Under these circumstances, the last thing an entity under legal attack should do is concern themselves with rampant speculation, rumor mongering, and ad hominem attacks. By expecting a response you are asking them to repeat the same mistake that CIG/Chris Roberts has made. The Escapist are doing what CIG/Chris Roberts should have done. They are keeping their traps shut and letting their legal team handle the matter. Two responses from Chris Roberts did not stop the rampant speculation, rumor mongering, and ad hominem attacks from flying what would make you think that they will stop with a response from The Escapist?
Was there a 2nd letter from CR? or do you mean the 2 letters from CIG? Just trying to make sure I didn't miss something.
Hey good for them. One paragraph to show they weren't just hiding and hoping this would all blow over. Was that so hard guys?
It wasn't. But it also wasn't necessary.
EDIT- @MisterZebub just trollin' you here, light-heartedly of course. :pleased: I admit, I didn't expect a response at all. For the reasons I stated before. However, it does make the popcorn even tastier, considering Escapist's "raise."
Update: The Escapist, notwithstanding Cloud Imperium Games' notice and posting, stands by its coverage of Star Citizen and intends to continue to investigate the developing story. Since publishing our original stories, we have been contacted by, and are currently interviewing, additional sources corroborating a variety of the reported allegations. Additionally, if Mr. Roberts' offer for The Escapist to "meet the developers making the game and see how we're building one of the most ambitious PC games first hand" remains open, we take the opportunity to accept such invitation so as to hopefully provide the public with sufficient information and opportunity to vet such sources' allegations and claims for themselves. We have also communicated the foregoing directly to Cloud Imperium Games.
This is the raise, " and are currently interviewing, additional sources corroborating a variety of the reported allegations." merely stating we stand by reporting yada yada yada would be a call
Ah yea that would do it. Now to wait and see if it's actually true or just a counter bluff.
As someone wanting to play this game I would find it pretty awful if there's any truth to these allegations.
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
That quote has me highly anticipating the next step. Either the Escapist is hinting that the house of cards is, in fact, falling (with more employees coming forward, the crack in the dam widening to a full on structural failure), or the Escapist is being duped by what may be one of the largest conspiratorial ruses to hit non-political journalism.
As a former journalist, do you think it would have helped The Escapist overall, if they had chosen a writer without a history with a vocal opponent of the subject of the story to investigate and author the piece?
"Update:The Escapist, notwithstanding Cloud Imperium Games' notice and posting, stands by its coverage of Star Citizen and intends to continue to investigate the developing story. Since publishing our original stories, we have been contacted by, and are currently interviewing, additional sources corroborating a variety of the reported allegations. Additionally, if Mr. Roberts' offer for The Escapist to "meet the developers making the game and see how we're building one of the most ambitious PC games first hand" remains open, we take the opportunity to accept such invitation so as to hopefully provide the public with sufficient information and opportunity to vet such sources' allegations and claims for themselves. We have also communicated the foregoing directly to Cloud Imperium Games."
Well would you look at that ... there probably really is a party at Derek's place tonight! :pleased:
Doh! Sorry, sorry ... terribly sorry. This is serious business here. The plot thickens!
Fool me once...
This has me more anxious than ever.. The repercussions for crowdfunding could be huge, depending upon how this story turns out.
If it is understandable why I may have read it that way then his response carries no merit. He just injected himself into the conversation in an effort to troll and it backfired on him. Next time I trust he will think twice before trying so hard to be "witty."
Oh really?
Actually a little chuckle and an apology to Sedryn would have been classy and cool. Instead of being rude.
Back fired eh? how so?
Think twice eh?
???
....... ask for clarification. This way things won't get out of hand. Respect begets respect.
Practice what you preach?
The other guy made a flat out statement you assumed XYZ, you were wrong and went on in very poor form.
Is funny I read the article found it rather humorously written as well as informative and saw no sarcasm in the other guys comment.
Be a big boy, take foot out of mouth and move on.
That article has me even more interested on how all this is going to play out though that is for sure.
Did you even bother to read the other posts before inserting your foot in your mouth and making your own assumptions? Your point would have more merit had I been the only one who made the "assumption," but I wasn't. There were other posters who though the post was not only sarcastic but trollish as well. The fact that I wasn't the only one thinking this way lends credence to the fact that the post was misleading. If any clarification needed to be made at all, it should have been made by the writer of the post. I should not be expected to "assume" a clarification of the post no more than being expected to "assume" that it was not sarcastic. By saying that you found it funny, you are making your own assumptions that others should have found it funny as well. I did not, and obviously neither did others who responded in kind. That said ... how does that foot taste that you just stuck in your big mouth? If you learn to mind your business you wouldn't have to worry about that happening.
"Update:The Escapist, notwithstanding Cloud Imperium Games' notice and posting, stands by its coverage of Star Citizen and intends to continue to investigate the developing story. Since publishing our original stories, we have been contacted by, and are currently interviewing, additional sources corroborating a variety of the reported allegations. Additionally, if Mr. Roberts' offer for The Escapist to "meet the developers making the game and see how we're building one of the most ambitious PC games first hand" remains open, we take the opportunity to accept such invitation so as to hopefully provide the public with sufficient information and opportunity to vet such sources' allegations and claims for themselves. We have also communicated the foregoing directly to Cloud Imperium Games."
Well would you look at that ... there probably really is a party at Derek's place tonight! :pleased:
Doh! Sorry, sorry ... terribly sorry. This is serious business here. The plot thickens!
Hey man didn't Eve teach you that internet spaceships is serious business ...jeesh!
As a former journalist, do you think it would have helped The Escapist overall, if they had chosen a writer without a history with a vocal opponent of the subject of the story to investigate and author the piece?
No not with Star Citizens fans apparently you get harrassed in their own forums if you type anything negative about Star Citizen.
As a former journalist, do you think it would have helped The Escapist overall, if they had chosen a writer without a history with a vocal opponent of the subject of the story to investigate and author the piece?
No not with Star Citizens fans apparently you get harrassed in the forums if you type anything negative about Star Citizen.
So you are a former journalist as well? If not, um yah I was asking a professional for their professional opinion sorry. If so, ty for your input.
As a former journalist, do you think it would have helped The Escapist overall, if they had chosen a writer without a history with a vocal opponent of the subject of the story to investigate and author the piece?
No not with Star Citizens fans apparently you get harrassed in the forums if you type anything negative about Star Citizen.
So you are a former journalist as well? If not, um yah I was asking a professional for their professional opinion sorry. If so, ty for your input.
You don't have to know journalism to answer what i did.
I have one, big question for this.... And I guess posting @ one of the staff writers isn't enabled on the forums (I could see why)...
I wonder.. What does the staff here at MMORPG.com think about this scandal? Anything they're willing to go on record here on the forums and comment on? Just out of my morbid curiosity.
As a former journalist, do you think it would have helped The Escapist overall, if they had chosen a writer without a history with a vocal opponent of the subject of the story to investigate and author the piece?
No not with Star Citizens fans apparently you get harrassed in the forums if you type anything negative about Star Citizen.
So you are a former journalist as well? If not, um yah I was asking a professional for their professional opinion sorry. If so, ty for your input.
You don't have to know journalism to answer what i did.
I am not trying to be rude mate, but I was specifically asking someone a question based on their professional opinion. You are free to have an opinion but if you haven't been a member of their profession you do not have a professional opinion.
I have one, big question for this.... And I guess posting @ one of the staff writers isn't enabled on the forums (I could see why)...
I wonder.. What does the staff here at MMORPG.com think about this scandal? Anything they're willing to go on record here on the forums and comment on? Just out of my morbid curiosity.
I have one, big question for this.... And I guess posting @ one of the staff writers isn't enabled on the forums (I could see why)...
I wonder.. What does the staff here at MMORPG.com think about this scandal? Anything they're willing to go on record here on the forums and comment on? Just out of my morbid curiosity.
Bill all but called it a hit piece in his video
Ahh, haven't watched that particular video. Mind passing me a link please, sir?
I have one, big question for this.... And I guess posting @ one of the staff writers isn't enabled on the forums (I could see why)...
I wonder.. What does the staff here at MMORPG.com think about this scandal? Anything they're willing to go on record here on the forums and comment on? Just out of my morbid curiosity.
Bill all but called it a hit piece in his video
Ahh, haven't watched that particular video. Mind passing me a link please, sir?
As a former journalist, do you think it would have helped The Escapist overall, if they had chosen a writer without a history with a vocal opponent of the subject of the story to investigate and author the piece?
No not with Star Citizens fans apparently you get harrassed in the forums if you type anything negative about Star Citizen.
So you are a former journalist as well? If not, um yah I was asking a professional for their professional opinion sorry. If so, ty for your input.
You don't have to know journalism to answer what i did.
I am not trying to be rude mate, but I was specifically asking someone a question based on their professional opinion. You are free to have an opinion but if you haven't been a member of their profession you do not have a professional opinion.
Understand what i wrote, you must be able too if worked or still work as a journalist, As the mindset of some of Star Citizen fans have no i don't think they would of responded differently, only thing they wouldn't of been able to do is say this article as been set up by Derek Smart
They would of still tried to discredit the article like they have been doing.
As a former journalist, do you think it would have helped The Escapist overall, if they had chosen a writer without a history with a vocal opponent of the subject of the story to investigate and author the piece?
No not with Star Citizens fans apparently you get harrassed in the forums if you type anything negative about Star Citizen.
So you are a former journalist as well? If not, um yah I was asking a professional for their professional opinion sorry. If so, ty for your input.
You don't have to know journalism to answer what i did.
I am not trying to be rude mate, but I was specifically asking someone a question based on their professional opinion. You are free to have an opinion but if you haven't been a member of their profession you do not have a professional opinion.
Understand what i wrote, you must be able too if worked or still work as a journalist, As the mindset of some of Star Citizen fans have no i don't think they would of responded differently, only thing they wouldn't of been able to do is say this article as been set up by Derek Smart
/sigh... Again I was asking a trained professional for their opinion as I am interested in what they think.
Thanks again for your opinion. Now if you can't understand that you, as well as I, lack the training to have the specific insights that a professional speaking about their field would have I can't really think what else to say.
I have one, big question for this.... And I guess posting @ one of the staff writers isn't enabled on the forums (I could see why)...
I wonder.. What does the staff here at MMORPG.com think about this scandal? Anything they're willing to go on record here on the forums and comment on? Just out of my morbid curiosity.
Of of course its not as they know we cheeky monkeys would @bomb the fuck out of them for shits and giggles.
I literally typed @BillMurphy (And holy shit it just started working as I'm typing this post), and no results came up...
Ummm.... Soo... Now that it is working... This is awkward... L-Let the bombing commence??
As a former journalist, do you think it would have helped The Escapist overall, if they had chosen a writer without a history with a vocal opponent of the subject of the story to investigate and author the piece?
No not with Star Citizens fans apparently you get harrassed in the forums if you type anything negative about Star Citizen.
So you are a former journalist as well? If not, um yah I was asking a professional for their professional opinion sorry. If so, ty for your input.
You don't have to know journalism to answer what i did.
I am not trying to be rude mate, but I was specifically asking someone a question based on their professional opinion. You are free to have an opinion but if you haven't been a member of their profession you do not have a professional opinion.
Understand what i wrote, you must be able too if worked or still work as a journalist, As the mindset of some of Star Citizen fans have no i don't think they would of responded differently, only thing they wouldn't of been able to do is say this article as been set up by Derek Smart
/sigh... Again I was asking a trained professional for their opinion as I am interested in what they think.
Thanks again for your opinion. Now if you can't understand that you, as well as I, lack the training to have the specific insights that a professional speaking about their field would have I can't really think what else to say.
Sorry wrong forum it's a gaming forum not one for journalists.
Trying to tell people who and should not be replying to comments.
If you don't want random people replying to your comments i think a forum is the wrong place to post.
Comments
Just trying to make sure I didn't miss something.
EDIT- @MisterZebub just trollin' you here, light-heartedly of course. :pleased: I admit, I didn't expect a response at all. For the reasons I stated before. However, it does make the popcorn even tastier, considering Escapist's "raise."
As someone wanting to play this game I would find it pretty awful if there's any truth to these allegations.
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
This has me more anxious than ever.. The repercussions for crowdfunding could be huge, depending upon how this story turns out.
Did you even bother to read the other posts before inserting your foot in your mouth and making your own assumptions? Your point would have more merit had I been the only one who made the "assumption," but I wasn't. There were other posters who though the post was not only sarcastic but trollish as well. The fact that I wasn't the only one thinking this way lends credence to the fact that the post was misleading. If any clarification needed to be made at all, it should have been made by the writer of the post. I should not be expected to "assume" a clarification of the post no more than being expected to "assume" that it was not sarcastic. By saying that you found it funny, you are making your own assumptions that others should have found it funny as well. I did not, and obviously neither did others who responded in kind. That said ... how does that foot taste that you just stuck in your big mouth? If you learn to mind your business you wouldn't have to worry about that happening.
A tabloid would most definitely counter bluff, someone aiming higher wouldn't they would only double down like that if they had reason.
If not, um yah I was asking a professional for their professional opinion sorry.
If so, ty for your input.
I wonder.. What does the staff here at MMORPG.com think about this scandal? Anything they're willing to go on record here on the forums and comment on? Just out of my morbid curiosity.
You are free to have an opinion but if you haven't been a member of their profession you do not have a professional opinion.
Bill all but called it a hit piece in his video
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/view/videos/gameID/883/videoId/4599
They would of still tried to discredit the article like they have been doing.
Again I was asking a trained professional for their opinion as I am interested in what they think.
Thanks again for your opinion. Now if you can't understand that you, as well as I, lack the training to have the specific insights that a professional speaking about their field would have I can't really think what else to say.
Ummm.... Soo... Now that it is working... This is awkward... L-Let the bombing commence??
Trying to tell people who and should not be replying to comments.
If you don't want random people replying to your comments i think a forum is the wrong place to post.