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Updated list of completed features and still missing ones

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  • KefoKefo Member EpicPosts: 4,229


    Herase said:



    Kefo said:






    You really should click the link and actually look at the list instead of making wild assumptions.....actually keep making wild assumptions cause it's been a slow weekend and I could use the laughs




    Think it's fair to say they are actually updating and maybe people should look, but look at it as plans than promises, excluding kickstarter/Strech goals of course. When they label everything as a promise the stats become bloated. When you look at stuff that's kickstarter + stretch goals compared to mentioned "wishlist" Items, it's a big difference. 

    Again no harm against it, it's quite good, but just feel the label of promise on everything single items is false thing to put imho


    I've never said to treat it like its the end all be all but something that's in an easy to read list form with sortable headings that you can keep track of things with.
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    edited May 2017
    Kefo said:
    Seems accurate in terms of what's in game.

    What?! Go play the Alpha and come back to me to support that statement. Like that guy posts ago that ate it up that SC has only completed 60 things of the stuff they said... When most of what's available on the Alpha today is not even listed there...

    Then instead of listing features, is when they list dates and lock the completion of something to be about the date, not the feature, that is the ridiculous part of it.

    Over that there is manipulation and twisting, for example, ignoring the facts they also refused to do any changes to Mining in 3.0, they list it as a promise... and that is plain intentional misinformation.
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  • KefoKefo Member EpicPosts: 4,229

    MaxBacon said:

    Kefo said:
    Seems accurate in terms of what's in game.


    What?! Go play the Alpha and come back to me to support that statement. Like that guy posts ago that ate it up that SC has only completed 60 things of the stuff they said... When most of what's available on the Alpha today is not even listed there...

    Then instead of listing features, is when they list dates and lock the completion of something to be about the date, not the feature, that is the ridiculous part of it.

    Over that there is manipulation and twisting, for example, ignoring the facts they also refused to do any changes to Mining in 3.0, they list it as a promise... and that is plain intentional misinformation.


    The list is about all the promises that Chris or CIG have made, not all the planned features. It even says that on the front page of the tracker. You're trying to make this list be something it's not and then condemning it because of that.


  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    edited May 2017
    Kefo said:
    You're trying to make this list be something it's not and then condemning it because of that

    That's pure BS! They are listing all the plans and mentions of features and put them on a list of promises. That's undeniable even from their own put "definition" of what a promise is; you are wrong because by their own definition a planned feature is a promised feature.

    Yet when it comes to adding many things that are completed, those interestingly were not promised by the same definition, lol. So yes, I will condemn them for that.


  • Psychos1sPsychos1s Member UncommonPosts: 196

    MaxBacon said:

    Kefo said:
    You're trying to make this list be something it's not and then condemning it because of that


    That's pure BS! They are listing all the plans and mentions of features and put them on a list of promises. That's undeniable even from their own put "definition" of what a promise is; you are wrong because by their own definition a planned feature is a promised feature.

    Yet when it comes to adding many things that are completed, those interestingly were not promised by the same definition, lol. So yes, I will condemn them for that.




    So it's a list of pure BS listing the pure BS the CEO has been spewing for a number of years.

  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    edited May 2017
    Psychos1s said:

    So it's a list of pure BS listing the pure BS the CEO has been spewing for a number of years.

    lol such a great contribution and argument against the point... gg
  • Psychos1sPsychos1s Member UncommonPosts: 196

    MaxBacon said:



    Psychos1s said:


    So it's a list of pure BS listing the pure BS the CEO has been spewing for a number of years.


    lol such a great contribution and argument against the point... gg


    Such a great contribution that you felt the need to reply to it, thanks for your time and effort.
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    edited May 2017
    Psychos1s said:

    Such a great contribution that you felt the need to reply to it, thanks for your time and effort.

    You're welcome ;)
  • BabuinixBabuinix Member EpicPosts: 4,463

    Kefo said:



    Babuinix said:





    Kefo said:







    Babuinix said:




    Wonderful job, fairly accurate, 90 days. ;)








    Where does it say 90 days on the tracker? Or are you just trying to somehow make this about Derek Smart cause you don't actually have a good argument to try and refute the tracker? 

    Im all for a good discussion but if you're just going to try and troll please go in another thread.






    LoL to be fair I didn't clicked the link as being made by the goons is bound to be the same made up bullshit to attack Chris Roberts, CIG, Star Citizen and it's backers. All because they are still mad that they got banned from the forums and keep getting laughed at by the backers.

    "In 2012 Chris Roberts convinced 34,397 backers on kickstarter to give


    his company $2,134,374 for a space simulation game "Star Citizen" with a


    Wing Commander style single player mode entitled "Squadron 42".


    You only needed 2 phrases to hit the bullshimeter into oblivion hehehe



    I'm sure that's the list that will make Star Citizen collapse, and I bet Chris Roberts can't sleep at night because of it! =)





    You really should click the link and actually look at the list instead of making wild assumptions.....actually keep making wild assumptions cause it's been a slow weekend and I could use the laughs

    I think the list needs more updates and entry's even without clicking on it, also I need more hands to facepalm lol  :3
  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,901
    Did you add to the list: Most extensive cash shop in the history of MMO, that does not have a working game.

    I make fun but I do hope this game come come out one day. I feel for the backers. 
  • kikoodutroa8kikoodutroa8 Member RarePosts: 565
    How's the squadron42 game? I wanted to check some gameplay on yt but couldnt find anything.
  • adamlotus75adamlotus75 Member UncommonPosts: 387
    Its never coming out. Seriously if they had anything we would have seen it. Its years late and all we have are some mo capped clips and a janky tour of a ship.
  • KefoKefo Member EpicPosts: 4,229

    MaxBacon said:

    Kefo said:
    You're trying to make this list be something it's not and then condemning it because of that


    That's pure BS! They are listing all the plans and mentions of features and put them on a list of promises. That's undeniable even from their own put "definition" of what a promise is; you are wrong because by their own definition a planned feature is a promised feature.

    Yet when it comes to adding many things that are completed, those interestingly were not promised by the same definition, lol. So yes, I will condemn them for that.




    They are listing stretch goals and whenever Chris decided to open his big mouth and say they will implement another feature. If the list tracked everything that supposed to be in the game then that not completed/not started/in progress would be even larger and the project would look even sadder then it is
  • BabuinixBabuinix Member EpicPosts: 4,463
    edited May 2017
    I guess Cyberpunk 2077 is never coming out too lol 5 years and only one trailer to show /s

    All games are never coming out until they do lol that's some low effort trolling right there. Time for the haters to up their game imo.



    /suchvapourwaremuchfun =)

  • adamlotus75adamlotus75 Member UncommonPosts: 387
    SQ42 main blocker - implementing AI. In a single player game.
    SC main blocker - servers that can handle more that 24 moving objects.

    Yep. Feeling kinda confident.

    Good progress on cut scenes though.
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    edited May 2017
    Kefo said:

    They are listing stretch goals and whenever Chris decided to open his big mouth and say they will implement another feature. If the list tracked everything that supposed to be in the game then that not completed/not started/in progress would be even larger and the project would look even sadder then it is

    First, you say I am saying it is something is not, then I prove you wrong how that list is ruled by the definition that a mentioned feature or plan, a possibility, is what they call a promised feature, now you come with this rather silly response... Spinning much?! 

  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread Member EpicPosts: 7,254
    edited May 2017


    MaxBacon said:





    Kefo said:



    They are listing stretch goals and whenever Chris decided to open his big mouth and say they will implement another feature. If the list tracked everything that supposed to be in the game then that not completed/not started/in progress would be even larger and the project would look even sadder then it is



    Spinning much?! First, you say I am saying it is something is not, then I prove you wrong how that list is ruled by the definition that a mentioned feature or plan, a possibility, is a promised feature, now you come with this cheap spin...

    Useless to have a discussion with you about this, you are unable of objectivity.


    https://starcitizentracker.github.io/

    In 2012 Chris Roberts convinced 34,397 backers on kickstarter to give his company $2,134,374 for a space simulation game "Star Citizen" with a Wing Commander style single player mode entitled "Squadron 42".

    Chris made and continues to make a lot of promises. StarCitizen Tracker attempts to fact-check Chris and Cloud Imperium Games Corporation to see if they adhere to all promises made concerning the project. This crowdsourced endeavour started on April 17th, 2017 and may contain inaccuracies.

    Accuracy Confidence: 86.6%

    Note: The original source of promises has finished our first pass of review. Thanks to everyone that continues to submit corrections and source links.

    Update: We have changed 'In progress' to 'In alpha' because there was too much conjecture over 2 year old footage qualifing a feature as in progress or not. We hope to re-visit the 'In progress' subject once we have completed our backlogged catalog of promises. 

  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    edited May 2017
    BeansnBread said:
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    What a ridiculous copy paste.

    My point stands, this is not a list of confirmed promised features. Go read their own FAQ and their terms clearly show their definition of a promise is everything and anything that creates one expectation.

    So a Feature mentioned put as MAY or MAY NOT happen is by definition a promise. So many elements on that list are NOT confirmed features.
  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread Member EpicPosts: 7,254

    MaxBacon said:



    BeansnBread said:
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    What a ridiculous copy paste.

    My point stands, this is not a list of confirmed promised features. Go read their own FAQ and their terms clearly show their definition of a promise is everything and anything that creates one expectation.

    So a Feature that was mentioned that MAY or MAY NOT make it to the game, is by definition a promise.


    https://starcitizentracker.github.io/

    In 2012 Chris Roberts convinced 34,397 backers on kickstarter to give his company $2,134,374 for a space simulation game "Star Citizen" with a Wing Commander style single player mode entitled "Squadron 42".

    Chris made and continues to make a lot of promises. StarCitizen Tracker attempts to fact-check Chris and Cloud Imperium Games Corporation to see if they adhere to all promises made concerning the project. This crowdsourced endeavour started on April 17th, 2017 and may contain inaccuracies.

  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846

    BeansnBread said:
    ....

    Point still stands, you can keep copy/pasting that all night long.
  • KefoKefo Member EpicPosts: 4,229

    MaxBacon said:

    BeansnBread said:
    ...


    What a ridiculous copy paste.

    My point stands, this is not a list of confirmed promised features. Go read their own FAQ and their terms clearly show their definition of a promise is everything and anything that creates one expectation.

    So a Feature mentioned put as MAY or MAY NOT happen is by definition a promise. So many elements on that list are NOT confirmed features.


    There are some on that list that can probably be taken as a maybe in the future but most of that list is crap Chris has pitched at cons, or spoken about in interviews and used it to drive sales. 
  • KefoKefo Member EpicPosts: 4,229


    MaxBacon said:

    Kefo said:


    They are listing stretch goals and whenever Chris decided to open his big mouth and say they will implement another feature. If the list tracked everything that supposed to be in the game then that not completed/not started/in progress would be even larger and the project would look even sadder then it is


    First, you say I am saying it is something is not, then I prove you wrong how that list is ruled by the definition that a mentioned feature or plan, a possibility, is what they call a promised feature, now you come with this rather silly response... Spinning much?! 



    I'm really not. I'm saying it's crap Chris has promised. When I say planned features I mean things that are expected to be in game like being able to fly in space (a poor example but it works). So no not spinning but perhaps not being clear when I try to explain things


  • KefoKefo Member EpicPosts: 4,229


    SQ42 main blocker - implementing AI. In a single player game.
    SC main blocker - servers that can handle more that 24 moving objects.

    Yep. Feeling kinda confident.

    Good progress on cut scenes though.


    Lol never thought of it that way. 
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    edited May 2017
    Kefo said:

    There are some on that list that can probably be taken as a maybe in the future but most of that list is crap Chris has pitched at cons, or spoken about in interviews and used it to drive sales. 

    It's irrelevant what he said, if he had NOT confirmed something as a feature of SC.

    The way they put it and merge it all together, what is a confirmed promised feature of SC, and what was mentioned and are possibilities for the game (not confirmed features), only misinforms people on what was really promised.
  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread Member EpicPosts: 7,254
    edited May 2017
    I totally agree that no one should trust Chris Roberts.
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