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The MVP will launch around January. *my opinion* *redacted*

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  • filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906
    At this time I would like to redact my prediction because *surprised* we were lied to and it was overhyped yet again to make us believe it was on a track that it really wasn't on.
    Are you onto something or just on something?
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    edited October 2016
    filmoret said:
    At this time I would like to redact my prediction because *surprised* we were lied to and it was overhyped yet again to make us believe it was on a track that it really wasn't on.
    What? WHAT?
    Sorry pal but that's just your imagination that the MVP would ever release on January.

    In the real world (where you're not at on this topic), the statements go otherwise, that by release they want a chunk of the 100 planned solar systems in-game. You are the one pretending the MVP of SC s one Star System.

    Don't go accuse them of lies when on reality nobody but you said that.
  • filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906
    MaxBacon said:
    filmoret said:
    At this time I would like to redact my prediction because *surprised* we were lied to and it was overhyped yet again to make us believe it was on a track that it really wasn't on.
    What? WHAT?
    Sorry pal but that's just your imagination that the MVP would ever release on January.

    In the real world (where you're not at on this topic), the statements go otherwise, that by release they want a chunk of the 100 planned solar systems in-game. You are the one pretending the MVP of SC s one Star System.

    Don't go accuse them of lies when on reality nobody but you said that.
    IF they had conquered procedural generation like they claimed.  Well you understand how it works so why do I need to explain the obvious?
    Are you onto something or just on something?
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    edited October 2016
    filmoret said:
    IF they had conquered procedural generation like they claimed.  Well you understand how it works so why do I need to explain the obvious?
    You're the one who needs explanation. As it is clearly visible they simply do not throw around and PG systems and planets, it's pretty much hand-crafted with the procedural help that gives it the proper scale, so best of both worlds but it's not like games like Elite do it; so the necessary hand-crafting is very much still the direction but with powerful tools to speed it up.

    It's a silly expectation PG or not, features like mining are stuff that as known was not road-mapped for this year but for me it is quite obvious that the game needs Mining by release; even if it was a barebones release.
  • filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906
    MaxBacon said:
    filmoret said:
    IF they had conquered procedural generation like they claimed.  Well you understand how it works so why do I need to explain the obvious?
    You're the one who needs explanation. As it is clearly visible they simply do not throw around and PG systems and planets, it's pretty much hand-crafted with the procedural help that gives it the proper scale, so best of both worlds but it's not like games like Elite do it; so the necessary hand-crafting is very much still the direction but with powerful tools to speed it up.

    It's a silly expectation PG or not, features like mining are stuff that as known was not road-mapped for this year but for me it is quite obvious that the game needs Mining by release; even if it was a barebones release.
    I didn't realize they wanted to spend as much time as possible developing this game when I wrote this article.  Now they have lost all my respect with this nonsense.
    Are you onto something or just on something?
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    edited October 2016
    filmoret said:
    I didn't realize they wanted to spend as much time as possible developing this game when I wrote this article.  Now they have lost all my respect with this nonsense.
    What respect? All you ever done here was <insert negative post / insult towards CIG and/or SC>, so I don't see any change there as you'll most likely just continue doing what you always did.
  • Sassy_Gay_UnicornSassy_Gay_Unicorn Member UncommonPosts: 316
    edited October 2016
    I'll have to come back and read the thread, but as for Gold Release I am sticking to my mostly totally random guesstimate of Q2 2018. I expect a free ship if I am right.

    Edit: I know at least some of you chintzy bastards have a whole fleet ready to go and can give me a clunker! Don't you be holding out on me!!!
  • filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906
    MaxBacon said:
    filmoret said:
    I didn't realize they wanted to spend as much time as possible developing this game when I wrote this article.  Now they have lost all my respect with this nonsense.
    What respect? All you ever done here was <insert negative post / insult towards CIG and/or SC>, so I don't see any change there as you'll most likely just continue doing what you always did.
    I know it wasn't easy to see but its not that easy to see anything with all the crap this company has put you through. 
    Are you onto something or just on something?
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    filmoret said:
    I know it wasn't easy to see but its not that easy to see anything with all the crap this company has put you through. 
    So yeah you just keep on doing what you always been doing, that's why I didn't get your post about losing respect when you're one of the persons that most insulted and attacked CIG and SC on this forums. You should direct your hatred and anger to actual companies and games that really scammed their costumers and really overstepped boundaries instead of constantly obsess into villanizing CIG and Star Citizen.
  • rpmcmurphyrpmcmurphy Member EpicPosts: 3,502
    MaxBacon said:
    filmoret said:
    I know it wasn't easy to see but its not that easy to see anything with all the crap this company has put you through. 
    So yeah you just keep on doing what you always been doing, that's why I didn't get your post about losing respect when you're one of the persons that most insulted and attacked CIG and SC on this forums. You should direct your hatred and anger to actual companies and games that really scammed their costumers and really overstepped boundaries instead of constantly obsess into villanizing CIG and Star Citizen.

    I think part of the problem is the narrative that CIG want to use, the whole anti-publisher stance, the caring community tripe etc while actually behaving like a shitty publisher using shady marketing tactics, constant lies and delays etc. They deserve all the flak they get to be honest.

  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    edited October 2016
    I think part of the problem is the narrative that CIG want to use, the whole anti-publisher stance, the caring community tripe etc while actually behaving like a shitty publisher using shady marketing tactics, constant lies and delays etc. They deserve all the flak they get to be honest.
    That narrative is viable, though, we have saw the same story over and over again. This is just constant attempts to villainize CIG. Into a blind hatred against the company; somehow you don't hear the same people saying the same about any other company, only CIG is somehow this evil company.

    I'm just glad the actual community is not like he loud detractors and people pursuing their agendas around here, if the community behaved like many people around this forum...

    It would ASAP destroy the developers morale and RIP Star Citizen, so thanks God that the community that supports this game is majority made of people like filmoret.

    It would be nothing but bring in some crucifixes and start stoning sessions!
  • filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906
    MaxBacon said:
    filmoret said:
    I didn't realize they wanted to spend as much time as possible developing this game when I wrote this article.  Now they have lost all my respect with this nonsense.
    What respect? All you ever done here was <insert negative post / insult towards CIG and/or SC>, so I don't see any change there as you'll most likely just continue doing what you always did.
    Go back and read the beginning of this thread and the other one about SQ42.  I'm being positive about this stuff.  I also allow for negative which is something you don't understand at all.  The problem is everything devolved into negative because it was very hard to see anything positive after citizencon 2016.  Especially since they made it look like SQ42 was close to being finished and made it very clear that the pg planet thing is probably not true.  And then they did what looked like a completely scripted demo of the same things they have been showing us for over a year now.
    Are you onto something or just on something?
  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 10,329
    They showed us "the same thing for over a year now" ?

    Feel free to give us a link from 2015 were we see sandworms and dune nomads on a procedural generated planetary surface, being attacked by our avatar in a sandstorm.

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    **** crickets ****

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    Thought so.


    Have fun
  • filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906
    Erillion said:
    They showed us "the same thing for over a year now" ?

    Feel free to give us a link from 2015 were we see sandworms and dune nomads on a procedural generated planetary surface, being attacked by our avatar in a sandstorm.

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    **** crickets ****

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    Thought so.


    Have fun
    A scripted sandworm and scripted nomads riding bikes?  Dude WTF any first year graphics engineer can do that in 1 week.
    Are you onto something or just on something?
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    edited October 2016
    filmoret said:
    Go back and read the beginning of this thread and the other one about SQ42.  I'm being positive about this stuff.  I also allow for negative which is something you don't understand at all. 
    It's not positive, it's more stirring of controversy (by discussing the same thing until and after they are beaten up?), when it comes to the game, I mean the actual game it's pretty much forgotten as almost everything here is about the company and CR. And that clearly shows the pursuing of agendas that are meant to ensure everything will always be surrounding negativity; some of the same people just by browsing the web are almost everywhere where SC is discussed doing the SAME thing. The only way I wouldn't see it as I do, is pretending i'm not seeing it.


    filmoret said:
    A scripted sandworm and scripted nomads riding bikes?  Dude WTF any first year graphics engineer can do that in 1 week.
    Have you noticed the name of the demo? The Procedural Planets V2 tech demo thing? The whole thing is a tech show showcasing the procedural technology they have and what they can currently do with it.

    The mission was not the point of it, was just the way to showcase what they can do with the tech.
  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 10,329
    filmoret said:
    A scripted sandworm and scripted nomads riding bikes?  Dude WTF any first year graphics engineer can do that in 1 week.
    You forget:

    + procedurally generated planet
    + procedurally generated weather system
    + procedurally generated planetary base
    + prcodurally generated biotope + vegetation (in great detail)
    + scavenger hunt through three different locations (exploring and interacting with wreckage)
    + Sniper takedowns and stealth knife takedowns

    please point me to THAT first year graphics engineer that does this in one week.


    Have fun
  • filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906
    Erillion said:
    filmoret said:
    A scripted sandworm and scripted nomads riding bikes?  Dude WTF any first year graphics engineer can do that in 1 week.
    You forget:

    + procedurally generated planet
    + procedurally generated weather system
    + procedurally generated planetary base
    + prcodurally generated biotope + vegetation (in great detail)
    + scavenger hunt through three different locations (exploring and interacting with wreckage)
    + Sniper takedowns and stealth knife takedowns

    please point me to THAT first year graphics engineer that does this in one week.


    Have fun
    We will know how true that is around February then.
    Are you onto something or just on something?
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    No you won't @filmoret , this had not been given any release date, it's not going to be used on the Stanton system either; as on Stanton we don't have any PG planet with one breathable atmosphere I think. Arccorp / Microtech and such are but they're not PG.

    We'll eventually see that type of planets in the game, but far I understand not before we can visit other solar systems.
  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 10,329
    @MaxBacon

    CIG might add one such planet during Alpha testing to the Stanton system for testing, although they will relocate it before multiplayer PU launch to another system.


    Have fun
  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 4,619
    edited October 2016
    rodarin said:
    No I said what a good start to changing peoples minds would be. Having an SQ 42 module that is at least as far along as the Arena Commander module people are playing now. That would at least show they have a prayer of releasing an SQ 42 retail version in the next 18 months.

    I also find it hard to believe tat with all the hype and expectations that backers (specifically you) have only gone into your hanger during the 3 years the game has been available to 'play'. Now people who never had any intention of playing and just stockpiled ships to sell later , MAYBE but not anyone who actually bought into the game with the goal to actually own it and play it.

    So I dont believe that comment.
    I am backer from back in 2014 or so, have an original Avenger package, P-72 archimedes LTI and a Herald LTI  and I don't have the game client even installed at this point.

    Last time I had it was when the ptu came out and that playoffline or solo trick came out on reddit and tried it for an hour or so and then stopped.  There are many of us that get tired of the hype both good and bad about the game and just check out where it's at once n awhile.  I bet many are like me and don't care about live streams and just check out small recaps.

    I am sorry but regardless of what you believe your pulling stuff out of your backside if you think you know what those like myself are doing.  The game is clearly in alpha right and many of us are not interested in alpha.

    Like  very many, and I know this for a fact due to org talk, some of us will download and update the client when sq42 comes out as we can't be bothered to alpha test or deal with big downloads each patch.

    Twitch stream number mean jack all, this isn't a moba.

    I like what I have seen so far, I just wish they were a little quicker.   This last video on the procedurelly created planet and that sand storm and wurm was pretty cool.  The no skybox comment sounded interesting too seeing as ED does have a skybox.

    Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.





  • filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906
    MaxBacon said:
    No you won't @filmoret , this had not been given any release date, it's not going to be used on the Stanton system either; as on Stanton we don't have any PG planet with one breathable atmosphere I think. Arccorp / Microtech and such are but they're not PG.

    We'll eventually see that type of planets in the game, but far I understand not before we can visit other solar systems.
    How convenient.  They aren't going to use the PG stuff yet.  That makes perfect sense to someone who doubts that they even have it.  So what sense does it make to put that on the shelf and create an entire system without the 1 thing that is going to make it happen 100x faster?
    Are you onto something or just on something?
  • TalonsinTalonsin Member EpicPosts: 3,619
    filmoret said:
    MaxBacon said:
    No you won't @filmoret , this had not been given any release date, it's not going to be used on the Stanton system either; as on Stanton we don't have any PG planet with one breathable atmosphere I think. Arccorp / Microtech and such are but they're not PG.

    We'll eventually see that type of planets in the game, but far I understand not before we can visit other solar systems.
    How convenient.  They aren't going to use the PG stuff yet.  That makes perfect sense to someone who doubts that they even have it.  So what sense does it make to put that on the shelf and create an entire system without the 1 thing that is going to make it happen 100x faster?
    PG comes in after launch as an extra cost DLC  :)
    "Sean (Murray) saying MP will be in the game is not remotely close to evidence that at the point of purchase people thought there was MP in the game."  - SEANMCAD

  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    edited October 2016
    filmoret said:
    How convenient.  They aren't going to use the PG stuff yet.  That makes perfect sense to someone who doubts that they even have it.  So what sense does it make to put that on the shelf and create an entire system without the 1 thing that is going to make it happen 100x faster?
    Because far known, the Planet(s?) that will include missions for SQ42 is a planet using the new tech. If SQ42 needs it, it should take priority over what the PU needs.

    Things can make sense without a conspiracy behind it y'know.
  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 10,329
    filmoret said:
      That makes perfect sense to someone who doubts that they even have it. 
    Except that they have shown the tech for hours to gaming press journalists already. And those have written articles about it which you can find using Google.


    So much for "they do not have it".


    Have fun
  • rpmcmurphyrpmcmurphy Member EpicPosts: 3,502
    edited October 2016
    Asm0deus said:
     The no skybox comment sounded interesting too seeing as ED does have a skybox.

    Could you elaborate on this?
    At the moment they don't have more than 1 star system so are they talking about a skybox when going from planet to space or something? Elite basically has a skybox for each star system but a system can be phenomenal in size with multiple planets, moons, suns etc and you could fly to each of those without passing through a single load screen (if you were really inclined to).

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