You seem to be terrible at inferring. Get in line with those people that tell ME what I THINK ;-)
I have fought with Goons. And more. I have fought against Goons. For almost 10 years now. Go ahead, tell me something about the Goons ;-) I do not have to parrot, i have first hand experience over a decade and multiple games.
There are some good people there. There are some total assholes there too. I do not care for the later. Amongst the former are some creative artists that created some great propaganda stuff in EVE. Sadly none of them seem to work on Star Citizen related stuff since that "Goonrathi War" video almost 2.5 years ago.
Most of all i know that Goons / SA / 4chan love to metagame. They chose certain games or internet projects and try to turn them upside down. Wether its Tay the Microsoft AI, EVE Online or Star Citizen. They worship freedom. Especially of speech/expression.
But many of them overlook that their freedom ends where someone else's freedom starts. Freedom is traditionally understood as independence of the arbitrary will of another.
I find it ironic that freedom fighters force their will on others (e.g. in Star Citizen by camping the spawn area in earlier SC builds and killing indiscriminately through suicide attacks).
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Is this part of the "non-consensual pvp" crowd rhetoric, then? The punchline of your missive being, "flagrant use of game mechanics in an alpha/tech demo"?
So we are back where have started. A multi-million dollar company is letting less than 100 people from an internet comedy forum control their actions by putting up an NDA or fanboys think so little of CIG that they think it can be true.
Either way is extremely amusing.
If you think 100 nameless morons are unable to do harm using the internet you are very naive.
And NDA's has been in place for longer then I have been alive and are used for very sound and practical business reasons.
Your comments are the amusing part of this thread.
Hey, don't look at me.
I am not the one saying CIG is putting up NDA's because less than 100 people from an internet comedy forum might make fun of it.
So we are back where have started. A multi-million dollar company is letting less than 100 people from an internet comedy forum control their actions by putting up an NDA or fanboys think so little of CIG that they think it can be true.
Either way is extremely amusing.
If you think 100 nameless morons are unable to do harm using the internet you are very naive.
And NDA's has been in place for longer then I have been alive and are used for very sound and practical business reasons.
Your comments are the amusing part of this thread.
Hey, don't look at me.
I am not the one saying CIG is putting up NDA's because less than 100 people from an internet comedy forum might make fun of it.
What is wrong with that though?
If you know there might be a problem you do something about it.
If CIG suspect there are a bunch of losers on the internet trying to put them out of business by portraying a game in development in a bad light simply for shits and giggles then I say more power to CIG and fuck the Goons for being pricks.
It isn't news that the Goons are arseholes so why even bother giving them ammunition that they will pervert to their own agenda?
You seem to be terrible at inferring. Get in line with those people that tell ME what I THINK ;-)
If anyone says anything about the stuff you write it's because you have written it, not them. You want to judge people like Smart by his actions and words but seem to have a problem when the tables are turned.
I find people ridiculous that believe they know (and write down in a forum) what i THINK ...
Uh huh, sure thing Erilion. Are you trying to say that the things you write are not your thoughts, because that would be a weird thing to do. Are you writing somebody else's thoughts or are you perhaps making the thoughts up, like pretending?
You seem to be terrible at inferring. Get in line with those people that tell ME what I THINK ;-)
If anyone says anything about the stuff you write it's because you have written it, not them. You want to judge people like Smart by his actions and words but seem to have a problem when the tables are turned.
I find people ridiculous that believe they know (and write down in a forum) what i THINK ...
Psychological projection at its finest ....
Have fun
Right, because when you type, you're communicating what others think.
Now, see, that does not make sense. I, at least, hope it's not true. It's what you think they think. We read what each other thinks. I thought we had that down in the base semantics of communication.
edit: Are you mad because you think I think you think poorly?
To be honest that DS ELE post is very disappointing. Two weeks build up and no pay off... Meh!
I must say I totally agree. He just repeated the same old crap he has been saying. The Major Tom videos provide me much more entertainment than Derek recently.
"Sean (Murray) saying MP will be in the game is not remotely close to evidence that at the point of purchase people thought there was MP in the game." - SEANMCAD
From the context am I to understand he is no longer a "completionist backer", or did he spend so much to CIG, that in part of his settlement, he retained a completionist package, with some above amount returned?
It's interesting, because if CIG is allowing Australian whales to back out, UK and other parts of the EU might very much be next.
edit: oops, link messed up or something. Scroll up to Brown Hornet.
Hey i'm just happy the video's will still be coming. So all good to me, oh and Erillion taking tracker code out of video's is actually pretty easy.
NDA is there because it is causing the money scam to start slowing down. I just hope the gaming sites start looking in and start asking the real questions and asking to go in and see how far the actually product is. BBC never seen it and all backers should be asking why.
Lol @ELE and everyone who still takes DS serious. Just ridiculous... I knew he would spill the same shit but somehow I expected something worth noticing. Something that would justify his ELE announcement but instead...
(After reading, the only ELE I've seen this week is LOD getting booted off steam.)"
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user "CreauxTeeRhobat" writes:
"If you look at the fsa.gov.uk link, it instructs that the FSA is now defunct, having split into two different entities."
Have fun
Once again you tell an untruth about DS. How can anyone take you serious if you keep telling untruths?
We had a thread closed because you lied and here you do it again. Why do you keep doing it and what other things have you posted that isn't true?
Where is Erillion lying? He posted/quoted something he found on Reddit.
Where is the lie? Where is ELE? Where are the 11 people only waiting for the paycheck or where are his sources?
ELE is:
"We’re hearing rumors that [the Financial Services Authority] were apparently over there recently when Erin Roberts was here in the US, and Chris Roberts was over in the UK. It could be anything, or nothing – or false. It’s a developing story that I’m following"
Thats it... no mass extinction level. Only rumors.
that the reason for removing the LoD subforum was the lack of activity in that forum. I remembered incorrectly that TheSmarty has requested this removal.
"Once they made it personal, they triggered my autism spectrum and penchant for never – ever – letting go of a bone"
At least he never tried to sell me a digital in-game asset years and years before the game was ever released.
"The simple is the seal of the true and beauty is the splendor of truth" -Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar Authored 139 missions in VendettaOnline and 6 tracks in Distance
"Once they made it personal, they triggered my autism spectrum and penchant for never – ever – letting go of a bone"
At least he never tried to sell me a digital in-game asset years and years before the game was ever released.
May I point out that you incorrectly quoted above.
You would have to ask the question "What's your excuse" to the author of the text you quoted above. His name is "AlgoMalissimo".
And "selling digital in game assets years before a game" is an inherent part of video game crowdfunding. And backing such a crowdfunding project is entirely voluntary ....
Maybe if LD was trolled so much then DS wouldn't be - if I understand correctly - requesting it be taken of Steam since (almost) no one plays it. Just think if there had been some: DS has sold people a game but is now trying to shut it down posts people might have checked it out.
As it is the troll posts are doing a good job keeping SC in the limelight on this site and - maybe - pointing people to the "non-existent" alpha that is out there.
Which, as I said above, is not being discussed. Brenics raised the question last month and the question was simply drowned out. And this month? Nope to busy trolling. Either way the truth is out there.
"Once they made it personal, they triggered my autism spectrum and penchant for never – ever – letting go of a bone"
At least he never tried to sell me a digital in-game asset years and years before the game was ever released.
Not true. He totally did try to sell you a digital in-game asset. Take a look at the various levels of the Tactical Advancement Kit. So it's really one and the same, just one person does the selling part better than the other. Someone will ultimately deliver better than the other, too, but neither has delivered yet, so it's up in the air.
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I am not the one saying CIG is putting up NDA's because less than 100 people from an internet comedy forum might make fun of it.
Original - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3748466&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=4551#post462019951 (paywall)
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-07-15-through-gritted-teeth-star-citizen-developer-gives-player-whopping-usd2500-refund
CIG is sued by Crytek
https://www.polygon.com/2017/12/14/16776300/crytek-star-citizen-lawsuit-cig-rsi
EX-Backer StreetRoller sues Chris Roberts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojx7VcbowYQ
If you know there might be a problem you do something about it.
If CIG suspect there are a bunch of losers on the internet trying to put them out of business by portraying a game in development in a bad light simply for shits and giggles then I say more power to CIG and fuck the Goons for being pricks.
It isn't news that the Goons are arseholes so why even bother giving them ammunition that they will pervert to their own agenda?
I find people ridiculous that believe they know (and write down in a forum) what i THINK ...
Psychological projection at its finest ....
Have fun
Are you trying to say that the things you write are not your thoughts, because that would be a weird thing to do. Are you writing somebody else's thoughts or are you perhaps making the thoughts up, like pretending?
Have fun
Now, see, that does not make sense. I, at least, hope it's not true. It's what you think they think. We read what each other thinks. I thought we had that down in the base semantics of communication.
edit: Are you mad because you think I think you think poorly?
TONIGHT will be very interesting.
Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event
4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.
http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/
Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!
https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/6540844/#Comment_6540844
From the context am I to understand he is no longer a "completionist backer", or did he spend so much to CIG, that in part of his settlement, he retained a completionist package, with some above amount returned?
It's interesting, because if CIG is allowing Australian whales to back out, UK and other parts of the EU might very much be next.
edit: oops, link messed up or something. Scroll up to Brown Hornet.
Have fun
NDA is there because it is causing the money scam to start slowing down. I just hope the gaming sites start looking in and start asking the real questions and asking to go in and see how far the actually product is. BBC never seen it and all backers should be asking why.
Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event
4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.
http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/
Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!
https://www.reddit.com/r/DerekSmart/comments/4egspq/blog_is_up/
especially this information from a poster named "AlgoMalissimo":
"So, the fake FTC investigation is now succeed by a fake FSA investigation?
PS. Hey Derek.. here are the financials they didn't file....
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08703814
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08815227
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08882924
DUMBASS.
(After reading, the only ELE I've seen this week is LOD getting booted off steam.)"and
user "CreauxTeeRhobat" writes:
"If you look at the fsa.gov.uk link, it instructs that the FSA is now defunct, having split into two different entities."
Have fun
We had a thread closed because you lied and here you do it again. Why do you keep doing it and what other things have you posted that isn't true?
Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event
4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.
http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/
Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!
Where is the lie? Where is ELE? Where are the 11 people only waiting for the paycheck or where are his sources?
ELE is:
"We’re hearing rumors that [the Financial Services Authority] were apparently over there recently when Erin Roberts was here in the US, and Chris Roberts was over in the UK. It could be anything, or nothing – or false. It’s a developing story that I’m following"
Thats it... no mass extinction level. Only rumors.
And the information on the Line of Defense E.L.E. event in this thread:
http://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/449089/line-of-defense-bye-bye-steam/p1
is still valid. As is the information that the mmorpg.com subforum on Line of Defense was once active
https://web.archive.org/web/20150302135110/http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/570/view/forums/forum/1098/General-Discussion.html
and now no longer is
http://forums.mmorpg.com/discussions/tagged/line-of-defense
I stand corrected by MikeB
http://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/449089/line-of-defense-bye-bye-steam#latest
that the reason for removing the LoD subforum was the lack of activity in that forum. I remembered incorrectly that TheSmarty has requested this removal.
Have fun
What is an untruth? The discussion happened, it's not an untruth. Once again, ignore facts.... cool though.
BTW, if they were to close every SC thread, do you think that it would impact anything, information-wise? Nope! Just same circular arguments!!!
Edit: Actually, screw it, flagging to be closed due to useless arguments..... yes, even useless in the context of the Internet.
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He was not booted off steam. You guys failed to read what Erillion wrote?
Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event
4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.
http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/
Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!
"Once they made it personal, they triggered my autism spectrum and penchant for never – ever – letting go of a bone"
At least he never tried to sell me a digital in-game asset years and years before the game was ever released.
"The simple is the seal of the true and beauty is the splendor of truth" -Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar
Authored 139 missions in Vendetta Online and 6 tracks in Distance
You would have to ask the question "What's your excuse" to the author of the text you quoted above. His name is "AlgoMalissimo".
And "selling digital in game assets years before a game" is an inherent part of video game crowdfunding. And backing such a crowdfunding project is entirely voluntary ....
Have fun
As it is the troll posts are doing a good job keeping SC in the limelight on this site and - maybe - pointing people to the "non-existent" alpha that is out there.
Which, as I said above, is not being discussed. Brenics raised the question last month and the question was simply drowned out. And this month? Nope to busy trolling. Either way the truth is out there.
Not true. He totally did try to sell you a digital in-game asset. Take a look at the various levels of the Tactical Advancement Kit. So it's really one and the same, just one person does the selling part better than the other. Someone will ultimately deliver better than the other, too, but neither has delivered yet, so it's up in the air.
Crazkanuk
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Durnzig - 90 Paladin - Emerald
Demonicron - 90 Death Knight - Emerald Dream - US
Tankinpain - 90 Monk - Azjol-Nerub - US
Brindell - 90 Warrior - Emerald Dream - US
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