Originally posted by Four0Six Originally posted by whisperwyndOriginally posted by Four0SixMy issue is with the govt. placing the same value on e-sports as NBA, NFL, MLS, FIFA, World Cup Rugby, yadda yadda.
What issue? It's to their benefit financially. Do you think they care who uses which definition or social comparison? The visa players can now ask for is for groups, making the transition into the US for these events easier...at a slightly higher price.What issue: Pro-gaming =/= sports...thought I had been clear on my position.
Did you just use a "pay to win" argument concerning obtaining visas? US government as a cash shop?
Maybe you should support your point of view with more than just, "I said so".
There are several definitions of sports, and playing video games can fall under nearly all of those definitions.
* It requires the physical participation of the participants. * It requires some minimal level of physical skill to be competitive. * It generally requires dexterity and hand eye coordination to be competitive. * Events have rules, and have judges to determine winners.
The only definition that would prevent e-Sports from being a Sport is requiring Athleticism, but that isn't a universal or even a common requirement.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
Lol.. this thread... I am beginning to suspect most of the people who say "lol it ain't a sport" couldn't even hack it as a semi-pro in those games... and the rest are probably ...well something akin to this guy:
1.) Mashing Keys isn't physical activity when the term is taken in context and thus this stuff isn't a sport, they're games that fat nerdy kids or scrawny geeky kids attache too much important too.
2.) I am too lazy to post a pic, but I am starting to believe the people that want this to be a sport look like Erkel if I were going to apply your rubric.
There is no such thing as an esport because MASHING KEYS ISN"T PHYSICAL ACTIVITY OR YOUr doctor would tell you it's good cardio, jesus...........
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Under MMORPGs Rull of Conduct, wouldn't this topic fall under the politics section? Does this mean that they broke there own rule?
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Under MMORPGs Rull of Conduct, wouldn't this topic fall under the politics section? Does this mean that they broke there own rule?
You view sports as a religion or politics? Because the US government stating it now considers one type of e-sports as a sport does not constitute a breach of that rule as it is not relating to politics, merely broadening the scope of existing laws to encompass emerging forms of sports.
Originally posted by Four0SixMy issue is with the govt. placing the same value on e-sports as NBA, NFL, MLS, FIFA, World Cup Rugby, yadda yadda.
What issue? It's to their benefit financially. Do you think they care who uses which definition or social comparison? The visa players can now ask for is for groups, making the transition into the US for these events easier...at a slightly higher price.
What issue: Pro-gaming =/= sports...thought I had been clear on my position.
Did you just use a "pay to win" argument concerning obtaining visas? US government as a cash shop?
Maybe you should support your point of view with more than just, "I said so".
There are several definitions of sports, and playing video games can fall under nearly all of those definitions.
* It requires the physical participation of the participants. * It requires some minimal level of physical skill to be competitive. * It generally requires dexterity and hand eye coordination to be competitive. * Events have rules, and have judges to determine winners.
The only definition that would prevent e-Sports from being a Sport is requiring Athleticism, but that isn't a universal or even a common requirement.
As another poster is pointing out, A and For are different things.
As in "I chase women for sport". and "I play a sport, rugby."
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Under MMORPGs Rull of Conduct, wouldn't this topic fall under the politics section? Does this mean that they broke there own rule?
You view sports as a religion or politics? Because the US government stating it now considers one type of e-sports as a sport does not constitute a breach of that rule as it is not relating to politics, merely broadening the scope of existing laws to encompass emerging forms of sports.
The sports aren't politics, but when you converse about the government's role in said sports that is politics.
Originally posted by Four0SixMy issue is with the govt. placing the same value on e-sports as NBA, NFL, MLS, FIFA, World Cup Rugby, yadda yadda.
What issue? It's to their benefit financially. Do you think they care who uses which definition or social comparison? The visa players can now ask for is for groups, making the transition into the US for these events easier...at a slightly higher price.
What issue: Pro-gaming =/= sports...thought I had been clear on my position.
Did you just use a "pay to win" argument concerning obtaining visas? US government as a cash shop?
Maybe you should support your point of view with more than just, "I said so".
There are several definitions of sports, and playing video games can fall under nearly all of those definitions.
* It requires the physical participation of the participants. * It requires some minimal level of physical skill to be competitive. * It generally requires dexterity and hand eye coordination to be competitive. * Events have rules, and have judges to determine winners.
The only definition that would prevent e-Sports from being a Sport is requiring Athleticism, but that isn't a universal or even a common requirement.
As another poster is pointing out, A and For are different things.
As in "I chase women for sport". and "I play the sport rugby."
I LOVES me some semantics.
Well then you and said poster should try doing a Starcraft 2 pro-level training regiment from now until lets say the winter Dreamhack and see how well you'll be playing Starcraft 2 for sport afterwards .
Originally posted by Four0SixMy issue is with the govt. placing the same value on e-sports as NBA, NFL, MLS, FIFA, World Cup Rugby, yadda yadda.
What issue? It's to their benefit financially. Do you think they care who uses which definition or social comparison? The visa players can now ask for is for groups, making the transition into the US for these events easier...at a slightly higher price.
What issue: Pro-gaming =/= sports...thought I had been clear on my position.
Did you just use a "pay to win" argument concerning obtaining visas? US government as a cash shop?
Maybe you should support your point of view with more than just, "I said so".
There are several definitions of sports, and playing video games can fall under nearly all of those definitions.
* It requires the physical participation of the participants. * It requires some minimal level of physical skill to be competitive. * It generally requires dexterity and hand eye coordination to be competitive. * Events have rules, and have judges to determine winners.
The only definition that would prevent e-Sports from being a Sport is requiring Athleticism, but that isn't a universal or even a common requirement.
As another poster is pointing out, A and For are different things.
As in "I chase women for sport". and "I play the sport rugby."
I LOVES me some semantics.
Well then you and said poster should try doing a Starcraft 2 pro-level training regiment from now until lets say the winter Dreamhack and see how well you'll be playing Starcraft 2 for sport afterwards .
Hard does not a sport make, if you want you can try to do the financial statements for the non-profit mental health organization my wife accounts for. I guarantee that is hard, but she doesn't think of it as sport.
Pretty much all of the modern sports started out as little more then past-time activities. (or in the case of Nascar outrunning the police.) So i am glad to see that e-sport is moving in to the light as a "real" sport. This will enable some serious development of the sport and that can only be a good thing.
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Under MMORPGs Rull of Conduct, wouldn't this topic fall under the politics section? Does this mean that they broke there own rule?
You view sports as a religion or politics? Because the US government stating it now considers one type of e-sports as a sport does not constitute a breach of that rule as it is not relating to politics, merely broadening the scope of existing laws to encompass emerging forms of sports.
The sports aren't politics, but when you converse about the government's role in said sports that is politics.
My opinion is that if poker and chess are sports then you damn well bet competitive gaming is too. Much like MMO's what is a sport has long been skewed into including just about any event, eventually we will see X-Games for watching sitcoms.
When I first saw Idiocracy I laughed but now I view it as some might view the writings of Nostradamus.
Because flying a Minmatar ship is like going down a flight of stairs on an office chair while firing an Uzi.
Pretty much all of the modern sports started out as little more then past-time activities. (or in the case of Nascar outrunning the police.) So i am glad to see that e-sport is moving in to the light as a "real" sport. This will enable some serious development of the sport and that can only be a good thing.
My opinion is that if poker and chess are sports then you damn well bet competitive gaming is too. Much like MMO's what is a sport has long been skewed into including just about any event, eventually we will see X-Games for watching sitcoms.
When I first saw Idiocracy I laughed but now I view it as some might view the writings of Nostradamus.
+1
Although I think it is a bigger problem of "labels". The same labels that give the top 10 participants a trophy in a 10 participant event.
Originally posted by Four0SixMy issue is with the govt. placing the same value on e-sports as NBA, NFL, MLS, FIFA, World Cup Rugby, yadda yadda.
What issue? It's to their benefit financially. Do you think they care who uses which definition or social comparison? The visa players can now ask for is for groups, making the transition into the US for these events easier...at a slightly higher price.
What issue: Pro-gaming =/= sports...thought I had been clear on my position.
Did you just use a "pay to win" argument concerning obtaining visas? US government as a cash shop?
Maybe you should support your point of view with more than just, "I said so".
There are several definitions of sports, and playing video games can fall under nearly all of those definitions.
* It requires the physical participation of the participants. * It requires some minimal level of physical skill to be competitive. * It generally requires dexterity and hand eye coordination to be competitive. * Events have rules, and have judges to determine winners.
The only definition that would prevent e-Sports from being a Sport is requiring Athleticism, but that isn't a universal or even a common requirement.
As another poster is pointing out, A and For are different things.
As in "I chase women for sport". and "I play the sport rugby."
I LOVES me some semantics.
Well then you and said poster should try doing a Starcraft 2 pro-level training regiment from now until lets say the winter Dreamhack and see how well you'll be playing Starcraft 2 for sport afterwards .
Hard does not a sport make, if you want you can try to do the financial statements for the non-profit mental health organization my wife accounts for. I guarantee that is hard, but she doesn't think of it as sport.
If your insinuating that i have never had marathon gaming runs your mistaking sir. Startcraft 2 withstanding. It still does not make it a "sport"
You can argue till a Pro gamer trains till the winter Dreamhack or whatever the hell you said. It will not change anything.
My opinion is that if poker and chess are sports then you damn well bet competitive gaming is too. Much like MMO's what is a sport has long been skewed into including just about any event, eventually we will see X-Games for watching sitcoms.
When I first saw Idiocracy I laughed but now I view it as some might view the writings of Nostradamus.
Poker and chess are not classed as sports. poker is gambling and chess is a board game.
Originally posted by Four0SixMy issue is with the govt. placing the same value on e-sports as NBA, NFL, MLS, FIFA, World Cup Rugby, yadda yadda.
What issue? It's to their benefit financially. Do you think they care who uses which definition or social comparison? The visa players can now ask for is for groups, making the transition into the US for these events easier...at a slightly higher price.
What issue: Pro-gaming =/= sports...thought I had been clear on my position.
Did you just use a "pay to win" argument concerning obtaining visas? US government as a cash shop?
Maybe you should support your point of view with more than just, "I said so".
There are several definitions of sports, and playing video games can fall under nearly all of those definitions.
* It requires the physical participation of the participants. * It requires some minimal level of physical skill to be competitive. * It generally requires dexterity and hand eye coordination to be competitive. * Events have rules, and have judges to determine winners.
The only definition that would prevent e-Sports from being a Sport is requiring Athleticism, but that isn't a universal or even a common requirement.
As another poster is pointing out, A and For are different things.
As in "I chase women for sport". and "I play the sport rugby."
I LOVES me some semantics.
Well then you and said poster should try doing a Starcraft 2 pro-level training regiment from now until lets say the winter Dreamhack and see how well you'll be playing Starcraft 2 for sport afterwards .
Hard does not a sport make, if you want you can try to do the financial statements for the non-profit mental health organization my wife accounts for. I guarantee that is hard, but she doesn't think of it as sport.
Let me know when she has to stop doing it because it's causing health issues (I used to be a Starcraft 1 semi-pro and I burned out my hand so yeah tell me again how you could play a game "for sport" under those conditions).
Also the dimwitted perception that this has anything to do with politics is amusing... if this decision was politically motivated (IE $$$) it might've stood some ground but seeing as how this is the government just stating "we now treat x as sportsmen" you'll excuse me if I don't see the political angle (if new laws were enacted yes, if the supreme court was involved, yes, if the government just says "yo guys, you know those people you always considered jokes? well now they'll be laughing back too", no)
*sigh* all these people sitting under the misconception that "sport" entails physical fitness. a sport is something done competitively for fun or for gain. being physically fit is irrelevant unless the activity in question calls for it. also, a professional gamer uses a skill set as well as different part of their body as compared to a football star, rider, or something else. lets pit a pro NFL star against a starcraft 2 player, i can guarentee you the NFL star (unless also simaltaniously extremely skilled (note: skill) at thinking and outwitting an opponent and having also mastered the game, will be staring at his screen getting his ass handed to him. i can also guarentee you that the starcraft 2 player probably wouldnt score a single point on the field against the NFL player and probably walk away in a lot of pain. both players are equally skilled, just in different arena's. those who choose to write pro gamers off are just ignorant and primitive in their thinking.
Mental fortitude, strategic cunning, unparalleled reaction time and often team work seems like it could be a sport to me. I'd say the same with Chess and anything that really makes you think. It differs depending on the game, but the only real difference is the money people receive for the job at hand.
Both have to be born with a sort of natural talent (as each sport has different requirements such as reaction time and the like) and both have to spend twelve plus hours perfecting their craft. One just has the benefit of being a healthier lifestyle than the other if not tempered with exercise.
Both attract crowds who can have insane fandom and who gather in large crowds for events and or something being broadcast on the internet. On the professional level this very much is a sport, even if it has to be separated with an "e" before it's namesake.
Sports do not require physical fitness at all; it's about the competitive nature of the human spirit. The same goes for bowling and other simple things; some of their professionals are heavy, yet it is a competitive sport.
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Also, I thoroughly enjoy debates and have accounts on over a dozen sites for this. If you wish to engage in such, please put effort in a post and provide sources -- I will then do the same with what I already wrote (if I didn't) as well as with my responses to your own. Expanding my information on a subject makes my stance either change or strengthen the next time I speak of it or write a thesis. Allow me to thank you sincerely for your time.
As another poster is pointing out, A and For are different things.
As in "I chase women for sport". and "I play a sport, rugby."
I LOVES me some semantics.
Unfortunately, that is all your argument is, fighting over semantics. That and your opinion of what constitutes a 'sport' and whether the government is entitled to group esport with sports like the NFL, NBL etc. No problem here with either. In this I am being a good 'sport'.
Maybe someone will start a petition and try to reverse this decision, but considering how benign it is, I don't see any politic backlash.
Originally posted by Four0SixMy issue is with the govt. placing the same value on e-sports as NBA, NFL, MLS, FIFA, World Cup Rugby, yadda yadda.
What issue? It's to their benefit financially. Do you think they care who uses which definition or social comparison? The visa players can now ask for is for groups, making the transition into the US for these events easier...at a slightly higher price.
What issue: Pro-gaming =/= sports...thought I had been clear on my position.
Did you just use a "pay to win" argument concerning obtaining visas? US government as a cash shop?
Maybe you should support your point of view with more than just, "I said so".
There are several definitions of sports, and playing video games can fall under nearly all of those definitions.
* It requires the physical participation of the participants. * It requires some minimal level of physical skill to be competitive. * It generally requires dexterity and hand eye coordination to be competitive. * Events have rules, and have judges to determine winners.
The only definition that would prevent e-Sports from being a Sport is requiring Athleticism, but that isn't a universal or even a common requirement.
As another poster is pointing out, A and For are different things.
As in "I chase women for sport". and "I play the sport rugby."
I LOVES me some semantics.
Well then you and said poster should try doing a Starcraft 2 pro-level training regiment from now until lets say the winter Dreamhack and see how well you'll be playing Starcraft 2 for sport afterwards .
Hard does not a sport make, if you want you can try to do the financial statements for the non-profit mental health organization my wife accounts for. I guarantee that is hard, but she doesn't think of it as sport.
If your insinuating that i have never had marathon gaming runs your mistaking sir. Startcraft 2 withstanding. It still does not make it a "sport"
You can argue till a Pro gamer trains till the winter Dreamhack or whatever the hell you said. It will not change anything.
e-sports are NOT SPORTS. Sorry.
Marathon gaming session? lol... try having a special diet, training (not gaming, training) for 6-12 hours a day with a skilled team of players, spend months doing nothing else but this (school may fit in it may not depends to what level you're aiming at).
Now kindly remove foot from mouth and deal with reality, your own government said it's a sport and quite a few other countries consider them sports.
As another poster is pointing out, A and For are different things.
As in "I chase women for sport". and "I play a sport, rugby."
I LOVES me some semantics.
Unfortunately, that is all your argument is, fighting over semantics. That and your opinion of what constitutes a 'sport' and whether the government is entitled to group esport with sports like the NFL, NBL etc. No problem here with either. In this I am being a good 'sport'.
Maybe someone will start a petition and try to reverse this decision, but considering how benign it is, I don't see any politic backlash.
Originally posted by Four0SixMy issue is with the govt. placing the same value on e-sports as NBA, NFL, MLS, FIFA, World Cup Rugby, yadda yadda.
What issue? It's to their benefit financially. Do you think they care who uses which definition or social comparison? The visa players can now ask for is for groups, making the transition into the US for these events easier...at a slightly higher price.
What issue: Pro-gaming =/= sports...thought I had been clear on my position.
Did you just use a "pay to win" argument concerning obtaining visas? US government as a cash shop?
Maybe you should support your point of view with more than just, "I said so".
There are several definitions of sports, and playing video games can fall under nearly all of those definitions.
* It requires the physical participation of the participants. * It requires some minimal level of physical skill to be competitive. * It generally requires dexterity and hand eye coordination to be competitive. * Events have rules, and have judges to determine winners.
The only definition that would prevent e-Sports from being a Sport is requiring Athleticism, but that isn't a universal or even a common requirement.
As another poster is pointing out, A and For are different things.
As in "I chase women for sport". and "I play the sport rugby."
I LOVES me some semantics.
Well then you and said poster should try doing a Starcraft 2 pro-level training regiment from now until lets say the winter Dreamhack and see how well you'll be playing Starcraft 2 for sport afterwards .
Hard does not a sport make, if you want you can try to do the financial statements for the non-profit mental health organization my wife accounts for. I guarantee that is hard, but she doesn't think of it as sport.
Let me know when she has to stop doing it because it's causing health issues (I used to be a Starcraft 1 semi-pro and I burned out my hand so yeah tell me again how you could play a game "for sport" under those conditions).
Also the dimwitted perception that this has anything to do with politics is amusing... if this decision was politically motivated (IE $$$) it might've stood some ground but seeing as how this is the government just stating "we now treat x as sportsmen" you'll excuse me if I don't see the political angle (if new laws were enacted yes, if the supreme court was involved, yes, if the government just says "yo guys, you know those people you always considered jokes? well now they'll be laughing back too", no)
You have the same injury many of the data entry clerks my wife manages. Medical billing is sport too?
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What issue: Pro-gaming =/= sports...thought I had been clear on my position.
Did you just use a "pay to win" argument concerning obtaining visas? US government as a cash shop?
Maybe you should support your point of view with more than just, "I said so".
There are several definitions of sports, and playing video games can fall under nearly all of those definitions.
* It requires the physical participation of the participants.
* It requires some minimal level of physical skill to be competitive.
* It generally requires dexterity and hand eye coordination to be competitive.
* Events have rules, and have judges to determine winners.
The only definition that would prevent e-Sports from being a Sport is requiring Athleticism, but that isn't a universal or even a common requirement.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
1.) Mashing Keys isn't physical activity when the term is taken in context and thus this stuff isn't a sport, they're games that fat nerdy kids or scrawny geeky kids attache too much important too.
2.) I am too lazy to post a pic, but I am starting to believe the people that want this to be a sport look like Erkel if I were going to apply your rubric.
There is no such thing as an esport because MASHING KEYS ISN"T PHYSICAL ACTIVITY OR YOUr doctor would tell you it's good cardio, jesus...........
I would like to just point this out..
Religion and Politics
You view sports as a religion or politics? Because the US government stating it now considers one type of e-sports as a sport does not constitute a breach of that rule as it is not relating to politics, merely broadening the scope of existing laws to encompass emerging forms of sports.
As another poster is pointing out, A and For are different things.
As in "I chase women for sport". and "I play a sport, rugby."
I LOVES me some semantics.
The sports aren't politics, but when you converse about the government's role in said sports that is politics.
Well then you and said poster should try doing a Starcraft 2 pro-level training regiment from now until lets say the winter Dreamhack and see how well you'll be playing Starcraft 2 for sport afterwards
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Hard does not a sport make, if you want you can try to do the financial statements for the non-profit mental health organization my wife accounts for. I guarantee that is hard, but she doesn't think of it as sport.
Pretty much all of the modern sports started out as little more then past-time activities. (or in the case of Nascar outrunning the police.) So i am glad to see that e-sport is moving in to the light as a "real" sport. This will enable some serious development of the sport and that can only be a good thing.
I give this two thumbs up.
This have been a good conversation
Glad someone gets it.
My opinion is that if poker and chess are sports then you damn well bet competitive gaming is too. Much like MMO's what is a sport has long been skewed into including just about any event, eventually we will see X-Games for watching sitcoms.
When I first saw Idiocracy I laughed but now I view it as some might view the writings of Nostradamus.
Because flying a Minmatar ship is like going down a flight of stairs on an office chair while firing an Uzi.
Good work with the quotes around real.
The sarcasm is strong with you.
+1
Although I think it is a bigger problem of "labels". The same labels that give the top 10 participants a trophy in a 10 participant event.
If your insinuating that i have never had marathon gaming runs your mistaking sir. Startcraft 2 withstanding. It still does not make it a "sport"
You can argue till a Pro gamer trains till the winter Dreamhack or whatever the hell you said. It will not change anything.
e-sports are NOT SPORTS. Sorry.
Poker and chess are not classed as sports. poker is gambling and chess is a board game.
Let me know when she has to stop doing it because it's causing health issues (I used to be a Starcraft 1 semi-pro and I burned out my hand so yeah tell me again how you could play a game "for sport" under those conditions).
Also the dimwitted perception that this has anything to do with politics is amusing... if this decision was politically motivated (IE $$$) it might've stood some ground but seeing as how this is the government just stating "we now treat x as sportsmen" you'll excuse me if I don't see the political angle (if new laws were enacted yes, if the supreme court was involved, yes, if the government just says "yo guys, you know those people you always considered jokes? well now they'll be laughing back too", no)
Mental fortitude, strategic cunning, unparalleled reaction time and often team work seems like it could be a sport to me. I'd say the same with Chess and anything that really makes you think. It differs depending on the game, but the only real difference is the money people receive for the job at hand.
Both have to be born with a sort of natural talent (as each sport has different requirements such as reaction time and the like) and both have to spend twelve plus hours perfecting their craft. One just has the benefit of being a healthier lifestyle than the other if not tempered with exercise.
Both attract crowds who can have insane fandom and who gather in large crowds for events and or something being broadcast on the internet. On the professional level this very much is a sport, even if it has to be separated with an "e" before it's namesake.
Sports do not require physical fitness at all; it's about the competitive nature of the human spirit. The same goes for bowling and other simple things; some of their professionals are heavy, yet it is a competitive sport.
Unfortunately, that is all your argument is, fighting over semantics. That and your opinion of what constitutes a 'sport' and whether the government is entitled to group esport with sports like the NFL, NBL etc. No problem here with either. In this I am being a good 'sport'.
Maybe someone will start a petition and try to reverse this decision, but considering how benign it is, I don't see any politic backlash.
Marathon gaming session? lol... try having a special diet, training (not gaming, training) for 6-12 hours a day with a skilled team of players, spend months doing nothing else but this (school may fit in it may not depends to what level you're aiming at).
Now kindly remove foot from mouth and deal with reality, your own government said it's a sport and quite a few other countries consider them sports.
If chess, darts, poker, snooker and pool to name a few are concidered sports, wich they are then gaming is a sport as well.
Its just a shame that the US goverment decided to show some interest in it.
For obvious reasons other people already mentioned.
Semantics is the MEANING OF WORDS, not opinion.
You have the same injury many of the data entry clerks my wife manages. Medical billing is sport too?
Toss me another will ya, I can do this all day.
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