AA is a form of MMORPG turing test, OP like many others did not pass. Not unusual, takes a certain type of player to recognize the more subtle qualities of the game, many will not find them.
Ah, so now the OP isn't intelligent or sophisticated enough to enjoy it?
Bingo
Touches fingertip to nose. It takes a certain mindset, many will not possess this. Not a reflection on their intelligence, but perhaps rather more due to their prior MMO experiences and how the perceive things.
What needs to be on one's resume to qualify?
It's not a matter of what is on your resume, it's matters how your thought processes work, and whether or not you "get" how AA is different despite the seeming theme park on the front end.
I know many people who do in fact get it, not sure why or how they do, but they just do. In my own case I didn't really get it for quite a while, was following the quest markers too closely. But after about 30 levels, and after I got heavily involved with a guild and it's activities, and learned to fight for my life on on both land and sea, it started to click. Certainly took a lot longer than 30 minutes.
And I really didn't get the sandbox part until about my 4th or 5th alt, when I figured out how to level it to 25 not doing any quests to speak of. (in just a few days) Was quite a different experience from my first character that I took to 50 almost entirely questing. I'll likely not be doing that again.
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To make this sand box is simple, remove all the quests :P
Drops you in the middle of the sandbox ready to play...
(and then 75% of the peeps trying it will stop playing) :P
(i still dont mind i am allways having fun)
So why can't a sandbox have quest? I really would like to know. Wouldn't quest in a sandbox just be another toy to play with in the sandbox?
Already have folks asking what to do after level 5 ...seems there is no guide to do the quests
I really feel it is people like th OP who say they want a sandbox and then immediately run to the first quest marker, are the ones that would be totally lost in a real sandbox.
Playing a sandbox means you have to have patience and a willingness to learn. And by that I don't mean asking someone else how to play the game. You have to get out in the world and figure out how things work. You're right Bad Dog, how many times have I seen people crying in Fallen Earth help because they are "lost " in the game. And guess what? 90% of them skip the tutorial!!
If the OP runs and spends 30 mins doing quests and comes to the brilliant conclusion that the game is a themempark, well maybe it ain't for you.
Its like reading one chapter of War and Peace and saying the book is about war.
Or looking at an advertisement of Scarlet Blade and saying it's all tits and ass, right?
Well when it comes to T and A, what else is there, LOL! Why even make a game?
Have you tried AA or did you also fail to get past the linear themepark tutorial?
FFA Nonconsentual Full Loot PvP ...You know you want it!!
If the OP runs and spends 30 mins doing quests and comes to the brilliant conclusion that the game is a themempark, well maybe it ain't for you.
Its like reading one chapter of War and Peace and saying the book is about war.
Or looking at an advertisement of Scarlet Blade and saying it's all tits and ass, right?
To be honest I forced myself (and better half ) to play Wildstar for around 10 hours over a 3 week period and in reality I knew I hated it in the first 15 minutes but was bullheaded enough not to admit it was a flop from the moment I loaded it ,,,so in defense of the OP perhaps 30 minutes of questing in a game that really isn't about questing was enough for him ...heck some people could play a poor cartoon for 300 + hours , so to each their own I guess
I'm sorry I didn't see my answer on first page and did not search at all.
I played for 30 minutes last night, there was nothing remotely sandboxy about the game, in fact maybe most linear MMO I've tried in years. Is this just the tutorial? Is there a way to skip the tutorial? Does the world open up hugely after this? When does that happen? How much of a "sandbox" is the game after that point?
Thanks so much!
Archeage is a sandbox. Just bc you CHOSE to play it like WoW, doesnt mean its not a sandbox. You are obviously of the generation of gamers created by hand-holding mmo's. Ive leveled 3 toons to 50 and i havent killed a single mob since i hit lvl 15 on my first toon. Sandbox doesnt mean you cant play it like a linear WoW kiddie... it just means you dont have to. The fact that you chose to play it for 30 mins, chose to play it just like you would have played WoW, by following breadcrumb quests, then come running here to complain, tells us a lot.
To make this sand box is simple, remove all the quests :P
Drops you in the middle of the sandbox ready to play...
(and then 75% of the peeps trying it will stop playing) :P
(i still dont mind i am allways having fun)
So why can't a sandbox have quest? I really would like to know. Wouldn't quest in a sandbox just be another toy to play with in the sandbox?
Already have folks asking what to do after level 5 ...seems there is no guide to do the quests
I really feel it is people like th OP who say they want a sandbox and then immediately run to the first quest marker, are the ones that would be totally lost in a real sandbox.
Playing a sandbox means you have to have patience and a willingness to learn. And by that I don't mean asking someone else how to play the game. You have to get out in the world and figure out how things work. You're right Bad Dog, how many times have I seen people crying in Fallen Earth help because they are "lost " in the game. And guess what? 90% of them skip the tutorial!!
If the OP runs and spends 30 mins doing quests and comes to the brilliant conclusion that the game is a themempark, well maybe it ain't for you.
Its like reading one chapter of War and Peace and saying the book is about war.
Or looking at an advertisement of Scarlet Blade and saying it's all tits and ass, right?
Well when it comes to T and A, what else is there, LOL! Why even make a game?
Have you tried AA or did you also fail to get past the linear themepark tutorial?
I can't play because they haven't fixed the bug prohibiting me that I reported CBT3.
AA is a form of MMORPG turing test, OP like many others did not pass. Not unusual, takes a certain type of player to recognize the more subtle qualities of the game, many will not find them.
Ah, so now the OP isn't intelligent or sophisticated enough to enjoy it?
Bingo
Touches fingertip to nose. It takes a certain mindset, many will not possess this. Not a reflection on their intelligence, but perhaps rather more due to their prior MMO experiences and how the perceive things.
What needs to be on one's resume to qualify?
It's not a matter of what is on your resume, it's matters how your thought processes work, and whether or not you "get" how AA is different despite the seeming theme park on the front end.
I know many people who do in fact get it, not sure why or how they do, but they just do. In my own case I didn't really get it for quite a while, was following the quest markers too closely. But after about 30 levels, and after I got heavily involved with a guild and it's activities, and learned to fight for my life on on both land and sea, it started to click. Certainly took a lot longer than 30 minutes.
And I really didn't get the sandbox part until about my 4th or 5th alt, when I figured out how to level it to 25 not doing any quests to speak of. (in just a few days) Was quite a different experience from my first character that I took to 50 almost entirely questing. I'll likely not be doing that again.
This argument never works because it's entirely based on opinion. We've seen it over and over with each game. The OP has issues with the game which you disagree on and instead of talking about it, you try to discredit him by saying he lacks the perspective or experience. If you like the game, great for you. But coming around with this pretentious attitude and attacking the OP for not being gifted enough to identify the glory of this game......is really nothing more than a bloated condescending statement.
if you want to discuss the issues the OP is bringing up, then discuss them instead of trying to categorize him into your neat little definition. Right now you it appears you are only interested in discrediting him.
guys guys guys. stop replying to this thread. any player who logs out/uninstalls after 1 minute to 1 day or so or even after a handful of levels isn't going to be a long time player so let them go.
I mean, you either like the game or you don't OR you don't have the patience to find out. so clearly these guys don't have the patience nor desire to explore the game. ok adios, cya later then.
I mean dudes, c'mon, when you like an mmo you play it for years and years and get hooked. we like it, others don't fine good, get out of our game. this game is about crafting, trade runs, harvesting but has a long tutorial to explain it. If these guys can't make it through the tutorial, let them leave, its fine. if they can't last a day, then whats the big deal?
I'd prefer tho, in these posts, if these types of posters would write, what they feel is an awesome game so we know where they are coming from. Not necessarily to say, ok go back to that game dude! but more to say, oh ok, I see what type of game you like and this is not it or it is it etc
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I'm sorry I didn't see my answer on first page and did not search at all.
I played for 30 minutes last night, there was nothing remotely sandboxy about the game, in fact maybe most linear MMO I've tried in years. Is this just the tutorial? Is there a way to skip the tutorial? Does the world open up hugely after this? When does that happen? How much of a "sandbox" is the game after that point?
Thanks so much!
Archeage is a sandbox. Just bc you CHOSE to play it like WoW, doesnt mean its not a sandbox. You are obviously of the generation of gamers created by hand-holding mmo's. Ive leveled 3 toons to 50 and i havent killed a single mob since i hit lvl 15 on my first toon. Sandbox doesnt mean you cant play it like a linear WoW kiddie... it just means you dont have to. The fact that you chose to play it for 30 mins, chose to play it just like you would have played WoW, by following breadcrumb quests, then come running here to complain, tells us a lot.
I'm honestly not seeing him complaining so much as asking for direction from players who can answer questions. Sure the one statement about it being linear is a bit snarky, but perhaps you could answer his questions. I have been reading this thread trying get answers myself, and most of them are not really helping him.
The little bit I did play, they handed the game to me in a format to play like WoW, and that may be the reason he is confused, and so am I.
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Originally posted by Kaneth Originally posted by TheeLordI'm sorry I didn't see my answer on first page and did not search at all.I played for 30 minutes last night, there was nothing remotely sandboxy about the game, in fact maybe most linear MMO I've tried in years. Is this just the tutorial? Is there a way to skip the tutorial? Does the world open up hugely after this? When does that happen? How much of a "sandbox" is the game after that point?Thanks so much!
The first 30 or so levels is very much a typical themepark leveling experience. After level 30, when you are more or less out in the world more, then the game opens up. Trade Runs, Planting Crops, etc. really opens up right around then. The leveling is fast paced enough where 1-30 shouldn't take more than a handful of hours. Hell, I played super casually in CBT 3 (few hours a day and played a few different characters) and got to 18 on two different characters.
few hours a day? ok, someone needs to explain "casual" to me. i play a few a week. he said hes super casual. so what am i?
tbh the way its set up right now you will not experience much of a sandbox within a half an hour and thats just the plain truth
its going to take to time to build up labor and for the most part itll be a linear run till you finish questing . once your able to break off the quest chain and build your house and farm and all sorts of stuff that is when you experience the sand box part of it . other then that i wouldnt look to this game for great questing . if you look past that it all opens up later on . i dont think anybody called AA a sandbox and if they did they are mistaken . repop is a sandbox , perpetuum is a sandbox , AA is sandpark
I'm sorry I didn't see my answer on first page and did not search at all.
I played for 30 minutes last night, there was nothing remotely sandboxy about the game, in fact maybe most linear MMO I've tried in years. Is this just the tutorial? Is there a way to skip the tutorial? Does the world open up hugely after this? When does that happen? How much of a "sandbox" is the game after that point?
Thanks so much!
taking the fact that the think you can experience a in 30 min.. i give you 30 min of play time in a real sandbox before you quit
I'm sorry I didn't see my answer on first page and did not search at all.
I played for 30 minutes last night, there was nothing remotely sandboxy about the game, in fact maybe most linear MMO I've tried in years. Is this just the tutorial? Is there a way to skip the tutorial? Does the world open up hugely after this? When does that happen? How much of a "sandbox" is the game after that point?
Thanks so much!
taking the fact that the think you can experience a in 30 min.. i give you 30 min of play time in a real sandbox before you quit
It might be that way, but in 30 minutes you can figure some things out. If you are told sandbox, and thrown right into the same old themepark at the start, then you question the format of the title. That is what the OP was questioning I believe.
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guys guys guys. stop replying to this thread. any player who logs out/uninstalls after 1 minute to 1 day or so or even after a handful of levels isn't going to be a long time player so let them go.
I mean, you either like the game or you don't OR you don't have the patience to find out. so clearly these guys don't have the patience nor desire to explore the game. ok adios, cya later then.
I mean dudes, c'mon, when you like an mmo you play it for years and years and get hooked. we like it, others don't fine good, get out of our game. this game is about crafting, trade runs, harvesting but has a long tutorial to explain it. If these guys can't make it through the tutorial, let them leave, its fine. if they can't last a day, then whats the big deal?
I'd prefer tho, in these posts, if these types of posters would write, what they feel is an awesome game so we know where they are coming from. Not necessarily to say, ok go back to that game dude! but more to say, oh ok, I see what type of game you like and this is not it or it is it etc
I disagree. There are many games I have done the same thing for.
For some of those games, I even came back as a longtime player because my perception changed.
It doesnt matter if you call something a Sandbox or a Fred Flintstone. What matters is the differentiating factor.
Type A [insert whatever name you want here] = ArcheAge
Type B [insert a different name here] = Darkfall, Wurm Online, Xyson
fighting over the words is silly. The bottom line is that game approach to Type B is very different then it is for Type A and if you cant see it, to be frank you dont deserve to have it explained.
done
Trion is the one saying it is a sandbox.
I know and for all I care they can call it fuck nuts. The word means nothing now that the community and PR firms have destroyed it....despite those efforts it still doesnt change the game.
they should focus more on coding and less on PR
They word hasn't been destroyed. They are potentially doing border line false advertising, but on the other points I agree.
There is no 100% Sandbox MMO in existance - there are many that have sandbox elements.
The entire argument comes down to "Does ArcheAge have enough sandbox elements to be called a sandbox game" - and since there are no *hard guidelines* - it is very subjective.
ArcheAge being called a Sandbox game by Trion and XL - not really shocking to me - its a sandpark to me - but again true 100% sandbox games will never be seen in a form of a MMO.
So I don't see it as false advertising - now if Trion said that Rift was a sandbox game - you would have a point.
But for ArcheAge - the claim of false advertising would be laughed out of the court.
Originally posted by TheeLordI'm sorry I didn't see my answer on first page and did not search at all.I played for 30 minutes last night, there was nothing remotely sandboxy about the game, in fact maybe most linear MMO I've tried in years. Is this just the tutorial? Is there a way to skip the tutorial? Does the world open up hugely after this? When does that happen? How much of a "sandbox" is the game after that point?Thanks so much!
The first 30 or so levels is very much a typical themepark leveling experience. After level 30, when you are more or less out in the world more, then the game opens up. Trade Runs, Planting Crops, etc. really opens up right around then. The leveling is fast paced enough where 1-30 shouldn't take more than a handful of hours. Hell, I played super casually in CBT 3 (few hours a day and played a few different characters) and got to 18 on two different characters.
few hours a day? ok, someone needs to explain "casual" to me. i play a few a week. he said hes super casual. so what am i?
Never look for a label to describe what *you* are.
Now what your playstile might be described as - does it really matter?
Comparing your actions to others often leads to wasted energy that could have been spent otherwise on ones own happiness.
My 2c
Your argument should really be directed at the poster above in yellow since he initiated the dialogue.
Originally posted by Cliff1963 Are you trolling? Invest some more hours playing and then form an opinion. Your answers will probably be answered then. Just to be clear: I don't play AA, but with every other MMO: you can't tell what sort of game it is after 30 minutes of play.
You know...the first minute of UO is open sandbox....all the way...no he wasn't trolling.
This game is not sandbox...go play UO to see what real sandbox gameplay is like.
Originally posted by Tyggs Installed. Logged in. Created Character. Saw naked female characters dancing under disco lights in the opening area. Logged out. Uninstalled.
Sorry that your few minutes were not good ones. In fact it may have been my guild creating alts and practicing some early strategies for our guild housing plans. We had around 40 folks on just hanging around in the starting area under those disco lights waiting for everyone to get there. Good fun and many laughs through the evening. This game has probably generated the most interest out of any game so far. My guild has been around for 5 years and it is exciting to watch all the theorycrafting that goes on over the game.
Admittedly, AA is rather bland and uninspiring with some of the starting quests. I about gave it up the first few minutes I played. However, I try to have an open mind about games and stuck it through just shaking me head a bit.......until I got my glider. I really started having some good fun then and as I looked around, explored, tried to plant my farm plot (grrrr being a F2P player and all), my impressions slowly started changing.
AA is truly sandboxy and if you only spend a few minutes or even 30 minutes like the OP did, you are doing yourself a disservice. It is akin to some books that I've read. A few books have started off dry and boring but start getting very good the further you read. For me, AA was the same way. Heck, even in a game like LOTRO, I was spectacularly unimpressed with some of the opening sequences. However, I ended up staying in that game for several years and bought a lifetime.
Originally posted by Tyggs Installed. Logged in. Created Character. Saw naked female characters dancing under disco lights in the opening area. Logged out. Uninstalled.
Sorry that your few minutes were not good ones. In fact it may have been my guild creating alts and practicing some early strategies for our guild housing plans. We had around 40 folks on just hanging around in the starting area under those disco lights waiting for everyone to get there. Good fun and many laughs through the evening. This game has probably generated the most interest out of any game so far. My guild has been around for 5 years and it is exciting to watch all the theorycrafting that goes on over the game.
Admittedly, AA is rather bland and uninspiring with some of the starting quests. I about gave it up the first few minutes I played. However, I try to have an open mind about games and stuck it through just shaking me head a bit.......until I got my glider. I really started having some good fun then and as I looked around, explored, tried to plant my farm plot (grrrr being a F2P player and all), my impressions slowly started changing.
AA is truly sandboxy and if you only spend a few minutes or even 30 minutes like the OP did, you are doing yourself a disservice. It is akin to some books that I've read. A few books have started off dry and boring but start getting very good the further you read. For me, AA was the same way. Heck, even in a game like LOTRO, I was spectacularly unimpressed with some of the opening sequences. However, I ended up staying in that game for several years and bought a lifetime.
I think the problem isn't the story of your book, but the category. The cover of the book for the OP may have been Dune, but when he started reading it, it turned out to be Fifty Shades of Grey. He stopped reading and asked others why the book wasn't what the blurb on the back said ti would be. You shouldn't have to question a book a few chapters in when it isn't what it is advertised as.
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Originally posted by Cliff1963 Are you trolling? Invest some more hours playing and then form an opinion. Your answers will probably be answered then. Just to be clear: I don't play AA, but with every other MMO: you can't tell what sort of game it is after 30 minutes of play.
You know...the first minute of UO WAS open sandbox....all the way...no he wasn't trolling.
This game is not sandbox...go play UO to see what real sandbox gameplay is like.
And the devs have changed the new player experience about five or six times because even they acknowledge such an intro to the game is a hurdle to player enjoyment, engagement, and retention. The last incarnation of it that I played, the new player starts on an islands designed specifically for them, with quests and other scripted content.
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Yes the first hour of the game is truly awful, to be fair the first hour of ff14 was truly awful. They need to learn how to spice up the first couple of hours or people will leave. the first couple of hours should not be like a bad version of WOW. I will take the exp forum members word that it gets better but I will not continue to play the beta, one torture is enough LOL
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It's not a matter of what is on your resume, it's matters how your thought processes work, and whether or not you "get" how AA is different despite the seeming theme park on the front end.
I know many people who do in fact get it, not sure why or how they do, but they just do. In my own case I didn't really get it for quite a while, was following the quest markers too closely. But after about 30 levels, and after I got heavily involved with a guild and it's activities, and learned to fight for my life on on both land and sea, it started to click. Certainly took a lot longer than 30 minutes.
And I really didn't get the sandbox part until about my 4th or 5th alt, when I figured out how to level it to 25 not doing any quests to speak of. (in just a few days) Was quite a different experience from my first character that I took to 50 almost entirely questing. I'll likely not be doing that again.
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Well when it comes to T and A, what else is there, LOL! Why even make a game?
Have you tried AA or did you also fail to get past the linear themepark tutorial?
FFA Nonconsentual Full Loot PvP ...You know you want it!!
To be honest I forced myself (and better half ) to play Wildstar for around 10 hours over a 3 week period and in reality I knew I hated it in the first 15 minutes but was bullheaded enough not to admit it was a flop from the moment I loaded it ,,,so in defense of the OP perhaps 30 minutes of questing in a game that really isn't about questing was enough for him ...heck some people could play a poor cartoon for 300 + hours , so to each their own I guess
Archeage is a sandbox. Just bc you CHOSE to play it like WoW, doesnt mean its not a sandbox. You are obviously of the generation of gamers created by hand-holding mmo's. Ive leveled 3 toons to 50 and i havent killed a single mob since i hit lvl 15 on my first toon. Sandbox doesnt mean you cant play it like a linear WoW kiddie... it just means you dont have to. The fact that you chose to play it for 30 mins, chose to play it just like you would have played WoW, by following breadcrumb quests, then come running here to complain, tells us a lot.
I can't play because they haven't fixed the bug prohibiting me that I reported CBT3.
This argument never works because it's entirely based on opinion. We've seen it over and over with each game. The OP has issues with the game which you disagree on and instead of talking about it, you try to discredit him by saying he lacks the perspective or experience. If you like the game, great for you. But coming around with this pretentious attitude and attacking the OP for not being gifted enough to identify the glory of this game......is really nothing more than a bloated condescending statement.
if you want to discuss the issues the OP is bringing up, then discuss them instead of trying to categorize him into your neat little definition. Right now you it appears you are only interested in discrediting him.
guys guys guys. stop replying to this thread. any player who logs out/uninstalls after 1 minute to 1 day or so or even after a handful of levels isn't going to be a long time player so let them go.
I mean, you either like the game or you don't OR you don't have the patience to find out. so clearly these guys don't have the patience nor desire to explore the game. ok adios, cya later then.
I mean dudes, c'mon, when you like an mmo you play it for years and years and get hooked. we like it, others don't fine good, get out of our game. this game is about crafting, trade runs, harvesting but has a long tutorial to explain it. If these guys can't make it through the tutorial, let them leave, its fine. if they can't last a day, then whats the big deal?
I'd prefer tho, in these posts, if these types of posters would write, what they feel is an awesome game so we know where they are coming from. Not necessarily to say, ok go back to that game dude! but more to say, oh ok, I see what type of game you like and this is not it or it is it etc
Lol from someone who paid the 150 bucks at the beginning, sorry but there is no sandbox.
I wont even bother to log in for the free period.
What a complete waist of money and time trying it for the last 3 months.
Seems the old school mmo are gone, time to retire and do something productive with my spare time.
Goodbye hope you have fun with your quick fix 6 monthly mmo's.
I'm honestly not seeing him complaining so much as asking for direction from players who can answer questions. Sure the one statement about it being linear is a bit snarky, but perhaps you could answer his questions. I have been reading this thread trying get answers myself, and most of them are not really helping him.
The little bit I did play, they handed the game to me in a format to play like WoW, and that may be the reason he is confused, and so am I.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
We get it.. it has quests and leveling, everyone run! no sandbox here guys I just played for 30 minutes and made sure!
I am sure there are plenty of early access, "steal your money" sandboxes just waiting for you.
Looking forward to: Crowfall / Lost Ark / Black Desert Mobile
few hours a day? ok, someone needs to explain "casual" to me. i play a few a week. he said hes super casual. so what am i?
tbh the way its set up right now you will not experience much of a sandbox within a half an hour and thats just the plain truth
its going to take to time to build up labor and for the most part itll be a linear run till you finish questing . once your able to break off the quest chain and build your house and farm and all sorts of stuff that is when you experience the sand box part of it . other then that i wouldnt look to this game for great questing . if you look past that it all opens up later on . i dont think anybody called AA a sandbox and if they did they are mistaken . repop is a sandbox , perpetuum is a sandbox , AA is sandpark
taking the fact that the think you can experience a in 30 min.. i give you 30 min of play time in a real sandbox before you quit
It might be that way, but in 30 minutes you can figure some things out. If you are told sandbox, and thrown right into the same old themepark at the start, then you question the format of the title. That is what the OP was questioning I believe.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
I disagree. There are many games I have done the same thing for.
For some of those games, I even came back as a longtime player because my perception changed.
Source for these?
Your argument should really be directed at the poster above in yellow since he initiated the dialogue.
It is not sandbox. It never was.
Additionally what XL Games did since deep in Korean beta in 2012, it did remove or trivalize those sandbox-lite elements all the time.
You know...the first minute of UO is open sandbox....all the way...no he wasn't trolling.
This game is not sandbox...go play UO to see what real sandbox gameplay is like.
Sorry that your few minutes were not good ones. In fact it may have been my guild creating alts and practicing some early strategies for our guild housing plans. We had around 40 folks on just hanging around in the starting area under those disco lights waiting for everyone to get there. Good fun and many laughs through the evening. This game has probably generated the most interest out of any game so far. My guild has been around for 5 years and it is exciting to watch all the theorycrafting that goes on over the game.
Admittedly, AA is rather bland and uninspiring with some of the starting quests. I about gave it up the first few minutes I played. However, I try to have an open mind about games and stuck it through just shaking me head a bit.......until I got my glider. I really started having some good fun then and as I looked around, explored, tried to plant my farm plot (grrrr being a F2P player and all), my impressions slowly started changing.
AA is truly sandboxy and if you only spend a few minutes or even 30 minutes like the OP did, you are doing yourself a disservice. It is akin to some books that I've read. A few books have started off dry and boring but start getting very good the further you read. For me, AA was the same way. Heck, even in a game like LOTRO, I was spectacularly unimpressed with some of the opening sequences. However, I ended up staying in that game for several years and bought a lifetime.
I think the problem isn't the story of your book, but the category. The cover of the book for the OP may have been Dune, but when he started reading it, it turned out to be Fifty Shades of Grey. He stopped reading and asked others why the book wasn't what the blurb on the back said ti would be. You shouldn't have to question a book a few chapters in when it isn't what it is advertised as.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
And the devs have changed the new player experience about five or six times because even they acknowledge such an intro to the game is a hurdle to player enjoyment, engagement, and retention. The last incarnation of it that I played, the new player starts on an islands designed specifically for them, with quests and other scripted content.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre