Can't we just leave it at some people will like it, pay up the ying-yang for it, and use it and some people won't ... like, you know, everything else in life?
There is no point in debating the issue. Not everyone will like what you like and vice-versa.
No I don't think that's possible. Reason? I feel this sudden upsurge in VR interest is an intentional company driven attempt at viral marketing for a device the industry doesn't have complete confidence in
That involves a complex and elabroate web of conspiracy. its not impossible but its unlikely. Thus far the feedback from consumers has exceeded exceptions and the number of large companies getting behind the technology is skyrocketing.
You got insider information or work for any VR manufacturer since you know that feedback from consumers exceeded expectations? You must know their expectations, please share. You also seem to know the feedback of consumers, care to share that information?
Got any proof that the technology is "skyrocketing" as you say? I don't see anything "skyrocketing" since nothing is released yet.
I think that is because you arent keeping up with the details that much
...list of companies and a lot of speculation...
You did not answer my question:
You got insider information or work for any VR manufacturer since you know that feedback from consumers exceeded expectations? You must know their expectations, please share. You also seem to know the feedback of consumers, care to share that information?
Got any proof that the technology is "skyrocketing" as you say? I don't see anything "skyrocketing" since nothing is released yet.
There can't be feedback or skyrocketing when nothing is released. This is all speculation and you know as much as everyone: NOTHING.
"It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling." - Michael Bitton Community Manager, MMORPG.com
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law
"I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about." - SEANMCAD
You got insider information or work for any VR manufacturer since you know that feedback from consumers exceeded expectations? You must know their expectations, please share. You also seem to know the feedback of consumers, care to share that information?
Got any proof that the technology is "skyrocketing" as you say? I don't see anything "skyrocketing" since nothing is released yet.
oh on that question I dont have insider information I have public information that sells exceeded expectations from multiple sources but to be frank I am tired of doing homework for you and then have you ignore it like you did my post of companies being on board with VR.
You do know that Gear VR sold out TWICE...right?
and for this Conspricy to work correctly it would require all those companies to not be on board but act they are on board. Its far more important than consumer response to this whole equation
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
You got insider information or work for any VR manufacturer since you know that feedback from consumers exceeded expectations? You must know their expectations, please share. You also seem to know the feedback of consumers, care to share that information?
Got any proof that the technology is "skyrocketing" as you say? I don't see anything "skyrocketing" since nothing is released yet.
oh on that question I dont have insider information I have public information that sells exceeded expectations from multiple sources but to be frank I am tired of doing homework for you and then have you ignore it like you did my post of companies being on board with VR.
You do know that Gear VR sold out TWICE...right?
and for this Conspricy to work correctly it would require all those companies to not be on board but act they are on board. Its far more important than consumer response to this whole equation
I never asked about companies. You need to read the question. I also never asked about sales expectations.
Again you said CONSUMER FEEDBACK EXCEEDED EXPECTATIONS. You keep forgetting what you write all the time, it's very exhausting to talk to you as you seem to forget whatever you say then change it to something else.
In this case you went from:
Consumer feedback expectations to Consumer sales expectations
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What conspiracy? I never talked about any conspiracy. What are you talking about?
How about that DK2? You home yet? OR still trying to google for pictures, lmao!
"It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling." - Michael Bitton Community Manager, MMORPG.com
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law
"I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about." - SEANMCAD
You got insider information or work for any VR manufacturer since you know that feedback from consumers exceeded expectations? You must know their expectations, please share. You also seem to know the feedback of consumers, care to share that information?
Got any proof that the technology is "skyrocketing" as you say? I don't see anything "skyrocketing" since nothing is released yet.
oh on that question I dont have insider information I have public information that sells exceeded expectations from multiple sources but to be frank I am tired of doing homework for you and then have you ignore it like you did my post of companies being on board with VR.
You do know that Gear VR sold out TWICE...right?
and for this Conspricy to work correctly it would require all those companies to not be on board but act they are on board. Its far more important than consumer response to this whole equation
I never asked about companies. You need to read the question. I also never asked about sales expectations.
Again you said CONSUMER FEEDBACK EXCEEDED EXPECTATIONS. You keep forgetting what you write all the time, it's very exhausting to talk to you as you seem to forget whatever you say then change it to something else.
In this case you went from:
Consumer feedback expectations to Consumer sales expectations
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What conspiracy? I never talked about any conspiracy. What are you talking about?
How about that DK2? You home yet? OR still trying to google for pictures, lmao!
The inconvenience of a headset that get's very warm and uncomfortable after an hour is always going to be a problem. The porn industry is the only real application that will make this a big niche hit. Put it on, load up some virtual porn, have a good wank, done in 10 minutes or less. Maybe some second life type MMO for the no-lifers.
lies!
I have worn my Dk2 for many hours without it getting warm... do I want to wear it as long as I typically play a game? nope. [mod edit]
From your comments i doubt you even have a DK2. I might be wrong but let's see, shall we?
What does it say underneath the front top cover were the micro USB and HDMI are plugged in?
I cant believe I am actually doing this..
oh well..
The cover itself underneath has the letter A on it etched in. the label behind the connectors has the S/N, on the top of that label it says 'Rift DK2' DC 5V 1000mA
but thats it. no more looking up things to proove that I am not liying. Mostly because when I do post a lot of information you just dismiss it and then I find out you are not even following the thread!!!!
done.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
I would spend quiet a few bucks on Real VR. However OR and all the others are not VR they are just monitor headsets. The way these companies, news articles etc. throw the VR term around so loosely really isn't good. To me it is no different then saying I have a complete computer setup at my desk that is to die for, but in reality all I have is a fancy monitor and the rest still needs to be purchased.
The inconvenience of a headset that get's very warm and uncomfortable after an hour is always going to be a problem. The porn industry is the only real application that will make this a big niche hit. Put it on, load up some virtual porn, have a good wank, done in 10 minutes or less. Maybe some second life type MMO for the no-lifers.
lies!
I have worn my Dk2 for many hours without it getting warm... do I want to wear it as long as I typically play a game? nope. [mod edit]
From your comments i doubt you even have a DK2. I might be wrong but let's see, shall we?
What does it say underneath the front top cover were the micro USB and HDMI are plugged in?
I cant believe I am actually doing this..
oh well..
The cover itself underneath has the letter A on it etched in. the label behind the connectors has the S/N, on the top of that label it says 'Rift DK2' DC 5V 1000mA
but thats it. no more looking up things to proove that I am not liying. Mostly because when I do post a lot of information you just dismiss it and then I find out you are not even following the thread!!!!
done.
You looked up the wrong info on the internet. That is not all what it says there, sorry, nice try though.
"It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling." - Michael Bitton Community Manager, MMORPG.com
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law
"I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about." - SEANMCAD
nothing, this will flop AGAIN, they tried it before, gamers don't want to act stupid in their living rooms and wear huge helmets for hours, thats not enjoyable at all. Call me when real VR or holograms start to exist, stuff that isnt HUGE to wear, etc...
"It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling." - Michael Bitton Community Manager, MMORPG.com
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law
"I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about." - SEANMCAD
I would spend quiet a few bucks on Real VR. However OR and all the others are not VR they are just monitor headsets. The way these companies, news articles etc. throw the VR term around so loosely really isn't good. To me it is no different then saying I have a complete computer setup at my desk that is to die for, but in reality all I have is a fancy monitor and the rest still needs to be purchased.
This is kind of how I look at it, as monitor that allows me more immersion and cost less than a duo/triple projector set up and also allows me to do so in my livingroom as I do not have a dedicated "gaming room" or man cave.
Is it something that I will have on all the time, not at all but for some games I will use for sure even if not all the time, just like I am not always playing mmo/video games on my gaming pc.
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
The inconvenience of a headset that get's very warm and uncomfortable after an hour is always going to be a problem. The porn industry is the only real application that will make this a big niche hit. Put it on, load up some virtual porn, have a good wank, done in 10 minutes or less. Maybe some second life type MMO for the no-lifers.
lies!
I have worn my Dk2 for many hours without it getting warm... do I want to wear it as long as I typically play a game? nope. [mod edit]
From your comments i doubt you even have a DK2. I might be wrong but let's see, shall we?
What does it say underneath the front top cover were the micro USB and HDMI are plugged in?
I cant believe I am actually doing this..
oh well..
The cover itself underneath has the letter A on it etched in. the label behind the connectors has the S/N, on the top of that label it says 'Rift DK2' DC 5V 1000mA
but thats it. no more looking up things to proove that I am not liying. Mostly because when I do post a lot of information you just dismiss it and then I find out you are not even following the thread!!!!
done.
You looked up the wrong info on the internet. That is not all what it says there, sorry, nice try though.
its pretty clear seanmcad has no idea what hes talking about.
It has 3d tv written all over it, mark my words it will be the same. This same shit was said about that too.
perhaps. I was never intrested in 3d enough to know if that is true or not. 3D gaming to me is not nearly the same
This is kinda how a lot of us feel about VR, except you keep screaming "NO IT"S F"N GREAT GET ON BOARD OR GET THE F OUT" and throwing whatever you can to try to back that up.
We get it, your hyped. Doesn't mean your excitement or enthusiasm will convince the rest of us. In fact, I hate to admit it, but right now your making an impossible case:
Seeing is believing. I tried 3D and didn't think it was all that, so I passed on the tech. My brother loved it, he bought into it about 5 years ago, but today never uses it. Maybe when we all try VR we'll be sold, or maybe we'll continue to think it's not worth whatever (cost, inconvenience, loss of touch, available apps, whatever). Maybe your already sold and in 5 years will be in the same situation as my brother is about 3D. Or maybe it will be the next GPU and we'll all have one eventually and argue about the merits of Brand X vs Brand Y and which model to upgrade to next.
But in all of that, none of these figures and facts really play into it. It's an emotional connection that each person has to make. Your excitement may be enough to drive some people to go out and try it, but you can't make anyone like it - the tech and the apps have to do that on their own.
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Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
You got insider information or work for any VR manufacturer since you know that feedback from consumers exceeded expectations? You must know their expectations, please share. You also seem to know the feedback of consumers, care to share that information?
Got any proof that the technology is "skyrocketing" as you say? I don't see anything "skyrocketing" since nothing is released yet.
There can't be feedback or skyrocketing when nothing is released. This is all speculation and you know as much as everyone: NOTHING.
"It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling."
- Michael Bitton
Community Manager, MMORPG.com
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law
"I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about."
- SEANMCAD
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You do know that Gear VR sold out TWICE...right?
and for this Conspricy to work correctly it would require all those companies to not be on board but act they are on board. Its far more important than consumer response to this whole equation
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
Again you said CONSUMER FEEDBACK EXCEEDED EXPECTATIONS. You keep forgetting what you write all the time, it's very exhausting to talk to you as you seem to forget whatever you say then change it to something else.
In this case you went from:
Consumer feedback expectations
to
Consumer sales expectations
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What conspiracy? I never talked about any conspiracy. What are you talking about?
How about that DK2? You home yet? OR still trying to google for pictures, lmao!
"It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling."
- Michael Bitton
Community Manager, MMORPG.com
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law
"I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about."
- SEANMCAD
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I will look at my Oculus Rift in about 2 more hours....and it BETTER have that flip hood on it otherwise I know your just trolling. Then when I see it I will look up on the internet to figure out what it is.
I think it for a head mounted camera if one should want one. but like I said that flip cover better be on that device or you and I are done!
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
Nothing new about this in the tech department so dunno why you think this is some kind of dig towards VR...lol
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
oh well..
The cover itself underneath has the letter A on it etched in.
the label behind the connectors has the S/N, on the top of that label it says 'Rift DK2' DC 5V 1000mA
but thats it.
no more looking up things to proove that I am not liying. Mostly because when I do post a lot of information you just dismiss it and then I find out you are not even following the thread!!!!
done.
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"It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling."
- Michael Bitton
Community Manager, MMORPG.com
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law
"I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about."
- SEANMCAD
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I still would pay nothing
"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."
"It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling."
- Michael Bitton
Community Manager, MMORPG.com
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law
"I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about."
- SEANMCAD
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"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."
Is it something that I will have on all the time, not at all but for some games I will use for sure even if not all the time, just like I am not always playing mmo/video games on my gaming pc.
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
For anyone that needs it http://static.oculus.com/documents/health-and-safety-warnings.pdf
My doc tells me too much alcohol and other substances isn't good for you yet I still drink etc and know many others that do too.
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
See they already have it covered for adult games.
We get it, your hyped. Doesn't mean your excitement or enthusiasm will convince the rest of us. In fact, I hate to admit it, but right now your making an impossible case:
Seeing is believing. I tried 3D and didn't think it was all that, so I passed on the tech. My brother loved it, he bought into it about 5 years ago, but today never uses it. Maybe when we all try VR we'll be sold, or maybe we'll continue to think it's not worth whatever (cost, inconvenience, loss of touch, available apps, whatever). Maybe your already sold and in 5 years will be in the same situation as my brother is about 3D. Or maybe it will be the next GPU and we'll all have one eventually and argue about the merits of Brand X vs Brand Y and which model to upgrade to next.
But in all of that, none of these figures and facts really play into it. It's an emotional connection that each person has to make. Your excitement may be enough to drive some people to go out and try it, but you can't make anyone like it - the tech and the apps have to do that on their own.