Microsoft as a hardware maker of phones like apple business is offically over

SEANMCAD

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/05/19/microsoft-finally-waves-the-white-flag-on-smartpho.aspx

according to this article.

Today's announcement essentially slams the door on Windows becoming a viable third smartphone ecosystem.

Microsoft sells its remaining smartphone business

According to a report from The Verge, Microsoft is selling its feature-phone business to a division of Chinese manufacturer Foxconn for $350 million.

My Perspective: Many people suggested when Steve Balamer left that Nokia should be sold or the sell canceled (which is was not possible) and also that the entire Xbox division be sold as well. 

Dakeru

Microsoft hasn't officially thrown in the towel on its Windows Phone OS. The company specifically mentioned it would continue to develop the operating system, and to support phones currently using the operating system which are manufactured by Microsoft and its hardware partners.

gervaise1

Better link:

http://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-says-it-s-fully-committed-to-keeping-windows-10-mobile-alive-504238.shtml


but as to what "Mobile First" means - yeah.

SEANMCAD

Microsoft Finally Waves the White Flag on Smartphones

according to the linked article

Dakeru

SEANMCAD said:

Microsoft Finally Waves the White Flag on Smartphones

according to the linked article

You mean an article that used a click bait title to get as many readers as possible?

gervaise1

Dakeru said:

SEANMCAD said:

Microsoft Finally Waves the White Flag on Smartphones

according to the linked article

You mean an article that used a click bait title to get as many readers as possible?

Nod. Why I posted the better link.

SEANMCAD

Dakeru said:

SEANMCAD said:

Microsoft Finally Waves the White Flag on Smartphones

according to the linked article

You mean an article that used a click bait title to get as many readers as possible?

all articles are saying they are selling off mobile shit and given they are barely even in the market in the first place I think the title of said article I linked sounds about right

Dakeru

SEANMCAD said:

Dakeru said:

SEANMCAD said:

Microsoft Finally Waves the White Flag on Smartphones

according to the linked article

You mean an article that used a click bait title to get as many readers as possible?

all articles are saying they are selling off mobile shit and given they are barely even in the market in the first place I think the title of said article I linked sounds about right

No
The article that @gervaise1  linked says it a whole lot better than the click bait article.
They will no longer try to compete with the big guys but they will keep the Lumia alive.

Saying it's "officially dead" is clickbait - the official statement and the things we can expect is:

A Microsoft spokesperson has also reiterated ..... “continue to develop Windows 10 for mobile devices,” once again a hint that the company has a different plan for the long term.

And this plan could pretty much come down to the Surface Phone, a long-awaited highly premium device that would be designed by the same team that built the Surface tablet.

You should read the articles you link and not just the headlines.

cheyane

I stuck to my android as I was never convinced that a windows phone would be better than my android. Guess it was the right thing to do.

SEANMCAD

Dakeru said:

SEANMCAD said:

Dakeru said:

SEANMCAD said:

Microsoft Finally Waves the White Flag on Smartphones

according to the linked article

You mean an article that used a click bait title to get as many readers as possible?

all articles are saying they are selling off mobile shit and given they are barely even in the market in the first place I think the title of said article I linked sounds about right

No
The article that @gervaise1  linked says it a whole lot better than the click bait article.
They will no longer try to compete with the big guys but they will keep the Lumia alive.

Saying it's "officially dead" is clickbait - the official statement and the things we can expect is:

A Microsoft spokesperson has also reiterated ..... “continue to develop Windows 10 for mobile devices,” once again a hint that the company has a different plan for the long term.

And this plan could pretty much come down to the Surface Phone, a long-awaited highly premium device that would be designed by the same team that built the Surface tablet.

You should read the articles you link and not just the headlines.

lol...

of course they are developing windows 10 for mobile devices.

that isnt realted to their phone hardware business...to funny.

they are making windows 10 for tablets and for an option for other phone manufacturers to install.

yeah thanks for illustrating that it helps me solidify my OP.

SEANMCAD

DirtyDozen said:

I think it's important to know the difference between "feature phone" and "smartphone".

I wonder what this means

Microsoft sells its remaining smartphone business

as in the word 'remaining'

Dullahan

They should sell it all, windows phones are crap.

How sad is it that you can easily transfer stuff back and forth over a network with iphones and android phones, but you can't have that same functionality with a windows phone on a network of windows computers...

CrazKanuk

Good news!! 

Honestly, that was Blackberry's achilles heel, they thought they were a hardware developer. MS would be better off working with proper hardware developers in order to increase distribution. Smart move. 

Nephaerius

http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/microsoft-surface-mobile-phone-news/

They're not pulling out of the smartphone business at all. Their whole goal is to have a unified platform so that wouldn't even make sense. They're planning to do the same thing there they've done with tablets. All they did was sell their feature phone business.

SEANMCAD

Nephaerius said:

http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/microsoft-surface-mobile-phone-news/

They're not pulling out of the smartphone business at all. Their whole goal is to have a unified platform so that wouldn't even make sense. They're planning to do the same thing there they've done with tablets. All they did was sell their feature phone business.

Windows Phone isn't technically dead, but...

Microsoft hasn't officially thrown in the towel on its Windows Phone OS. The company specifically mentioned it would continue to develop the operating system, and to support phones currently using the operating system which are manufactured by Microsoft and its hardware partners.

However, the company continues to move away from former CEO Steve Ballmer's strategy of being a hardware and software firm like Apple. New CEO Satya Nadella has redefined the idea of "mobile-first" by working to profit from all mobile devices, not just the units his company manufactured.

Lobotomist

Dakeru said:

Microsoft hasn't officially thrown in the towel on its Windows Phone OS. The company specifically mentioned it would continue to develop the operating system, and to support phones currently using the operating system which are manufactured by Microsoft and its hardware partners.

It often surprises me how naive people are. Especially when they believe such press releases at face value.

What do you think Microsoft will say ?

"We are now abandoning windows phone that we sold to millions of people around the world two years ago. All their overpriced phones will now be useless"

And than prepare for biggest legal shitstorm when millions of people sue them.



No. Ofcourse nobody is that dumb.


Everyone knows that when they say they will continue support. What they really mean is : We will keep skeleton crew keeping the system functional until people stop using our phones. So that nobody will sue us.

Nephaerius

SEANMCAD said:

Nephaerius said:

http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/microsoft-surface-mobile-phone-news/

They're not pulling out of the smartphone business at all. Their whole goal is to have a unified platform so that wouldn't even make sense. They're planning to do the same thing there they've done with tablets. All they did was sell their feature phone business.

Windows Phone isn't technically dead, but...

Microsoft hasn't officially thrown in the towel on its Windows Phone OS. The company specifically mentioned it would continue to develop the operating system, and to support phones currently using the operating system which are manufactured by Microsoft and its hardware partners.

However, the company continues to move away from former CEO Steve Ballmer's strategy of being a hardware and software firm like Apple. New CEO Satya Nadella has redefined the idea of "mobile-first" by working to profit from all mobile devices, not just the units his company manufactured.

Think whatever you want but the Surface Mobile is definitely coming out. 

http://www.windowscentral.com/surface-phone-slated-april-2017

SEANMCAD

Nephaerius said:

SEANMCAD said:

Nephaerius said:

http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/microsoft-surface-mobile-phone-news/

They're not pulling out of the smartphone business at all. Their whole goal is to have a unified platform so that wouldn't even make sense. They're planning to do the same thing there they've done with tablets. All they did was sell their feature phone business.

Windows Phone isn't technically dead, but...

Microsoft hasn't officially thrown in the towel on its Windows Phone OS. The company specifically mentioned it would continue to develop the operating system, and to support phones currently using the operating system which are manufactured by Microsoft and its hardware partners.

However, the company continues to move away from former CEO Steve Ballmer's strategy of being a hardware and software firm like Apple. New CEO Satya Nadella has redefined the idea of "mobile-first" by working to profit from all mobile devices, not just the units his company manufactured.

Think whatever you want but the Surface Mobile is definitely coming out. 

http://www.windowscentral.com/surface-phone-slated-april-2017

at least according to the artilce: 'Surface Phone or not, Microsoft is in the process of exiting the smartphone business.' I think the point being Microsoft hardware mobile isnt going to be very large, not large enough (in my view) to put it in the slogon of Microsofts mission statement if one is going in the opposite direction of expansion.

aka. they also still sell kinect's

Nephaerius

SEANMCAD said:

Nephaerius said:

SEANMCAD said:

Nephaerius said:

http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/microsoft-surface-mobile-phone-news/

They're not pulling out of the smartphone business at all. Their whole goal is to have a unified platform so that wouldn't even make sense. They're planning to do the same thing there they've done with tablets. All they did was sell their feature phone business.

Windows Phone isn't technically dead, but...

Microsoft hasn't officially thrown in the towel on its Windows Phone OS. The company specifically mentioned it would continue to develop the operating system, and to support phones currently using the operating system which are manufactured by Microsoft and its hardware partners.

However, the company continues to move away from former CEO Steve Ballmer's strategy of being a hardware and software firm like Apple. New CEO Satya Nadella has redefined the idea of "mobile-first" by working to profit from all mobile devices, not just the units his company manufactured.

Think whatever you want but the Surface Mobile is definitely coming out. 

http://www.windowscentral.com/surface-phone-slated-april-2017

at least according to the artilce: 'Surface Phone or not, Microsoft is in the process of exiting the smartphone business.' I think the point being Microsoft hardware mobile isnt going to be very large, not large enough (in my view) to put it in the slogon of Microsofts mission statement if one is going in the opposite direction of expansion.

aka. they also still sell kinect's

Their language is because they don't view them as "smart phones." They just look at them as mobile PC's. The Surface Mobile has 8GB of RAM....

SEANMCAD

Nephaerius said:

SEANMCAD said:

Nephaerius said:

SEANMCAD said:

Nephaerius said:

http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/microsoft-surface-mobile-phone-news/

They're not pulling out of the smartphone business at all. Their whole goal is to have a unified platform so that wouldn't even make sense. They're planning to do the same thing there they've done with tablets. All they did was sell their feature phone business.

Windows Phone isn't technically dead, but...

Microsoft hasn't officially thrown in the towel on its Windows Phone OS. The company specifically mentioned it would continue to develop the operating system, and to support phones currently using the operating system which are manufactured by Microsoft and its hardware partners.

However, the company continues to move away from former CEO Steve Ballmer's strategy of being a hardware and software firm like Apple. New CEO Satya Nadella has redefined the idea of "mobile-first" by working to profit from all mobile devices, not just the units his company manufactured.

Think whatever you want but the Surface Mobile is definitely coming out. 

http://www.windowscentral.com/surface-phone-slated-april-2017

at least according to the artilce: 'Surface Phone or not, Microsoft is in the process of exiting the smartphone business.' I think the point being Microsoft hardware mobile isnt going to be very large, not large enough (in my view) to put it in the slogon of Microsofts mission statement if one is going in the opposite direction of expansion.

aka. they also still sell kinect's

Their language is because they don't view them as "smart phones." They just look at them as mobile PC's. The Surface Mobile has 8GB of RAM....

microsoft sells kinect's but in their mission statement they do not say 'and kinects first'

how many of thise Surface mobile whatevers are people really going to buy? 1?

the core of the article is saying Microsoft as a HARDWARE MANUFACTURER in the vein of Apple, Steve Ballamers vision and even the desire of the new CEO isnt going to happen

SEANMCAD

I changed the OP title

Tasslehoff35

Dakeru said:

SEANMCAD said:

Microsoft Finally Waves the White Flag on Smartphones

according to the linked article

You mean an article that used a click bait title to get as many readers as possible?

That's all he post.  And when people post links to prove him wrong he will scream and cry like a little baby saying those links don't exist even if they are in the comment he is replying to...it's his MO

SEANMCAD

Tasslehoff35 said:

Dakeru said:

SEANMCAD said:

Microsoft Finally Waves the White Flag on Smartphones

according to the linked article

You mean an article that used a click bait title to get as many readers as possible?

That's all he post.  And when people post links to prove him wrong he will scream and cry like a little baby saying those links don't exist even if they are in the comment he is replying to...it's his MO

lol...he said literally below my comment of 

'I changed the OP'

Hariken

cheyane said:

I stuck to my android as I was never convinced that a windows phone would be better than my android. Guess it was the right thing to do.

I learned this lesson from the the Zune player. Anyone remember the Zune?

SEANMCAD

Hariken said:

cheyane said:

I stuck to my android as I was never convinced that a windows phone would be better than my android. Guess it was the right thing to do.

I learned this lesson from the the Zune player. Anyone remember the Zune?

I do.

It lasted about 1/2 a year.
Microsoft has a very good track record with Business solutions. Consumer solutions? they fail A LOT. Bing, MSN, Zune

Tasslehoff35

Sean buddy you really need to pick up your game here.   Microsoft is currently approaching a record stock price.  It's kinda sad watching you fail on an epic scale with your little one man crusade against Microsoft.