Where you and I differ is being able to discuss this without jumping to conclusions or becoming hostile, like calling me a defender, or decrying me for supporting scammers (I've done no such thing, if you want me to man up to something it's that)... , as I've said before I am only interested in the truth, hence why I make no rush to defend nor support either side.. I have no conviction in regard to this issue, why would I?
I've also said in the other thread I don't agree with CIG using KS to back such a project and scope.
It's becoming tiresome being accused of shit I'm not doing. You're either so blinded by rage you can't even see who is saying what. Or you don't have a cause at all, you just want to start fights by pointing fingers and slinging accusations. That's not a game I wanna play.
If you don't like it, you have an easier option to avoid it than quoting me and asking for my input. Exercise that option. I will go a long way toward bringing you the relief you so desperately seek.
I only asked because I hoped you might enlighten me on something I'm not seeing, as I said in my edit, if you took the time to actually explain your stance I might even agree with it, like I do some of what you said above, at least when you weren't trying to lump me in with people endorsing scammers.
You can't even reply to a question on clarifying your stance without trying to create a rift or a fight.
That is not my intent at all. A review of my posts will show you that my intent is simply to bring across a point. To those with whom I am in agreement, I doubt they come across as creating a rift at all. To those who are not in agreement, I can see how they hit hard. What often happens is that a poster with an opposing point of view will take offense to my posts and decide they want to take pot shots. That's when things get ugly. If we stick to targeting the message and leaving the messenger out of it, we will have no problems. I am always up for a good debate.
I'm confused if what he says is true, doesn't that also show he has been bleeding cash?
Of course they're bleeding cash, they have no ongoing income, aside from those sales, hence why I said what i said about them using KS for such a project and scope. 85 million doesn't go that far with the size of their team, and the infrastructure they need.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
If they are fully funded why do they need to bring in 2 to 3 mil a month. I thought the millions they already raised funded the game unless it's an old interview.
Where you and I differ is being able to discuss this without jumping to conclusions or becoming hostile, like calling me a defender, or decrying me for supporting scammers (I've done no such thing, if you want me to man up to something it's that)... , as I've said before I am only interested in the truth, hence why I make no rush to defend nor support either side.. I have no conviction in regard to this issue, why would I?
I've also said in the other thread I don't agree with CIG using KS to back such a project and scope.
It's becoming tiresome being accused of shit I'm not doing. You're either so blinded by rage you can't even see who is saying what. Or you don't have a cause at all, you just want to start fights by pointing fingers and slinging accusations. That's not a game I wanna play.
If you don't like it, you have an easier option to avoid it than quoting me and asking for my input. Exercise that option. I will go a long way toward bringing you the relief you so desperately seek.
I only asked because I hoped you might enlighten me on something I'm not seeing, as I said in my edit, if you took the time to actually explain your stance I might even agree with it, like I do some of what you said above, at least when you weren't trying to lump me in with people endorsing scammers.
You can't even reply to a question on clarifying your stance without trying to create a rift or a fight.
That is not my intent at all. A review of my posts will show you that my intent is simply to bring across a point. To those with whom I am in agreement, I doubt they come across as creating a rift at all. To those who are not in agreement, I can see how they hit hard. What often happens is that a poster with an opposing point of view will take offense to my posts and decide they want to take pot shots. That's when things get ugly. If we stick to targeting the message and leaving the messenger out of it, we will have no problems. I am always up for a good debate.
I was referring to lumping me in with supporting scamming... how am I supposed to see that? That's no better than being a scammer myself in my eyes... Your views are another matter entirely and have no part in what I just said..
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Where you and I differ is being able to discuss this without jumping to conclusions or becoming hostile, like calling me a defender, or decrying me for supporting scammers (I've done no such thing, if you want me to man up to something it's that)... , as I've said before I am only interested in the truth, hence why I make no rush to defend nor support either side.. I have no conviction in regard to this issue, why would I?
I've also said in the other thread I don't agree with CIG using KS to back such a project and scope.
It's becoming tiresome being accused of shit I'm not doing. You're either so blinded by rage you can't even see who is saying what. Or you don't have a cause at all, you just want to start fights by pointing fingers and slinging accusations. That's not a game I wanna play.
If you don't like it, you have an easier option to avoid it than quoting me and asking for my input. Exercise that option. I will go a long way toward bringing you the relief you so desperately seek.
I only asked because I hoped you might enlighten me on something I'm not seeing, as I said in my edit, if you took the time to actually explain your stance I might even agree with it, like I do some of what you said above, at least when you weren't trying to lump me in with people endorsing scammers.
You can't even reply to a question on clarifying your stance without trying to create a rift or a fight.
That is not my intent at all. A review of my posts will show you that my intent is simply to bring across a point. To those with whom I am in agreement, I doubt they come across as creating a rift at all. To those who are not in agreement, I can see how they hit hard. What often happens is that a poster with an opposing point of view will take offense to my posts and decide they want to take pot shots. That's when things get ugly. If we stick to targeting the message and leaving the messenger out of it, we will have no problems. I am always up for a good debate.
I was referring to lumping me in with supporting scamming... how am I supposed to see that? That's no better than being a scammer myself in my eyes... Your views are another matter entirely and have no part in what I just said..
Don't take it so personal, Distopia. I was talking in general terms, not about you in specific. Maybe one of these days we will agree on a topic and you will see me in a different light. Or we can hope.
If they are fully funded why do they need to bring in 2 to 3 mil a month. I thought the millions they already raised funded the game unless it's an old interview.
I'd take it to mean fully funded got them to where they needed to be in terms of team size, equipment, support staff etc... that still doesn't lead to money coming in to support ongoing development, mismanagement of funds is another possibility. Either way while nearly 90mil is a lot of money, it doesn't mean it was enough to pull off what they're trying to make.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
There is a disturbing similarity between what they are doing and a ponzi scheme in that if the cash flow dries up in both processes, the whole thing goes down the drain. Shouldn't that alone tell it all? It's odd that he would even admit something like that. In other words, keep sending me money or it's game over. I don't see how this doesn't concern some of you. It raises all kinds of flags.
There is a disturbing similarity between what they are doing and a ponzi scheme in that if the cash flow dries up in both processes, the whole thing goes down the drain. Shouldn't that alone tell it all? It's odd that he would even admit something like that. In other words, keep sending me money or it's game over. I don't see how this doesn't concern some of you. It raises all kinds of flags.
If they are fully funded why do they need to bring in 2 to 3 mil a month. I thought the millions they already raised funded the game unless it's an old interview.
End of august 2015 was the interview.
The point you bring up is the issue here. If they brought in all this money based on stretch goals then that money is accounted for and should be used for said stretch goal which would mean the base game has all money allocated for it as well. But if he is admitting if they arent bringing in a couple mil a month then layoffs happen, then what the hell happened to the money they raised?
They even stopped adding stretch goals but kept selling ships so really at this point Chris Roberts should be swimming in a pool of money like Scrooge McDuck because if they have any idea of how to manage their finances then they shouldn't have to let anyone go because "oops we didn't take in 2 million this month, time to lay off people"
Don't take it so personal, Distopia. I was talking in general terms, not about you in specific. Maybe one of these days we will agree on a topic and you will see me in a different light. Or we can hope.
Fair enough, next time you wanna speak in general terms though.. try not to respond to someone like " you and the others" less confusion that way.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I'm still surprised to this date that cash shops and P2W are shouted on (Or worse) every second but when a company is selling ships (The only "vehicles" in the game) in alpha it's fine.
Some background on the SC way of doing things (the "infamous selling ships" thing):
No one forces you to buy anything but the most basic pledge package (and therefore ship). If you want access NOW for testing, its 54 bucks. Less if you can wait for the final game. Even less if you wait for an X-Mas special (last year it was available for as low as 25 bucks).
There are often free-fly weeks were you can try out for free one or more ships (different from the ship you have in your pledge package).
If you as a backer participate in playtesting you get an in game currency called REC that lets you try out other ships and ship modules of your choice for a certain time. No real world money is needed for that.
If you are a subscriber-backer (for a voluntary monthly fee) you get hundredthousands of those REC as an added bonus beside access to the "Jump Point" magazine and other things ... so you can really test just about anything you like from a list of dozens of ships and ship variants (and the list keeps growing). The donations of the subscribers make additional info shows a la "10 for the Chairman" and dev talks possible.
You CAN spend real world money if you want for additional ships ... but you do not have to.
And there is NOTHING that can only be bought with real world cash. EVERYTHING can be earned in game after launch day, without need for real world cash. Its one of the Star Citizen design principles. There is no premium ammo, no "exclusive cash shop only ships" etc.
The KS was originally supposed to raise enough money to enable CR to complete the game.
They hit the KS target with money to spare, yet there is no complete game.
This is about the time that a white knight or two will pop up and drag out the "scope of the game changed" and "CR is giving backers what they want" and "the game now is not the same game that was advertised for the KS" arguments as if it makes everything perfectly fine, and anyone raising questions about the money is wrong.
A creative person is motivated by the desire to achieve, not the desire to beat others.
Don't take it so personal, Distopia. I was talking in general terms, not about you in specific. Maybe one of these days we will agree on a topic and you will see me in a different light. Or we can hope.
Fair enough, next time you wanna speak in general terms though.. try not to respond to someone like " you and the others" less confusion that way.
How about I just respond in my post in the manner I feel like responding and you respond in your posts the way you feel like responding? If I ever feel like I need your input as to how to respond in my post I'll make sure to ask your opinion.
The KS was originally supposed to raise enough money to enable CR to complete the game.
They hit the KS target with money to spare, yet there is no complete game.
This is about the time that a white knight or two will pop up and drag out the "scope of the game changed" and "CR is giving backers what they want" and "the game now is not the same game that was advertised for the KS" arguments as if it makes everything perfectly fine, and anyone raising questions about the money is wrong.
Apparently there isn't even an alpha. If there was he wouldn't be writing letters attacking journalists and DS.
If they are fully funded why do they need to bring in 2 to 3 mil a month. I thought the millions they already raised funded the game unless it's an old interview.
End of august 2015 was the interview.
The point you bring up is the issue here. If they brought in all this money based on stretch goals then that money is accounted for and should be used for said stretch goal which would mean the base game has all money allocated for it as well. But if he is admitting if they arent bringing in a couple mil a month then layoffs happen, then what the hell happened to the money they raised?
They even stopped adding stretch goals but kept selling ships so really at this point Chris Roberts should be swimming in a pool of money like Scrooge McDuck because if they have any idea of how to manage their finances then they shouldn't have to let anyone go because "oops we didn't take in 2 million this month, time to lay off people"
I do have to agree with most of this, it seems that CR is mishandling the funds in some sense, you can't formulate your end-game on the fly as money comes in, it's gotta be set in stone otherwise you end up in a situation where you have a bunch of ideas, yet no real plan to execute them in a timely manner or cohesively.
This is why projects like Wasteland 2 and D:OS or POE were successful, it's also why Elite saw the light of day in a timely manner, proper scope and a plan to execute it. They weren't sitting around twiddling their thumbs after the money came in figuring out a way to deliver all the promises they made.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Don't take it so personal, Distopia. I was talking in general terms, not about you in specific. Maybe one of these days we will agree on a topic and you will see me in a different light. Or we can hope.
Fair enough, next time you wanna speak in general terms though.. try not to respond to someone like " you and the others" less confusion that way.
How about I just respond in my post in the manner I feel like responding and you respond in your posts the way you feel like responding? If I ever feel like I need your input as to how to respond in my post I'll make sure to ask your opinion.
But I thought we just made up
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Wow. That letter is absolutely absurd. There was absolutely nothing wrong with the article, and Roberts was indeed given a chance to respond. Predictably, he responded with nothing but personal attacks and vague statements.
I love how the Star Citizen Defense Forces, as well as Roberts himself, continue to draw Derek Smart into this when it's been proven he had NOTHING to do with the article in question. Absolutely laughable, and the ridiculous responses and threats by Roberts come off as a child throwing a temper tantrum. Even more laughable is that people still defend him. You could practically change his name to Jason Appleton at this point.
No, Lizzy's career isn't ruined. Merely saying something stupid like that shows just how out of touch with reality you are. And if you're going to make allegations that the story was 'shopped around', back it up with something. Oh wait, you can't. Boo hoo.
Oh, and just because you don't see a badge on pictures doesn't meant they don't exist. Almost every company, especially one which might be subject to entry attempts by competitors, journalists, or anyone else has a corporate ID badge of some sort. I have old badges from several places of employment. A couple are wearable, but most are simply cards issued for identification purposes, as well as being used to clock in for the day.
The whole Escapist article was absurd! It was pure slander against Chris Roberts with zero facts that could be backed up with evidence in any way!
I have been laid off myself twice in last 5 years due to downsizing and restructuring. This happens all the time. And while I am angry I got laid off, after having worked my ass off the last year on projects with lots of overtime and been dumped with a lousy severance package.... I have no need to vent my frustration into the public and slander my former employer in public.
I just move on and find another job! /shrug
And if you think Derek Smart isn't behind this, then you truly are utterly naïve.
No, I really don't think he is. He got the ball rolling, but the only one keeping it going is Roberts with his absurd personal attacks and responses. Had he merely ignored Smart's personal blog instead of panicking and going into full damage control, this wouldn't even be an issue right now. Instead, he's now resorting to Jason Appleton type tactics and threatening to sue everybody.
I agree that there were few actual facts in that article. Good thing they were never presented as such. Throughout the entire thing it was made crystal clear that any and all information came from former employees who had contacted The Escapist and wished to remain anonymous, most likely due to the fact that they would be blacklisted within the industry for speaking out. I will also point out that Roberts has done himself no favors reacting the way he has, and in fact has given credence to what was said about his temper and his narcissism.
Oh, and just because you have no desire to speak out against former employers in public, doesn't mean other people don't. Plus I'm sure the fact that they allegedly saw abuse and mismanagement of moneygiven to Roberts and CIG in good faith played a part in their decision to tell somebody what was going on.
Yes, I admit to siding against Roberts and CIG in this matter. My bias is quite clear. However, I choose to do so because of Roberts' ridiculous and unprofessional responses regarding this matter. He's the one who escalated it, he's the one who continues to keep it in the limelight, and he's the one who refuses to end it by simply accounting for the money he's received, which is all that was wanted in the first place. Instead he's in full panic and damage control mode. Can you honestly say that isn't the slightest bit suspicious?
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If they are fully funded why do they need to bring in 2 to 3 mil a month. I thought the millions they already raised funded the game unless it's an old interview.
End of august 2015 was the interview.
The point you bring up is the issue here. If they brought in all this money based on stretch goals then that money is accounted for and should be used for said stretch goal which would mean the base game has all money allocated for it as well. But if he is admitting if they arent bringing in a couple mil a month then layoffs happen, then what the hell happened to the money they raised?
They even stopped adding stretch goals but kept selling ships so really at this point Chris Roberts should be swimming in a pool of money like Scrooge McDuck because if they have any idea of how to manage their finances then they shouldn't have to let anyone go because "oops we didn't take in 2 million this month, time to lay off people"
I do have to agree with most of this, it seems that CR is mishandling the funds in some sense, you can't formulate your end-game on the fly as money comes in, it's gotta be set in stone otherwise you end up in a situation where you have a bunch of ideas, yet no real plan to execute them in a timely manner or cohesively.
This is why projects like Wasteland 2 and D:OS or POE were successful, it's also why Elite saw the light of day in a timely manner, proper scope and a plan to execute it. They weren't sitting around twiddling their thumbs after the money came in figuring out a way to deliver all the promises they made.
As someone said on another thread this one? where needing new money just to keep the train running after you've already achieved what you said and agreed to that you needed kinda does sound like a Ponzi scheme. Perhaps he misspoke? the guy obviously doesn't filter what he says when he writes perhaps the same hold true verbally?
Slightly off topic but I've been wondering about something. If CIG had taken that 95 mil and then just made the smaller scope game as originally intended couldn't that also be construed as fraudulent behavior?
"Here's your game as promised." "Wait this is all we get?" "What do you mean? This is what we promised." "But we gave you 95 million fucking dollars!" "Well we only ASKED for 2 million, so don't blame us if you guys decided to keep making it rain money."
Someone did a space sim like that already recently. Doing it the CIG way is so much more original and unique.
Slightly off topic but I've been wondering about something. If CIG had taken that 95 mil and then just made the smaller scope game as originally intended couldn't that also be construed as fraudulent behavior?
"Here's your game as promised." "Wait this is all we get?" "What do you mean? This is what we promised." "But we gave you 95 million fucking dollars!" "Well we only ASKED for 2 million, so don't blame us if you guys decided to keep making it rain money."
Haha, I guess if I was the scamming type that's what I would have done. 93 mill to split between 20 odd people? lol.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Yes, I admit to siding against Roberts and CIG in this matter. My bias is quite clear. However, I choose to do so because of Roberts' ridiculous and unprofessional responses regarding this matter. He's the one who escalated it, he's the one who continues to keep it in the limelight, and he's the one who refuses to end it by simply accounting for the money he's received, which is all that was wanted in the first place. Instead he's in full panic and damage control mode. Can you honestly say that isn't the slightest bit suspicious?
he doesn't have to show records of the money. it's not a publicly owned company. and why should he? just because people think he is mismanaging it?
I'm still surprised to this date that cash shops and P2W are shouted on (Or worse) every second but when a company is selling ships (The only "vehicles" in the game) in alpha it's fine.
Some background on the SC way of doing things (the "infamous selling ships" thing):
No one forces you to buy anything but the most basic pledge package (and therefore ship). If you want access NOW for testing, its 54 bucks. Less if you can wait for the final game. Even less if you wait for an X-Mas special (last year it was available for as low as 25 bucks).
There are often free-fly weeks were you can try out for free one or more ships (different from the ship you have in your pledge package).
If you as a backer participate in playtesting you get an in game currency called REC that lets you try out other ships and ship modules of your choice for a certain time. No real world money is needed for that.
If you are a subscriber-backer (for a voluntary monthly fee) you get hundredthousands of those REC as an added bonus beside access to the "Jump Point" magazine and other things ... so you can really test just about anything you like from a list of dozens of ships and ship variants (and the list keeps growing). The donations of the subscribers make additional info shows a la "10 for the Chairman" and dev talks possible.
You CAN spend real world money if you want for additional ships ... but you do not have to.
And there is NOTHING that can only be bought with real world cash. EVERYTHING can be earned in game after launch day, without need for real world cash. Its one of the Star Citizen design principles. There is no premium ammo, no "exclusive cash shop only ships" etc.
Have fun
Being acquirable or not, we are talking about ships not costumes here. These ships ingame come with a cost, they are not free. Some will probably take weeks or more to get.
This was the same issue with ESO putting a mount for free in the collectors edition. Sure, you can get the same mount (?) ingame, however the first horse costs 11k gold. You DON'T get that amount of money in an hour, it will take you a bit considering you are just starting and will also want to spend gold in other things like inventory expansions and such.
Pay to Win or Pay to Advance Quicker It's still paying to get a big boost early on regardless how you reword it.
Yes, I admit to siding against Roberts and CIG in this matter. My bias is quite clear. However, I choose to do so because of Roberts' ridiculous and unprofessional responses regarding this matter. He's the one who escalated it, he's the one who continues to keep it in the limelight, and he's the one who refuses to end it by simply accounting for the money he's received, which is all that was wanted in the first place. Instead he's in full panic and damage control mode. Can you honestly say that isn't the slightest bit suspicious?
he doesn't have to show records of the money. it's not a publicly owned company. and why should he? just because people think he is mismanaging it?
He is clearly mishandling the funds. He handles this like a Hollywood movie project because he is still in denial that he is not a Movie Producer and failed miserably. I mean can it be even more obvious than:
“So I cast it like I did my movies. It’s acted like the movies. We have the full performance capture, we’re pushing the tech as much as possible.” - Chris Roberts
Hiring THE BEST MoCap studio in Hollywood when others would have sufficed.
Opening 4 Studios all over the world when one Studio would be more than enough. Even if Austin was the $11 Million stretch goal, it's not necessary!
Partnership with the Turbulent Web Developer focusing on an online sales platform for bringing in more funds instead of putting that money into development of the game.
Marrying an unsuccessful actress and employing her in a high paid position to further her acting career. Actually that is just really sad but it fits the Theme. (I bet she has a major role in the single player game)
I am a day one $30 backer myself and i would love to see a game, even if it has only the original scope. But i lost all faith when he went back to his old ways and completely over-promised and under-delivered.
"It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling." - Michael Bitton Community Manager, MMORPG.com
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law
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That is not my intent at all. A review of my posts will show you that my intent is simply to bring across a point. To those with whom I am in agreement, I doubt they come across as creating a rift at all. To those who are not in agreement, I can see how they hit hard. What often happens is that a poster with an opposing point of view will take offense to my posts and decide they want to take pot shots. That's when things get ugly. If we stick to targeting the message and leaving the messenger out of it, we will have no problems. I am always up for a good debate.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Don't take it so personal, Distopia. I was talking in general terms, not about you in specific. Maybe one of these days we will agree on a topic and you will see me in a different light. Or we can hope.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
There is a disturbing similarity between what they are doing and a ponzi scheme in that if the cash flow dries up in both processes, the whole thing goes down the drain. Shouldn't that alone tell it all? It's odd that he would even admit something like that. In other words, keep sending me money or it's game over. I don't see how this doesn't concern some of you. It raises all kinds of flags.
Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event
4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.
http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/
Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
No one forces you to buy anything but the most basic pledge package (and therefore ship). If you want access NOW for testing, its 54 bucks. Less if you can wait for the final game. Even less if you wait for an X-Mas special (last year it was available for as low as 25 bucks).
There are often free-fly weeks were you can try out for free one or more ships (different from the ship you have in your pledge package).
If you as a backer participate in playtesting you get an in game currency called REC that lets you try out other ships and ship modules of your choice for a certain time. No real world money is needed for that.
If you are a subscriber-backer (for a voluntary monthly fee) you get hundredthousands of those REC as an added bonus beside access to the "Jump Point" magazine and other things ... so you can really test just about anything you like from a list of dozens of ships and ship variants (and the list keeps growing). The donations of the subscribers make additional info shows a la "10 for the Chairman" and dev talks possible.
You CAN spend real world money if you want for additional ships ... but you do not have to.
And there is NOTHING that can only be bought with real world cash. EVERYTHING can be earned in game after launch day, without need for real world cash. Its one of the Star Citizen design principles. There is no premium ammo, no "exclusive cash shop only ships" etc.
Have fun
They hit the KS target with money to spare, yet there is no complete game.
This is about the time that a white knight or two will pop up and drag out the "scope of the game changed" and "CR is giving backers what they want" and "the game now is not the same game that was advertised for the KS" arguments as if it makes everything perfectly fine, and anyone raising questions about the money is wrong.
A creative person is motivated by the desire to achieve, not the desire to beat others.
How about I just respond in my post in the manner I feel like responding and you respond in your posts the way you feel like responding? If I ever feel like I need your input as to how to respond in my post I'll make sure to ask your opinion.
Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event
4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.
http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/
Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!
This is why projects like Wasteland 2 and D:OS or POE were successful, it's also why Elite saw the light of day in a timely manner, proper scope and a plan to execute it. They weren't sitting around twiddling their thumbs after the money came in figuring out a way to deliver all the promises they made.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I agree that there were few actual facts in that article. Good thing they were never presented as such. Throughout the entire thing it was made crystal clear that any and all information came from former employees who had contacted The Escapist and wished to remain anonymous, most likely due to the fact that they would be blacklisted within the industry for speaking out. I will also point out that Roberts has done himself no favors reacting the way he has, and in fact has given credence to what was said about his temper and his narcissism.
Oh, and just because you have no desire to speak out against former employers in public, doesn't mean other people don't. Plus I'm sure the fact that they allegedly saw abuse and mismanagement of money given to Roberts and CIG in good faith played a part in their decision to tell somebody what was going on.
Yes, I admit to siding against Roberts and CIG in this matter. My bias is quite clear. However, I choose to do so because of Roberts' ridiculous and unprofessional responses regarding this matter. He's the one who escalated it, he's the one who continues to keep it in the limelight, and he's the one who refuses to end it by simply accounting for the money he's received, which is all that was wanted in the first place. Instead he's in full panic and damage control mode. Can you honestly say that isn't the slightest bit suspicious?
AN' DERE AIN'T NO SUCH FING AS ENUFF DAKKA, YA GROT! Enuff'z more than ya got an' less than too much an' there ain't no such fing as too much dakka. Say dere is, and me Squiggoff'z eatin' tonight!
We are born of the blood. Made men by the blood. Undone by the blood. Our eyes are yet to open. FEAR THE OLD BLOOD.
#IStandWithVic
As someone said on another thread this one? where needing new money just to keep the train running after you've already achieved what you said and agreed to that you needed kinda does sound like a Ponzi scheme. Perhaps he misspoke? the guy obviously doesn't filter what he says when he writes perhaps the same hold true verbally?
Someone did a space sim like that already recently. Doing it the CIG way is so much more original and unique.
EDIT the popcorn is better anyway.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
This was the same issue with ESO putting a mount for free in the collectors edition. Sure, you can get the same mount (?) ingame, however the first horse costs 11k gold. You DON'T get that amount of money in an hour, it will take you a bit considering you are just starting and will also want to spend gold in other things like inventory expansions and such.
Pay to Win or Pay to Advance Quicker It's still paying to get a big boost early on regardless how you reword it.
By jove, I think he's got it!
/shrug
- “So I cast it like I did my movies. It’s acted like the movies. We have the full performance capture, we’re pushing the tech as much as possible.” - Chris Roberts
- Hiring THE BEST MoCap studio in Hollywood when others would have sufficed.
- Opening 4 Studios all over the world when one Studio would be more than enough. Even if Austin was the $11 Million stretch goal, it's not necessary!
- Partnership with the Turbulent Web Developer focusing on an online sales platform for bringing in more funds instead of putting that money into development of the game.
- Marrying an unsuccessful actress and employing her in a high paid position to further her acting career. Actually that is just really sad but it fits the Theme. (I bet she has a major role in the single player game)
I am a day one $30 backer myself and i would love to see a game, even if it has only the original scope. But i lost all faith when he went back to his old ways and completely over-promised and under-delivered."It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling."
- Michael Bitton
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"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law
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For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson