Yeah. They are popping up all over the place with increasing regularity and gaining steam. DSmart has mentioned that he is getting smothered with requests for interviews. It's just a matter of time before the main stream media picks up on it. Its about time this fiasco got some attention. Its not looking good for CIG at all.
Did you actually read that article? LOL.
Yes I did. And I found it refreshing that it was written from an unbiased point of view. This is the type of journalism needed because the writer doesn't leave any reason for the fanboys to question and smear him, or his motives, in the article. And unlike the fanboys who are making this all about DSmart, the article agreed that irrespective of how anyone might feel about DSmart, more accountability is indeed needed. Again, that is all that is being sought in all of this. Accountability. And the more press this matter gets, the closer we will get to getting the accountability requested.
EDIT: BTW, isn't it interesting that the unbiased nature in which this writer presented the matter at hand accomplished in refuting the predictable response that you impulsively pushed in your first post? Congratulations for getting reeled in - hook, line, and sinker go out to you indeed.
Originally posted by Warley
Media sources interview people they believe will bring sensationalism to their sites. This is what Derek Smart wants. Congratulations, you're being reeled in - hook, line, and sinker.
Yeah. They are popping up all over the place with increasing regularity and gaining steam. DSmart has mentioned that he is getting smothered with requests for interviews. It's just a matter of time before the main stream media picks up on it. Its about time this fiasco got some attention. Its not looking good for CIG at all.
Media sources interview people they believe will bring sensationalism to their sites. This is what Derek Smart wants. Congratulations, you're being reeled in - hook, line, and sinker.
Nowhere in the article did they mention interviewing Derek Smart for the article hence it's under and titled as OP-ED.
Yeah. They are popping up all over the place with increasing regularity and gaining steam. DSmart has mentioned that he is getting smothered with requests for interviews. It's just a matter of time before the main stream media picks up on it. Its about time this fiasco got some attention. Its not looking good for CIG at all.
Media sources interview people they believe will bring sensationalism to their sites. This is what Derek Smart wants. Congratulations, you're being reeled in - hook, line, and sinker.
Nowhere in the article did they mention interviewing Derek Smart for the article hence it's under and titled as OP-ED.
These people are stuck on "Derek Smart." They can't see anything beyond "Derek Smart." It's so painfully obvious that their plan is to deflect, derail, and obfuscate from the objective at hand by smearing and focusing on "Derek Smart" so as to draw attention away from Robers and CIG. But it won't work. Issues like these tend to take on a life of their own. Derek Smart started it but the media will finish it. And in the end, Derek Smart will be vindicated.
Yeah. They are popping up all over the place with increasing regularity and gaining steam. DSmart has mentioned that he is getting smothered with requests for interviews. It's just a matter of time before the main stream media picks up on it. Its about time this fiasco got some attention. Its not looking good for CIG at all.
Media sources interview people they believe will bring sensationalism to their sites. This is what Derek Smart wants. Congratulations, you're being reeled in - hook, line, and sinker.
Nowhere in the article did they mention interviewing Derek Smart for the article hence it's under and titled as OP-ED.
Yeah. They are popping up all over the place with increasing regularity and gaining steam. DSmart has mentioned that he is getting smothered with requests for interviews. It's just a matter of time before the main stream media picks up on it. Its about time this fiasco got some attention. Its not looking good for CIG at all.
Media sources interview people they believe will bring sensationalism to their sites. This is what Derek Smart wants. Congratulations, you're being reeled in - hook, line, and sinker.
Nowhere in the article did they mention interviewing Derek Smart for the article hence it's under and titled as OP-ED.
These people are stuck on "Derek Smart." They can't see anything beyond "Derek Smart." It's so painfully obvious that their plan is to deflect, derail, and obfuscate from the objective at hand by smearing and focusing on "Derek Smart" so as to draw attention away from Robers and CIG. But it won't work. Issues like these tend to take on a life of their own. Derek Smart started it but the media will finish it. And in the end, Derek Smart will be vindicated.
Derek Smart made this about himself and his 'crusade' against Chris Roberts. So, well, if he wants to make it about himself then it's going to be about him.
If you want the spotlight on yourself and your message to have credibility better be ready for people to do what they're suppose to do and bring up their own concerns with the messenger and his message.
I'm not posting about legitimate concerns or reasonable questions on this topic. I'm posting about Derek Smart and his crusade against Star Citizens, his demands of Chris Roberts, and the seemingly on purpose misleading perspective of developing a game on Star Citizen's scale (which he has never done himself, might I add).
Yeah. They are popping up all over the place with increasing regularity and gaining steam. DSmart has mentioned that he is getting smothered with requests for interviews. It's just a matter of time before the main stream media picks up on it. Its about time this fiasco got some attention. Its not looking good for CIG at all.
Media sources interview people they believe will bring sensationalism to their sites. This is what Derek Smart wants. Congratulations, you're being reeled in - hook, line, and sinker.
Nowhere in the article did they mention interviewing Derek Smart for the article hence it's under and titled as OP-ED.
... you guys are reaching so hard.
Except this isn't about Derek Smart. Keep deflecting though. Maybe I should just copy/paste a post stating "This isn't about Derek Smart" in every thread that all of you Derek Smart obsessed posters keep posting in trying to make this about Derek Smart. Think if I do that enough times you Derek Smart obsessed posters might eventually get it?
Yeah. They are popping up all over the place with increasing regularity and gaining steam. DSmart has mentioned that he is getting smothered with requests for interviews. It's just a matter of time before the main stream media picks up on it. Its about time this fiasco got some attention. Its not looking good for CIG at all.
Media sources interview people they believe will bring sensationalism to their sites. This is what Derek Smart wants. Congratulations, you're being reeled in - hook, line, and sinker.
Nowhere in the article did they mention interviewing Derek Smart for the article hence it's under and titled as OP-ED.
... you guys are reaching so hard.
Speaking of reaching, any idea what the punctuation after smothered with requests means? I'm guess community college 100 ENG classes are where your talking points are now. Grats.
I'll rewrite that for you for your juvenile mind to comprehend.
The articles are popping up all over the place with increasing regularity and gaining steam, and DSmart has mentioned that he is getting smothered with requests for interviews.
How about this version?
The articles are popping up all over the place with increasing regularity and gaining steam, DSmart also mentioned that he is getting smothered with requests for interviews.
Yeah. They are popping up all over the place with increasing regularity and gaining steam. DSmart has mentioned that he is getting smothered with requests for interviews. It's just a matter of time before the main stream media picks up on it. Its about time this fiasco got some attention. Its not looking good for CIG at all.
Media sources interview people they believe will bring sensationalism to their sites. This is what Derek Smart wants. Congratulations, you're being reeled in - hook, line, and sinker.
Nowhere in the article did they mention interviewing Derek Smart for the article hence it's under and titled as OP-ED.
These people are stuck on "Derek Smart." They can't see anything beyond "Derek Smart." It's so painfully obvious that their plan is to deflect, derail, and obfuscate from the objective at hand by smearing and focusing on "Derek Smart" so as to draw attention away from Robers and CIG. But it won't work. Issues like these tend to take on a life of their own. Derek Smart started it but the media will finish it. And in the end, Derek Smart will be vindicated.
Derek Smart made this about himself and his 'crusade' against Chris Roberts. So, well, if he wants to make it about himself then it's going to be about him.
If you want the spotlight on yourself and your message to have credibility better be ready for people to do what they're suppose to do and bring up their own concerns with the messenger and his message.
I'm not posting about legitimate concerns or reasonable questions on this topic. I'm posting about Derek Smart and his crusade against Star Citizens, his demands of Chris Roberts, and the seemingly on purpose misleading perspective of developing a game on Star Citizen's scale (which he has never done himself, might I add).
You might want to at least make one post about the substance in his message though. It would give you a bit more credibility and you wouldn't come off as such a monumentally obvious CIG shill.
Yeah. They are popping up all over the place with increasing regularity and gaining steam. DSmart has mentioned that he is getting smothered with requests for interviews. It's just a matter of time before the main stream media picks up on it. Its about time this fiasco got some attention. Its not looking good for CIG at all.
Media sources interview people they believe will bring sensationalism to their sites. This is what Derek Smart wants. Congratulations, you're being reeled in - hook, line, and sinker.
Nowhere in the article did they mention interviewing Derek Smart for the article hence it's under and titled as OP-ED.
... you guys are reaching so hard.
Except this isn't about Derek Smart. Keep deflecting though. Maybe I should just copy/paste a post stating "This isn't about Derek Smart" in every thread that all of you Derek Smart obsessed posters keep posting in trying to make this about Derek Smart. Keep deflecting though. Think if I do that enough times you Derek Smart obsessed posters might eventually get it?
Actually, this is about Derek Smart because Derek Smart made it about him and his obvious drive to be a 'leader' of the small minority of backers that agree with him. I'm here to discuss the demands and the misleading (seemingly on purpose) comments and perspective Derek Smart has claimed, all while he is trying to remind people he's an authority on this stuff. Since he wants the spotlight on him, and he wants people to know what's going on with Star Citizen (which is based upon his 'instincts' and his 'sources', mind you, he seems to imply he has sources in the FTC too), then that's what he is going to get.
If you don't want to have these discussions then don't participate in them.
You might want to at least make one post about the substance in his message though. It would give you a bit more credibility and you wouldn't come off as such a monumentally obvious CIG shill.
You guys just don't want to consider any of it. You want to dodge it, then go back to 'well his message is true'. What message? That there should be more accountability and transparency? Perhaps, more transparency, but you can't hold someone accountable for a mistake that you 'think' may have occurred or may be occurring... we may as well make thoughts a crime too.
Transparency, perhaps, but not to the degree that Derek Smart is 'demanding' they be. I mean, if CIG ever agreed to bring in a backer hired forensic accountant or a backer hired independent executive producer you know damn well that Derek Smart would then try to push his own connections. If you don't use his he'll cry foul, and have a new list of demands.
I'm here to try and reason with people to point to how Derek Smart is the extreme in in all this. He's trying to rile people up.
I mean, are we suppose to now support his message (demand) that calls for Chris Roberts to resign?
Yeah. They are popping up all over the place with increasing regularity and gaining steam. DSmart has mentioned that he is getting smothered with requests for interviews. It's just a matter of time before the main stream media picks up on it. Its about time this fiasco got some attention. Its not looking good for CIG at all.
Media sources interview people they believe will bring sensationalism to their sites. This is what Derek Smart wants. Congratulations, you're being reeled in - hook, line, and sinker.
Nowhere in the article did they mention interviewing Derek Smart for the article hence it's under and titled as OP-ED.
... you guys are reaching so hard.
Except this isn't about Derek Smart. Keep deflecting though. Maybe I should just copy/paste a post stating "This isn't about Derek Smart" in every thread that all of you Derek Smart obsessed posters keep posting in trying to make this about Derek Smart. Keep deflecting though. Think if I do that enough times you Derek Smart obsessed posters might eventually get it?
Actually, this is about Derek Smart because Derek Smart made it about him and his obvious drive to be a 'leader' of the small minority of backers that agree with him. I'm here to discuss the demands and the misleading (seemingly on purpose) comments and perspective Derek Smart has claimed, all while he is trying to remind people he's an authority on this stuff. Since he wants the spotlight on him, and he wants people to know what's going on with Star Citizen (which is based upon his 'instincts' and his 'sources', mind you, he seems to imply he has sources in the FTC too), then that's what he is going to get.
If you don't want to have these discussions then don't participate in them.
That's odd. I didn't hear about this whole rodeo until after CIG on their forums called out DS from his blog posts and refunded/returned his KS money.
You might want to at least make one post about the substance in his message though. It would give you a bit more credibility and you wouldn't come off as such a monumentally obvious CIG shill.
You guys just don't want to consider any of it. You want to dodge it, then go back to 'well his message is true'. What message? That there should be more accountability and transparency? Perhaps, more transparency, but you can't hold someone accountable for a mistake that you 'think' may have occurred or may be occurring... we may as well make thoughts a crime too.
Transparency, perhaps, but not to the degree that Derek Smart is 'demanding' they be. I mean, if CIG ever agreed to bring in a backer hired forensic accountant or a backer hired independent executive producer you know damn well that Derek Smart would then try to push his own connections. If you don't use his he'll cry foul, and have a new list of demands.
I'm here to try and reason with people to point to how Derek Smart is the extreme in in all this. He's trying to rile people up.
I mean, are we suppose to now support his message that calls for Chris Roberts to resign?
Same ole same ole, new thread, new thread, same ole same ole.
Writing a TOS and/or NDA for a backer hired forensic accountant is hard and yet another BS smokescreen which as already been discussed, not to your liking of course.
Yeah. They are popping up all over the place with increasing regularity and gaining steam. DSmart has mentioned that he is getting smothered with requests for interviews. It's just a matter of time before the main stream media picks up on it. Its about time this fiasco got some attention. Its not looking good for CIG at all.
Media sources interview people they believe will bring sensationalism to their sites. This is what Derek Smart wants. Congratulations, you're being reeled in - hook, line, and sinker.
Nowhere in the article did they mention interviewing Derek Smart for the article hence it's under and titled as OP-ED.
... you guys are reaching so hard.
Except this isn't about Derek Smart. Keep deflecting though. Maybe I should just copy/paste a post stating "This isn't about Derek Smart" in every thread that all of you Derek Smart obsessed posters keep posting in trying to make this about Derek Smart. Keep deflecting though. Think if I do that enough times you Derek Smart obsessed posters might eventually get it?
Actually, this is about Derek Smart because Derek Smart made it about him and his obvious drive to be a 'leader' of the small minority of backers that agree with him. I'm here to discuss the demands and the misleading (seemingly on purpose) comments and perspective Derek Smart has claimed, all while he is trying to remind people he's an authority on this stuff. Since he wants the spotlight on him, and he wants people to know what's going on with Star Citizen (which is based upon his 'instincts' and his 'sources', mind you, he seems to imply he has sources in the FTC too), then that's what he is going to get.
If you don't want to have these discussions then don't participate in them.
That's odd. I didn't hear about this whole rodeo until after CIG on their forums called out DS from his blog posts and refunded/returned his KS money.
Well, I didn't even know that Star Citizen was selling ships at this point. I knew about Star Citizen due to the Kickstarter/Crowdfunding fame. My only interest here is the way in which Derek Smart is going about using a 'message' to push his agenda. Since this is related to Star Citizen I'm going to post about it on various forums related to Star Citizen.
I have an issue with his demands for 'legitimate', 'industry perspective' reasons. I've voiced that. Everyone is calling me a shill or CIG fanboy due to that, because I'm pointing out the flaws, poking holes in the demands, and showing how Derek Smart is latching onto 'legitimate' concerns, and then trying to pump them up into full-blown scandalous level bullcrap. I mean, people are now posting about Enron and comparing CIG to Enron...
Think about it.
I've addressed the 'promised a product and release date' numerous times. Everyone was promised at least a 'sailboat', but now that there's funding for a battleship, Derek Smart turns this into 'WE WANT OUR SAILBOAT AND NOW'.
Even if CIG decides to give everyone the sailboat, Derek Smart knows PERFECTLY well that you can't simply slap together the sailboat now. Basically, they've started the framework and engines of a battleship and it isn't simply a matter of sticking a sail on top to turn it into a sailboat now.
Why do you follow the message of someone that has a proven track record of starting flame wars; a self-admitted troll; and has never had a hit game? I mean, check out the peak user activity of Line of Defense on Steam.
This is your messenger. A 'game developer' that thinks of game engines as 'templates', which explains a lot, who has all these 'sources', but when you ask him direct questions he vanishes.
You might want to at least make one post about the substance in his message though. It would give you a bit more credibility and you wouldn't come off as such a monumentally obvious CIG shill.
You guys just don't want to consider any of it. You want to dodge it, then go back to 'well his message is true'. What message? That there should be more accountability and transparency? Perhaps, more transparency, but you can't hold someone accountable for a mistake that you 'think' may have occurred or may be occurring... we may as well make thoughts a crime too.
Transparency, perhaps, but not to the degree that Derek Smart is 'demanding' they be. I mean, if CIG ever agreed to bring in a backer hired forensic accountant or a backer hired independent executive producer you know damn well that Derek Smart would then try to push his own connections. If you don't use his he'll cry foul, and have a new list of demands.
I'm here to try and reason with people to point to how Derek Smart is the extreme in in all this. He's trying to rile people up.
I mean, are we suppose to now support his message that calls for Chris Roberts to resign?
Same ole same ole, new thread, new thread, same ole same ole.
Writing a TOS and/or NDA for a backer hired forensic accountant is hard and yet another BS smokescreen which as already been discussed, not to your liking of course.
Edit:
My crap typing.
So, who gains access to that information? Derek Smart? Who's developing a competing project (even if it's a complete flop). Who picks the independent executive producer? Derek Smart. Because, we both know Derek Smart would raise a big stink if he isn't part of the process or in the know of who is hired, their findings, and being able to comb through all the details.
Yeah. They are popping up all over the place with increasing regularity and gaining steam. DSmart has mentioned that he is getting smothered with requests for interviews. It's just a matter of time before the main stream media picks up on it. Its about time this fiasco got some attention. Its not looking good for CIG at all.
Media sources interview people they believe will bring sensationalism to their sites. This is what Derek Smart wants. Congratulations, you're being reeled in - hook, line, and sinker.
Nowhere in the article did they mention interviewing Derek Smart for the article hence it's under and titled as OP-ED.
... you guys are reaching so hard.
Except this isn't about Derek Smart. Keep deflecting though. Maybe I should just copy/paste a post stating "This isn't about Derek Smart" in every thread that all of you Derek Smart obsessed posters keep posting in trying to make this about Derek Smart. Keep deflecting though. Think if I do that enough times you Derek Smart obsessed posters might eventually get it?
Actually, this is about Derek Smart because Derek Smart made it about him and his obvious drive to be a 'leader' of the small minority of backers that agree with him. I'm here to discuss the demands and the misleading (seemingly on purpose) comments and perspective Derek Smart has claimed, all while he is trying to remind people he's an authority on this stuff. Since he wants the spotlight on him, and he wants people to know what's going on with Star Citizen (which is based upon his 'instincts' and his 'sources', mind you, he seems to imply he has sources in the FTC too), then that's what he is going to get.
If you don't want to have these discussions then don't participate in them.
That's odd. I didn't hear about this whole rodeo until after CIG on their forums called out DS from his blog posts and refunded/returned his KS money.
Well, I didn't even know that Star Citizen was selling ships at this point. I knew about Star Citizen due to the Kickstarter/Crowdfunding fame. My only interest here is the way in which Derek Smart is going about using a 'message' to push his agenda. Since this is related to Star Citizen I'm going to post about it on various forums related to Star Citizen.
I have an issue with his demands for 'legitimate', 'industry perspective' reasons. I've voiced that. Everyone is calling me a shill or CIG fanboy due to that, because I'm pointing out the flaws, poking holes in the demands, and showing how Derek Smart is latching onto 'legitimate' concerns, and then trying to pump them up into full-blown scandalous level bullcrap. I mean, people are now posting about Enron and comparing CIG to Enron...
Think about it.
I've addressed the 'promised a product and release date' numerous times. Everyone was promised at least a 'sailboat', but now that there's funding for a battleship, Derek Smart turns this into 'WE WANT OUR SAILBOAT AND NOW'.
Even if CIG decides to give everyone the sailboat, Derek Smart knows PERFECTLY well that you can't simply slap together the sailboat now. Basically, they've started the framework and engines of a battleship and it isn't simply a matter of sticking a sail on top to turn it into a sailboat now.
Why do you follow the message of someone that has a proven track record of starting flame wars; a self-admitted troll; and has never had a hit game? I mean, check out the peak user activity of Line of Defense on Steam.
This is your messenger. A 'game developer' that thinks of game engines as 'templates', which explains a lot, who has all these 'sources', but when you ask him direct questions he vanishes.
1. You miss the point that KS funding for the sailboat (core game) nets a sailboat (core game) not a battleship (core game).
2. I follow DS because I can, the same way I have SC as a toolbar bookmark right next to his.
3. Care less about how many people are playing games on Steam.
4. DS isn't my messenger, I have never spoken to him outside of a Steam forum post.
You might want to at least make one post about the substance in his message though. It would give you a bit more credibility and you wouldn't come off as such a monumentally obvious CIG shill.
You guys just don't want to consider any of it. You want to dodge it, then go back to 'well his message is true'. What message? That there should be more accountability and transparency? Perhaps, more transparency, but you can't hold someone accountable for a mistake that you 'think' may have occurred or may be occurring... we may as well make thoughts a crime too.
Transparency, perhaps, but not to the degree that Derek Smart is 'demanding' they be. I mean, if CIG ever agreed to bring in a backer hired forensic accountant or a backer hired independent executive producer you know damn well that Derek Smart would then try to push his own connections. If you don't use his he'll cry foul, and have a new list of demands.
I'm here to try and reason with people to point to how Derek Smart is the extreme in in all this. He's trying to rile people up.
I mean, are we suppose to now support his message that calls for Chris Roberts to resign?
Same ole same ole, new thread, new thread, same ole same ole.
Writing a TOS and/or NDA for a backer hired forensic accountant is hard and yet another BS smokescreen which as already been discussed, not to your liking of course.
Edit:
My crap typing.
So, who gains access to that information? Derek Smart? Who's developing a competing project (even if it's a complete flop). Who picks the independent executive producer? Derek Smart. Because, we both know Derek Smart would raise a big stink if he isn't part of the process or in the know of who is hired, their findings, and being able to comb through all the details.
Once again that's for lawyers to decide and could be enforced via ToS/NDA from both sides and you already know that.
Yeah. They are popping up all over the place with increasing regularity and gaining steam. DSmart has mentioned that he is getting smothered with requests for interviews. It's just a matter of time before the main stream media picks up on it. Its about time this fiasco got some attention. Its not looking good for CIG at all.
Media sources interview people they believe will bring sensationalism to their sites. This is what Derek Smart wants. Congratulations, you're being reeled in - hook, line, and sinker.
Nowhere in the article did they mention interviewing Derek Smart for the article hence it's under and titled as OP-ED.
... you guys are reaching so hard.
Except this isn't about Derek Smart. Keep deflecting though. Maybe I should just copy/paste a post stating "This isn't about Derek Smart" in every thread that all of you Derek Smart obsessed posters keep posting in trying to make this about Derek Smart. Keep deflecting though. Think if I do that enough times you Derek Smart obsessed posters might eventually get it?
Actually, this is about Derek Smart because Derek Smart made it about him and his obvious drive to be a 'leader' of the small minority of backers that agree with him. I'm here to discuss the demands and the misleading (seemingly on purpose) comments and perspective Derek Smart has claimed, all while he is trying to remind people he's an authority on this stuff. Since he wants the spotlight on him, and he wants people to know what's going on with Star Citizen (which is based upon his 'instincts' and his 'sources', mind you, he seems to imply he has sources in the FTC too), then that's what he is going to get.
If you don't want to have these discussions then don't participate in them.
That's odd. I didn't hear about this whole rodeo until after CIG on their forums called out DS from his blog posts and refunded/returned his KS money.
Well, I didn't even know that Star Citizen was selling ships at this point. I knew about Star Citizen due to the Kickstarter/Crowdfunding fame. My only interest here is the way in which Derek Smart is going about using a 'message' to push his agenda. Since this is related to Star Citizen I'm going to post about it on various forums related to Star Citizen.
I have an issue with his demands for 'legitimate', 'industry perspective' reasons. I've voiced that. Everyone is calling me a shill or CIG fanboy due to that, because I'm pointing out the flaws, poking holes in the demands, and showing how Derek Smart is latching onto 'legitimate' concerns, and then trying to pump them up into full-blown scandalous level bullcrap. I mean, people are now posting about Enron and comparing CIG to Enron...
Think about it.
I've addressed the 'promised a product and release date' numerous times. Everyone was promised at least a 'sailboat', but now that there's funding for a battleship, Derek Smart turns this into 'WE WANT OUR SAILBOAT AND NOW'.
Even if CIG decides to give everyone the sailboat, Derek Smart knows PERFECTLY well that you can't simply slap together the sailboat now. Basically, they've started the framework and engines of a battleship and it isn't simply a matter of sticking a sail on top to turn it into a sailboat now.
Why do you follow the message of someone that has a proven track record of starting flame wars; a self-admitted troll; and has never had a hit game? I mean, check out the peak user activity of Line of Defense on Steam.
This is your messenger. A 'game developer' that thinks of game engines as 'templates', which explains a lot, who has all these 'sources', but when you ask him direct questions he vanishes.
1. You miss the point that KS funding for the sailboat (core game) nets a sailboat (core game) not a battleship (core game).
2. I follow DS because I can, the same way I have SC as a toolbar bookmark right next to his.
3. Care less about how many people are playing games on Steam.
4. DS isn't my messenger, I have never spoken to him outside of a Steam forum post.
5. Why do you hate DS so much?
6. What has DS personally done to you?
1. Are you serious?
2. Gratz, I don't. I rarely get involved in anything like this unless I see what appears to be nefarious behavior going on.
3. OH, so you're well aware of his history of silencing reviewers/people that give reasonable criticism of him by banning them on Steam?
4. I don't hate anyone. I hate what DS is doing here since I know how he works; his modus operandi. I honestly think that he thinks he'll either get the project shut down or somehow take it over.
5. He's going to be doing a 'personal' thing to a lot of people if people start following his nonsense. This guy is on a 'crusade' to take out Chris Roberts. If you can't see that now then you're blind. He doesn't care that if his bullshit gains traction that a lot of people will really be out of both money and a game. He wants the FTC to investigate? WTF. You know how damaging that would be to a game development company? Not to mention cause future talent to look elsewhere? The world outside would automatically assume that Star Citizen and CIG were somehow criminals (all based upon his 'instincts' and sources; someone, you know, that os developing a competing project).
Not to mention that this 'may' fall under industrial or corporate espionage if there were sources from inside the team:
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spying directed toward discovering the secrets of a rival manufacturer or other industrial company.
I'm here to address his demands, not the concerns of backers (which, for the most part, I agree are legitimate concerns).
Sorry, I don't tolerate witchhunts because someone appears to have a personal grudge stemming from over two decades ago. Reality is. Chris Roberts has far more talent and game development skills than Derek Smart does. Nor does Derek Smart own or is entitled to the ideas that are behind Star Citizen
Yeah. They are popping up all over the place with increasing regularity and gaining steam. DSmart has mentioned that he is getting smothered with requests for interviews. It's just a matter of time before the main stream media picks up on it. Its about time this fiasco got some attention. Its not looking good for CIG at all.
Media sources interview people they believe will bring sensationalism to their sites. This is what Derek Smart wants. Congratulations, you're being reeled in - hook, line, and sinker.
Nowhere in the article did they mention interviewing Derek Smart for the article hence it's under and titled as OP-ED.
... you guys are reaching so hard.
Except this isn't about Derek Smart. Keep deflecting though. Maybe I should just copy/paste a post stating "This isn't about Derek Smart" in every thread that all of you Derek Smart obsessed posters keep posting in trying to make this about Derek Smart. Keep deflecting though. Think if I do that enough times you Derek Smart obsessed posters might eventually get it?
Actually, this is about Derek Smart because Derek Smart made it about him and his obvious drive to be a 'leader' of the small minority of backers that agree with him. I'm here to discuss the demands and the misleading (seemingly on purpose) comments and perspective Derek Smart has claimed, all while he is trying to remind people he's an authority on this stuff. Since he wants the spotlight on him, and he wants people to know what's going on with Star Citizen (which is based upon his 'instincts' and his 'sources', mind you, he seems to imply he has sources in the FTC too), then that's what he is going to get.
If you don't want to have these discussions then don't participate in them.
That's odd. I didn't hear about this whole rodeo until after CIG on their forums called out DS from his blog posts and refunded/returned his KS money.
Well, I didn't even know that Star Citizen was selling ships at this point. I knew about Star Citizen due to the Kickstarter/Crowdfunding fame. My only interest here is the way in which Derek Smart is going about using a 'message' to push his agenda. Since this is related to Star Citizen I'm going to post about it on various forums related to Star Citizen.
I have an issue with his demands for 'legitimate', 'industry perspective' reasons. I've voiced that. Everyone is calling me a shill or CIG fanboy due to that, because I'm pointing out the flaws, poking holes in the demands, and showing how Derek Smart is latching onto 'legitimate' concerns, and then trying to pump them up into full-blown scandalous level bullcrap. I mean, people are now posting about Enron and comparing CIG to Enron...
Think about it.
I've addressed the 'promised a product and release date' numerous times. Everyone was promised at least a 'sailboat', but now that there's funding for a battleship, Derek Smart turns this into 'WE WANT OUR SAILBOAT AND NOW'.
Even if CIG decides to give everyone the sailboat, Derek Smart knows PERFECTLY well that you can't simply slap together the sailboat now. Basically, they've started the framework and engines of a battleship and it isn't simply a matter of sticking a sail on top to turn it into a sailboat now.
Why do you follow the message of someone that has a proven track record of starting flame wars; a self-admitted troll; and has never had a hit game? I mean, check out the peak user activity of Line of Defense on Steam.
This is your messenger. A 'game developer' that thinks of game engines as 'templates', which explains a lot, who has all these 'sources', but when you ask him direct questions he vanishes.
1. You miss the point that KS funding for the sailboat (core game) nets a sailboat (core game) not a battleship (core game).
2. I follow DS because I can, the same way I have SC as a toolbar bookmark right next to his.
3. Care less about how many people are playing games on Steam.
4. DS isn't my messenger, I have never spoken to him outside of a Steam forum post.
5. Why do you hate DS so much?
6. What has DS personally done to you?
1. Are you serious?
2. Gratz, I don't. I rarely get involved in anything like this unless I see what appears to be nefarious behavior going on.
3. OH, so you're well aware of his history of silencing reviewers/people that give reasonable criticism of him by banning them on Steam?
4. I don't hate anyone. I hate what DS is doing here since I know how he works; his modus operandi. I honestly think that he thinks he'll either get the project shut down or somehow take it over.
5. He's going to be doing a 'personal' thing to a lot of people if people start following his nonsense. This guy is on a 'crusade' to take out Chris Roberts. If you can't see that now then you're blind. He doesn't care that if his bullshit gains traction that a lot of people will really be out of both money and a game. He wants the FTC to investigate? WTF. You know how damaging that would be to a game development company? Not to mention cause future talent to look elsewhere? The world outside would automatically assume that Star Citizen and CIG were somehow criminals (all based upon his 'instincts' and sources of someone that is developing a competing project).
I'm here to address his demands, not the concerns of backers (which, for the most part, I agree are legitimate concerns).
Sorry, I don't tolerate witchhunts because someone appears to have a personal grudge stemming from over two decades ago. Reality is. Chris Roberts has far more talent and game development skills than Derek Smart does. Nor does Derek Smart own or is entitled to the ideas that are behind Star Citizen
So you are going on appearance just like some of the SC critics including Derek Smart are. Wonder who has more assets to "back" their appearance up, you or Derek Smart.
@MMOGamer71: Okay, from the dozen of posts you made over the last week it is crystal clear that you do not like the way SC is heading down to and do not wan't to have nothing more with this project.
Why don't you ask for a pledge refund and be done with it?
@MMOGamer71: Okay, from the dozen of posts you made over the last week it is crystal clear that you do not like the way SC is heading down to and do not wan't to have nothing more with this project.
Why don't you ask for a pledge refund and be done with it?
Yeah. They are popping up all over the place with increasing regularity and gaining steam. DSmart has mentioned that he is getting smothered with requests for interviews. It's just a matter of time before the main stream media picks up on it. Its about time this fiasco got some attention. Its not looking good for CIG at all.
Media sources interview people they believe will bring sensationalism to their sites. This is what Derek Smart wants. Congratulations, you're being reeled in - hook, line, and sinker.
Nowhere in the article did they mention interviewing Derek Smart for the article hence it's under and titled as OP-ED.
... you guys are reaching so hard.
Except this isn't about Derek Smart. Keep deflecting though. Maybe I should just copy/paste a post stating "This isn't about Derek Smart" in every thread that all of you Derek Smart obsessed posters keep posting in trying to make this about Derek Smart. Keep deflecting though. Think if I do that enough times you Derek Smart obsessed posters might eventually get it?
Actually, this is about Derek Smart because Derek Smart made it about him and his obvious drive to be a 'leader' of the small minority of backers that agree with him. I'm here to discuss the demands and the misleading (seemingly on purpose) comments and perspective Derek Smart has claimed, all while he is trying to remind people he's an authority on this stuff. Since he wants the spotlight on him, and he wants people to know what's going on with Star Citizen (which is based upon his 'instincts' and his 'sources', mind you, he seems to imply he has sources in the FTC too), then that's what he is going to get.
If you don't want to have these discussions then don't participate in them.
That's odd. I didn't hear about this whole rodeo until after CIG on their forums called out DS from his blog posts and refunded/returned his KS money.
Well, I didn't even know that Star Citizen was selling ships at this point. I knew about Star Citizen due to the Kickstarter/Crowdfunding fame. My only interest here is the way in which Derek Smart is going about using a 'message' to push his agenda. Since this is related to Star Citizen I'm going to post about it on various forums related to Star Citizen.
I have an issue with his demands for 'legitimate', 'industry perspective' reasons. I've voiced that. Everyone is calling me a shill or CIG fanboy due to that, because I'm pointing out the flaws, poking holes in the demands, and showing how Derek Smart is latching onto 'legitimate' concerns, and then trying to pump them up into full-blown scandalous level bullcrap. I mean, people are now posting about Enron and comparing CIG to Enron...
Think about it.
I've addressed the 'promised a product and release date' numerous times. Everyone was promised at least a 'sailboat', but now that there's funding for a battleship, Derek Smart turns this into 'WE WANT OUR SAILBOAT AND NOW'.
Even if CIG decides to give everyone the sailboat, Derek Smart knows PERFECTLY well that you can't simply slap together the sailboat now. Basically, they've started the framework and engines of a battleship and it isn't simply a matter of sticking a sail on top to turn it into a sailboat now.
Why do you follow the message of someone that has a proven track record of starting flame wars; a self-admitted troll; and has never had a hit game? I mean, check out the peak user activity of Line of Defense on Steam.
This is your messenger. A 'game developer' that thinks of game engines as 'templates', which explains a lot, who has all these 'sources', but when you ask him direct questions he vanishes.
1. You miss the point that KS funding for the sailboat (core game) nets a sailboat (core game) not a battleship (core game).
2. I follow DS because I can, the same way I have SC as a toolbar bookmark right next to his.
3. Care less about how many people are playing games on Steam.
4. DS isn't my messenger, I have never spoken to him outside of a Steam forum post.
5. Why do you hate DS so much?
6. What has DS personally done to you?
1. Are you serious?
2. Gratz, I don't. I rarely get involved in anything like this unless I see what appears to be nefarious behavior going on.
3. OH, so you're well aware of his history of silencing reviewers/people that give reasonable criticism of him by banning them on Steam?
4. I don't hate anyone. I hate what DS is doing here since I know how he works; his modus operandi. I honestly think that he thinks he'll either get the project shut down or somehow take it over.
5. He's going to be doing a 'personal' thing to a lot of people if people start following his nonsense. This guy is on a 'crusade' to take out Chris Roberts. If you can't see that now then you're blind. He doesn't care that if his bullshit gains traction that a lot of people will really be out of both money and a game. He wants the FTC to investigate? WTF. You know how damaging that would be to a game development company? Not to mention cause future talent to look elsewhere? The world outside would automatically assume that Star Citizen and CIG were somehow criminals (all based upon his 'instincts' and sources of someone that is developing a competing project).
I'm here to address his demands, not the concerns of backers (which, for the most part, I agree are legitimate concerns).
Sorry, I don't tolerate witchhunts because someone appears to have a personal grudge stemming from over two decades ago. Reality is. Chris Roberts has far more talent and game development skills than Derek Smart does. Nor does Derek Smart own or is entitled to the ideas that are behind Star Citizen
So you are going on appearance just like some of the SC critics including Derek Smart are. Wonder who has more assets to "back" their appearance up, you or Derek Smart.
You are comedy gold.
Where has Derek Smart backed up his assertions that Star Citizen is vaporware?
Yeah. They are popping up all over the place with increasing regularity and gaining steam. DSmart has mentioned that he is getting smothered with requests for interviews. It's just a matter of time before the main stream media picks up on it. Its about time this fiasco got some attention. Its not looking good for CIG at all.
Media sources interview people they believe will bring sensationalism to their sites. This is what Derek Smart wants. Congratulations, you're being reeled in - hook, line, and sinker.
Nowhere in the article did they mention interviewing Derek Smart for the article hence it's under and titled as OP-ED.
... you guys are reaching so hard.
Except this isn't about Derek Smart. Keep deflecting though. Maybe I should just copy/paste a post stating "This isn't about Derek Smart" in every thread that all of you Derek Smart obsessed posters keep posting in trying to make this about Derek Smart. Keep deflecting though. Think if I do that enough times you Derek Smart obsessed posters might eventually get it?
Actually, this is about Derek Smart because Derek Smart made it about him and his obvious drive to be a 'leader' of the small minority of backers that agree with him. I'm here to discuss the demands and the misleading (seemingly on purpose) comments and perspective Derek Smart has claimed, all while he is trying to remind people he's an authority on this stuff. Since he wants the spotlight on him, and he wants people to know what's going on with Star Citizen (which is based upon his 'instincts' and his 'sources', mind you, he seems to imply he has sources in the FTC too), then that's what he is going to get.
If you don't want to have these discussions then don't participate in them.
That's odd. I didn't hear about this whole rodeo until after CIG on their forums called out DS from his blog posts and refunded/returned his KS money.
Well, I didn't even know that Star Citizen was selling ships at this point. I knew about Star Citizen due to the Kickstarter/Crowdfunding fame. My only interest here is the way in which Derek Smart is going about using a 'message' to push his agenda. Since this is related to Star Citizen I'm going to post about it on various forums related to Star Citizen.
I have an issue with his demands for 'legitimate', 'industry perspective' reasons. I've voiced that. Everyone is calling me a shill or CIG fanboy due to that, because I'm pointing out the flaws, poking holes in the demands, and showing how Derek Smart is latching onto 'legitimate' concerns, and then trying to pump them up into full-blown scandalous level bullcrap. I mean, people are now posting about Enron and comparing CIG to Enron...
Think about it.
I've addressed the 'promised a product and release date' numerous times. Everyone was promised at least a 'sailboat', but now that there's funding for a battleship, Derek Smart turns this into 'WE WANT OUR SAILBOAT AND NOW'.
Even if CIG decides to give everyone the sailboat, Derek Smart knows PERFECTLY well that you can't simply slap together the sailboat now. Basically, they've started the framework and engines of a battleship and it isn't simply a matter of sticking a sail on top to turn it into a sailboat now.
Why do you follow the message of someone that has a proven track record of starting flame wars; a self-admitted troll; and has never had a hit game? I mean, check out the peak user activity of Line of Defense on Steam.
This is your messenger. A 'game developer' that thinks of game engines as 'templates', which explains a lot, who has all these 'sources', but when you ask him direct questions he vanishes.
1. You miss the point that KS funding for the sailboat (core game) nets a sailboat (core game) not a battleship (core game).
2. I follow DS because I can, the same way I have SC as a toolbar bookmark right next to his.
3. Care less about how many people are playing games on Steam.
4. DS isn't my messenger, I have never spoken to him outside of a Steam forum post.
5. Why do you hate DS so much?
6. What has DS personally done to you?
1. Are you serious?
2. Gratz, I don't. I rarely get involved in anything like this unless I see what appears to be nefarious behavior going on.
3. OH, so you're well aware of his history of silencing reviewers/people that give reasonable criticism of him by banning them on Steam?
4. I don't hate anyone. I hate what DS is doing here since I know how he works; his modus operandi. I honestly think that he thinks he'll either get the project shut down or somehow take it over.
5. He's going to be doing a 'personal' thing to a lot of people if people start following his nonsense. This guy is on a 'crusade' to take out Chris Roberts. If you can't see that now then you're blind. He doesn't care that if his bullshit gains traction that a lot of people will really be out of both money and a game. He wants the FTC to investigate? WTF. You know how damaging that would be to a game development company? Not to mention cause future talent to look elsewhere? The world outside would automatically assume that Star Citizen and CIG were somehow criminals (all based upon his 'instincts' and sources of someone that is developing a competing project).
I'm here to address his demands, not the concerns of backers (which, for the most part, I agree are legitimate concerns).
Sorry, I don't tolerate witchhunts because someone appears to have a personal grudge stemming from over two decades ago. Reality is. Chris Roberts has far more talent and game development skills than Derek Smart does. Nor does Derek Smart own or is entitled to the ideas that are behind Star Citizen
So you are going on appearance just like some of the SC critics including Derek Smart are. Wonder who has more assets to "back" their appearance up, you or Derek Smart.
You are comedy gold.
Where has Derek Smart backed up his assertions that Star Citizen is vaporware?
Yeah. They are popping up all over the place with increasing regularity and gaining steam. DSmart has mentioned that he is getting smothered with requests for interviews. It's just a matter of time before the main stream media picks up on it. Its about time this fiasco got some attention. Its not looking good for CIG at all.
Media sources interview people they believe will bring sensationalism to their sites. This is what Derek Smart wants. Congratulations, you're being reeled in - hook, line, and sinker.
Nowhere in the article did they mention interviewing Derek Smart for the article hence it's under and titled as OP-ED.
... you guys are reaching so hard.
Except this isn't about Derek Smart. Keep deflecting though. Maybe I should just copy/paste a post stating "This isn't about Derek Smart" in every thread that all of you Derek Smart obsessed posters keep posting in trying to make this about Derek Smart. Keep deflecting though. Think if I do that enough times you Derek Smart obsessed posters might eventually get it?
Actually, this is about Derek Smart because Derek Smart made it about him and his obvious drive to be a 'leader' of the small minority of backers that agree with him. I'm here to discuss the demands and the misleading (seemingly on purpose) comments and perspective Derek Smart has claimed, all while he is trying to remind people he's an authority on this stuff. Since he wants the spotlight on him, and he wants people to know what's going on with Star Citizen (which is based upon his 'instincts' and his 'sources', mind you, he seems to imply he has sources in the FTC too), then that's what he is going to get.
If you don't want to have these discussions then don't participate in them.
That's odd. I didn't hear about this whole rodeo until after CIG on their forums called out DS from his blog posts and refunded/returned his KS money.
Well, I didn't even know that Star Citizen was selling ships at this point. I knew about Star Citizen due to the Kickstarter/Crowdfunding fame. My only interest here is the way in which Derek Smart is going about using a 'message' to push his agenda. Since this is related to Star Citizen I'm going to post about it on various forums related to Star Citizen.
I have an issue with his demands for 'legitimate', 'industry perspective' reasons. I've voiced that. Everyone is calling me a shill or CIG fanboy due to that, because I'm pointing out the flaws, poking holes in the demands, and showing how Derek Smart is latching onto 'legitimate' concerns, and then trying to pump them up into full-blown scandalous level bullcrap. I mean, people are now posting about Enron and comparing CIG to Enron...
Think about it.
I've addressed the 'promised a product and release date' numerous times. Everyone was promised at least a 'sailboat', but now that there's funding for a battleship, Derek Smart turns this into 'WE WANT OUR SAILBOAT AND NOW'.
Even if CIG decides to give everyone the sailboat, Derek Smart knows PERFECTLY well that you can't simply slap together the sailboat now. Basically, they've started the framework and engines of a battleship and it isn't simply a matter of sticking a sail on top to turn it into a sailboat now.
Why do you follow the message of someone that has a proven track record of starting flame wars; a self-admitted troll; and has never had a hit game? I mean, check out the peak user activity of Line of Defense on Steam.
This is your messenger. A 'game developer' that thinks of game engines as 'templates', which explains a lot, who has all these 'sources', but when you ask him direct questions he vanishes.
1. You miss the point that KS funding for the sailboat (core game) nets a sailboat (core game) not a battleship (core game).
2. I follow DS because I can, the same way I have SC as a toolbar bookmark right next to his.
3. Care less about how many people are playing games on Steam.
4. DS isn't my messenger, I have never spoken to him outside of a Steam forum post.
5. Why do you hate DS so much?
6. What has DS personally done to you?
1. Are you serious?
2. Gratz, I don't. I rarely get involved in anything like this unless I see what appears to be nefarious behavior going on.
3. OH, so you're well aware of his history of silencing reviewers/people that give reasonable criticism of him by banning them on Steam?
4. I don't hate anyone. I hate what DS is doing here since I know how he works; his modus operandi. I honestly think that he thinks he'll either get the project shut down or somehow take it over.
5. He's going to be doing a 'personal' thing to a lot of people if people start following his nonsense. This guy is on a 'crusade' to take out Chris Roberts. If you can't see that now then you're blind. He doesn't care that if his bullshit gains traction that a lot of people will really be out of both money and a game. He wants the FTC to investigate? WTF. You know how damaging that would be to a game development company? Not to mention cause future talent to look elsewhere? The world outside would automatically assume that Star Citizen and CIG were somehow criminals (all based upon his 'instincts' and sources of someone that is developing a competing project).
I'm here to address his demands, not the concerns of backers (which, for the most part, I agree are legitimate concerns).
Sorry, I don't tolerate witchhunts because someone appears to have a personal grudge stemming from over two decades ago. Reality is. Chris Roberts has far more talent and game development skills than Derek Smart does. Nor does Derek Smart own or is entitled to the ideas that are behind Star Citizen
So you are going on appearance just like some of the SC critics including Derek Smart are. Wonder who has more assets to "back" their appearance up, you or Derek Smart.
You are comedy gold.
Where has Derek Smart backed up his assertions that Star Citizen is vaporware?
This will be my standard reply to you.
You are comedy gold.
Since you ignored my post above regarding your SC pledge, are you a backer with access to the game?
Since you ignored my post above regarding your SC pledge, are you a backer with access to the game?
If he is that is hilarious, considering his posts on Chris Roberts throughout these threads, he's essentially making a case that investing in him is a bad idea. That would be like me backing a Derek Smart KS product.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
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Yes I did. And I found it refreshing that it was written from an unbiased point of view. This is the type of journalism needed because the writer doesn't leave any reason for the fanboys to question and smear him, or his motives, in the article. And unlike the fanboys who are making this all about DSmart, the article agreed that irrespective of how anyone might feel about DSmart, more accountability is indeed needed. Again, that is all that is being sought in all of this. Accountability. And the more press this matter gets, the closer we will get to getting the accountability requested.
EDIT: BTW, isn't it interesting that the unbiased nature in which this writer presented the matter at hand accomplished in refuting the predictable response that you impulsively pushed in your first post? Congratulations for getting reeled in - hook, line, and sinker go out to you indeed.
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EDIT: Upps, the forum died a bit when i cut and pasted chinese writing ... look here (middle right side) for the Kanji :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Tzu
Have fun
Nowhere in the article did they mention interviewing Derek Smart for the article hence it's under and titled as OP-ED.
These people are stuck on "Derek Smart." They can't see anything beyond "Derek Smart." It's so painfully obvious that their plan is to deflect, derail, and obfuscate from the objective at hand by smearing and focusing on "Derek Smart" so as to draw attention away from Robers and CIG. But it won't work. Issues like these tend to take on a life of their own. Derek Smart started it but the media will finish it. And in the end, Derek Smart will be vindicated.
... you guys are reaching so hard.
Derek Smart made this about himself and his 'crusade' against Chris Roberts. So, well, if he wants to make it about himself then it's going to be about him.
If you want the spotlight on yourself and your message to have credibility better be ready for people to do what they're suppose to do and bring up their own concerns with the messenger and his message.
I'm not posting about legitimate concerns or reasonable questions on this topic. I'm posting about Derek Smart and his crusade against Star Citizens, his demands of Chris Roberts, and the seemingly on purpose misleading perspective of developing a game on Star Citizen's scale (which he has never done himself, might I add).
Except this isn't about Derek Smart. Keep deflecting though. Maybe I should just copy/paste a post stating "This isn't about Derek Smart" in every thread that all of you Derek Smart obsessed posters keep posting in trying to make this about Derek Smart. Think if I do that enough times you Derek Smart obsessed posters might eventually get it?
Speaking of reaching, any idea what the punctuation after smothered with requests means? I'm guess community college 100 ENG classes are where your talking points are now. Grats.
I'll rewrite that for you for your juvenile mind to comprehend.
The articles are popping up all over the place with increasing regularity and gaining steam, and DSmart has mentioned that he is getting smothered with requests for interviews.
How about this version?
The articles are popping up all over the place with increasing regularity and gaining steam, DSmart also mentioned that he is getting smothered with requests for interviews.
You might want to at least make one post about the substance in his message though. It would give you a bit more credibility and you wouldn't come off as such a monumentally obvious CIG shill.
Actually, this is about Derek Smart because Derek Smart made it about him and his obvious drive to be a 'leader' of the small minority of backers that agree with him. I'm here to discuss the demands and the misleading (seemingly on purpose) comments and perspective Derek Smart has claimed, all while he is trying to remind people he's an authority on this stuff. Since he wants the spotlight on him, and he wants people to know what's going on with Star Citizen (which is based upon his 'instincts' and his 'sources', mind you, he seems to imply he has sources in the FTC too), then that's what he is going to get.
If you don't want to have these discussions then don't participate in them.
I have:
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/436844/Does-Star-Citizen-have-a-lack-of-capable-software-engineers.html
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/436814/Derek-Smarts-New-List-of-Demands.html
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/436781/Analysis-of-Backer-Demands.html
You guys just don't want to consider any of it. You want to dodge it, then go back to 'well his message is true'. What message? That there should be more accountability and transparency? Perhaps, more transparency, but you can't hold someone accountable for a mistake that you 'think' may have occurred or may be occurring... we may as well make thoughts a crime too.
Transparency, perhaps, but not to the degree that Derek Smart is 'demanding' they be. I mean, if CIG ever agreed to bring in a backer hired forensic accountant or a backer hired independent executive producer you know damn well that Derek Smart would then try to push his own connections. If you don't use his he'll cry foul, and have a new list of demands.
I'm here to try and reason with people to point to how Derek Smart is the extreme in in all this. He's trying to rile people up.
I mean, are we suppose to now support his message (demand) that calls for Chris Roberts to resign?
That's odd. I didn't hear about this whole rodeo until after CIG on their forums called out DS from his blog posts and refunded/returned his KS money.
Same ole same ole, new thread, new thread, same ole same ole.
Writing a TOS and/or NDA for a backer hired forensic accountant is hard and yet another BS smokescreen which as already been discussed, not to your liking of course.
Edit:
My crap typing.
Well, I didn't even know that Star Citizen was selling ships at this point. I knew about Star Citizen due to the Kickstarter/Crowdfunding fame. My only interest here is the way in which Derek Smart is going about using a 'message' to push his agenda. Since this is related to Star Citizen I'm going to post about it on various forums related to Star Citizen.
I have an issue with his demands for 'legitimate', 'industry perspective' reasons. I've voiced that. Everyone is calling me a shill or CIG fanboy due to that, because I'm pointing out the flaws, poking holes in the demands, and showing how Derek Smart is latching onto 'legitimate' concerns, and then trying to pump them up into full-blown scandalous level bullcrap. I mean, people are now posting about Enron and comparing CIG to Enron...
Think about it.
I've addressed the 'promised a product and release date' numerous times. Everyone was promised at least a 'sailboat', but now that there's funding for a battleship, Derek Smart turns this into 'WE WANT OUR SAILBOAT AND NOW'.
Even if CIG decides to give everyone the sailboat, Derek Smart knows PERFECTLY well that you can't simply slap together the sailboat now. Basically, they've started the framework and engines of a battleship and it isn't simply a matter of sticking a sail on top to turn it into a sailboat now.
Why do you follow the message of someone that has a proven track record of starting flame wars; a self-admitted troll; and has never had a hit game? I mean, check out the peak user activity of Line of Defense on Steam.
This is your messenger. A 'game developer' that thinks of game engines as 'templates', which explains a lot, who has all these 'sources', but when you ask him direct questions he vanishes.
So, who gains access to that information? Derek Smart? Who's developing a competing project (even if it's a complete flop). Who picks the independent executive producer? Derek Smart. Because, we both know Derek Smart would raise a big stink if he isn't part of the process or in the know of who is hired, their findings, and being able to comb through all the details.
1. You miss the point that KS funding for the sailboat (core game) nets a sailboat (core game) not a battleship (core game).
2. I follow DS because I can, the same way I have SC as a toolbar bookmark right next to his.
3. Care less about how many people are playing games on Steam.
4. DS isn't my messenger, I have never spoken to him outside of a Steam forum post.
5. Why do you hate DS so much?
6. What has DS personally done to you?
Once again that's for lawyers to decide and could be enforced via ToS/NDA from both sides and you already know that.
1. Are you serious?
2. Gratz, I don't. I rarely get involved in anything like this unless I see what appears to be nefarious behavior going on.
3. OH, so you're well aware of his history of silencing reviewers/people that give reasonable criticism of him by banning them on Steam?
4. I don't hate anyone. I hate what DS is doing here since I know how he works; his modus operandi. I honestly think that he thinks he'll either get the project shut down or somehow take it over.
5. He's going to be doing a 'personal' thing to a lot of people if people start following his nonsense. This guy is on a 'crusade' to take out Chris Roberts. If you can't see that now then you're blind. He doesn't care that if his bullshit gains traction that a lot of people will really be out of both money and a game. He wants the FTC to investigate? WTF. You know how damaging that would be to a game development company? Not to mention cause future talent to look elsewhere? The world outside would automatically assume that Star Citizen and CIG were somehow criminals (all based upon his 'instincts' and sources; someone, you know, that os developing a competing project).
Not to mention that this 'may' fall under industrial or corporate espionage if there were sources from inside the team:
I'm here to address his demands, not the concerns of backers (which, for the most part, I agree are legitimate concerns).
Sorry, I don't tolerate witchhunts because someone appears to have a personal grudge stemming from over two decades ago. Reality is. Chris Roberts has far more talent and game development skills than Derek Smart does. Nor does Derek Smart own or is entitled to the ideas that are behind Star Citizen
So you are going on appearance just like some of the SC critics including Derek Smart are. Wonder who has more assets to "back" their appearance up, you or Derek Smart.
You are comedy gold.
@MMOGamer71: Okay, from the dozen of posts you made over the last week it is crystal clear that you do not like the way SC is heading down to and do not wan't to have nothing more with this project.
Why don't you ask for a pledge refund and be done with it?
I don't think he even pledged.
Where has Derek Smart backed up his assertions that Star Citizen is vaporware?
This will be my standard reply to you.
You are comedy gold.
Since you ignored my post above regarding your SC pledge, are you a backer with access to the game?
If he is that is hilarious, considering his posts on Chris Roberts throughout these threads, he's essentially making a case that investing in him is a bad idea. That would be like me backing a Derek Smart KS product.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson