Originally posted by AG-Vuk There are two very significant issues that weight against this game. 1 ) Cryptic 2 ) PWE. I think that pretty well clears it up, and let's you know where I stand on this. Not that anyone cares. except people that make the games. As a consumer, I hold these names in greater contempt then I do Sony's gaming division. That's saying a lot.
Not really, as it still all boils down to the hatred of a game based on the publishers and developers without taking into account the game itself, which means that you hate the game on an ad hominem fallacy, thus rendering your argument for hating the game pretty much null and void.
THAT'S saying a lot.
Not to turn this into a discussion of fault. But your argumentative ad hominem actually would not apply in this instance, because it is based on the presumption that the parties being named have upstanding reputations. In the case of both companies, they do indeed have a documented history of questionable actions and maneuvering, they also have a track record of various mistakes.
Let me put it this way: I am looking for a new car (video game), there are 2 car dealerships in my area, I choose to go to reputable car dealership (gaming developer) in order to purchase my car, as I have distrust for the other one (gaming developer) due to questionable sales ethics.
This is not an irrelevant arguments, it is quite relevant.
Thank you.
Except for the problem of how they got their reputations. People claim that they are bad companies, but their proof is almost always questionable at best and blatantly wrong at worst.
So it is quite irrelevant, and ad hominem is still very much what they are doing.
Disregarding a documented series of bad business practices does not mean they do not exist. Claiming people have irrelevant arguments due to their choice to avoid said companies due to these business practices is either an attempt to antagonize or a complete misunderstanding of the use of ad hominem. Correct me if I am wrong, but did you just learn this saying, and now attempt to use it whenever you can?
I am not disregarding anything, just pointing out that claiming that a game developed/produced by companies is bad because they perceive the company developing/producing the game is bad is a logical fallacy (so yes you are wrong).
Besides, where are these practices documented? Where is the link?
You're assumption is, that based on my criticism of Cryptic/PWE, I've only played one game. Which, you would be so very mistaken. I played enough of their game to discern patterns and design philosophies, that allowed made me formulate my opinion. They are cut rate game developers. Cryptic/PWE just like Sony or any developer is predisposed to certain tendencies in their designs. It just happens that I've grown to despise them based on my experiences. They've neither, done or changed anything to alter my perception. Sony is now a console game maker, they've moved that way completely. I use them as an example , because they've so moved out of realm of my interest as far as game design goes, that they no longer interest me. So I don't bother with them. What they do and design is strictly for console distribution. Cryptic talks a good game and delivers a poorly produced simplistic game that has at best a months entertainment value, based on concepts, engine carried over from CoH.
No, that's not my assumption at all. You are as far off from the mark as you can possibly be. As for the "patterns" you have viewed, you can barely get the basics of Cryptic games right, so I trust your views of the development of Cryptic games less than I trust Glenn Becks views of, well anything really.
Cryptic talks a good game and delivers on many things. Yes there are things that are wrong with their games, but quite frankly you have yet to ever touch on the things that truly are wrong, or they are hidden among the metric tons of things that you have gotten wrong about what's wrong with Cryptic games.
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No, that's not my assumption at all. You are as far off from the mark as you can possibly be. As for the "patterns" you have viewed, you can barely get the basics of Cryptic games right, so I trust your views of the development of Cryptic games less than I trust Glenn Becks views of, well anything really.
Cryptic talks a good game and delivers on many things. Yes there are things that are wrong with their games, but quite frankly you have yet to ever touch on the things that truly are wrong, or they are hidden among the metric tons of things that you have gotten wrong about what's wrong with Cryptic games.
Since when is Tuesday a direction?