sitting on this computer isnt going to effect your health. Im sure it is in some way and another.
Before I started smoking, I already had a philosophy of not giving a rats ass on life. The I found this phenominal substance that made existance slightly more bareable. I've made many friends that I can identify with better than anyone else. I'm not a heavy smoker, don't get me wrong, once or twice a week at the most. Should it be legal? Well, either make alcohol illegal, or legalize marijuana. I think it's BS that one is legal and the other is not. Either way, we'll keep on doing it. As far as it being a gateway drug, I started doing coke not too long after Mary Jane, this was back in 6th grade, 3-4 years ago now. I did heroine once, but was so messed up I couldn't enjoy it and haven't done it since. The summer before 6th grade I started, but when the friend that got me started on it all overdosed and died, I took a break. I started a couple months later, but slowed down a bunch from where I was during the summer.
I should point out that I hate the stereotypes put on people that smoke, even those like me that do it occasionally. When people find out that I smoke, they automatically start to look down on me, applying all the stereotypes fed to them by all these damned commercials and TV shows.
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