I have a HOTAS system. One that sells rather well in fact. I use it to play pretty much one game. Its a hassle to set up and I often just dont play that one game because of that. However the company is doing well and has been selling them for a long time.
My Oculus Rift which I own is easier and faster to setup then my HOTAS system.
That's completely relevant. Thank you for your input. What are the system requirements for the HOTAS? Do you use it for Minecraft or Esper? I find it a pain to map mine for Annie Amber.
I have a Warthog and a G27 that I rarely use because setting up the cockpit for them is a pain in the ass. They are worth it when I do, though, because the software they run with is of a quality that easily justifies their purchase and existence. They also have system specs that a business class laptop covers.
I use it for Elite Dangerous however if the point is that the PC VR headsets will not succede because they are a pain to set up I am illustrating with my HOTAS example that its unlikely to be the case. if I had that underlining point incorrect then I am sorry
I think the set up and required wires/space are a small part of it. The cost is probably the biggest roadblock that favors phone and console set ups. Consoles still require the wires at this point though.
I think PC VR set ups will succeed. I just don't think the time is now. They have the most and biggest hurdles in their way.
PCs are also the best gaming system if you can overcome the entry hurdles. Better graphics/resolutions/framerates. Cheaper games. More peripherals. Still consoles exist and thrive because of their low entry price point. Even with PC prices dropping for... ever, you can just now build a decent PC, with OS and monitor and everything, for the same price as getting into a console that uses the TV you already have and is generally more social. An equivalent PC; not one that will blow anyone away, make them see those better graphics, and sway them to become a PC gamer.
That's where the other two ecosystems win for now. They may not be as good or better, but they are close enough for substantially less.
I read a recent article regarding comparable costs from PC to Console. Generally consoles just undercut hardware, .....
the number one Pros argument for consoles has usually always been 'its best option for discount gaming' as if every gamer is looking for the blue light special deal and walmart or somethig
Mobile is the number one option for "discount VR gaming". You can use mobile sets for most current Rift Games, even the "PC Only" ones as long as you have a system with comparable specs.
My point was specifically the costs between consoles and PC's. Consoles often undercut their hardware to make it affordable. Not just that, but a comparable PC to a Console will be more expensive. That is specifically the point of those paragraphs.
right I got it. consoles are better because they are the better economic choice over PCs for those who are looking for discount gaming. If they want to take discounting gaming further then they should explore mobile or maybe a sack filled with marbles.
I have a HOTAS system. One that sells rather well in fact. I use it to play pretty much one game. Its a hassle to set up and I often just dont play that one game because of that. However the company is doing well and has been selling them for a long time.
My Oculus Rift which I own is easier and faster to setup then my HOTAS system.
That's completely relevant. Thank you for your input. What are the system requirements for the HOTAS? Do you use it for Minecraft or Esper? I find it a pain to map mine for Annie Amber.
I have a Warthog and a G27 that I rarely use because setting up the cockpit for them is a pain in the ass. They are worth it when I do, though, because the software they run with is of a quality that easily justifies their purchase and existence. They also have system specs that a business class laptop covers.
I use it for Elite Dangerous however if the point is that the PC VR headsets will not succede because they are a pain to set up I am illustrating with my HOTAS example that its unlikely to be the case. if I had that underlining point incorrect then I am sorry
I think the set up and required wires/space are a small part of it. The cost is probably the biggest roadblock that favors phone and console set ups. Consoles still require the wires at this point though.
I think PC VR set ups will succeed. I just don't think the time is now. They have the most and biggest hurdles in their way.
PCs are also the best gaming system if you can overcome the entry hurdles. Better graphics/resolutions/framerates. Cheaper games. More peripherals. Still consoles exist and thrive because of their low entry price point. Even with PC prices dropping for... ever, you can just now build a decent PC, with OS and monitor and everything, for the same price as getting into a console that uses the TV you already have and is generally more social. An equivalent PC; not one that will blow anyone away, make them see those better graphics, and sway them to become a PC gamer.
That's where the other two ecosystems win for now. They may not be as good or better, but they are close enough for substantially less.
I read a recent article regarding comparable costs from PC to Console. Generally consoles just undercut hardware, .....
the number one Pros argument for consoles has usually always been 'its best option for discount gaming' as if every gamer is looking for the blue light special deal and walmart or somethig
Mobile is the number one option for "discount VR gaming". You can use mobile sets for most current Rift Games, even the "PC Only" ones as long as you have a system with comparable specs.
My point was specifically the costs between consoles and PC's. Consoles often undercut their hardware to make it affordable. Not just that, but a comparable PC to a Console will be more expensive. That is specifically the point of those paragraphs.
right I got it. consoles are better because they are the better economic choice over PCs for those who are looking for discount gaming. If they want to take discounting gaming further then they should explore mobile or maybe a sack filled with marbles.
yeah I got it.
SEAN 1 Reading Comprehension 0
I am disapointed that you do not have an intrest in answering my question earlier, very disappointed but it does illustrate to me that your non-answer means I am likely right and you likely know HOW I would be right.
anyway, I digress, when people talk about consoles vs pcs (notice race cars, golf carts or mobile is not in the equation) the most common Pro for consoles over pcs (notice its between two options) is that consoles are a better deal economically
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
I have a HOTAS system. One that sells rather well in fact. I use it to play pretty much one game. Its a hassle to set up and I often just dont play that one game because of that. However the company is doing well and has been selling them for a long time.
My Oculus Rift which I own is easier and faster to setup then my HOTAS system.
That's completely relevant. Thank you for your input. What are the system requirements for the HOTAS? Do you use it for Minecraft or Esper? I find it a pain to map mine for Annie Amber.
I have a Warthog and a G27 that I rarely use because setting up the cockpit for them is a pain in the ass. They are worth it when I do, though, because the software they run with is of a quality that easily justifies their purchase and existence. They also have system specs that a business class laptop covers.
I use it for Elite Dangerous however if the point is that the PC VR headsets will not succede because they are a pain to set up I am illustrating with my HOTAS example that its unlikely to be the case. if I had that underlining point incorrect then I am sorry
I think the set up and required wires/space are a small part of it. The cost is probably the biggest roadblock that favors phone and console set ups. Consoles still require the wires at this point though.
I think PC VR set ups will succeed. I just don't think the time is now. They have the most and biggest hurdles in their way.
PCs are also the best gaming system if you can overcome the entry hurdles. Better graphics/resolutions/framerates. Cheaper games. More peripherals. Still consoles exist and thrive because of their low entry price point. Even with PC prices dropping for... ever, you can just now build a decent PC, with OS and monitor and everything, for the same price as getting into a console that uses the TV you already have and is generally more social. An equivalent PC; not one that will blow anyone away, make them see those better graphics, and sway them to become a PC gamer.
That's where the other two ecosystems win for now. They may not be as good or better, but they are close enough for substantially less.
I read a recent article regarding comparable costs from PC to Console. Generally consoles just undercut hardware, .....
the number one Pros argument for consoles has usually always been 'its best option for discount gaming' as if every gamer is looking for the blue light special deal and walmart or somethig
Mobile is the number one option for "discount VR gaming". You can use mobile sets for most current Rift Games, even the "PC Only" ones as long as you have a system with comparable specs.
My point was specifically the costs between consoles and PC's. Consoles often undercut their hardware to make it affordable. Not just that, but a comparable PC to a Console will be more expensive. That is specifically the point of those paragraphs.
right I got it. consoles are better because they are the better economic choice over PCs for those who are looking for discount gaming. If they want to take discounting gaming further then they should explore mobile or maybe a sack filled with marbles.
yeah I got it.
SEAN 1 Reading Comprehension 0
I am disapointed that you do not have an intrest in answering my question earlier, very disappointed but it does illustrate to me that your non-answer means I am likely right and you likely know HOW I would be right.
anyway, I digress, when people talk about consoles vs pcs (notice race cars, golf carts or mobile is not in the equation) the most common Pro for consoles over pcs (notice its between two options) is that consoles are a better deal economically
It takes everyone less than a minute to scroll back to our conversation and see that you chose to believe in fantasy rather than facts. You're not fooling anyone, including yourself.
You admit quite often to not reading. You consistently choose not to answer questions that you know the answer to.
Trying to put it back on me that you know for a fact that the Rift is consistently under performing is just another chance for you to show that you live as much in a virtual world of your own design than the one the rest of us - including the CEO of Facebook - live in.
I have a HOTAS system. One that sells rather well in fact. I use it to play pretty much one game. Its a hassle to set up and I often just dont play that one game because of that. However the company is doing well and has been selling them for a long time.
My Oculus Rift which I own is easier and faster to setup then my HOTAS system.
That's completely relevant. Thank you for your input. What are the system requirements for the HOTAS? Do you use it for Minecraft or Esper? I find it a pain to map mine for Annie Amber.
I have a Warthog and a G27 that I rarely use because setting up the cockpit for them is a pain in the ass. They are worth it when I do, though, because the software they run with is of a quality that easily justifies their purchase and existence. They also have system specs that a business class laptop covers.
I use it for Elite Dangerous however if the point is that the PC VR headsets will not succede because they are a pain to set up I am illustrating with my HOTAS example that its unlikely to be the case. if I had that underlining point incorrect then I am sorry
I think the set up and required wires/space are a small part of it. The cost is probably the biggest roadblock that favors phone and console set ups. Consoles still require the wires at this point though.
I think PC VR set ups will succeed. I just don't think the time is now. They have the most and biggest hurdles in their way.
PCs are also the best gaming system if you can overcome the entry hurdles. Better graphics/resolutions/framerates. Cheaper games. More peripherals. Still consoles exist and thrive because of their low entry price point. Even with PC prices dropping for... ever, you can just now build a decent PC, with OS and monitor and everything, for the same price as getting into a console that uses the TV you already have and is generally more social. An equivalent PC; not one that will blow anyone away, make them see those better graphics, and sway them to become a PC gamer.
That's where the other two ecosystems win for now. They may not be as good or better, but they are close enough for substantially less.
I read a recent article regarding comparable costs from PC to Console. Generally consoles just undercut hardware, .....
the number one Pros argument for consoles has usually always been 'its best option for discount gaming' as if every gamer is looking for the blue light special deal and walmart or somethig
Mobile is the number one option for "discount VR gaming". You can use mobile sets for most current Rift Games, even the "PC Only" ones as long as you have a system with comparable specs.
My point was specifically the costs between consoles and PC's. Consoles often undercut their hardware to make it affordable. Not just that, but a comparable PC to a Console will be more expensive. That is specifically the point of those paragraphs.
right I got it. consoles are better because they are the better economic choice over PCs for those who are looking for discount gaming. If they want to take discounting gaming further then they should explore mobile or maybe a sack filled with marbles.
yeah I got it.
SEAN 1 Reading Comprehension 0
I am disapointed that you do not have an intrest in answering my question earlier, very disappointed but it does illustrate to me that your non-answer means I am likely right and you likely know HOW I would be right.
anyway, I digress, when people talk about consoles vs pcs (notice race cars, golf carts or mobile is not in the equation) the most common Pro for consoles over pcs (notice its between two options) is that consoles are a better deal economically
It takes everyone less than a minute to scroll back to our conversation and see that you chose to believe in fantasy rather than facts. You're not fooling anyone, including yourself.
You admit quite often to not reading. You consistently choose not to answer questions that you know the answer to.
Trying to put it back on me that you know for a fact that the Rift is consistently under performing is just another chance for you to show that you live as much in a virtual world of your own design than the one the rest of us - including the CEO of Facebook - live in.
that doesnt change that you do not want to know why I think its possible and even likely that the two items are true. but thanks for sharing your insight on to my motovations.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
I have a HOTAS system. One that sells rather well in fact. I use it to play pretty much one game. Its a hassle to set up and I often just dont play that one game because of that. However the company is doing well and has been selling them for a long time.
My Oculus Rift which I own is easier and faster to setup then my HOTAS system.
That's completely relevant. Thank you for your input. What are the system requirements for the HOTAS? Do you use it for Minecraft or Esper? I find it a pain to map mine for Annie Amber.
I have a Warthog and a G27 that I rarely use because setting up the cockpit for them is a pain in the ass. They are worth it when I do, though, because the software they run with is of a quality that easily justifies their purchase and existence. They also have system specs that a business class laptop covers.
I use it for Elite Dangerous however if the point is that the PC VR headsets will not succede because they are a pain to set up I am illustrating with my HOTAS example that its unlikely to be the case. if I had that underlining point incorrect then I am sorry
I think the set up and required wires/space are a small part of it. The cost is probably the biggest roadblock that favors phone and console set ups. Consoles still require the wires at this point though.
I think PC VR set ups will succeed. I just don't think the time is now. They have the most and biggest hurdles in their way.
PCs are also the best gaming system if you can overcome the entry hurdles. Better graphics/resolutions/framerates. Cheaper games. More peripherals. Still consoles exist and thrive because of their low entry price point. Even with PC prices dropping for... ever, you can just now build a decent PC, with OS and monitor and everything, for the same price as getting into a console that uses the TV you already have and is generally more social. An equivalent PC; not one that will blow anyone away, make them see those better graphics, and sway them to become a PC gamer.
That's where the other two ecosystems win for now. They may not be as good or better, but they are close enough for substantially less.
I read a recent article regarding comparable costs from PC to Console. Generally consoles just undercut hardware, .....
the number one Pros argument for consoles has usually always been 'its best option for discount gaming' as if every gamer is looking for the blue light special deal and walmart or somethig
Mobile is the number one option for "discount VR gaming". You can use mobile sets for most current Rift Games, even the "PC Only" ones as long as you have a system with comparable specs.
My point was specifically the costs between consoles and PC's. Consoles often undercut their hardware to make it affordable. Not just that, but a comparable PC to a Console will be more expensive. That is specifically the point of those paragraphs.
right I got it. consoles are better because they are the better economic choice over PCs for those who are looking for discount gaming. If they want to take discounting gaming further then they should explore mobile or maybe a sack filled with marbles.
yeah I got it.
SEAN 1 Reading Comprehension 0
I am disapointed that you do not have an intrest in answering my question earlier, very disappointed but it does illustrate to me that your non-answer means I am likely right and you likely know HOW I would be right.
anyway, I digress, when people talk about consoles vs pcs (notice race cars, golf carts or mobile is not in the equation) the most common Pro for consoles over pcs (notice its between two options) is that consoles are a better deal economically
It takes everyone less than a minute to scroll back to our conversation and see that you chose to believe in fantasy rather than facts. You're not fooling anyone, including yourself.
You admit quite often to not reading. You consistently choose not to answer questions that you know the answer to.
Trying to put it back on me that you know for a fact that the Rift is consistently under performing is just another chance for you to show that you live as much in a virtual world of your own design than the one the rest of us - including the CEO of Facebook - live in.
that doesnt change that you do not want to know why I think its possible and even likely that the two items are true. but thanks for sharing your insight on to my motovations.
Answer this question then, why should I care why you THINK something is POSSIBLE, when we already have the FACTS as to what IS?
We already know for a FACT that they are not selling as well as expected. We KNOW that. There is no QUESTION. There isn't some kind of.. secret answer. You don't say to all your investors that you have slow sales if you really are exceeding expectations. Nobody does that. "Slow sales" at best is a spin on what would otherwise be considered abysmal growth.
I have a HOTAS system. One that sells rather well in fact. I use it to play pretty much one game. Its a hassle to set up and I often just dont play that one game because of that. However the company is doing well and has been selling them for a long time.
My Oculus Rift which I own is easier and faster to setup then my HOTAS system.
That's completely relevant. Thank you for your input. What are the system requirements for the HOTAS? Do you use it for Minecraft or Esper? I find it a pain to map mine for Annie Amber.
I have a Warthog and a G27 that I rarely use because setting up the cockpit for them is a pain in the ass. They are worth it when I do, though, because the software they run with is of a quality that easily justifies their purchase and existence. They also have system specs that a business class laptop covers.
I use it for Elite Dangerous however if the point is that the PC VR headsets will not succede because they are a pain to set up I am illustrating with my HOTAS example that its unlikely to be the case. if I had that underlining point incorrect then I am sorry
I think the set up and required wires/space are a small part of it. The cost is probably the biggest roadblock that favors phone and console set ups. Consoles still require the wires at this point though.
I think PC VR set ups will succeed. I just don't think the time is now. They have the most and biggest hurdles in their way.
PCs are also the best gaming system if you can overcome the entry hurdles. Better graphics/resolutions/framerates. Cheaper games. More peripherals. Still consoles exist and thrive because of their low entry price point. Even with PC prices dropping for... ever, you can just now build a decent PC, with OS and monitor and everything, for the same price as getting into a console that uses the TV you already have and is generally more social. An equivalent PC; not one that will blow anyone away, make them see those better graphics, and sway them to become a PC gamer.
That's where the other two ecosystems win for now. They may not be as good or better, but they are close enough for substantially less.
I read a recent article regarding comparable costs from PC to Console. Generally consoles just undercut hardware, .....
the number one Pros argument for consoles has usually always been 'its best option for discount gaming' as if every gamer is looking for the blue light special deal and walmart or somethig
Mobile is the number one option for "discount VR gaming". You can use mobile sets for most current Rift Games, even the "PC Only" ones as long as you have a system with comparable specs.
My point was specifically the costs between consoles and PC's. Consoles often undercut their hardware to make it affordable. Not just that, but a comparable PC to a Console will be more expensive. That is specifically the point of those paragraphs.
right I got it. consoles are better because they are the better economic choice over PCs for those who are looking for discount gaming. If they want to take discounting gaming further then they should explore mobile or maybe a sack filled with marbles.
yeah I got it.
SEAN 1 Reading Comprehension 0
I am disapointed that you do not have an intrest in answering my question earlier, very disappointed but it does illustrate to me that your non-answer means I am likely right and you likely know HOW I would be right.
anyway, I digress, when people talk about consoles vs pcs (notice race cars, golf carts or mobile is not in the equation) the most common Pro for consoles over pcs (notice its between two options) is that consoles are a better deal economically
It takes everyone less than a minute to scroll back to our conversation and see that you chose to believe in fantasy rather than facts. You're not fooling anyone, including yourself.
You admit quite often to not reading. You consistently choose not to answer questions that you know the answer to.
Trying to put it back on me that you know for a fact that the Rift is consistently under performing is just another chance for you to show that you live as much in a virtual world of your own design than the one the rest of us - including the CEO of Facebook - live in.
that doesnt change that you do not want to know why I think its possible and even likely that the two items are true. but thanks for sharing your insight on to my motovations.
Answer this question then, why should I care why you THINK something is POSSIBLE, when we already have the FACTS as to what IS?
We already know for a FACT that they are not selling as well as expected. We KNOW that. There is no QUESTION. There isn't some kind of.. secret answer. You don't say to all your investors that you have slow sales if you really are exceeding expectations. Nobody does that. "Slow sales" at best is a spin on what would otherwise be considered abysmal growth.
I have already made it clear I refuse to answer any of your questions until you answer my question. I dont care if it feel unfair to you or not. i need to know you are willing to at min. hear my answer before I can move forward because if you dont answer or answer no I know 1000% sure that you are not going to have an open mind about anything I say if you even let me answer at all which is likely.
sorry to rehash it again I should have left it
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Answer this question then, why should I care why you THINK something is POSSIBLE, when we already have the FACTS as to what IS?
We already know for a FACT that they are not selling as well as expected. We KNOW that. There is no QUESTION. There isn't some kind of.. secret answer. You don't say to all your investors that you have slow sales if you really are exceeding expectations. Nobody does that. "Slow sales" at best is a spin on what would otherwise be considered abysmal growth.
I have already made it clear I refuse to answer any of your questions until you answer my question. I dont care if it feel unfair to you or not. i need to know you are willing to at min. hear my answer before I can move forward because if you dont answer or answer no I know 1000% sure that you are not going to have an open mind about anything I say if you even let me answer at all which is likely.
sorry to rehash it again I should have left it
Maybe someone else can explain reality to you. I appear to be at a loss. My willingness to hear you doesn't change the earnings report. You realize that don't you? Deep down, inside, you realize that what you say to me right now will not create a time rift to where they don't report slow sales.
Unless you can say, 100 percent without a doubt that you have the reason why they reported slow sales when you (supposedly) know they are exceeding expectations, I do not want to hear it. End of story.
Answer this question then, why should I care why you THINK something is POSSIBLE, when we already have the FACTS as to what IS?
We already know for a FACT that they are not selling as well as expected. We KNOW that. There is no QUESTION. There isn't some kind of.. secret answer. You don't say to all your investors that you have slow sales if you really are exceeding expectations. Nobody does that. "Slow sales" at best is a spin on what would otherwise be considered abysmal growth.
I have already made it clear I refuse to answer any of your questions until you answer my question. I dont care if it feel unfair to you or not. i need to know you are willing to at min. hear my answer before I can move forward because if you dont answer or answer no I know 1000% sure that you are not going to have an open mind about anything I say if you even let me answer at all which is likely.
sorry to rehash it again I should have left it
Maybe someone else can explain reality to you. ...
how is that possible when you dont even know my position in the first place!
look I am sorry I brought it up again we should move on, the moderators likely will not like this back and forth
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Like a previous poster said porn drives demand so I vote PC will have the lionshare down the road. It seems early to make a definitive judgement where it will land. Would be cool if pc/console/dvr etc all converges one day.
Answer this question then, why should I care why you THINK something is POSSIBLE, when we already have the FACTS as to what IS?
We already know for a FACT that they are not selling as well as expected. We KNOW that. There is no QUESTION. There isn't some kind of.. secret answer. You don't say to all your investors that you have slow sales if you really are exceeding expectations. Nobody does that. "Slow sales" at best is a spin on what would otherwise be considered abysmal growth.
I have already made it clear I refuse to answer any of your questions until you answer my question. I dont care if it feel unfair to you or not. i need to know you are willing to at min. hear my answer before I can move forward because if you dont answer or answer no I know 1000% sure that you are not going to have an open mind about anything I say if you even let me answer at all which is likely.
sorry to rehash it again I should have left it
Maybe someone else can explain reality to you. ...
how is that possible when you dont even know my position in the first place!
look I am sorry I brought it up again we should move on, the moderators likely will not like this back and forth
why would they care that there is a discussion on a forum? That is exactly the purpose.
Furthermore, you're welcome to your position, but I'm starting to feel that you don't have one. I feel like you realize that your OPINION doesn't change what is currently factual, so you're requiring me to be "open" to your suggestion. If you have a position contrary to facts, go ahead and state it for everyone else.
I don't post for your benefit. I don't respond to you with answers because I expect a response from you. I do so because I disagree with what you say and/or have information to the contrary. It's for the benefit of myself and others that disagree.
Your opinion will not be for my benefit. I posted the answer to your incorrect assumption that "all hardware manufacturers have said they are exceeding expectations" I proved that you are incorrect and your assumption is based on your self-opinionated perception. It is not the current state of things. At the time you challenged my assessment by requiring numbers, instead I pointed you to factual data of the CEO stating their sales were slow.
This is just a recount of how this got started up until this point. You are welcome to post your information, however based on opinion and not based on facts it may be.
Answer this question then, why should I care why you THINK something is POSSIBLE, when we already have the FACTS as to what IS?
We already know for a FACT that they are not selling as well as expected. We KNOW that. There is no QUESTION. There isn't some kind of.. secret answer. You don't say to all your investors that you have slow sales if you really are exceeding expectations. Nobody does that. "Slow sales" at best is a spin on what would otherwise be considered abysmal growth.
I have already made it clear I refuse to answer any of your questions until you answer my question. I dont care if it feel unfair to you or not. i need to know you are willing to at min. hear my answer before I can move forward because if you dont answer or answer no I know 1000% sure that you are not going to have an open mind about anything I say if you even let me answer at all which is likely.
sorry to rehash it again I should have left it
Maybe someone else can explain reality to you. ...
how is that possible when you dont even know my position in the first place!
look I am sorry I brought it up again we should move on, the moderators likely will not like this back and forth
why would they care that there is a discussion on a forum?
DUDE! another question. You are wasting a huge amount of your time becasue I am literally not reading anything after I read something like this. in this case a question.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Answer this question then, why should I care why you THINK something is POSSIBLE, when we already have the FACTS as to what IS?
We already know for a FACT that they are not selling as well as expected. We KNOW that. There is no QUESTION. There isn't some kind of.. secret answer. You don't say to all your investors that you have slow sales if you really are exceeding expectations. Nobody does that. "Slow sales" at best is a spin on what would otherwise be considered abysmal growth.
I have already made it clear I refuse to answer any of your questions until you answer my question. I dont care if it feel unfair to you or not. i need to know you are willing to at min. hear my answer before I can move forward because if you dont answer or answer no I know 1000% sure that you are not going to have an open mind about anything I say if you even let me answer at all which is likely.
sorry to rehash it again I should have left it
Maybe someone else can explain reality to you. ...
how is that possible when you dont even know my position in the first place!
look I am sorry I brought it up again we should move on, the moderators likely will not like this back and forth
why would they care that there is a discussion on a forum?
DUDE! another question. You are wasting a huge amount of your time becasue I am literally not reading anything after I read something like this. in this case a question.
Answer this question then, why should I care why you THINK something is POSSIBLE, when we already have the FACTS as to what IS?
We already know for a FACT that they are not selling as well as expected. We KNOW that. There is no QUESTION. There isn't some kind of.. secret answer. You don't say to all your investors that you have slow sales if you really are exceeding expectations. Nobody does that. "Slow sales" at best is a spin on what would otherwise be considered abysmal growth.
I have already made it clear I refuse to answer any of your questions until you answer my question. I dont care if it feel unfair to you or not. i need to know you are willing to at min. hear my answer before I can move forward because if you dont answer or answer no I know 1000% sure that you are not going to have an open mind about anything I say if you even let me answer at all which is likely.
sorry to rehash it again I should have left it
Maybe someone else can explain reality to you. ...
how is that possible when you dont even know my position in the first place!
look I am sorry I brought it up again we should move on, the moderators likely will not like this back and forth
why would they care that there is a discussion on a forum?
DUDE! another question. You are wasting a huge amount of your time becasue I am literally not reading anything after I read something like this. in this case a question.
read the post to find out.
it contains a question and I have already told you not answering questions until you answer mine. seriously though, nobody is reading what you are writing so why are you doing it? oh sorry a question nevermind you dont need to answer, just answer the root question or not
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Answer this question then, why should I care why you THINK something is POSSIBLE, when we already have the FACTS as to what IS?
We already know for a FACT that they are not selling as well as expected. We KNOW that. There is no QUESTION. There isn't some kind of.. secret answer. You don't say to all your investors that you have slow sales if you really are exceeding expectations. Nobody does that. "Slow sales" at best is a spin on what would otherwise be considered abysmal growth.
I have already made it clear I refuse to answer any of your questions until you answer my question. I dont care if it feel unfair to you or not. i need to know you are willing to at min. hear my answer before I can move forward because if you dont answer or answer no I know 1000% sure that you are not going to have an open mind about anything I say if you even let me answer at all which is likely.
sorry to rehash it again I should have left it
Maybe someone else can explain reality to you. ...
how is that possible when you dont even know my position in the first place!
look I am sorry I brought it up again we should move on, the moderators likely will not like this back and forth
why would they care that there is a discussion on a forum?
DUDE! another question. You are wasting a huge amount of your time becasue I am literally not reading anything after I read something like this. in this case a question.
read the post to find out.
it contains a question and I have already told you not answering questions until you answer mine. seriously though, nobody is reading what you are writing so why are you doing it? oh sorry a question nevermind you dont need to answer, just answer the root question or not
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anyway, I digress, when people talk about consoles vs pcs (notice race cars, golf carts or mobile is not in the equation) the most common Pro for consoles over pcs (notice its between two options) is that consoles are a better deal economically
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You admit quite often to not reading. You consistently choose not to answer questions that you know the answer to.
Trying to put it back on me that you know for a fact that the Rift is consistently under performing is just another chance for you to show that you live as much in a virtual world of your own design than the one the rest of us - including the CEO of Facebook - live in.
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We already know for a FACT that they are not selling as well as expected. We KNOW that. There is no QUESTION. There isn't some kind of.. secret answer. You don't say to all your investors that you have slow sales if you really are exceeding expectations. Nobody does that. "Slow sales" at best is a spin on what would otherwise be considered abysmal growth.
sorry to rehash it again I should have left it
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Unless you can say, 100 percent without a doubt that you have the reason why they reported slow sales when you (supposedly) know they are exceeding expectations, I do not want to hear it. End of story.
look I am sorry I brought it up again we should move on, the moderators likely will not like this back and forth
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Furthermore, you're welcome to your position, but I'm starting to feel that you don't have one. I feel like you realize that your OPINION doesn't change what is currently factual, so you're requiring me to be "open" to your suggestion. If you have a position contrary to facts, go ahead and state it for everyone else.
I don't post for your benefit. I don't respond to you with answers because I expect a response from you. I do so because I disagree with what you say and/or have information to the contrary. It's for the benefit of myself and others that disagree.
Your opinion will not be for my benefit. I posted the answer to your incorrect assumption that "all hardware manufacturers have said they are exceeding expectations" I proved that you are incorrect and your assumption is based on your self-opinionated perception. It is not the current state of things. At the time you challenged my assessment by requiring numbers, instead I pointed you to factual data of the CEO stating their sales were slow.
This is just a recount of how this got started up until this point. You are welcome to post your information, however based on opinion and not based on facts it may be.
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seriously though, nobody is reading what you are writing so why are you doing it? oh sorry a question nevermind you dont need to answer, just answer the root question or not
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
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