$15 for 1 day of content per week. Restricted on purpose by SE.I am not an idiot, they get no money from me for that shit.
Unless there are some drastic changes to the core game i don't see a bright future.
Grind old dungeons or hunts for TokenXYZ but only 400 then you are done for the week unless you do your single coil run too.
Every couple months SE comes up with a new TokenXYZ and a single new set per class with +3 stats and you start the grind all over again.
Golden Saucer is cute but will get old really quick.
_____
Best part: A new player that has not played for a year comes back to the game and starts grinding same tokens of the Month instantly being at the same level as veterans getting the same gear while others paid for 1 year subscriptions.
Lol not sure what you are smoking. This game comes out with quality content faster than any other game out there.
SE has been good about that, Even FFXI did big chunks in a 3 month or so timeframe.....hell XI gets basically monthly updates now.
As for the quality...well its good, if not repatative. Most updates come with a lot of the same type of content over and over. SO every patch comes with the following:
Main story
Side story
A Primal fight (circle areana with "nails" in the middle to stop big attack)
3 dungeons (2 are always old ones with some changes)
newly named tokens (why they do this...i dunno)
and a rotation between CT and Coil
Of course there is more, but thats generally the big chunks of content and its been pretty much exactly that update after update. He is also not wrong about the catch up thing...its sort of a joke and almost make you just skip stuff because it will all be garbage in 3 months. Not like it means much because the gear stats are snooze worthy anyways.
I find the game to be meh, dont love it, dont hate it, but i see it has a lot of potential and im hoping the expansion starts to change the cycle. I can tell you one thing though, the expansion wont break up that Holy Trinity at all, they build it to tight into content and it leaves little room for the much anticipated "hybrid" jobs they talked about or any room for true support/crowd control type classes.
Originally posted by zaberfangx FF14 have long way to catch up to wow, is maybe 2nd or 3nd top sub mmo eve may have more. there both not going hit 1 mil. if didn't hit it be for there not going hit it now. Not saying is fail mmo, just never be as big as a monster like wow.
Last I checked FFXIV has 2.5 million or more now.
You're wrong.
Actually, he's correct.
Prove it.
Registered accounts are not subscribers and square themselves have said 500k.
I know this is a fan board but still when you lie you set your fellow players up for massive dissapointment.
They are wrong but we don't know how many there are. SE released data but its a year old now and doesn't count China.
Thing is, in the last annual report, they had less than 1 million active subscribers, i sincerely doubt that in the last year, they have more than doubled their subscriber base, though by now i can easily accept they have over 1 million active subscribers, and i do say this as a long time player of the game, the game is successful, which in itself is impressive given the number of games that have 'failed' recently, but all this crazy talk about massive player numbers etc just comes across as desperate, not to mention bizarre, why do people constantly need to try and turn games into WoW beaters, everyone must know by now that its just not going to happen.
Originally posted by Pepeq Had you left out the comment on WoW... you would of had more credibility.
If you had used the correct term 'would have' instead of the nonsense 'would of'... you would have had more credibility.
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'Sandbox MMO' is a PTSD trigger word for anyone who has the experience to know that anonymous players invariably use a 'sandbox' in the same manner a housecat does.
When your head is stuck in the sand, your ass becomes the only recognizable part of you.
No game is more fun than the one you can't play, and no game is more boring than one which you've become familiar.
How to become a millionaire: Start with a billion dollars and make an MMO.
Originally posted by zaberfangx FF14 have long way to catch up to wow, is maybe 2nd or 3nd top sub mmo eve may have more. there both not going hit 1 mil. if didn't hit it be for there not going hit it now. Not saying is fail mmo, just never be as big as a monster like wow.
Eve has about 1 Million Subs. FFXIV has over 2 Million Subs and is nearing 3 Million subs. No other game in the last 8+ year has keep and gain subs past the 3 month mark. FFXIV is a fine game and is one of the best MMOs on the market right now.
When Square-Enix themselves says they only have 1 million players TOTAL over their 3 mmos, you need to cut back on the 2-3 million bullshit.
- a year ago
- pre-chinese release
Aside from being completely outdated it's completely valid data.
Using LOL is like saying "my argument sucks but I still want to disagree".
$15 for 1 day of content per week. Restricted on purpose by SE.I am not an idiot, they get no money from me for that shit.
Unless there are some drastic changes to the core game i don't see a bright future.
Grind old dungeons or hunts for TokenXYZ but only 400 then you are done for the week unless you do your single coil run too.
Every couple months SE comes up with a new TokenXYZ and a single new set per class with +3 stats and you start the grind all over again.
Golden Saucer is cute but will get old really quick.
_____
Best part: A new player that has not played for a year comes back to the game and starts grinding same tokens of the Month instantly being at the same level as veterans getting the same gear while others paid for 1 year subscriptions.
Lol not sure what you are smoking. This game comes out with quality content faster than any other game out there.
Rift, trove, wildstar, MH, Warframe? need to say more, not only game that bring out content pretty fast, I am not called them faster they do have down time like every other mmo even ff14.
$15 for 1 day of content per week. Restricted on purpose by SE.I am not an idiot, they get no money from me for that shit.
Unless there are some drastic changes to the core game i don't see a bright future.
Grind old dungeons or hunts for TokenXYZ but only 400 then you are done for the week unless you do your single coil run too.
Every couple months SE comes up with a new TokenXYZ and a single new set per class with +3 stats and you start the grind all over again.
Golden Saucer is cute but will get old really quick.
_____
Best part: A new player that has not played for a year comes back to the game and starts grinding same tokens of the Month instantly being at the same level as veterans getting the same gear while others paid for 1 year subscriptions.
Lol not sure what you are smoking. This game comes out with quality content faster than any other game out there.
Rift, trove, wildstar, MH, Warframe? need to say more, not only game that bring out content pretty fast, I am not called them faster they do have down time like every other mmo even ff14.
You really don't need to say more, it's painfully obvious you don't even play this game. To say that FFXIV pumps out more content than all those games combined is hardly an overstatement.
Sorry but he's correct and you are mking up stuff based on a small sample of your personal experiences to a point where your conclusion is meaningless. SE did anounce recently that they have "almost" 1 million subscribers among 3 of their games - FFXIV, FFXI and one more which I can't remember the name of.
Try again next time with real facts without getting all worked up when you get called on your faerie tales.
"Correction: Square Enix's annual report was released on March 31, 2014, when the company's fiscal year ended. We apologize for the error."
"Recently" as in almost a year ago?
Now you are blaming him for SE not releasing new numbers?
Those are the most recent official numbers we have.
To me recently does not imply a year ago. The number may not have budged but I'm just saying there's 11 months in between that data and today. Hardly a reliable indicator of anything. Hell, that was pre-chinese and korean release too.
I'm fine with 600k or whatever but the numbers are still none the less hopelessly outdated.
Quite a lot of those articles claimed that the announcement was made in relation to 2014 and not 2013 and were worded like the announcement was made last month. IF you even see the article you linked they made a correction to say that they meant the fiscal 2014 (which in theory is 2013). So this is why I said recently.
Still it's the only reliable number we can go on. Or do you think that guy that's making up stuff like 2-3m is more reliable? We will soon find out what the most up to date figure is when they come out with their 2014 results. Besides do you really think that if FFXIV broke 1m or 2m, they wouldn't publicise and keep quiet? No way.
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Quite a lot of those articles claimed that the announcement was made in relation to 2014 and not 2013 and were worded like the announcement was made last month. IF you even see the article you linked they made a correction to say that they meant the fiscal 2014 (which in theory is 2013). So this is why I said recently.
Still it's the only reliable number we can go on. Or do you think that guy that's making up stuff like 2-3m is more reliable? We will soon find out what the most up to date figure is when they come out with their 2014 results. Besides do you really think that if FFXIV broke 1m or 2m, they wouldn't publicise and keep quiet? No way.
I think both figures are complete nonsense at this point for obvious reasons and using either will not provide even slightly accurate results for today. All we can do is wait a month for SE's numbers or a few more months for the community-counted numbers (until XIVsouls.com is up to date again). Which then will be moot once Heavensward is released anyway, as a sub spike is, if not guaranteed, highly possible.
Either way as long as XIV is being supported as if it were a 10 million sub giant it is completely moot whether the game has 5 million subs or 300k.
Using LOL is like saying "my argument sucks but I still want to disagree".
$15 for 1 day of content per week. Restricted on purpose by SE.I am not an idiot, they get no money from me for that shit.
Unless there are some drastic changes to the core game i don't see a bright future.
Grind old dungeons or hunts for TokenXYZ but only 400 then you are done for the week unless you do your single coil run too.
Every couple months SE comes up with a new TokenXYZ and a single new set per class with +3 stats and you start the grind all over again.
Golden Saucer is cute but will get old really quick.
_____
Best part: A new player that has not played for a year comes back to the game and starts grinding same tokens of the Month instantly being at the same level as veterans getting the same gear while others paid for 1 year subscriptions.
Lol not sure what you are smoking. This game comes out with quality content faster than any other game out there.
Rift, trove, wildstar, MH, Warframe? need to say more, not only game that bring out content pretty fast, I am not called them faster they do have down time like every other mmo even ff14.
You really don't need to say more, it's painfully obvious you don't even play this game. To say that FFXIV pumps out more content than all those games combined is hardly an overstatement.
The servers are going to collapse come Heavensward.
Still don't say sub, see how they word it, make people think is sub, is how many accounts they have, what was it last year 2 mil? but didn't have even 1 mil sub.
You really don't need to say more, it's painfully obvious you don't even play this game. To say that FFXIV pumps out more content than all those games combined is hardly an overstatement.
The servers are going to collapse come Heavensward.
Still don't say sub, see how they word it, make people think is sub, is how many accounts they have, what was it last year 2 mil? but didn't have even 1 mil sub.
I wonder which fools people more, the fact they're providing vague information regarding player numbers or by treating the game as if they had WoW-like sub numbers? More importantly, who (aside from WoW players feeling threatened) gives a damn since the figure has no actual significance?
Using LOL is like saying "my argument sucks but I still want to disagree".
Definately reccomend this game if you can get past the slow combat. If you can't then the game is not for you. I playing the crap out of it for awhile now and still haven't done everything.
You really don't need to say more, it's painfully obvious you don't even play this game. To say that FFXIV pumps out more content than all those games combined is hardly an overstatement.
The servers are going to collapse come Heavensward.
Still don't say sub, see how they word it, make people think is sub, is how many accounts they have, what was it last year 2 mil? but didn't have even 1 mil sub.
I wonder which fools people more, the fact they're providing vague information regarding player numbers or by treating the game as if they had WoW-like sub numbers? More importantly, who (aside from WoW players feeling threatened) gives a damn since the figure has no actual significance?
You really don't need to say more, it's painfully obvious you don't even play this game. To say that FFXIV pumps out more content than all those games combined is hardly an overstatement.
The servers are going to collapse come Heavensward.
Still don't say sub, see how they word it, make people think is sub, is how many accounts they have, what was it last year 2 mil? but didn't have even 1 mil sub.
I wonder which fools people more, the fact they're providing vague information regarding player numbers or by treating the game as if they had WoW-like sub numbers? More importantly, who (aside from WoW players feeling threatened) gives a damn since the figure has no actual significance?
You really don't need to say more, it's painfully obvious you don't even play this game. To say that FFXIV pumps out more content than all those games combined is hardly an overstatement.
The servers are going to collapse come Heavensward.
Still don't say sub, see how they word it, make people think is sub, is how many accounts they have, what was it last year 2 mil? but didn't have even 1 mil sub.
I wonder which fools people more, the fact they're providing vague information regarding player numbers or by treating the game as if they had WoW-like sub numbers? More importantly, who (aside from WoW players feeling threatened) gives a damn since the figure has no actual significance?
There number sure keeps going up:) not even a hit from WoD expack when every other game took big hit losing people to it.
I don't believe they have 4 million subs. I said they're providing vague information. Do you not agree or why are we continuing the discussion?
The info you gave me don't say sub, just accounts, thats it, they been saying that from day one? we don't know the sub number not going get them until few months from now, but you only show me how many accounts they have not sub.
If you think not, ask them on the forums prove me wrong clear it up with them. Is it sub or acct.?
You really don't need to say more, it's painfully obvious you don't even play this game. To say that FFXIV pumps out more content than all those games combined is hardly an overstatement.
The servers are going to collapse come Heavensward.
Still don't say sub, see how they word it, make people think is sub, is how many accounts they have, what was it last year 2 mil? but didn't have even 1 mil sub.
I wonder which fools people more, the fact they're providing vague information regarding player numbers or by treating the game as if they had WoW-like sub numbers? More importantly, who (aside from WoW players feeling threatened) gives a damn since the figure has no actual significance?
There number sure keeps going up:) not even a hit from WoD expack when every other game took big hit losing people to it.
I don't believe they have 4 million subs. I said they're providing vague information. Do you not agree or why are we continuing the discussion?
The info you gave me don't say sub, just accounts, thats it, they been saying that from day one? we don't know the sub number not going get them until few months from now, but you only show me how many accounts they have not sub.
If you think not, ask them on the forums prove me wrong clear it up with them. Is it sub or acct.?
It wasn't for you in particular, it was for everyone. New information just released today. Not a part of my argument. My apologies if I wasn't being clear. I just said few posts back we don't know the sub numbers until in a few months so there is nothing to disagree about mate.
Using LOL is like saying "my argument sucks but I still want to disagree".
You really don't need to say more, it's painfully obvious you don't even play this game. To say that FFXIV pumps out more content than all those games combined is hardly an overstatement.
The servers are going to collapse come Heavensward.
Still don't say sub, see how they word it, make people think is sub, is how many accounts they have, what was it last year 2 mil? but didn't have even 1 mil sub.
I wonder which fools people more, the fact they're providing vague information regarding player numbers or by treating the game as if they had WoW-like sub numbers? More importantly, who (aside from WoW players feeling threatened) gives a damn since the figure has no actual significance?
There number sure keeps going up:) not even a hit from WoD expack when every other game took big hit losing people to it.
I don't believe they have 4 million subs. I said they're providing vague information. Do you not agree or why are we continuing the discussion?
The info you gave me don't say sub, just accounts, thats it, they been saying that from day one? we don't know the sub number not going get them until few months from now, but you only show me how many accounts they have not sub.
If you think not, ask them on the forums prove me wrong clear it up with them. Is it sub or acct.?
It wasn't for you in particular, it was for everyone. New information just released today. Not a part of my argument. My apologies if I wasn't being clear. I just said few posts back we don't know the sub numbers until in a few months so there is nothing to disagree about mate.
Even ways is not a bad game, when I played it didn't hooked me in, good part there doing keeping the game box cheap so more people to try it out, just hope that free weekend don't mess with people play time with queues.
$15 for 1 day of content per week. Restricted on purpose by SE.I am not an idiot, they get no money from me for that shit.
Unless there are some drastic changes to the core game i don't see a bright future.
Grind old dungeons or hunts for TokenXYZ but only 400 then you are done for the week unless you do your single coil run too.
Every couple months SE comes up with a new TokenXYZ and a single new set per class with +3 stats and you start the grind all over again.
Golden Saucer is cute but will get old really quick.
_____
Best part: A new player that has not played for a year comes back to the game and starts grinding same tokens of the Month instantly being at the same level as veterans getting the same gear while others paid for 1 year subscriptions.
Lol not sure what you are smoking. This game comes out with quality content faster than any other game out there.
Rift, trove, wildstar, MH, Warframe? need to say more, not only game that bring out content pretty fast, I am not called them faster they do have down time like every other mmo even ff14.
You really don't need to say more, it's painfully obvious you don't even play this game. To say that FFXIV pumps out more content than all those games combined is hardly an overstatement.
The servers are going to collapse come Heavensward.
FFXIV has free trials which also count towards account numbers & World of Warcraft has 100 Million accounts. Accounts are free trials, people that played years ago and no longer play etc. I would be impressed if they gave actual subscriber numbers instead of continually giving misleading ones. Funny how they can pull registered accounts before the financial report is out yet can't do the same for subscribers.
For someone that doesn't care about numbers you sure care about numbers.
Yep registered accounts are simply people who have signed up; registered accounts are not subscribers.
Last March SE announced 3 games had a total of nearly 1M.
Last November - when SE announced their mid-year results - they said nothing. If total subscribers had risen to 2M or 3M or 4M .... that would have been a major change. SE would have to have reported this. Not to say so would leave them open to charges of share price manipulation. Conclusion: no huge change (up or down) has happened.
$15 for 1 day of content per week. Restricted on purpose by SE.I am not an idiot, they get no money from me for that shit.
Unless there are some drastic changes to the core game i don't see a bright future.
Grind old dungeons or hunts for TokenXYZ but only 400 then you are done for the week unless you do your single coil run too.
Every couple months SE comes up with a new TokenXYZ and a single new set per class with +3 stats and you start the grind all over again.
Golden Saucer is cute but will get old really quick.
_____
Best part: A new player that has not played for a year comes back to the game and starts grinding same tokens of the Month instantly being at the same level as veterans getting the same gear while others paid for 1 year subscriptions.
Lol not sure what you are smoking. This game comes out with quality content faster than any other game out there.
Rift, trove, wildstar, MH, Warframe? need to say more, not only game that bring out content pretty fast, I am not called them faster they do have down time like every other mmo even ff14.
You really don't need to say more, it's painfully obvious you don't even play this game. To say that FFXIV pumps out more content than all those games combined is hardly an overstatement.
The servers are going to collapse come Heavensward.
FFXIV has free trials which also count towards account numbers & World of Warcraft has 100 Million accounts. Accounts are free trials, people that played years ago and no longer play etc. I would be impressed if they gave actual subscriber numbers instead of continually giving misleading ones. Funny how they can pull registered accounts before the financial report is out yet can't do the same for subscribers.
For someone that doesn't care about numbers you sure care about numbers.
All I did was report a news that seemed highly relevant to this thread. A sure sign I give a crap, even though said numbers make no difference in any way whatsoever
By the way, free trials are excluded from the 4 million figure:
Originally posted by GeezerGamer I just returned to the game recently after being disappointed with SWTORs' new expansion. I knew XIV was still doing well since release, but I had no idea how well. I have no idea what the actual numbers are, but log into any server and you'll see people. And lots of them, across all zones. Half the NA servers are still on population lock downs and I have even dealt with log-in queues during peak hours. I've mostly been on my original server re leveling my old toon in a new class, But, I've also been leveling on several other servers as well since I kinda wanted to re-experience the story again. This is nearly unheard of in any Post-WoW MMORPG after 16 months of operation. Every zone I've seen still has plenty of people running Fates, Leves and/or quests.So, you can argue numbers if you want. Or you can play the game and see for yourself just how popular this game still is.
Welcome back! If you can squeeze in a character on balmung, let me know. I will meet up with you.
The game servers are hopping for sure. Only people who do not play this game do not realise how popular it is. Plus they really add content like crazy wonderful team behind it.
Originally posted by kitarad The game servers are hopping for sure. Only people who do not play this game do not realise how popular it is. Plus they really add content like crazy wonderful team behind it.
That's usually the reality of things. At the moment the WoW forums are being lit up with how little content 6.1 has, in addition to the majority of people being unhappy with male Blood Elf models. I'm among those numbers on both fronts; it's like Blizzard doesn't even care or try anymore. Closing my five accounts on it. Probably going to sell the five sixty day cards I have stashed as well. This is down from my twelve accounts from back when I was multi-boxing and paying for friend's accounts.
FFXIV will continue to have my support provided they keep on showing respect to the customer and releasing patches that have more content than entire WoW expansions (system and story-wise). In addition to not putting popular new features behind pay walls like they could've done with 90% of their stuff in the last five patches, more specifically Ninja, Housing, Gold Saucer, Marriage, Chocobo systems, etc. Heck, they even give every character on your account appearance chances if you pay $10 for one, while also using that money to buy more servers for housing districts. Companies that aren't overly greedy make me happy.
Probably going to activate my second legacy account. Also looking forward to ESO Unlimited's launch as well as fooling around more on Black Desert when it's released in the west.
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it doesn't matter if there are 4 million people or 2 million or 1, when i log in i am always in queues and every single region is full, and i can't even enter gold saucer because it is full always, only people who do not play it are making up things like small number of players or what ever. what ever the case is this game after 1 and a half year is still always freakin full, just log in and see for yourself, i haven't seen this many people in any mmo i have played. i am not gonna guess the numbers or what ever i am seeing full servers on my own when i log in, hell i can't even make another char because they are closed for making because the servers are FULL
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SE has been good about that, Even FFXI did big chunks in a 3 month or so timeframe.....hell XI gets basically monthly updates now.
As for the quality...well its good, if not repatative. Most updates come with a lot of the same type of content over and over. SO every patch comes with the following:
Main story
Side story
A Primal fight (circle areana with "nails" in the middle to stop big attack)
3 dungeons (2 are always old ones with some changes)
newly named tokens (why they do this...i dunno)
and a rotation between CT and Coil
Of course there is more, but thats generally the big chunks of content and its been pretty much exactly that update after update. He is also not wrong about the catch up thing...its sort of a joke and almost make you just skip stuff because it will all be garbage in 3 months. Not like it means much because the gear stats are snooze worthy anyways.
I find the game to be meh, dont love it, dont hate it, but i see it has a lot of potential and im hoping the expansion starts to change the cycle. I can tell you one thing though, the expansion wont break up that Holy Trinity at all, they build it to tight into content and it leaves little room for the much anticipated "hybrid" jobs they talked about or any room for true support/crowd control type classes.
Thing is, in the last annual report, they had less than 1 million active subscribers, i sincerely doubt that in the last year, they have more than doubled their subscriber base, though by now i can easily accept they have over 1 million active subscribers, and i do say this as a long time player of the game, the game is successful, which in itself is impressive given the number of games that have 'failed' recently, but all this crazy talk about massive player numbers etc just comes across as desperate, not to mention bizarre, why do people constantly need to try and turn games into WoW beaters, everyone must know by now that its just not going to happen.
If you had used the correct term 'would have' instead of the nonsense 'would of'... you would have had more credibility.
(look it up)
'Sandbox MMO' is a PTSD trigger word for anyone who has the experience to know that anonymous players invariably use a 'sandbox' in the same manner a housecat does.
When your head is stuck in the sand, your ass becomes the only recognizable part of you.
No game is more fun than the one you can't play, and no game is more boring than one which you've become familiar.
How to become a millionaire:
Start with a billion dollars and make an MMO.
- a year ago
- pre-chinese release
Aside from being completely outdated it's completely valid data.
Rift, trove, wildstar, MH, Warframe? need to say more, not only game that bring out content pretty fast, I am not called them faster they do have down time like every other mmo even ff14.
You really don't need to say more, it's painfully obvious you don't even play this game. To say that FFXIV pumps out more content than all those games combined is hardly an overstatement.
In other news, FFXIV has broken the 4 million accounts milestone: http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/053fde1539272640c4e2b362042d0d2686f228b1
The servers are going to collapse come Heavensward.
Quite a lot of those articles claimed that the announcement was made in relation to 2014 and not 2013 and were worded like the announcement was made last month. IF you even see the article you linked they made a correction to say that they meant the fiscal 2014 (which in theory is 2013). So this is why I said recently.
Still it's the only reliable number we can go on. Or do you think that guy that's making up stuff like 2-3m is more reliable? We will soon find out what the most up to date figure is when they come out with their 2014 results. Besides do you really think that if FFXIV broke 1m or 2m, they wouldn't publicise and keep quiet? No way.
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I think both figures are complete nonsense at this point for obvious reasons and using either will not provide even slightly accurate results for today. All we can do is wait a month for SE's numbers or a few more months for the community-counted numbers (until XIVsouls.com is up to date again). Which then will be moot once Heavensward is released anyway, as a sub spike is, if not guaranteed, highly possible.
Either way as long as XIV is being supported as if it were a 10 million sub giant it is completely moot whether the game has 5 million subs or 300k.
Still don't say sub, see how they word it, make people think is sub, is how many accounts they have, what was it last year 2 mil? but didn't have even 1 mil sub.
I wonder which fools people more, the fact they're providing vague information regarding player numbers or by treating the game as if they had WoW-like sub numbers? More importantly, who (aside from WoW players feeling threatened) gives a damn since the figure has no actual significance?
This isn't a signature, you just think it is.
When they says 4 million accounts, is just accounts if you believe that they have 4 million sub, then you can explain last year when they hit over 2 mil http://www.pcgamer.com/final-fantasy-14-a-realm-reborn-bags-over-two-million-registered-accounts/ this was last year, a month or 2 older then the report that had with only under 1 mil sub with all 3 games.
There number sure keeps going up:) not even a hit from WoD expack when every other game took big hit losing people to it.
I don't believe they have 4 million subs. I said they're providing vague information. Do you not agree or why are we continuing the discussion?
The info you gave me don't say sub, just accounts, thats it, they been saying that from day one? we don't know the sub number not going get them until few months from now, but you only show me how many accounts they have not sub.
If you think not, ask them on the forums prove me wrong clear it up with them. Is it sub or acct.?
It wasn't for you in particular, it was for everyone. New information just released today. Not a part of my argument. My apologies if I wasn't being clear. I just said few posts back we don't know the sub numbers until in a few months so there is nothing to disagree about mate.
Even ways is not a bad game, when I played it didn't hooked me in, good part there doing keeping the game box cheap so more people to try it out, just hope that free weekend don't mess with people play time with queues.
FFXIV has free trials which also count towards account numbers & World of Warcraft has 100 Million accounts. Accounts are free trials, people that played years ago and no longer play etc. I would be impressed if they gave actual subscriber numbers instead of continually giving misleading ones. Funny how they can pull registered accounts before the financial report is out yet can't do the same for subscribers.
For someone that doesn't care about numbers you sure care about numbers.
Yep registered accounts are simply people who have signed up; registered accounts are not subscribers.
Last March SE announced 3 games had a total of nearly 1M.
Last November - when SE announced their mid-year results - they said nothing. If total subscribers had risen to 2M or 3M or 4M .... that would have been a major change. SE would have to have reported this. Not to say so would leave them open to charges of share price manipulation. Conclusion: no huge change (up or down) has happened.
All I did was report a news that seemed highly relevant to this thread. A sure sign I give a crap, even though said numbers make no difference in any way whatsoever
By the way, free trials are excluded from the 4 million figure:
http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/2x7put/celebrating_4_million_accounts_free_login_weekend/
That's usually the reality of things. At the moment the WoW forums are being lit up with how little content 6.1 has, in addition to the majority of people being unhappy with male Blood Elf models. I'm among those numbers on both fronts; it's like Blizzard doesn't even care or try anymore. Closing my five accounts on it. Probably going to sell the five sixty day cards I have stashed as well. This is down from my twelve accounts from back when I was multi-boxing and paying for friend's accounts.
FFXIV will continue to have my support provided they keep on showing respect to the customer and releasing patches that have more content than entire WoW expansions (system and story-wise). In addition to not putting popular new features behind pay walls like they could've done with 90% of their stuff in the last five patches, more specifically Ninja, Housing, Gold Saucer, Marriage, Chocobo systems, etc. Heck, they even give every character on your account appearance chances if you pay $10 for one, while also using that money to buy more servers for housing districts. Companies that aren't overly greedy make me happy.
Probably going to activate my second legacy account. Also looking forward to ESO Unlimited's launch as well as fooling around more on Black Desert when it's released in the west.
it doesn't matter if there are 4 million people or 2 million or 1, when i log in i am always in queues and every single region is full, and i can't even enter gold saucer because it is full always, only people who do not play it are making up things like small number of players or what ever. what ever the case is this game after 1 and a half year is still always freakin full, just log in and see for yourself, i haven't seen this many people in any mmo i have played. i am not gonna guess the numbers or what ever i am seeing full servers on my own when i log in, hell i can't even make another char because they are closed for making because the servers are FULL
p.s. kitarad DAEBAK!!!!
p.p.s. greetings from balmung
I just wish the combat was faster. I'm hoping they remove the skill speed cap or at least let you spec it down further.