It's quite funny how a lot of you don't know shit about this game, nothing about owning your own company, nothing about the tech industry in general, but seem to have extremely strong opinions. It's obvious you don't read updates, you don't talk to the devs, you have 0 understanding of a lot of the systems, and the work that's been accomplished. Yet your so positive this game is gonna fail lol. God, what a bunch of fucking idiots.
Yet they have nothing to show for it yet. Nobody cares how much work has been done until then. If they worked on it for 10 more years and kept feeding people information about it we still wouldn't care.
Until there is some proof of concept it's all just hot air.
Yup they've showed absolutely nothing, you're right. Not a single thing has been shown, .. There isn't updates weekly. There isn't NDA disclosed stuff, to show in even more detail on what's been done. They're just sitting on a beach somewhere, collecting checks.
Haven't seen a single video of any of their claims being backed up. Until then, enjoy the echo chamber.
It's quite funny how a lot of you don't know shit about this game, nothing about owning your own company, nothing about the tech industry in general...
I guess that puts "a lot of us" on a par with you then !
The major difference between "us" and you is that you believe everything that Jeromy Walsh tells you, whilst we question the more outlandish claims. So far, "we" have been right every time, while Mr. Walsh has been busy revising, backtracking, rewording and retconning all those things that we challenged originally.
Funny how all these new accounts claiming to be "spreading actual information" and that SBS has been the most honest and transparent dev studio to ever have existed... are accusing everyone who doesn't agree with them as having not done their research.
We didn't just wake up to the game yesterday. Most of us have been following the game's development since the KS was first announced 2 years ago (check the forum history if you don't believe it).
In that time, a lot of interviews were done, announcements made, and articles published.
So next time you accuse everyone else of being a liar, remember... just because YOU didn't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Instead, you can politely ask for the source if you don't believe it.
It's quite funny how a lot of you don't know shit about this game, nothing about owning your own company, nothing about the tech industry in general...
I guess that puts "a lot of us" on a par with you then !
The major difference between "us" and you is that you believe everything that Jeromy Walsh tells you, whilst we question the more outlandish claims. So far, "we" have been right every time, while Mr. Walsh has been busy revising, backtracking, rewording and retconning all those things that we challenged originally.
It's quite funny how a lot of you don't know shit about this game, nothing about owning your own company, nothing about the tech industry in general...
I guess that puts "a lot of us" on a par with you then !
The major difference between "us" and you is that you believe everything that Jeromy Walsh tells you, whilst we question the more outlandish claims. So far, "we" have been right every time, while Mr. Walsh has been busy revising, backtracking, rewording and retconning all those things that we challenged originally.
Just a quick correction; You have been right on development dates, but apart from that the rest is as far as I know still to be seen isnt it "You" have though made several accusations (not intended as a critizising), which could be true and which could be false, but time will show that as well. The only facts we have so far is the original development cycle being far off reason and now as far as I know theres another cycle, which most likely also will be hard to complete. The rest is just speculations in my honest opinion, and arguing about others speculations is quite futile and most likely only attended by diehards on both sides of the fence. I can also add in my speculations, which is only going to be proven righ and/or wrong the moment one or two things happen; 1; the game launches or 2; the game is abandoned. Both will not happen in the next 2 years I suspect. My speculation is the game will release in about 2-3 years with a few of the original ideas, and many other solutions to make the launch and the game itself possible.
It's quite funny how a lot of you don't know shit about this game, nothing about owning your own company, nothing about the tech industry in general, but seem to have extremely strong opinions. It's obvious you don't read updates, you don't talk to the devs, you have 0 understanding of a lot of the systems, and the work that's been accomplished. Yet your so positive this game is gonna fail lol. God, what a bunch of fucking idiots.
Good for you, knowing so much more then everybody else around these parts. A shame you forgot how to be a decent human being, go insult people that might be impressed by your loudmouthing somewhere else, you won't find them here.
I hope this game succeeds, I don't wish ill fortune on anyone. It will be despite its "fans" though, not because of them.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
Pity that most of the people in this discussion have forgot how to be a decent human being, both the haters and the defenders.
Wonder how such hostility could come from both directions over a game that is not even made yet.
Wait.. I know, it's all the fault of this mythical "Ivory Tower".. who also are responsible for the death of JFK, and live in Roswell where they get endless Wi-Fi due to alien technology.
Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
It's quite funny how a lot of you don't know shit about this game, nothing about owning your own company, nothing about the tech industry in general, but seem to have extremely strong opinions. It's obvious you don't read updates, you don't talk to the devs, you have 0 understanding of a lot of the systems, and the work that's been accomplished. Yet your so positive this game is gonna fail lol. God, what a bunch of fucking idiots.
Good for you, knowing so much more then everybody else around these parts. A shame you forgot how to be a decent human being, go insult people that might be impressed by your loudmouthing somewhere else, you won't find them here.
I hope this game succeeds, I don't wish ill fortune on anyone. It will be despite its "fans" though, not because of them.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
If you expect me to feel sorry for shitting on people that spread misinformation, and having strong opinions, while having 0 knowledge? Sorry. Go write your bullshit theories, and retarded opinions in your diary if you don't want to be called out for having a shitty opinion.
Thanks for proving my point.
And please don't feel sorry for me, I am not the one crying here. Also not impressed, you can leave your verbal emo diarreah at the door. Poor Caspian, with friends like these...
/Cheers, Lahnmir
'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
CU was called vaporware for a while as well, people claimed it would never happen, in fact you can find the same pessimism and hubris here on the forums regarding CU if you look, ye here it is, looking like it's coming to life after all.
Funny how that works.
Good thing these formites don't really affect the game, if they did, no game would get made.
Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
It's quite funny how a lot of you don't know shit about this game, nothing about owning your own company, nothing about the tech industry in general, but seem to have extremely strong opinions. It's obvious you don't read updates, you don't talk to the devs, you have 0 understanding of a lot of the systems, and the work that's been accomplished. Yet your so positive this game is gonna fail lol. God, what a bunch of fucking idiots.
Good for you, knowing so much more then everybody else around these parts. A shame you forgot how to be a decent human being, go insult people that might be impressed by your loudmouthing somewhere else, you won't find them here.
I hope this game succeeds, I don't wish ill fortune on anyone. It will be despite its "fans" though, not because of them.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
Pity that most of the people in this discussion have forgot how to be a decent human being, both the haters and the defenders.
Wonder how such hostility could come from both directions over a game that is not even made yet.
Wait.. I know, it's all the fault of this mythical "Ivory Tower".. who also are responsible for the death of JFK, and live in Roswell where they get endless Wi-Fi due to alien technology.
Well, I do think some take the hostility a bit further then others, hence my specific reply. Like I said before, I hope the game succeeds, the signs aren't favourable at the moment though.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
CU was called vaporware for a while as well, people claimed it would never happen, in fact you can find the same pessimism and hubris here on the forums regarding CU if you look, ye here it is, looking like it's coming to life after all.
Funny how that works.
Good thing these formites don't really affect the game, if they did, no game would get made.
Could you please site your source where someone in this thread said that CU was vaporware?
It's quite funny how a lot of you don't know shit about this game, nothing about owning your own company, nothing about the tech industry in general, but seem to have extremely strong opinions. It's obvious you don't read updates, you don't talk to the devs, you have 0 understanding of a lot of the systems, and the work that's been accomplished. Yet your so positive this game is gonna fail lol. God, what a bunch of fucking idiots.
Good for you, knowing so much more then everybody else around these parts. A shame you forgot how to be a decent human being, go insult people that might be impressed by your loudmouthing somewhere else, you won't find them here.
I hope this game succeeds, I don't wish ill fortune on anyone. It will be despite its "fans" though, not because of them.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
Pity that most of the people in this discussion have forgot how to be a decent human being, both the haters and the defenders.
Wonder how such hostility could come from both directions over a game that is not even made yet.
Wait.. I know, it's all the fault of this mythical "Ivory Tower".. who also are responsible for the death of JFK, and live in Roswell where they get endless Wi-Fi due to alien technology.
Well, I do think some take the hostility a bit further then others, hence my specific reply. Like I said before, I hope the game succeeds, the signs aren't favourable at the moment though.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
It depends on how you decide to define succeed Lahnmir I dont doubt much the game will be launced at some point, the question is rather in what state it launces
It's quite funny how a lot of you don't know shit about this game, nothing about owning your own company, nothing about the tech industry in general...
I guess that puts "a lot of us" on a par with you then !
The major difference between "us" and you is that you believe everything that Jeromy Walsh tells you, whilst we question the more outlandish claims. So far, "we" have been right every time, while Mr. Walsh has been busy revising, backtracking, rewording and retconning all those things that we challenged originally.
It's quite funny how a lot of you don't know shit about this game, nothing about owning your own company, nothing about the tech industry in general...
I guess that puts "a lot of us" on a par with you then !
The major difference between "us" and you is that you believe everything that Jeromy Walsh tells you, whilst we question the more outlandish claims. So far, "we" have been right every time, while Mr. Walsh has been busy revising, backtracking, rewording and retconning all those things that we challenged originally.
Just a quick correction; You have been right on development dates, but apart from that the rest is as far as I know still to be seen isnt it "You" have though made several accusations (not intended as a critizising), which could be true and which could be false, but time will show that as well. The only facts we have so far is the original development cycle being far off reason and now as far as I know theres another cycle, which most likely also will be hard to complete. The rest is just speculations in my honest opinion, and arguing about others speculations is quite futile and most likely only attended by diehards on both sides of the fence. I can also add in my speculations, which is only going to be proven righ and/or wrong the moment one or two things happen; 1; the game launches or 2; the game is abandoned. Both will not happen in the next 2 years I suspect. My speculation is the game will release in about 2-3 years with a few of the original ideas, and many other solutions to make the launch and the game itself possible.
Nope.
We also challenged the fact that CoE's dev cycle would be super fast due to them using many off-the-shelf packages, which would supposedly save them man-years of work. Anyone in software development knows the risks in using third-party solutions when you don't have people with extensive prior experience in using those specific solutions. SpatialOS was supposedly going to "make it all possible".
The "off-the-shelf" package they bought for running the website and cash shop was the first red light. What was supposed to have taken 2-3 weeks ended-up taking them several months.
We said that SpatialOS is not a "magic bullet" and is largely unproven bleeding-edge tech. SBS has since abandoned SpatialOS.
We doubted that they would find any "big investor" to back the game. They didn't. In fact, they've had to let some of that tiny team go just recently...
CU was called vaporware for a while as well, people claimed it would never happen, in fact you can find the same pessimism and hubris here on the forums regarding CU if you look, ye here it is, looking like it's coming to life after all.
Funny how that works.
Good thing these formites don't really affect the game, if they did, no game would get made.
Could you please site your source where someone in this thread said that CU was vaporware?
learn to read.
I never said someone from this thread, I said on these forums. And here you go, a whole topic about it.
Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
He never said this thread he said on the CU forums. And the same shit happened with Crowfall. Especially when the first pre alpha PVP videos came out. That's why I'm saying people in here that claim to be "realistic" aren't "realistic". They're negative as fuck, and they're too stupid to even realize that you people exist for every game that's ever gone into production from an indie company especially. You're not the special little snowflake you think you are. The negative idiots like some of you in here are a dime a dozen.
I hope you appreciate the irony as much as I do, that a bunch of people that can't even read a forum post are the ones that claim to be authority about the survival of a game company.
Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
You know, you two sure like to fling a lot of shit for people looking into a mirror.
The only thing you're proving right now is that you aren't capable of reasonable debate. Your toxicity is the real enemy of MMO communities in general and you're so caught up in your pride you don't even see it. One day you will look back on your posts and cringe, wondering what you were thinking in spreading such needless vitriol.
It's quite funny how a lot of you don't know shit about this game, nothing about owning your own company, nothing about the tech industry in general...
I guess that puts "a lot of us" on a par with you then !
The major difference between "us" and you is that you believe everything that Jeromy Walsh tells you, whilst we question the more outlandish claims. So far, "we" have been right every time, while Mr. Walsh has been busy revising, backtracking, rewording and retconning all those things that we challenged originally.
It's quite funny how a lot of you don't know shit about this game, nothing about owning your own company, nothing about the tech industry in general...
I guess that puts "a lot of us" on a par with you then !
The major difference between "us" and you is that you believe everything that Jeromy Walsh tells you, whilst we question the more outlandish claims. So far, "we" have been right every time, while Mr. Walsh has been busy revising, backtracking, rewording and retconning all those things that we challenged originally.
Just a quick correction; You have been right on development dates, but apart from that the rest is as far as I know still to be seen isnt it "You" have though made several accusations (not intended as a critizising), which could be true and which could be false, but time will show that as well. The only facts we have so far is the original development cycle being far off reason and now as far as I know theres another cycle, which most likely also will be hard to complete. The rest is just speculations in my honest opinion, and arguing about others speculations is quite futile and most likely only attended by diehards on both sides of the fence. I can also add in my speculations, which is only going to be proven righ and/or wrong the moment one or two things happen; 1; the game launches or 2; the game is abandoned. Both will not happen in the next 2 years I suspect. My speculation is the game will release in about 2-3 years with a few of the original ideas, and many other solutions to make the launch and the game itself possible.
Nope.
We also challenged the fact that CoE's dev cycle would be super fast due to them using many off-the-shelf packages, which would supposedly save them man-years of work. Anyone in software development knows the risks in using third-party solutions when you don't have people with extensive prior experience in using those specific solutions. SpatialOS was supposedly going to "make it all possible".
The "off-the-shelf" package they bought for running the website and cash shop was the first red light. What was supposed to have taken 2-3 weeks ended-up taking them several months.
We said that SpatialOS is not a "magic bullet" and is largely unproven bleeding-edge tech. SBS has since abandoned SpatialOS.
We doubted that they would find any "big investor" to back the game. They didn't. In fact, they've had to let some of that tiny team go just recently...
The first part comes down to the development cycle, which I already said you were correct about. All the details to why the developement cycle was wrong, you were partially correct about as well, so I dont know why you say im wrong there or exactly what I was wrong about? The second part about the investors, let me correct you there as well; the havent found any big investors YET There will come a point in time where the following will happen; either they get very very lucky and some big company decide to fund their ideas after all (unlikely), OR they will make the game more convenient for big investors (cash shop and whatever makes investors happy). What we probably agree about is the game when/if released will not be the same game it was at the beginning of the KS (but which games are these days)
Concluding I still claim you were correct about one thing; the developement cycle The rest will only be speculations, but I do follow them with interest from both sides of the fence. I personally like people daring to speculate about the pros and cons of companies, big or small. Sometimes these speculations actually is good for the progress or the creativity, if the developers take time and cautiousness in actually digesting the speculations. Sometimes theyre not even harmful, but merely good intentions from outsiders taking an interest in a project because they want it to succeed, but spot flaws undiscovered by the ones constructing the project.
You know, you two sure like to fling a lot of shit for people looking into a mirror.
The only thing you're proving right now is that you aren't capable of reasonable debate. Your toxicity is the real enemy of MMO communities in general and you're so caught up in your pride you don't even see it. One day you will look back on your posts and cringe, wondering what you were thinking in spreading such needless vitriol.
Eh.. I've read enough of your posts to know that you are not one to judge.
Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
You know, you two sure like to fling a lot of shit for people looking into a mirror.
The only thing you're proving right now is that you aren't capable of reasonable debate. Your toxicity is the real enemy of MMO communities in general and you're so caught up in your pride you don't even see it. One day you will look back on your posts and cringe, wondering what you were thinking in spreading such needless vitriol.
Yup... if they posted anything like that on the COE forums they would be insta-banned.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
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You know, you two sure like to fling a lot of shit for people looking into a mirror.
The only thing you're proving right now is that you aren't capable of reasonable debate. Your toxicity is the real enemy of MMO communities in general and you're so caught up in your pride you don't even see it. One day you will look back on your posts and cringe, wondering what you were thinking in spreading such needless vitriol.
What would you like to debate sir, lets do it. You wanna have a serious debate about something? I'm all ears bud. I'm all for it man. I'm a man of many styles, I can do both. Shit on the morons that misrepresent shit, and also have serious discussions. I came in here, and saw a bunch of misinformed blowhards, and i got in that ass. But if you want to talk about something lets do it. You want to debate lets do it.
And to be fair I'm the only toxic one, the fact that you're putting this ungood in the same category as me, shows that your definition of toxic, is anyone who doesn't fall in line with the status quo opinion of this retarded forum.
You know, you two sure like to fling a lot of shit for people looking into a mirror.
The only thing you're proving right now is that you aren't capable of reasonable debate. Your toxicity is the real enemy of MMO communities in general and you're so caught up in your pride you don't even see it. One day you will look back on your posts and cringe, wondering what you were thinking in spreading such needless vitriol.
Yup... if they posted anything like that on the COE forums they would be insta-banned.
Isn't it nap time for you yet? And lets be honest, you wouldn't dare post any of the garbage y ou say on the CoE forums. Because your lack of any sort of research would be even more apparent there. I wouldn't have to fight this stupidity because it would just get thrown back in your face instantly.
CU was called vaporware for a while as well, people claimed it would never happen, in fact you can find the same pessimism and hubris here on the forums regarding CU if you look, ye here it is, looking like it's coming to life after all.
Funny how that works.
Good thing these formites don't really affect the game, if they did, no game would get made.
Could you please site your source where someone in this thread said that CU was vaporware?
learn to read.
I never said someone from this thread, I said on these forums. And here you go, a whole topic about it.
I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, otherwise, I really don't understand why you brought CU up? One has no bearing on the other.
I can do the exact same flawed logic, just in reverse...
"Some people predicted the Eagles would win the Super Bowl. Yet here it is, looking like the Eagles won after all.
Funny how that works.
Good thing these dreamers could affect reality, if they didn't, then the Eagles would never have won."
So what exactly was the point you were trying to make?
I normally avoid forums due to the massive volume of people with unfounded ego and touting unmerited vanity at their own intellectual prowess .. that.. and I have an allergy to stupid people where I break out calling a horse'es ass a horse'es ass.. and most asses don't like being called out , horse or otherwise.
I mean, really, this topic has been a painful view of why society often has low view of gamers in general.
I have the same guy that say Caspian should be held rock solid to anything he says right after a several page long tangent fussing that they personally are not liable for anything they agreed to, and then goes on to say they would keep their word.
yah... so.. that was my introduction to the quality of the people that think this game will fail.
the irony is..it kinda went down hill from there, from people praising pessimism to people to talk about some kind of Illuminati-esq organization surrounding the game.
It's my own fault for responding tho.. I really should have left when the bat shit crazy hit fan.. which was like the 3rd response to me... maybe the second.
Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
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The major difference between "us" and you is that you believe everything that Jeromy Walsh tells you, whilst we question the more outlandish claims. So far, "we" have been right every time, while Mr. Walsh has been busy revising, backtracking, rewording and retconning all those things that we challenged originally.
We didn't just wake up to the game yesterday. Most of us have been following the game's development since the KS was first announced 2 years ago (check the forum history if you don't believe it).
In that time, a lot of interviews were done, announcements made, and articles published.
So next time you accuse everyone else of being a liar, remember... just because YOU didn't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Instead, you can politely ask for the source if you don't believe it.
"You" have though made several accusations (not intended as a critizising), which could be true and which could be false, but time will show that as well. The only facts we have so far is the original development cycle being far off reason and now as far as I know theres another cycle, which most likely also will be hard to complete. The rest is just speculations in my honest opinion, and arguing about others speculations is quite futile and most likely only attended by diehards on both sides of the fence. I can also add in my speculations, which is only going to be proven righ and/or wrong the moment one or two things happen; 1; the game launches or 2; the game is abandoned. Both will not happen in the next 2 years I suspect. My speculation is the game will release in about 2-3 years with a few of the original ideas, and many other solutions to make the launch and the game itself possible.
Wonder how such hostility could come from both directions over a game that is not even made yet.
Wait.. I know, it's all the fault of this mythical "Ivory Tower".. who also are responsible for the death of JFK, and live in Roswell where they get endless Wi-Fi due to alien technology.
And please don't feel sorry for me, I am not the one crying here. Also not impressed, you can leave your verbal emo diarreah at the door. Poor Caspian, with friends like these...
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
Funny how that works.
Good thing these formites don't really affect the game, if they did, no game would get made.
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
We also challenged the fact that CoE's dev cycle would be super fast due to them using many off-the-shelf packages, which would supposedly save them man-years of work. Anyone in software development knows the risks in using third-party solutions when you don't have people with extensive prior experience in using those specific solutions. SpatialOS was supposedly going to "make it all possible".
The "off-the-shelf" package they bought for running the website and cash shop was the first red light. What was supposed to have taken 2-3 weeks ended-up taking them several months.
We said that SpatialOS is not a "magic bullet" and is largely unproven bleeding-edge tech. SBS has since abandoned SpatialOS.
We doubted that they would find any "big investor" to back the game. They didn't. In fact, they've had to let some of that tiny team go just recently...
I never said someone from this thread, I said on these forums. And here you go, a whole topic about it.
You know, you two sure like to fling a lot of shit for people looking into a mirror.
The only thing you're proving right now is that you aren't capable of reasonable debate. Your toxicity is the real enemy of MMO communities in general and you're so caught up in your pride you don't even see it. One day you will look back on your posts and cringe, wondering what you were thinking in spreading such needless vitriol.
The second part about the investors, let me correct you there as well; the havent found any big investors YET There will come a point in time where the following will happen; either they get very very lucky and some big company decide to fund their ideas after all (unlikely), OR they will make the game more convenient for big investors (cash shop and whatever makes investors happy). What we probably agree about is the game when/if released will not be the same game it was at the beginning of the KS (but which games are these days)
Concluding I still claim you were correct about one thing; the developement cycle The rest will only be speculations, but I do follow them with interest from both sides of the fence.
I personally like people daring to speculate about the pros and cons of companies, big or small. Sometimes these speculations actually is good for the progress or the creativity, if the developers take time and cautiousness in actually digesting the speculations. Sometimes theyre not even harmful, but merely good intentions from outsiders taking an interest in a project because they want it to succeed, but spot flaws undiscovered by the ones constructing the project.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
I can do the exact same flawed logic, just in reverse...
"Some people predicted the Eagles would win the Super Bowl. Yet here it is, looking like the Eagles won after all.
Funny how that works.
Good thing these dreamers could affect reality, if they didn't, then the Eagles would never have won."
So what exactly was the point you were trying to make?
Indeed, that's probably the only thing we're in complete agreement about !
I mean, really, this topic has been a painful view of why society often has low view of gamers in general.
I have the same guy that say Caspian should be held rock solid to anything he says right after a several page long tangent fussing that they personally are not liable for anything they agreed to, and then goes on to say they would keep their word.
yah... so.. that was my introduction to the quality of the people that think this game will fail.
the irony is..it kinda went down hill from there, from people praising pessimism to people to talk about some kind of Illuminati-esq organization surrounding the game.
It's my own fault for responding tho.. I really should have left when the bat shit crazy hit fan.. which was like the 3rd response to me... maybe the second.