I already uninstalled ( outfitting system)

Zadawn

 How comes people are not complaining about the outfitting system? It's absolutely awful and unacceptable for any character to look like a peasant all the way to 50 and then too unless they pay for cash shop outfits.

 I start , I do my killing quests out in the field and loot a helm only to find out it doesn't display even though I have checked Head Part in the inventory menu. I go on the forums, ask whether that's a bug or not ,only to be told that unless it's cash shop armor, it won't be displayed on your character.

 I like the simple armour designs and whatnot but wearing the same rags forever is not cool.
 
 This might be too much of a restriction even for a f2p game let alone a b2p game.
 

Lobotomist

Ok, you are actually first to talk about this. Combined with outrages prices that are reported in shop.
Its virtually extortion, fitting very immoral F2P. But certainly not B2P title

Glad i didnt buy it.


I only dont understand why nobody that buy and play game didnt deem its worth to talk about it or warn others.

vanderghast

if this is the case, i wish i could get a refund.

MikePaladin

BDO is another trash MMO I'm glad I didn't waste my moneys on it . Again as I did with other mmos...Now I focused On Black Death every thing else on radar is just trash sadly

Elsabolts

I Am enjoying it, very good game.

Phry

Well thats a new one, people complaining about there being cosmetic items in a cash shop instead of magic swords and their like O.o

While the game may be B2P it still has to generate revenue, in that sense its much the same as a F2P or P2P MMO.
Personally i dont have a problem with it, its something that is present in some of the games i already play the best example being SW:TOR, the cash shop there is heavily laden with cosmetic items, even the gamble boxes are more about trying to gain rare cosmetic items than anything else.
As long as the cash shop is about cosmetic gear, then thats fine, and i have no doubt at all, that people will buy into it, because oddly enough, players do care about how they look in the game.

tet666

Phry said:

Well thats a new one, people complaining about there being cosmetic items in a cash shop instead of magic swords and their like O.o

While the game may be B2P it still has to generate revenue, in that sense its much the same as a F2P or P2P MMO.
Personally i dont have a problem with it, its something that is present in some of the games i already play the best example being SW:TOR, the cash shop there is heavily laden with cosmetic items, even the gamble boxes are more about trying to gain rare cosmetic items than anything else.
As long as the cash shop is about cosmetic gear, then thats fine, and i have no doubt at all, that people will buy into it, because oddly enough, players do care about how they look in the game.

They are complaining because cosmetic items are ONLY in the cash shop and no where else which is a first.
There is nothing to defend here they could have a healthy armor selection in game and still sell cash shop cosmetics there is only one reason to do this: Greed.

Mikeha

Awesome, 

The fat needs to be trimmed. 

Elevenb4

Yeah, I wish I had know this too. I'm running around, finally get a few items and every one I tried on doesn't display. I was pretty pissed. I wish I hadn't bought it either. 

Essedarius

What so just to confirm, you can't change the way your characters gear looks without buying different items? Even if you're equipping loot that dropped in game?

derfritz

Lobotomist said:

Ok, you are actually first to talk about this. Combined with outrages prices that are reported in shop.
Its virtually extortion, fitting very immoral F2P. But certainly not B2P title

Glad i didnt buy it.


I only dont understand why nobody that buy and play game didnt deem its worth to talk about it or warn others.

Probably because the pro's easily outweight the cons but as someone who's loving the game I agree that the outfitting system is a big turn off... they really have to fix it or at least introduce some better looking ingame armours

Zadawn

Essedarius said:

What so just to confirm, you can't change the way your characters gear looks without buying different items? Even if you're equipping loot that dropped in game?

Exactly.

derfritz

Essedarius said:

What so just to confirm, you can't change the way your characters gear looks without buying different items? Even if you're equipping loot that dropped in game?

Ingame gear does make your character change... it's just not much like mostly chest plates or armplates and there's barely any decent ingame sets for you to wear. In short the best costumes are cash shop only mind a few class exceptions that have decent ingame outfits without the cash shop

Mikeha

DMKano said:

Recore said:

Awesome, 

The fat needs to be trimmed. 

Instead of acknowledging this as an issue, let's bury our heads in the sand and blame the op for stating the obvious problem.

Bravo

Daum screwed up in this case, they have a ton of costumes in korean version already, they just need to adjust the game because of B2P and include some costume availability in game.

Keeping the same f2p model in a B2P release is just poor planning in this regard.

How is it an issue? 

An issue is not being able to log on. Or getting stuck in a wall and not being able to move.

If you dont like the way the game is designed then simply dont play. 


Again, 

When ArcheAge launched and it had REAL issues you were not talking like this. 

cheyane

If this is the worse thing about this game then they have done quite a good job. Treat it like a subscription game and pay for an outfit every now and then. Is that so hard ? If the game is good enough why not support it. Having said that though perhaps they can throw in some variety in outfits or allow the basic ones to be dyed.

derfritz

cheyane said:

If this is the worse thing about this game then they have done quite a good job. Treat it like a subscription game and pay for an outfit every now and then. Is that so hard ? If the game is good enough why not support it. Having said that though perhaps they can throw in some variety in outfits or allow the basic ones to be dyed.

Nowadays if the game has 50 positive aspects and only 1 negative aspect, everyone will always focus on that 1 negative aspects... people want everything to be perfect and end up ignoring all the good parts of a game because of one single detail that they disliked... kinda gotten used to that kind of thinking despite hating it

nationalcity

Bye Felicia

Of all the things to nitpick, your missing out....

Zadawn

cheyane said:

If this is the worse thing about this game then they have done quite a good job. Treat it like a subscription game and pay for an outfit every now and then. Is that so hard ? If the game is good enough why not support it. Having said that though perhaps they can throw in some variety in outfits or allow the basic ones to be dyed.

A sub doesn't usually go for 30$ and up. Also maybe I want some variety throughout the month which means I have to pay 30$ more than once.


I don't really care anymore since I trashed the  game already. If this is the system the mmo community accepts nowadays then so be it.

Andistotle

Zadawn said:

 How comes people are not complaining about the outfitting system? It's absolutely awful and unacceptable for any character to look like a peasant all the way to 50 and then too unless they pay for cash shop outfits.

 I start , I do my killing quests out in the field and loot a helm only to find out it doesn't display even though I have checked Head Part in the inventory menu. I go on the forums, ask whether that's a bug or not ,only to be told that unless it's cash shop armor, it won't be displayed on your character.

 I like the simple armour designs and whatnot but wearing the same rags forever is not cool.
 
 This might be too much of a restriction even for a f2p game let alone a b2p game.
 

You can make your outfit standout by using the very detailed and amazing dye system.

I dont have any problems with the armor issue. Sure, it would have been better if BDO was a subscription game and everything could be earned ingame, but thats not gonna happen. That timeperiod is over.

Avanah

Lobotomist said:

Ok, you are actually first to talk about this. Combined with outrages prices that are reported in shop.
Its virtually extortion, fitting very immoral F2P. But certainly not B2P title

Glad i didnt buy it.


I only dont understand why nobody that buy and play game didnt deem its worth to talk about it or warn others.

I warned a few times in Hypes and Posts. I tried it in Beta and never bought it. People don't believe in "I told you so" so I won't say it. Let them get mad. LOL

klash2def

Game is otherwise awesome. I think the way they handle the cash shop/armor system will have change eventually. op is not first person to quit the game because of not being able to look how they want. Voice acting is bad (blame localization) and i hate the way they handle the cash shop but the game has many more layers than just those things. The sandbox mmo part is very well done. Maybe the best sandbox mmo since ultima online. Seriously.

For those curious the game is a mix of Dragon's Dogma, Archeage (if executed better) and Ultima, A hint of Dark Souls especially for the melee classes. You can do anything from being a farmer, deep sea fisherman, horse breeder, shipwright etc. If they fix the cs/armor issues (they prob will at least attempt))  we could be talking about an all time great port from the east. 

Yes the cs is an issue because there are items that give advantage and also the prices are insane. I wouldn't mind if i had not invested my hard earned cash already into a founders pack.. this is a p2w tactic not b2p so it feels like an insult with the prices. I get they need to make revenue but locking the BEST looking armor in game and DYES (one time use per item) behind a massive paywall is a problem.

 Awesome sandbox mmo with loads of potential but they need to change the cs asap. 

Edit: If dyes are going to be 10.00 they better be permanent reusable dyes. Give us more armor choices as we level/craft. 

Lobotomist

Sorry guys. But if they coin this game as B2P. It should be expected to get full featured game for the money.

I dont know how is it in Korea, but in west MMO players expect that you can visually modify character, and that armors actually display when equipped.

This is part of the game.

If they make such important part of the game Cash Shop only - than I didnt get full featured game.

Its basically F2P game that asks you to plop 30$ in front.


And for matters to be even worse, even F2P games dont go to such greedy lengths to block all cosmetic changes to Cash Shop. (and with hefty prices as well ... I remember few days ago someone posted costumes cost more than 20$)

In short. Disgusting practices.

Herase

derfritz said:

cheyane said:

If this is the worse thing about this game then they have done quite a good job. Treat it like a subscription game and pay for an outfit every now and then. Is that so hard ? If the game is good enough why not support it. Having said that though perhaps they can throw in some variety in outfits or allow the basic ones to be dyed.

Nowadays if the game has 50 positive aspects and only 1 negative aspect, everyone will always focus on that 1 negative aspects... people want everything to be perfect and end up ignoring all the good parts of a game because of one single detail that they disliked... kinda gotten used to that kind of thinking despite hating it

100% agree with that, it's a shame tbh, people slating a decent game for dead over something quite small and then people wounder why there are not many decent games about

While saying that, it would be nice to get more in-game customization around outfits, but it's not a massive issue imho. Think instead of coming here and saying "I Quit" should have raised it in the forums in a constructive way, tbh might do it myself.

H0urg1ass

How in the world has this game been discussed to death on this forum, and no one has bothered to mention this before?

So you're really stuck in your starter clothes unless you buy an outfit from the cash shop?  That's some sneaky underhanded shit.  You buy a game for 30-50 bucks, you expect to have that level of character customization right off the bat.

ElRenmazuo

I actually changed my mind about buying it, was hyped before and during beta but not so much anymore.  Plus I dont care about fishing and stuff, its like a game filled with nothing but mini-games.  In the end I've just been thinking about The Division anyway, that game I know I like.  I'm just gonna spend my Black Desert money on a single player game, probably Xenoblade Chronicles X

I might play Black Desert when it goes free to play and has the Blader class.

Zadawn

Herase said:

derfritz said:

cheyane said:

If this is the worse thing about this game then they have done quite a good job. Treat it like a subscription game and pay for an outfit every now and then. Is that so hard ? If the game is good enough why not support it. Having said that though perhaps they can throw in some variety in outfits or allow the basic ones to be dyed.

Nowadays if the game has 50 positive aspects and only 1 negative aspect, everyone will always focus on that 1 negative aspects... people want everything to be perfect and end up ignoring all the good parts of a game because of one single detail that they disliked... kinda gotten used to that kind of thinking despite hating it

100% agree with that, it's a shame tbh, people slating a decent game for dead over something quite small and then people wounder why there are not many decent games about

While saying that, it would be nice to get more in-game customization around outfits, but it's not a massive issue imho. Think instead of coming here and saying "I Quit" should have raised it in the forums in a constructive way, tbh might do it myself.

It might be something small for you. For me being able to change my character's look through gear upgrades is among the biggest things I look for in an mmorpg. If I can't enjoy the look of the main thing on my screen then I don't know why I would play.