Here's a fun one for you: I'm married to a Mexican, I live in Mexico City, Spanish is my second language. Shroud of the Avatar's world is Novia. Novia is "girlfriend" in Spanish.
Garriot always kind of sucked with his unimaginative naming... "Lord British", "Britannia"... really? A world named "Novia" is par for the course for him
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Here's a fun one for you: I'm married to a Mexican, I live in Mexico City, Spanish is my second language. Shroud of the Avatar's world is Novia. Novia is "girlfriend" in Spanish.
Garriot always kind of sucked with his unimaginative naming... "Lord British", "Britannia"... really? A world named "Novia" is par for the course for him
What about Gilipollas? Seems like a perfectly legit name but is it?
Are they going to have a translation software to ban all the very bad names?
ahhhahahah that's an awesome example
It's a possibility. You can never go wrong with automating processes to help out with the dev side of things.
Here's a fun one for you: I'm married to a Mexican, I live in Mexico City, Spanish is my second language. Shroud of the Avatar's world is Novia. Novia is "girlfriend" in Spanish.
Garriot always kind of sucked with his unimaginative naming... "Lord British", "Britannia"... really? A world named "Novia" is par for the course for him
I think Garriott chose Lord British as a teenager. Same for Britannia etc... The main characters like Iolo the bard etc... were the character names of his real life friends.
He started in an age when a 16 year old with a PC could make a game in his spare time and sell it in plastic baggies.
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Here's a fun one for you: I'm married to a Mexican, I live in Mexico City, Spanish is my second language. Shroud of the Avatar's world is Novia. Novia is "girlfriend" in Spanish.
Garriot always kind of sucked with his unimaginative naming... "Lord British", "Britannia"... really? A world named "Novia" is par for the course for him
I think Garriott chose Lord British as a teenager. Same for Britannia etc... The main characters like Iolo the bard etc... were the character names of his real life friends.
He started in an age when a 16 year old with a PC could make a game in his spare time and sell it in plastic baggies.
Yes I know but he still does it... arrested development?
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I think Garriott chose Lord British as a teenager. Same for Britannia etc... The main characters like Iolo the bard etc... were the character names of his real life friends.
He started in an age when a 16 year old with a PC could make a game in his spare time and sell it in plastic baggies.
Close, but not entirely His buddies started to call him British, he was about 19 during Akalabeth, and it was on Apple II... I think at that time PC wasn't even a term at all, IBM only launched the first PC 2 years later. The zipper bags were a thing though, and a lot of games were first distributed that way.
By creating a game that enforces RP policies makes this game niche within niche.
I wish them well.
It's not like they are making people "role play" and adopt personas and speak a certain way and utilize lore references ... It's just making sure people aren't jerks with their names.
If people can't handle that then they need to go back to kindergarten.
While I agree with your first paragraph, I find that your comparison to players who don't want to play such strictly rules driven games to "kindergarteners" is pretty unfair. It's simply a difference of opinion.
I personally think the naming convention is a good idea but I won't disparage those who think otherwise.
I'm big believer in knowing what you are getting into and essentially buying into what you agree to.
So if a person doesn't want to take part in such a thing, great, and nothing disparaging toward them. What I'm saying is that if they buy the game, decide to take part, then they agree to the terms. Essentially if people can't handle (not wanting/desiring mind you) sticking with the rules then that's an issue.
For example, if I'm playing on a role playing server I'm not going to give its residents a hard time or try to go against the rules of the server.
if I'm on an FFA server I'm not going to complain and whinge because I'm getting pk'ed
Essentially, be a good guest.
As for Hydrogen... is that any less believable for a fantasy world name than "Karok" or "Jorium"? Or some other made up word/name?
Yes, yes it is, as it is a reference to something well known to be outside the bounds of fantasy settings, whereas Karok and Jorium could quite easily fit in any number of them.
So it's easier for you to believe that an Elf exists and can fly with the snap of his fingers than it is to believe that Hydrogen could be someone's name in a low science setting? I mean, we all know that the laws of science are well defined in that area and snapping a finger does not displace enough air to cause someone to fly. Hydrogen in a fantasy setting would not need to relate to the element and just be associated with someone who was a descendant of the ancient King Hydros. Literally the progeny of Hydros.
To me, it's a very slippery slope to try and place your own judgment on someone else's character.
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By creating a game that enforces RP policies makes this game niche within niche.
I wish them well.
It's not like they are making people "role play" and adopt personas and speak a certain way and utilize lore references ... It's just making sure people aren't jerks with their names.
If people can't handle that then they need to go back to kindergarten.
While I agree with your first paragraph, I find that your comparison to players who don't want to play such strictly rules driven games to "kindergarteners" is pretty unfair. It's simply a difference of opinion.
I personally think the naming convention is a good idea but I won't disparage those who think otherwise.
I'm big believer in knowing what you are getting into and essentially buying into what you agree to.
So if a person doesn't want to take part in such a thing, great, and nothing disparaging toward them. What I'm saying is that if they buy the game, decide to take part, then they agree to the terms. Essentially if people can't handle (not wanting/desiring mind you) sticking with the rules then that's an issue.
For example, if I'm playing on a role playing server I'm not going to give its residents a hard time or try to go against the rules of the server.
if I'm on an FFA server I'm not going to complain and whinge because I'm getting pk'ed
Essentially, be a good guest.
I agree with most of the post. Except for that fact the game isnt a strict rp why enforce strict rp rules? I don't go on rp servers and berate people for rp. I enjoy rp personally and have listed an example previously. I enjoy it in my own way. But the idea that seeing the name BaronBoron will somehow ruin your experience is outlandish to me. And making rules inhibiting someones ability to enjoy the game seems counter productive to me.
By creating a game that enforces RP policies makes this game niche within niche.
I wish them well.
It's not like they are making people "role play" and adopt personas and speak a certain way and utilize lore references ... It's just making sure people aren't jerks with their names.
If people can't handle that then they need to go back to kindergarten.
While I agree with your first paragraph, I find that your comparison to players who don't want to play such strictly rules driven games to "kindergarteners" is pretty unfair. It's simply a difference of opinion.
I personally think the naming convention is a good idea but I won't disparage those who think otherwise.
That's why you are such a nice person, nary a discouraging word..
Now a snarky old cat like me? No problem freely crapping in someone else's sandbox.....or on their opinions if I don't agree.
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By creating a game that enforces RP policies makes this game niche within niche.
I wish them well.
It's not like they are making people "role play" and adopt personas and speak a certain way and utilize lore references ... It's just making sure people aren't jerks with their names.
If people can't handle that then they need to go back to kindergarten.
While I agree with your first paragraph, I find that your comparison to players who don't want to play such strictly rules driven games to "kindergarteners" is pretty unfair. It's simply a difference of opinion.
I personally think the naming convention is a good idea but I won't disparage those who think otherwise.
I'm big believer in knowing what you are getting into and essentially buying into what you agree to.
So if a person doesn't want to take part in such a thing, great, and nothing disparaging toward them. What I'm saying is that if they buy the game, decide to take part, then they agree to the terms. Essentially if people can't handle (not wanting/desiring mind you) sticking with the rules then that's an issue.
For example, if I'm playing on a role playing server I'm not going to give its residents a hard time or try to go against the rules of the server.
if I'm on an FFA server I'm not going to complain and whinge because I'm getting pk'ed
Essentially, be a good guest.
I agree with most of the post. Except for that fact the game isnt a strict rp why enforce strict rp rules? I don't go on rp servers and berate people for rp. I enjoy rp personally and have listed an example previously. I enjoy it in my own way. But the idea that seeing the name BaronBoron will somehow ruin your experience is outlandish to me. And making rules inhibiting someones ability to enjoy the game seems counter productive to me.
Immersion? Better community? Keepign away people who just can't be a part of it?
I'm not a role player but seeing the names that pollute a lot of games makes me cringe.
Why put effort at all to create a world, a city, lore if tinytits101 is going to smudge the landscape?
But like I said, I believe in being a good participant. If a game is made that says all names MUST begin with "Z" then my choice is to be a part of it or not. If "not" then no worries and no hard feelings.
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By creating a game that enforces RP policies makes this game niche within niche.
I wish them well.
It's not like they are making people "role play" and adopt personas and speak a certain way and utilize lore references ... It's just making sure people aren't jerks with their names.
If people can't handle that then they need to go back to kindergarten.
While I agree with your first paragraph, I find that your comparison to players who don't want to play such strictly rules driven games to "kindergarteners" is pretty unfair. It's simply a difference of opinion.
I personally think the naming convention is a good idea but I won't disparage those who think otherwise.
I'm big believer in knowing what you are getting into and essentially buying into what you agree to.
So if a person doesn't want to take part in such a thing, great, and nothing disparaging toward them. What I'm saying is that if they buy the game, decide to take part, then they agree to the terms. Essentially if people can't handle (not wanting/desiring mind you) sticking with the rules then that's an issue.
For example, if I'm playing on a role playing server I'm not going to give its residents a hard time or try to go against the rules of the server.
if I'm on an FFA server I'm not going to complain and whinge because I'm getting pk'ed
Essentially, be a good guest.
As for Hydrogen... is that any less believable for a fantasy world name than "Karok" or "Jorium"? Or some other made up word/name?
Yes, yes it is, as it is a reference to something well known to be outside the bounds of fantasy settings, whereas Karok and Jorium could quite easily fit in any number of them.
So it's easier for you to believe that an Elf exists and can fly with the snap of his fingers than it is to believe that Hydrogen could be someone's name in a low science setting? I mean, we all know that the laws of science are well defined in that area and snapping a finger does not displace enough air to cause someone to fly. Hydrogen in a fantasy setting would not need to relate to the element and just be associated with someone who was a descendant of the ancient King Hydros. Literally the progeny of Hydros.
To me, it's a very slippery slope to try and place your own judgment on someone else's character.
Actually that's just up to context. "yes" if it's a science setting of some sort then "yeah" I can see some sort of "hydrogen" being used.
People can spend all year throwing out names and saying "how about this? Now how about this?!?!?!"
In the end, it's just simpler to either enter the game in the spirit it's created (why the heck would anyone buy a game and not understand its' setting and rules?) or just pass.
Passing is always an option. I wish more players would take advantage of it.
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By creating a game that enforces RP policies makes this game niche within niche.
I wish them well.
It's not like they are making people "role play" and adopt personas and speak a certain way and utilize lore references ... It's just making sure people aren't jerks with their names.
If people can't handle that then they need to go back to kindergarten.
While I agree with your first paragraph, I find that your comparison to players who don't want to play such strictly rules driven games to "kindergarteners" is pretty unfair. It's simply a difference of opinion.
I personally think the naming convention is a good idea but I won't disparage those who think otherwise.
I'm big believer in knowing what you are getting into and essentially buying into what you agree to.
So if a person doesn't want to take part in such a thing, great, and nothing disparaging toward them. What I'm saying is that if they buy the game, decide to take part, then they agree to the terms. Essentially if people can't handle (not wanting/desiring mind you) sticking with the rules then that's an issue.
For example, if I'm playing on a role playing server I'm not going to give its residents a hard time or try to go against the rules of the server.
if I'm on an FFA server I'm not going to complain and whinge because I'm getting pk'ed
Essentially, be a good guest.
As for Hydrogen... is that any less believable for a fantasy world name than "Karok" or "Jorium"? Or some other made up word/name?
Yes, yes it is, as it is a reference to something well known to be outside the bounds of fantasy settings, whereas Karok and Jorium could quite easily fit in any number of them.
So it's easier for you to believe that an Elf exists and can fly with the snap of his fingers than it is to believe that Hydrogen could be someone's name in a low science setting? I mean, we all know that the laws of science are well defined in that area and snapping a finger does not displace enough air to cause someone to fly. Hydrogen in a fantasy setting would not need to relate to the element and just be associated with someone who was a descendant of the ancient King Hydros. Literally the progeny of Hydros.
To me, it's a very slippery slope to try and place your own judgment on someone else's character.
Actually that's just up to context. "yes" if it's a science setting of some sort then "yeah" I can see some sort of "hydrogen" being used.
People can spend all year throwing out names and saying "how about this? Now how about this?!?!?!"
In the end, it's just simpler to either enter the game in the spirit it's created (why the heck would anyone buy a game and not understand its' setting and rules?) or just pass.
Passing is always an option. I wish more players would take advantage of it.
I agree that the developers get to make the rules BUT a system of arbitrary enforcement is just going to end in disaster.
If they really want to do this they should commit to a manual review of each name as the 3 examples given by Renfail all could have legitimate places in a fantasy game.
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This whole thread is precisely why MMOs are dead. People are so focused on the unimportant that no game will ever have a chance because people are going to nitpick it to death.
Try picking up your favorite book and scrutinize it to death... it will quickly become your least favorite book.
Play the game or don't play the game. Back in the day life was as simple as that. And damn if games weren't more enjoyable then too. Not because they were better, because people just played them for what they were.
You'd all rip DoAC, EQ, and what ever title you can think of a new one if it were released today. The problem is not the game... it's the players. They want crap... and like a self-fulfilling prophecy, they manage to turn everything they touch into it.
You don't like some game? Don't play it. It will stand or fail on it's own merits. People are so quick to take up pitchforks on anything and everything. That's the only true entertainment you seek.
I agree that the developers get to make the rules BUT a system of arbitrary enforcement is just going to end in disaster.
If they really want to do this they should commit to a manual review of each name as the 3 examples given by Renfail all could have legitimate places in a fantasy game.
At this point in time, we are using a purely manual process (we're reviewing each character name) and changing if necessary. We've done it a couple of times so far in our pre-alpha; thankfully most folks are pretty "tame" in their naming to-date.
It's a lot of up-front work, but it's what we want to do for preservation of our environment.
Now, long term? Probably not going to be a viable solution. Especially if we hit the upper echelons of population.
At some point, automation has to enter into it. You can't force players to sit around and wait for their name to be manually approved before they log in, or they'll just leave.
Thankfully we have the benefit of having a data scientist as our lead technician, and that's his bread and butter (it's amazing every time I visit the Portalarium offices and get a chance to see some of the things he + the other guys on that team have cooked up in terms of automation and data tracking and the like).
And we'll certainly miss a few that will slip through the cracks (players playing around with alternative languages/etc.), and that's when the community can petition.
I agree that the developers get to make the rules BUT a system of arbitrary enforcement is just going to end in disaster.
If they really want to do this they should commit to a manual review of each name as the 3 examples given by Renfail all could have legitimate places in a fantasy game.
At this point in time, we are using a purely manual process (we're reviewing each character name) and changing if necessary. We've done it a couple of times so far in our pre-alpha; thankfully most folks are pretty "tame" in their naming to-date.
It's a lot of up-front work, but it's what we want to do for preservation of our environment.
Now, long term? Probably not going to be a viable solution. Especially if we hit the upper echelons of population.
At some point, automation has to enter into it. You can't force players to sit around and wait for their name to be manually approved before they log in, or they'll just leave.
Thankfully we have the benefit of having a data scientist as our lead technician, and that's his bread and butter (it's amazing every time I visit the Portalarium offices and get a chance to see some of the things he + the other guys on that team have cooked up in terms of automation and data tracking and the like).
And we'll certainly miss a few that will slip through the cracks (players playing around with alternative languages/etc.), and that's when the community can petition.
Would be able to use a name that is arguable if we come up with a good enough in universe backstory?
I don't disagree... but go back to the examples that Tim gave: DirtyDan, PapaPete and Hydrogen.
What can one say, take it on a per name basis.
Hydrogen doesn't work because it has a very specific meaning.
If it was my game, I wouldn't allow Hydrogen. I might allow the other two though as those could fit. Dirty Dan the Pirate? Papa Pete the tavern owner? those work.
Hydrogen? Nope.
Despite what some might think, I am actually pretty flexible on naming conventions, Hydrogen is OK) especially on normal servers, but if on a RP server where appropriate names are official policy then I expect compliance by all.
The trouble is naming policies are tough to define and uniformly enforce, being largely up to the whim of the "judge."
Regardkess of server type I personally prefer pronouceable names so am loath to see "xyzabc", '''''''''''''''', or, sorry to say, jj7009.
One policy I recall most older games enforcing was against copyrighted names and trademarks. You couldn't get away with "Tylenol", Ex-Lax, or "Crimson Tide."
In Lineage 1 they had such policy, but when I pointed out the server leading S Korean guild Rolex violated the rules I was told it was OK as it was a clan name. (Right)
Of course, prepubescent sexual references such as "BettyBigTits" or drug references like Oxycodone are out.
But these are all my preferences, a few here may agree with some, disagree with others, and have their own list of names they don't care for.
I figure the best approach is to be as flexible as possible and don't let some crabby old cat be the sole arbitrator. (Nor should you agree with all of his reports)
Now, role playing servers are a different situation and as I see it, SOL isn't likely to have more than one server, so role playing it will have to be, with it's more restrictive naming conventions.
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I don't disagree... but go back to the examples that Tim gave: DirtyDan, PapaPete and Hydrogen.
What can one say, take it on a per name basis.
Hydrogen doesn't work because it has a very specific meaning.
If it was my game, I wouldn't allow Hydrogen. I might allow the other two though as those could fit. Dirty Dan the Pirate? Papa Pete the tavern owner? those work.
Hydrogen? Nope.
Despite what some might think, I am actually pretty flexible on naming conventions, Hydrogen is OK) especially on normal servers, but if on a RP server where appropriate names are official policy then I expect compliance by all.
The trouble is naming policies are tough to define and uniformly enforce, being largely up to the whim of the "judge."
Regardkess of server type I personally prefer pronouceable names so am loath to see "xyzabc", '''''''''''''''', or, sorry to say, jj7009.
One policy I recall most older games enforcing was against copyrighted names and trademarks. You couldn't get away with "Tylenol", Ex-Lax, or "Crimson Tide."
In Lineage 1 they had such policy, but when I pointed out the server leading S Korean guild Rolex violated the rules I was told it was OK as it was a clan name. (Right)
Of course, prepubescent sexual references such as "BettyBigTits" or drug references like Oxycodone are out.
But these are all my preferences, a few here may agree with some, disagree with others, and have their own list of names they don't care for.
I figure the best approach is to be as flexible as possible and don't let some crabby old cat be the sole arbitrator. (Nor should you agree with all of his reports)
Now, role playing servers are a different situation and as I see it, SOL isn't likely to have more than one server, so role playing it will have to be, with it's more restrictive naming conventions.
lol i doubt ill ever use this as a character name again.
Here to point out the irony about how a discussion of more options has derailed into a controversy about less options.
Although I prefer it this way, I don't see options as necessarily a good thing.
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lol i doubt ill ever use this as a character name again.
As it should be
names like jj7009 and XxxDragonslayerzxxX should be left to runescape. But thats what a name FILTER is for :P. (Which I am not against. Spaces should not be in names except in special cases such as http://boondockstv.wikia.com/wiki/A_Pimp_Named_Slickback )
If a developer wanted to take naming to a new level they would have an enforced naming convention, but then allow people to "nickname" others. Imagine being able to assign nicknames to players that only you saw. Then if you were friends you could let them know about it and if they approved it could be displayed for your group only instead of the regular name. Maybe even allow you to send messages using said nickname instead of their real "display" name.
By creating a game that enforces RP policies makes this game niche within niche.
I wish them well.
It's not like they are making people "role play" and adopt personas and speak a certain way and utilize lore references ... It's just making sure people aren't jerks with their names.
If people can't handle that then they need to go back to kindergarten.
While I agree with your first paragraph, I find that your comparison to players who don't want to play such strictly rules driven games to "kindergarteners" is pretty unfair. It's simply a difference of opinion.
I personally think the naming convention is a good idea but I won't disparage those who think otherwise.
When I play, I try to use names that are witty and have multiple meanings that tie my character name to the character and generally have some other call out or reference as well. Some are more successful than others, and are almost never in line with RP naming, but at the same time are never trolling. It's just something I do in an attempt to be clever. If I receive private messages about my name when others see it, then I have accomplished my goal.
I've played RP servers where my naming conventions were no well received.
You keep being you, @Renfail I always get a kick out of the way people respond to you as if you just attacked them with a knife.
I've enjoyed reading your threads/posts/blogs since you guys first came out. I love the blunt, honest, no-BS approach you have. I wish the rest of the world was more like you instead of the boot-licking, crowd-pleasers we see everywhere today.
On-Topic: I've quite often seen some "clever" use of foreign languages to circumvent name policies.
Really, when it comes to name-policing, the best tool is the playerbase itself. The best thing you can do for policy enforcement is to set up some really easy-to-use and obvious reporting tools and make sure rules are incredibly clear to the in-game community.
Rambling:
A bit over-the-top, but a cool solution would be community voting on questionable(grey area/borderline) names. Since the goal is to create a social game, it might be simpler to let the community decide as a majority when a name is too "out of place". Especially since people will be deliberately toeing the line.
Some of these posts are taking me back to when I was defending naming polices on old MMOs and what counted as a proper roleplaying name. It is about the actual names, but also the approach people take to this that says so much about them.
If you want to try and cheat a naming convention are you the sort of person anyone would want in their guild? If you are going to argue the toss about how Hydrogen fits in a fantasy world how long is it before we would have to be dealing with your alt "The Dalek" in Age of Conan or Lord of the Rings?
It is as others have said, be a good guest even if you are not a roleplaying or immersion fan.
Some of these posts are taking me back to when I was defending naming polices on old MMOs and what counted as a proper roleplaying name. It is about the actual names, but also the approach people take to this that says so much about them.
If you want to try and cheat a naming convention are you the sort of person anyone would want in their guild? If you are going to argue the toss about how Hydrogen fits in a fantasy world how long is it before we would have to be dealing with your alt "The Dalek" in Age of Conan or Lord of the Rings?
It is as others have said, be a good guest even if you are not a roleplaying or immersion fan.
The point is that there have to be CLEAR and CONSISTENT rules. As mentioned, the best would be for a manual review of the names.
Having an arbitrary decision-making process just leads to chaos and unnecessary drama.
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A clever programmer could eliminate the naming convention issue entirely. Just assign an alias to players names. That way, they can be dumbfuck or whatever on their screen and they will show up as princellla on everyone else's screen. None the wiser unless they dual box and go, wtf is this princella tag over my head?
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ahhhahahah that's an awesome example
It's a possibility. You can never go wrong with automating processes to help out with the dev side of things.
He started in an age when a 16 year old with a PC could make a game in his spare time and sell it in plastic baggies.
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His buddies started to call him British, he was about 19 during Akalabeth, and it was on Apple II... I think at that time PC wasn't even a term at all, IBM only launched the first PC 2 years later.
The zipper bags were a thing though, and a lot of games were first distributed that way.
To me, it's a very slippery slope to try and place your own judgment on someone else's character.
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Now a snarky old cat like me? No problem freely crapping in someone else's sandbox.....or on their opinions if I don't agree.
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If they really want to do this they should commit to a manual review of each name as the 3 examples given by Renfail all could have legitimate places in a fantasy game.
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Try picking up your favorite book and scrutinize it to death... it will quickly become your least favorite book.
Play the game or don't play the game. Back in the day life was as simple as that. And damn if games weren't more enjoyable then too. Not because they were better, because people just played them for what they were.
You'd all rip DoAC, EQ, and what ever title you can think of a new one if it were released today. The problem is not the game... it's the players. They want crap... and like a self-fulfilling prophecy, they manage to turn everything they touch into it.
You don't like some game? Don't play it. It will stand or fail on it's own merits. People are so quick to take up pitchforks on anything and everything. That's the only true entertainment you seek.
It's a lot of up-front work, but it's what we want to do for preservation of our environment.
Now, long term? Probably not going to be a viable solution. Especially if we hit the upper echelons of population.
At some point, automation has to enter into it. You can't force players to sit around and wait for their name to be manually approved before they log in, or they'll just leave.
Thankfully we have the benefit of having a data scientist as our lead technician, and that's his bread and butter (it's amazing every time I visit the Portalarium offices and get a chance to see some of the things he + the other guys on that team have cooked up in terms of automation and data tracking and the like).
And we'll certainly miss a few that will slip through the cracks (players playing around with alternative languages/etc.), and that's when the community can petition.
The trouble is naming policies are tough to define and uniformly enforce, being largely up to the whim of the "judge."
Regardkess of server type I personally prefer pronouceable names so am loath to see "xyzabc", '''''''''''''''', or, sorry to say, jj7009.
One policy I recall most older games enforcing was against copyrighted names and trademarks. You couldn't get away with "Tylenol", Ex-Lax, or "Crimson Tide."
In Lineage 1 they had such policy, but when I pointed out the server leading S Korean guild Rolex violated the rules I was told it was OK as it was a clan name. (Right)
Of course, prepubescent sexual references such as "BettyBigTits" or drug references like Oxycodone are out.
But these are all my preferences, a few here may agree with some, disagree with others, and have their own list of names they don't care for.
I figure the best approach is to be as flexible as possible and don't let some crabby old cat be the sole arbitrator. (Nor should you agree with all of his reports)
Now, role playing servers are a different situation and as I see it, SOL isn't likely to have more than one server, so role playing it will have to be, with it's more restrictive naming conventions.
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Although I prefer it this way, I don't see options as necessarily a good thing.
I've played RP servers where my naming conventions were no well received.
If you want to try and cheat a naming convention are you the sort of person anyone would want in their guild? If you are going to argue the toss about how Hydrogen fits in a fantasy world how long is it before we would have to be dealing with your alt "The Dalek" in Age of Conan or Lord of the Rings?
It is as others have said, be a good guest even if you are not a roleplaying or immersion fan.
Having an arbitrary decision-making process just leads to chaos and unnecessary drama.
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