This is what people really believe they're getting when they invest in Star Citizen

Adjuvant1

bartoni33 said:

Adjuvant1 said:

bartoni33 said:

Misspellings are as common as the glitching he is showing in an alpha game. 

They're intentional.

May I ask why? Or is he just 12 and thinks it's funny?

He's not 12, but if your 12yo is making vids like that, you might think about MIT.

GrumpyHobbit

Adjuvant1 said:

He's not 12, but if your 12yo is making vids like that, you might think about MIT.

Is this the MIT I am thinking of or somewhere else where adding sound to video is classified as 'genius'?

What are the entry requirements? A pulse?

Erillion

Maybe someone should tell him that the crew of a Constellation is 4 and not 23 (thats the Javelin). One pilot, two gunners, secondary pilot for the P52 Merlin snubfighter.

And that his quote of 3000 $ for a Connie is more than an order of magnitude too large.

But let me guess ... that was also "intentional". Yeah, right...... 

SA has some creative (and sometimes even funny) people ... the creator of that video is not one of them.



Have fun 

Erillion

GrumpyHobbit said:

Is this the MIT I am thinking of or somewhere else where adding sound to video is classified as 'genius'?

What are the entry requirements? A pulse?

Maybe. Because clearly a BRAIN was not required.


Have fun

Adjuvant1

GrumpyHobbit said:

Adjuvant1 said:

He's not 12, but if your 12yo is making vids like that, you might think about MIT.

Is this the MIT I am thinking of or somewhere else where adding sound to video is classified as 'genius'?

What are the entry requirements? A pulse?

Communication with a target audience is an art. In the same manner a product may increase draw with undereducated people by ending sentences with prepositions or intentionally misusing 50-cent words, a lampoon artist can illustrate the similar nature of cognition of the target of sarcasm, be that the game developers or the sycophantic fans.

They're hit pieces, like political cartoons. He does well depicting the woeful status of the project.

Adjuvant1

bartoni33 said:

BTW you didn't answer my question: Why does he intentionally misspell words? It makes his admittedly otherwise professional-looking video seem not so much.

Yes, I did.

bartoni33

Adjuvant1 said:

bartoni33 said:

BTW you didn't answer my question: Why does he intentionally misspell words? It makes his admittedly otherwise professional-looking video seem not so much.

Yes, I did.

I guess you mean this:

"Communication with a target audience is an art. In the same manner a product may increase draw with undereducated people by ending sentences with prepositions or intentionally misusing 50-cent words, a lampoon artist can illustrate the similar nature of cognition of the target of sarcasm, be that the game developers or the sycophantic fans.

They're hit pieces, like political cartoons. He does well depicting the woeful status of the project."

It seems to me that the glitchy ALPHA video would fit the second paragraph. I don't see why he would destroy the English language as well. It just makes you look stupid, not what you are lampooning.

I'm going ahead and call bullshit on that one Adjuvant1. Obvious unintentional spelling mistakes are obvious.

Arglebargle

CrazKanuk said:

Arglebargle said:

WC2 was directed and written by the main programmer for WC1.  Roberts was credited as producer, but even his own sources say he wasn't as heavily involved in it as WC1.  Privateer was done by someone else entirely. Only citation for Roberts is for 'original concept'. Privateer 2 was only named that late in production, to cash in on name recognition most likely.  Erin Roberts did that one.  

Talking to friends who worked at Origin, one of their many beefs with Roberts was him taking credit for the work of others.   Every Roberts pronouncement is intended to increase the glory of Chris Roberts.  Thus things like the Youtube videos being listed on imdb as TV productions.   

I talked to a bunch of folks who worked with him at Origin, and the stories were not pretty.

That's actually the point I was getting at. I don't think that CR has ever been a nuts and bolts guy. Like he's not solely responsible for the success of this product, or whatever else he's been on. I'm not, really, aware of anything where he was, what I would consider, "heavily" involved. I can't even say how heavily involved he is with SC. I've heard of some of the Origin stories, but what I've heard has sounded more like stories of a spoiled child. Ultimately, that shouldn't affect a project, though. He has great concepts. Maybe his ego isn't in check, I don't know. Can't say. Don't know him. However, I wouldn't say that his ego is the driving force behind why SC is late. Also, I wouldn't say that there are many people his equal who I've heard of being humble. 

Okay, I think we agree on a lot of points there.  Though I'm not so believing in the 'Roberts Genius'.   The impression I've gotten is that he comes up with grand ideas that have no grounding in what's possible with the tech that's available.   Sometimes the ideas work, sometimes they are just not possible.  But time will get wasted trying to get impossible things done.  Or even things that don't add much to the game, but have become fixations. 

Oh, and the micromanagement.  And the sycophants.  The leaked letter said that Roberts had no sense of scale.   Something like the look of the bootlaces were as important as the ships working in the game.  Not a guy you want as the final arbiter.   The SC fans' most fervent hope should be that Erin Roberts gets more influence and power in the project.  That, and supreme patience.

Xeno.phon

Arglebargle said:

CrazKanuk said:

Arglebargle said:

WC2 was directed and written by the main programmer for WC1.  Roberts was credited as producer, but even his own sources say he wasn't as heavily involved in it as WC1.  Privateer was done by someone else entirely. Only citation for Roberts is for 'original concept'. Privateer 2 was only named that late in production, to cash in on name recognition most likely.  Erin Roberts did that one.  

Talking to friends who worked at Origin, one of their many beefs with Roberts was him taking credit for the work of others.   Every Roberts pronouncement is intended to increase the glory of Chris Roberts.  Thus things like the Youtube videos being listed on imdb as TV productions.   

I talked to a bunch of folks who worked with him at Origin, and the stories were not pretty.

Ego run the very planet, its not like it is an uncommon trait in the industry, let alone all of society. Now the other end of this polarized subject however is a bit diff. That person has little to no accomplishments and has been tracked harassing others for his  entire career. Now going so far as to actively kill a persons career out of pure spite.

If Roberts and Smart are the generals of 2 opposing armies, I pick Roberts any day. At least he is just an egomaniac. I wont go into what the other guy is, seeing as the mods demand roses, rainbows and unicorns to cover up the real world on these forums and dont seem to have any respect for freedom of speech.

Adjuvant1

Xeno.phon said:

If Roberts and Smart are the generals of 2 opposing armies, I pick Roberts any day.

That's really how you see this, isn't it. You think people who disagree with CIG practices are all on the same team against you.

Adjuvant1

Eh, well, if I start plastering $1000+ backer negative comments all over, it would just be, "those are just impatient children who don't understand game development", or some other dumb reddit argument.

GrumpyHobbit

Personally I have know about Chris Roberts almost my entire gaming life. He has been there, done it and has the accolades under his belt to show he has a very successful career in the industry. 

Derek Smart I have no clue who he is or why he is even involved in the same conversations but everything I read about him speak to me of a very unpleasant person. What has he done or achieved to even warrant taking seriously? 

Erillion

GrumpyHobbit said:

 What has he done or achieved to even warrant taking seriously? 

Gotten his own entry in the Encyclopeidia Dramatica  (the data collection about the worst internet trolls ever)

https://encyclopediadramatica.se/index.php?title=Derek_Smart&diff=prev&oldid=270625

"Encyclopedia Dramatica is an online open-content humor and satire source, with the aims of being the ultimate compendium of internet parody..."


Have fun

Adjuvant1

GrumpyHobbit said:

Personally I have know about Chris Roberts almost my entire gaming life. He has been there, done it and has the accolades under his belt to show he has a very successful career in the industry. 

Been where and done what, exactly? To which games, and how much, do you believe he actually contributed? I won't mess with you about it, I'd just like to know exactly what you think he's done.

GrumpyHobbit

LOL just looked him up and his list of games.....never heard of any of them. 

Sounds like the guys is a bitter, jealous wannabe.

Kefo

Erillion said:

GrumpyHobbit said:

 What has he done or achieved to even warrant taking seriously? 

Gotten his own entry in the Encyclopeidia Dramatica  (the data collection about the worst internet trolls ever)

https://encyclopediadramatica.se/index.php?title=Derek_Smart&diff=prev&oldid=270625

"Encyclopedia Dramatica is an online open-content humor and satire source, with the aims of being the ultimate compendium of internet parody..."


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Give it time and you will most likely see CR's own page.

Erillion

Kefo said:

Give it time and you will most likely see CR's own page.

He already has plenty .... just not on Encyclopeidia Dramatica ... but hey, its a WIKI .. you can start one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Roberts_(game_developer)

http://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,6555

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0730932/


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Kefo

Erillion said:

Kefo said:

Give it time and you will most likely see CR's own page.

He already has plenty .... just not on Encyclopeidia Dramatica ... but hey, its a WIKI .. you can start one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Roberts_(game_developer)

http://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,6555

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0730932/


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You know I meant encyclopedia dramatica. And lol at his IMDb page. Half the world is a producer if YouTube videos are to be taken seriously

n3v3rriv3r

Erillion said:

n3v3rriv3r said:

It was not necessary to post your picture here. Thats against the Geneva Conventions!

Some things simply cannot be unseen.


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Lol dont be mad ..  have fun

Shodanas

Erillion said:

n3v3rriv3r said:

It was not necessary to post your picture here. Thats against the Geneva Conventions!

Some things simply cannot be unseen.


Have fun

It's sad, seeing persons sinking this low. I mean, really low.

I would report him mate.

n3v3rriv3r

It's sad, seeing persons sinking this low. I mean, really low.

I would report him mate.

Reporting me for what? Posting a cheerleader picture? So quick to take offense are we .. or maybe it is some kind of truth hidden behind that picture?

Brenics

Shodanas said:

Erillion said:

n3v3rriv3r said:

It was not necessary to post your picture here. Thats against the Geneva Conventions!

Some things simply cannot be unseen.


Have fun

It's sad, seeing persons sinking this low. I mean, really low.

I would report him mate.

ROFL, and no one on the CR attack team doesn't do stuff like that. They can dish it out but can't take it when shoe on other foot. :-D

Its called humor you should embrace it. 

GrumpyHobbit

Adjuvant1 said:

GrumpyHobbit said:

Personally I have know about Chris Roberts almost my entire gaming life. He has been there, done it and has the accolades under his belt to show he has a very successful career in the industry. 

Been where and done what, exactly? To which games, and how much, do you believe he actually contributed? I won't mess with you about it, I'd just like to know exactly what you think he's done.

Unless you can provide proof otherwise then I will just accept his resume that the industry accepts. 

So going on how the industry seems to view both these guys you have CR who has been associated with many great games and DS who has not. 

Even if I didn't accept the opinion of his peers I can have an opinion based on my own experiences growing up. 

Tell me, which games do you personally remember playing while growing up that CR was associated with and that DS was associated with. Wing commander and freelancer I remember playing and loved. I have never even heard of any of the games by DS. 

Again, DE sounds like a bitter, jealous wannabe.

Erillion

Brenics said:

Shodanas said:

Erillion said:

n3v3rriv3r said:

It was not necessary to post your picture here. Thats against the Geneva Conventions!

Some things simply cannot be unseen.


Have fun

It's sad, seeing persons sinking this low. I mean, really low.

I would report him mate.

ROFL, and no one on the CR attack team doesn't do stuff like that. They can dish it out but can't take it when shoe on other foot. :-D

Its called humor you should embrace it. 

NO NO NO

I DO NOT WANT TO KNOW WHAT  @n3v3rriv3r LOOKS LIKE !

MAKE THE PAIN STOP !  ;-)


Have fun

n3v3rriv3r

Brenics said:

Shodanas said:

Erillion said:

It was not necessary to post your picture here. Thats against the Geneva Conventions!

Some things simply cannot be unseen.


Have fun

It's sad, seeing persons sinking this low. I mean, really low.

I would report him mate.

ROFL, and no one on the CR attack team doesn't do stuff like that. They can dish it out but can't take it when shoe on other foot. :-D

Its called humor you should embrace it. 

  Well I thought it was all in good humor since he posted a link to encyclopediadramatica. Are we not on the same page here?  You know, if you make fun of others you should be able to take some jokes about yourself also.