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Seems like Dark and light might be the game YOU guys been waiting for

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  • AxehiltAxehilt Member RarePosts: 10,504
    Sovrath said:
    Not sure which games you are referring to but I don't see many that are like Dark and Light. At least superficially, we'll have to see how the combat is, exploration, etc.
    Darkfall, Mortal Online, Archeage, etc.  There's been a steady flow of mediocre MMORPGs for a while now.

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,938
    Axehilt said:
    Sovrath said:
    Not sure which games you are referring to but I don't see many that are like Dark and Light. At least superficially, we'll have to see how the combat is, exploration, etc.
    Darkfall, Mortal Online, Archeage, etc.  There's been a steady flow of mediocre MMORPGs for a while now.
    Well, I've tried Darkfall and Mortal Online and they both felt cheap and glitchy and buggy. 

    Archeage is much better and I even play it from time to time but the exploration is a bit lacking. In truth, even though it wasn't a "sandbox" I felt Vanguard came the closest.
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  • Vermillion_RaventhalVermillion_Raventhal Member EpicPosts: 4,198
    Axehilt said:
    Sovrath said:
    Not sure which games you are referring to but I don't see many that are like Dark and Light. At least superficially, we'll have to see how the combat is, exploration, etc.
    Darkfall, Mortal Online, Archeage, etc.  There's been a steady flow of mediocre MMORPGs for a while now.
    I am not sure a bunch of extreme low budget games made by amatuer studios count.  The Archeage is decent if it weren't for the cash shop.
  • DeivosDeivos Member EpicPosts: 3,692
    Axehilt said:
    Don't we already have 10s of awful sandbox MMORPGs?
    And how many awful themeparks have there been?

    Progress takes time and takes people making attempts at different ways to do things until it's finally done good enough. Stop acting like stagnation is the right way to do anything.

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  • AxehiltAxehilt Member RarePosts: 10,504
    Sovrath said:
    Well, I've tried Darkfall and Mortal Online and they both felt cheap and glitchy and buggy.
    Right. Exactly like I said.  Awful sandbox MMORPGs.

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  • AxehiltAxehilt Member RarePosts: 10,504
    I am not sure a bunch of extreme low budget games made by amatuer studios count.  The Archeage is decent if it weren't for the cash shop.
    How do low budget games made by amateurs NOT count as "awful sandbox MMORPGs"?

    It sounds like you're agreeing with me while attempting to disagree with me.

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  • Vermillion_RaventhalVermillion_Raventhal Member EpicPosts: 4,198
    Axehilt said:
    I am not sure a bunch of extreme low budget games made by amatuer studios count.  The Archeage is decent if it weren't for the cash shop.
    How do low budget games made by amateurs NOT count as "awful sandbox MMORPGs"?

    It sounds like you're agreeing with me while attempting to disagree with me.
    You're right in that most agree those games are bad.  You are just missing the point that people don't see that as representative of what a sandbox can be. It's like saying crap low budget themepark is not representative of what themeparks can be.

    Seems more like you are operating on 1 and 0.
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,938
    Axehilt said:
    Sovrath said:
    Well, I've tried Darkfall and Mortal Online and they both felt cheap and glitchy and buggy.
    Right. Exactly like I said.  Awful sandbox MMORPGs.
    I wasn't really thinking of those as being "sandbox games" but I suppose they are.
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  • FlyByKnightFlyByKnight Member EpicPosts: 3,967
    Hey guys lets reference a bunch of bad themepark games and use them as a reason to say some completely dumb shit about themeparks games and how there's enough of them. That way we can all be one. Unity.
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  • AxehiltAxehilt Member RarePosts: 10,504
    You're right in that most agree those games are bad.  You are just missing the point that people don't see that as representative of what a sandbox can be. It's like saying crap low budget themepark is not representative of what themeparks can be.

    Seems more like you are operating on 1 and 0.
    If someone shows you a shitty car, and you say the world doesn't need more shitty cars, that statement doesn't mean you're saying all cars are either shitty or perfect.

    I saw what looked like an awful sandbox MMORPG, and said the world didn't need more awful sandbox MMORPGs.  That statement doesn't mean that all sandbox MMORPGs are either awful or perfect.

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  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    edited September 2016
    exile01 said:
    Action combat, no tab targeting
    Player made houses ala Archage just more deep
    Flying, Parashooting, etc.
    No class restrictions, 10 different weapon styles
    high end graphic
    open world
    Sandbox

    http://2p.com/44664245_2/Dark-and-Light-Unveils-Combat-and-Building-Screenshots-amp-Gameplay-Details-by-shaylynsun.htm
    Edit: right direction but a LONG way to go.

    They led the article with 'here are more than 10 types of skills'

    10? really a whole number 10?

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  • AxehiltAxehilt Member RarePosts: 10,504
    Hey guys lets reference a bunch of bad themepark games and use them as a reason to say some completely dumb shit about themeparks games and how there's enough of them. That way we can all be one. Unity.
    If someone creates a thread showing a new bad themepark, we can do that.  But this thread was about a bad sandbox MMORPG, so we can't do that in this thread.

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  • Vermillion_RaventhalVermillion_Raventhal Member EpicPosts: 4,198
    Axehilt said:
    You're right in that most agree those games are bad.  You are just missing the point that people don't see that as representative of what a sandbox can be. It's like saying crap low budget themepark is not representative of what themeparks can be.

    Seems more like you are operating on 1 and 0.
    If someone shows you a shitty car, and you say the world doesn't need more shitty cars, that statement doesn't mean you're saying all cars are either shitty or perfect.

    I saw what looked like an awful sandbox MMORPG, and said the world didn't need more awful sandbox MMORPGs.  That statement doesn't mean that all sandbox MMORPGs are either awful or perfect.
    I guess.  I am not sure a professionally done sandbox compares to the games you mentioned.  Especially without playing it or the game even being in beta.  

    If WoW is basically your optimal MMORPG not sure view of any sandbox is objective.
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    wait 10 skills?

    10? as in 1 with a 0...10?

    not 100...10

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  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    SEANMCAD said:
    wait 10 skills?

    10? as in 1 with a 0...10?

    not 100...10
    I read "10 types of skills"

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  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    edited September 2016
    laserit said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    wait 10 skills?

    10? as in 1 with a 0...10?

    not 100...10
    I read "10 types of skills"
    yeah and 1. they led with that and 2. they didnt say how many per 'type' leading me to believe its pretty unimpressive skill tree

    but correction noted

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,059
    Axehilt said:
    Hey guys lets reference a bunch of bad themepark games and use them as a reason to say some completely dumb shit about themeparks games and how there's enough of them. That way we can all be one. Unity.
    If someone creates a thread showing a new bad themepark, we can do that.  But this thread was about a bad sandbox MMORPG, so we can't do that in this thread.
    Perhaps it would be more helpful to state why you feel this will be yet another bad sand box game?

    I suspect you feel this way about all sandbox games, based on this core design.

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  • DeivosDeivos Member EpicPosts: 3,692
    Deivos said:
    Axehilt said:
    Don't we already have 10s of awful sandbox MMORPGs?
    And how many awful themeparks have there been?

    Progress takes time and takes people making attempts at different ways to do things until it's finally done good enough. Stop acting like stagnation is the right way to do anything.
    Not sure that is what he meant.
    Seems to be all he's arguing for against Ver.

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,059
    Axehilt said:
    You're right in that most agree those games are bad.  You are just missing the point that people don't see that as representative of what a sandbox can be. It's like saying crap low budget themepark is not representative of what themeparks can be.

    Seems more like you are operating on 1 and 0.
    If someone shows you a shitty car, and you say the world doesn't need more shitty cars, that statement doesn't mean you're saying all cars are either shitty or perfect.

    I saw what looked like an awful sandbox MMORPG, and said the world didn't need more awful sandbox MMORPGs.  That statement doesn't mean that all sandbox MMORPGs are either awful or perfect.
    I guess.  I am not sure a professionally done sandbox compares to the games you mentioned.  Especially without playing it or the game even being in beta.  

    If WoW is basically your optimal MMORPG not sure view of any sandbox is objective.
    It is and he's not.

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    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm

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  • FlyByKnightFlyByKnight Member EpicPosts: 3,967
    Axehilt said:
    Hey guys lets reference a bunch of bad themepark games and use them as a reason to say some completely dumb shit about themeparks games and how there's enough of them. That way we can all be one. Unity.
    If someone creates a thread showing a new bad themepark, we can do that.  But this thread was about a bad sandbox MMORPG, so we can't do that in this thread.
    My post was about a bad response to the thread, so we actually CAN do that here.
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  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    this thread has already gotten ridiculous 

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  • URMAKERURMAKER Member UncommonPosts: 671
    sounded good on paper the 1st time around as well but turned out to be the worst pos i've ever played.

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  • DeivosDeivos Member EpicPosts: 3,692
    Axehilt said:
    Hey guys lets reference a bunch of bad themepark games and use them as a reason to say some completely dumb shit about themeparks games and how there's enough of them. That way we can all be one. Unity.
    If someone creates a thread showing a new bad themepark, we can do that.  But this thread was about a bad sandbox MMORPG, so we can't do that in this thread.
    Ah, yes. We forgot that if something doesn't fit specifically into your belief or agenda then it is not a valid counterargument to the nonsense you spout.

    We can point at quite literally most any new themepark and be faced with a bad game. We can also note that there are considerably more bad themeparks than there are of any kinda sandbox titles.

    You didn't obtain the good themeparks by not producing themepark titles, just the same as you need to produce sandbox titles and deal with the various renditions until one of them strikes on a solid basis for a good game.

    Besides which we can say the same thing you say elsewhere. If it's a bad game then people won't play it anyways. Let it die in it's natural course rather than pointlessly whining about something you don't have any interest in trying in the first place.

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  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914
    Axehilt said:
    Don't we already have 10s of awful sandbox MMORPGs?  Do we need another?  People aren't exactly playing those other games...
       Yes .. someone plz send the memo out to all Deveolpment Houses , to cease and desist all development of Sandbox MMorpgs, cause Axehilt doesnt like it ...... 

     
     
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