In Denmark where I am from- We had an issue where a son using his dads card on app store- bought a pair of pants for this avatar, in a game called subway surfer -or I think it was that game. He paid 10.000 DKK which is equivalent to 1.512,88 USD. When the publisher was confronted by the news media he said- its not our fault that the dad didnt have restrictions in app store- and never gave a refund lol.
How is it their fault a dad didnt have restrictions? That's like saying it's the beer companies fault the guy drove drunk and killed someone.
I dont understand how personal responsibility has completely gone away.
Not saying its their fault. I just shared the story!
We should bake them a cake!
We shouldnt post a stupid story that makes it sound like they are the bad guy in that story either.
That response is over the top. People are allowed to have a difference of opinion and having a different opinion on a subject doesn't grant you the right to be insulting.
Are you saying only those with opinions you agree with are allowed to post here? Cause the way he put his "story " in my OPINION purposely put blame on the developers. So I called it out as my OPINION saw it.
His reply was also snarky "we shouldnt bake them a cake" again saying they hold some blame. I dont see you making a comment on that probably because again it's an opinion you agree with.
Btw I'm searching all over for this "story" and not finding it. Be an interesting twist is his story was a lie hmm...
No, she's saying quit being a fucking asshole when it's uncalled for.
Historically, being a smartass to mods, getting called on it, then trying to force the mods' hands against another user, never ends well for the poster.
It is. This idea that the only way to go is down is fear-mongering against changing the status quo. Plain and simple.
EDIT- Also, the representative republic we live in was created to address the situation you warn against.
As always, you have no clue what is the point of a post you are replying to
Considering you incorrectly labeled the government a democracy in an attempt to support your point, you have zero credibility here.
There are key differences between the American government and a real democracy.
Regardless, the original point stands: the assumption that it can only get worse if loot boxes are removed is unsupported by any real data. It's fear-mongering.
In Denmark where I am from- We had an issue where a son using his dads card on app store- bought a pair of pants for this avatar, in a game called subway surfer -or I think it was that game. He paid 10.000 DKK which is equivalent to 1.512,88 USD. When the publisher was confronted by the news media he said- its not our fault that the dad didnt have restrictions in app store- and never gave a refund lol.
How is it their fault a dad didnt have restrictions? That's like saying it's the beer companies fault the guy drove drunk and killed someone.
I dont understand how personal responsibility has completely gone away.
Not saying its their fault. I just shared the story!
We should bake them a cake!
We shouldnt post a stupid story that makes it sound like they are the bad guy in that story either.
That response is over the top. People are allowed to have a difference of opinion and having a different opinion on a subject doesn't grant you the right to be insulting.
Are you saying only those with opinions you agree with are allowed to post here? Cause the way he put his "story " in my OPINION purposely put blame on the developers. So I called it out as my OPINION saw it.
His reply was also snarky "we shouldnt bake them a cake" again saying they hold some blame. I dont see you making a comment on that probably because again it's an opinion you agree with.
Btw I'm searching all over for this "story" and not finding it. Be an interesting twist is his story was a lie hmm...
No, she's saying quit being a fucking asshole when it's uncalled for.
Historically, being a smartass to mods, getting called on it, then trying to force the mods' hands against another user, never ends well for the poster.
I'm on mobile I didnt know they were a "mod" and to be honest that would not have changed my reply. Am i supposed to hold mods on this site to a different standard? If they want to call me out for my opinion on a story i cant find any proof of I will reply as I see fit. Are you a mod? Am i supposed to go easy on you? Or am I going to "force your hand"?
Regardless, the original point stands: the assumption that it can only get worse if loot boxes are removed is unsupported by any real data. It's fear-mongering.
...the idea that loot boxes should be removed is fear-mongering in the first place
Comedy as always...your lack of critical thinking is golden and never fails
Regardless, the original point stands: the assumption that it can only get worse if loot boxes are removed is unsupported by any real data. It's fear-mongering.
...the idea that loot boxes should be removed is fear-mongering in the first place
It's fear-mongering alright the developers are shaking in fear.
I despise loot boxes and the industry practice but I'm not sure i want this Quack of a Senator or any politician for that matter deciding the future of gaming . I'd prefer if Ms. Hassan stuck to whatever it is she does with her day.
In Denmark where I am from- We had an issue where a son using his dads card on app store- bought a pair of pants for this avatar, in a game called subway surfer -or I think it was that game. He paid 10.000 DKK which is equivalent to 1.512,88 USD. When the publisher was confronted by the news media he said- its not our fault that the dad didnt have restrictions in app store- and never gave a refund lol.
How is it their fault a dad didnt have restrictions? That's like saying it's the beer companies fault the guy drove drunk and killed someone.
I dont understand how personal responsibility has completely gone away.
Not saying its their fault. I just shared the story!
We should bake them a cake!
We shouldnt post a stupid story that makes it sound like they are the bad guy in that story either.
That response is over the top. People are allowed to have a difference of opinion and having a different opinion on a subject doesn't grant you the right to be insulting.
Are you saying only those with opinions you agree with are allowed to post here? Cause the way he put his "story " in my OPINION purposely put blame on the developers. So I called it out as my OPINION saw it.
His reply was also snarky "we shouldnt bake them a cake" again saying they hold some blame. I dont see you making a comment on that probably because again it's an opinion you agree with.
Btw I'm searching all over for this "story" and not finding it. Be an interesting twist is his story was a lie hmm...
No, she's saying quit being a fucking asshole when it's uncalled for.
Historically, being a smartass to mods, getting called on it, then trying to force the mods' hands against another user, never ends well for the poster.
I'm on mobile I didnt know they were a "mod" and to be honest that would not have changed my reply. Am i supposed to hold mods on this site to a different standard? If they want to call me out for my opinion on a story i cant find any proof of I will reply as I see fit. Are you a mod? Am i supposed to go easy on you? Or am I going to "force your hand"?
You can hold mods in whatever regard you like; it won't change that she called you out because you were being an asshole to Mensur unnecessarily and you responded with more snark.
Then, when you got called on it again by another poster (me, less diplomatically than Suzie), you tried to call her out about responding to it.
That has never worked in the poster's favor in the past. Suzie and the gang here aren't stupid, and they can see right through that shit.
In Denmark where I am from- We had an issue where a son using his dads card on app store- bought a pair of pants for this avatar, in a game called subway surfer -or I think it was that game. He paid 10.000 DKK which is equivalent to 1.512,88 USD. When the publisher was confronted by the news media he said- its not our fault that the dad didnt have restrictions in app store- and never gave a refund lol.
How is it their fault a dad didnt have restrictions? That's like saying it's the beer companies fault the guy drove drunk and killed someone.
I dont understand how personal responsibility has completely gone away.
Not saying its their fault. I just shared the story!
We should bake them a cake!
We shouldnt post a stupid story that makes it sound like they are the bad guy in that story either.
That response is over the top. People are allowed to have a difference of opinion and having a different opinion on a subject doesn't grant you the right to be insulting.
Are you saying only those with opinions you agree with are allowed to post here? Cause the way he put his "story " in my OPINION purposely put blame on the developers. So I called it out as my OPINION saw it.
His reply was also snarky "we shouldnt bake them a cake" again saying they hold some blame. I dont see you making a comment on that probably because again it's an opinion you agree with.
Btw I'm searching all over for this "story" and not finding it. Be an interesting twist is his story was a lie hmm...
No, she's saying quit being a fucking asshole when it's uncalled for.
Oh so if a "mod" doesnt succeeds at silencing an opposing opinion they send out the goon squad to try to harass, intimidate and threaten that user? Sounds cool have fun I guess.
In Denmark where I am from- We had an issue where a son using his dads card on app store- bought a pair of pants for this avatar, in a game called subway surfer -or I think it was that game. He paid 10.000 DKK which is equivalent to 1.512,88 USD. When the publisher was confronted by the news media he said- its not our fault that the dad didnt have restrictions in app store- and never gave a refund lol.
How is it their fault a dad didnt have restrictions? That's like saying it's the beer companies fault the guy drove drunk and killed someone.
I dont understand how personal responsibility has completely gone away.
Not saying its their fault. I just shared the story!
We should bake them a cake!
We shouldnt post a stupid story that makes it sound like they are the bad guy in that story either.
That response is over the top. People are allowed to have a difference of opinion and having a different opinion on a subject doesn't grant you the right to be insulting.
Are you saying only those with opinions you agree with are allowed to post here? Cause the way he put his "story " in my OPINION purposely put blame on the developers. So I called it out as my OPINION saw it.
His reply was also snarky "we shouldnt bake them a cake" again saying they hold some blame. I dont see you making a comment on that probably because again it's an opinion you agree with.
Btw I'm searching all over for this "story" and not finding it. Be an interesting twist is his story was a lie hmm...
No, she's saying quit being a fucking asshole when it's uncalled for.
Oh so if a "mod" doesnt succeeds at silencing an opposing opinion they send out the goon squad to try to harass, intimidate and threaten that user? Sounds cool have fun I guess.
Nobody was silencing you. You're just trying to play the victim here. What you wrote was rude and insulting. It was pointed out. If they were trying to silence you they would have removed it and banned you. Might still be in your future if carry on whining about this.
I despise loot boxes and the industry practice but I'm not sure i want this Quack of a Senator or any politician for that matter deciding the future of gaming . I'd prefer if Ms. Hassan stuck to whatever it is she does with her day.
All she's really done is scored some points with her constituents. The important thing is the issue has been brought out into the open. It'll be a long time before we actually see any regulation, if ever.
Yeah i know, but do you really want politicians poking their nose into video games. Loot boxes today, guns & explosions in games tomorrow, slippery slope kind of thing. These loons will pander to whoever will listen.
In Denmark where I am from- We had an issue where a son using his dads card on app store- bought a pair of pants for this avatar, in a game called subway surfer -or I think it was that game. He paid 10.000 DKK which is equivalent to 1.512,88 USD. When the publisher was confronted by the news media he said- its not our fault that the dad didnt have restrictions in app store- and never gave a refund lol.
How is it their fault a dad didnt have restrictions? That's like saying it's the beer companies fault the guy drove drunk and killed someone.
I dont understand how personal responsibility has completely gone away.
Not saying its their fault. I just shared the story!
We should bake them a cake!
We shouldnt post a stupid story that makes it sound like they are the bad guy in that story either.
That response is over the top. People are allowed to have a difference of opinion and having a different opinion on a subject doesn't grant you the right to be insulting.
Are you saying only those with opinions you agree with are allowed to post here? Cause the way he put his "story " in my OPINION purposely put blame on the developers. So I called it out as my OPINION saw it.
His reply was also snarky "we shouldnt bake them a cake" again saying they hold some blame. I dont see you making a comment on that probably because again it's an opinion you agree with.
Btw I'm searching all over for this "story" and not finding it. Be an interesting twist is his story was a lie hmm...
No, she's saying quit being a fucking asshole when it's uncalled for.
Historically, being a smartass to mods, getting called on it, then trying to force the mods' hands against another user, never ends well for the poster.
I'm on mobile I didnt know they were a "mod" and to be honest that would not have changed my reply. Am i supposed to hold mods on this site to a different standard? If they want to call me out for my opinion on a story i cant find any proof of I will reply as I see fit. Are you a mod? Am i supposed to go easy on you? Or am I going to "force your hand"?
You can hold mods in whatever regard you like; it won't change that she called you out because you were being an asshole to Mensur unnecessarily and you responded with more snark.
Then, when you got called on it again by another poster (me, less diplomatically than Suzie), you tried to call her out about responding to it.
That has never worked in the poster's favor in the past. Suzie and the gang here aren't stupid, and they can see right through that shit.
Ok serious question.
Would the reply you sent me be left on this site if say I wrote it? I'm being serious nothing against you or others who seem to have some pull around here but it does seem there is a double standard.
Regardless, the original point stands: the assumption that it can only get worse if loot boxes are removed is unsupported by any real data. It's fear-mongering.
...the idea that loot boxes should be removed is fear-mongering in the first place
Comedy as always...your lack of critical thinking is golden and never fails
No, you're just failing to see any nuance. Sure, some of the reasoning used has been fear-mongering, but it's not even debatable these lootbox mechanics leverage the same techniques traditional gambling does to entice spending.
Consumers not wanting that in their entertainment isn't fear-mongering. Nor is investigating the techniques used by companies to push them to see if it unfairly prejudices a consumer's buying decision. If the investigation finds that nothing could be considered predatory, then continued ranting about the "dangers" of lootboxes are easily classified as fear-mongering, too.
But you've already assigned a value to the system, one you believe is irreproachable. You subscribe to the "it will just get worse" mantra to help support it without providing real evidence that it will get worse. Fear-mongering.
In Denmark where I am from- We had an issue where a son using his dads card on app store- bought a pair of pants for this avatar, in a game called subway surfer -or I think it was that game. He paid 10.000 DKK which is equivalent to 1.512,88 USD. When the publisher was confronted by the news media he said- its not our fault that the dad didnt have restrictions in app store- and never gave a refund lol.
How is it their fault a dad didnt have restrictions? That's like saying it's the beer companies fault the guy drove drunk and killed someone.
I dont understand how personal responsibility has completely gone away.
Not saying its their fault. I just shared the story!
We should bake them a cake!
We shouldnt post a stupid story that makes it sound like they are the bad guy in that story either.
That response is over the top. People are allowed to have a difference of opinion and having a different opinion on a subject doesn't grant you the right to be insulting.
Are you saying only those with opinions you agree with are allowed to post here? Cause the way he put his "story " in my OPINION purposely put blame on the developers. So I called it out as my OPINION saw it.
His reply was also snarky "we shouldnt bake them a cake" again saying they hold some blame. I dont see you making a comment on that probably because again it's an opinion you agree with.
Btw I'm searching all over for this "story" and not finding it. Be an interesting twist is his story was a lie hmm...
No, she's saying quit being a fucking asshole when it's uncalled for.
Oh so if a "mod" doesnt succeeds at silencing an opposing opinion they send out the goon squad to try to harass, intimidate and threaten that user? Sounds cool have fun I guess.
Nobody was silencing you. You're just trying to play the victim here. What you wrote was rude and insulting. It was pointed out. If they were trying to silence you they would have removed it and banned you. Might still be in your future if carry on whining about this.
No whining but this does appear to be another attempt at silencing my opinion on his attempt to put the blame on the developers.
Btw if anyone could find his "story" and link it here I would appreciate it. So far the "story" has apparently been deleted from the internet.
In Denmark where I am from- We had an issue where a son using his dads card on app store- bought a pair of pants for this avatar, in a game called subway surfer -or I think it was that game. He paid 10.000 DKK which is equivalent to 1.512,88 USD. When the publisher was confronted by the news media he said- its not our fault that the dad didnt have restrictions in app store- and never gave a refund lol.
How is it their fault a dad didnt have restrictions? That's like saying it's the beer companies fault the guy drove drunk and killed someone.
I dont understand how personal responsibility has completely gone away.
Not saying its their fault. I just shared the story!
We should bake them a cake!
We shouldnt post a stupid story that makes it sound like they are the bad guy in that story either.
That response is over the top. People are allowed to have a difference of opinion and having a different opinion on a subject doesn't grant you the right to be insulting.
Are you saying only those with opinions you agree with are allowed to post here? Cause the way he put his "story " in my OPINION purposely put blame on the developers. So I called it out as my OPINION saw it.
His reply was also snarky "we shouldnt bake them a cake" again saying they hold some blame. I dont see you making a comment on that probably because again it's an opinion you agree with.
Btw I'm searching all over for this "story" and not finding it. Be an interesting twist is his story was a lie hmm...
No, she's saying quit being a fucking asshole when it's uncalled for.
Historically, being a smartass to mods, getting called on it, then trying to force the mods' hands against another user, never ends well for the poster.
I'm on mobile I didnt know they were a "mod" and to be honest that would not have changed my reply. Am i supposed to hold mods on this site to a different standard? If they want to call me out for my opinion on a story i cant find any proof of I will reply as I see fit. Are you a mod? Am i supposed to go easy on you? Or am I going to "force your hand"?
You can hold mods in whatever regard you like; it won't change that she called you out because you were being an asshole to Mensur unnecessarily and you responded with more snark.
Then, when you got called on it again by another poster (me, less diplomatically than Suzie), you tried to call her out about responding to it.
That has never worked in the poster's favor in the past. Suzie and the gang here aren't stupid, and they can see right through that shit.
Ok serious question.
Would the reply you sent me be left on this site if say I wrote it? I'm being serious nothing against you or others who seem to have some pull around here but it does seem there is a double standard.
I see this type of response every time some poster gets it in their head to behave as you do. Suddenly we are some Cabal because we happen to agree with each other and have coloured names. Just because we happen to unanimously agree on a point doesn't mean we are secretly controlling this forum, grow up and stop treating the posters here who have as much right to post here as you do within the rules without resorting to insults.
Regardless, the original point stands: the assumption that it can only get worse if loot boxes are removed is unsupported by any real data. It's fear-mongering.
...the idea that loot boxes should be removed is fear-mongering in the first place
Comedy as always...your lack of critical thinking is golden and never fails
No, you're just failing to see any nuance. Sure, some of the reasoning used has been fear-mongering, but it's not even debatable these lootbox mechanics leverage the same techniques traditional gambling does to entice spending.
Consumers not wanting that in their entertainment isn't fear-mongering. Nor is investigating the techniques used by companies to push them to see if it unfairly prejudices a consumer's buying decision. If the investigation finds that nothing could be considered predatory, then continued ranting about the "dangers" of lootboxes are easily classified as fear-mongering, too.
But you've already assigned a value to the system, one you believe is irreproachable. You subscribe to the "it will just get worse" mantra to help support it without providing real evidence that it will get worse. Fear-mongering.
Most countries disagree with you about the gambling aspect though.
In Denmark where I am from- We had an issue where a son using his dads card on app store- bought a pair of pants for this avatar, in a game called subway surfer -or I think it was that game. He paid 10.000 DKK which is equivalent to 1.512,88 USD. When the publisher was confronted by the news media he said- its not our fault that the dad didnt have restrictions in app store- and never gave a refund lol.
How is it their fault a dad didnt have restrictions? That's like saying it's the beer companies fault the guy drove drunk and killed someone.
I dont understand how personal responsibility has completely gone away.
Not saying its their fault. I just shared the story!
We should bake them a cake!
We shouldnt post a stupid story that makes it sound like they are the bad guy in that story either.
That response is over the top. People are allowed to have a difference of opinion and having a different opinion on a subject doesn't grant you the right to be insulting.
Are you saying only those with opinions you agree with are allowed to post here? Cause the way he put his "story " in my OPINION purposely put blame on the developers. So I called it out as my OPINION saw it.
His reply was also snarky "we shouldnt bake them a cake" again saying they hold some blame. I dont see you making a comment on that probably because again it's an opinion you agree with.
Btw I'm searching all over for this "story" and not finding it. Be an interesting twist is his story was a lie hmm...
No, she's saying quit being a fucking asshole when it's uncalled for.
Historically, being a smartass to mods, getting called on it, then trying to force the mods' hands against another user, never ends well for the poster.
I'm on mobile I didnt know they were a "mod" and to be honest that would not have changed my reply. Am i supposed to hold mods on this site to a different standard? If they want to call me out for my opinion on a story i cant find any proof of I will reply as I see fit. Are you a mod? Am i supposed to go easy on you? Or am I going to "force your hand"?
You can hold mods in whatever regard you like; it won't change that she called you out because you were being an asshole to Mensur unnecessarily and you responded with more snark.
Then, when you got called on it again by another poster (me, less diplomatically than Suzie), you tried to call her out about responding to it.
That has never worked in the poster's favor in the past. Suzie and the gang here aren't stupid, and they can see right through that shit.
Ok serious question.
Would the reply you sent me be left on this site if say I wrote it? I'm being serious nothing against you or others who seem to have some pull around here but it does seem there is a double standard.
If I had posted like an asshole for no real reason, and you called me on it? Likely not. Or likely, as my post might be, it would simply be edited and/or given a warning (I've had multiple warnings in my time here).
The mods here aren't robots, and they have generally considered context when assessing posts, even if they disagree with the post's wording.
In Denmark where I am from- We had an issue where a son using his dads card on app store- bought a pair of pants for this avatar, in a game called subway surfer -or I think it was that game. He paid 10.000 DKK which is equivalent to 1.512,88 USD. When the publisher was confronted by the news media he said- its not our fault that the dad didnt have restrictions in app store- and never gave a refund lol.
How is it their fault a dad didnt have restrictions? That's like saying it's the beer companies fault the guy drove drunk and killed someone.
I dont understand how personal responsibility has completely gone away.
Not saying its their fault. I just shared the story!
We should bake them a cake!
We shouldnt post a stupid story that makes it sound like they are the bad guy in that story either.
That response is over the top. People are allowed to have a difference of opinion and having a different opinion on a subject doesn't grant you the right to be insulting.
Are you saying only those with opinions you agree with are allowed to post here? Cause the way he put his "story " in my OPINION purposely put blame on the developers. So I called it out as my OPINION saw it.
His reply was also snarky "we shouldnt bake them a cake" again saying they hold some blame. I dont see you making a comment on that probably because again it's an opinion you agree with.
Btw I'm searching all over for this "story" and not finding it. Be an interesting twist is his story was a lie hmm...
No, she's saying quit being a fucking asshole when it's uncalled for.
Historically, being a smartass to mods, getting called on it, then trying to force the mods' hands against another user, never ends well for the poster.
I'm on mobile I didnt know they were a "mod" and to be honest that would not have changed my reply. Am i supposed to hold mods on this site to a different standard? If they want to call me out for my opinion on a story i cant find any proof of I will reply as I see fit. Are you a mod? Am i supposed to go easy on you? Or am I going to "force your hand"?
You can hold mods in whatever regard you like; it won't change that she called you out because you were being an asshole to Mensur unnecessarily and you responded with more snark.
Then, when you got called on it again by another poster (me, less diplomatically than Suzie), you tried to call her out about responding to it.
That has never worked in the poster's favor in the past. Suzie and the gang here aren't stupid, and they can see right through that shit.
Ok serious question.
Would the reply you sent me be left on this site if say I wrote it? I'm being serious nothing against you or others who seem to have some pull around here but it does seem there is a double standard.
On a serious note, the mods who carry the axe are like reapers. When they come to collect your soul, your social status won't save you.
Constantine, The Console Poster
"One of the most difficult tasks men can perform, however much others may despise it, is the invention of good games and it cannot be done by men out of touch with their instinctive selves." - Carl Jung
In Denmark where I am from- We had an issue where a son using his dads card on app store- bought a pair of pants for this avatar, in a game called subway surfer -or I think it was that game. He paid 10.000 DKK which is equivalent to 1.512,88 USD. When the publisher was confronted by the news media he said- its not our fault that the dad didnt have restrictions in app store- and never gave a refund lol.
How is it their fault a dad didnt have restrictions? That's like saying it's the beer companies fault the guy drove drunk and killed someone.
I dont understand how personal responsibility has completely gone away.
Not saying its their fault. I just shared the story!
We should bake them a cake!
We shouldnt post a stupid story that makes it sound like they are the bad guy in that story either.
That response is over the top. People are allowed to have a difference of opinion and having a different opinion on a subject doesn't grant you the right to be insulting.
Are you saying only those with opinions you agree with are allowed to post here? Cause the way he put his "story " in my OPINION purposely put blame on the developers. So I called it out as my OPINION saw it.
His reply was also snarky "we shouldnt bake them a cake" again saying they hold some blame. I dont see you making a comment on that probably because again it's an opinion you agree with.
Btw I'm searching all over for this "story" and not finding it. Be an interesting twist is his story was a lie hmm...
No, she's saying quit being a fucking asshole when it's uncalled for.
Historically, being a smartass to mods, getting called on it, then trying to force the mods' hands against another user, never ends well for the poster.
I'm on mobile I didnt know they were a "mod" and to be honest that would not have changed my reply. Am i supposed to hold mods on this site to a different standard? If they want to call me out for my opinion on a story i cant find any proof of I will reply as I see fit. Are you a mod? Am i supposed to go easy on you? Or am I going to "force your hand"?
You can hold mods in whatever regard you like; it won't change that she called you out because you were being an asshole to Mensur unnecessarily and you responded with more snark.
Then, when you got called on it again by another poster (me, less diplomatically than Suzie), you tried to call her out about responding to it.
That has never worked in the poster's favor in the past. Suzie and the gang here aren't stupid, and they can see right through that shit.
Ok serious question.
Would the reply you sent me be left on this site if say I wrote it? I'm being serious nothing against you or others who seem to have some pull around here but it does seem there is a double standard.
If I had posted like an asshole for no real reason, and you called me on it? Likely not. Or likely, as my post might be, it would simply be edited and/or given a warning (I've had multiple warnings in my time here).
The mods here aren't robots, and they have generally considered context when assessing posts, even if they disagree with the post's wording.
Fair enough...
Fyi my post that started this wasn't as bad as you guys have made it out to be. I'm still looking for the "story" btw like I said it would be an interesting twist here if that story ended up being a lie.
In Denmark where I am from- We had an issue where a son using his dads card on app store- bought a pair of pants for this avatar, in a game called subway surfer -or I think it was that game. He paid 10.000 DKK which is equivalent to 1.512,88 USD. When the publisher was confronted by the news media he said- its not our fault that the dad didnt have restrictions in app store- and never gave a refund lol.
How is it their fault a dad didnt have restrictions? That's like saying it's the beer companies fault the guy drove drunk and killed someone.
I dont understand how personal responsibility has completely gone away.
Not saying its their fault. I just shared the story!
We should bake them a cake!
We shouldnt post a stupid story that makes it sound like they are the bad guy in that story either.
That response is over the top. People are allowed to have a difference of opinion and having a different opinion on a subject doesn't grant you the right to be insulting.
Are you saying only those with opinions you agree with are allowed to post here? Cause the way he put his "story " in my OPINION purposely put blame on the developers. So I called it out as my OPINION saw it.
His reply was also snarky "we shouldnt bake them a cake" again saying they hold some blame. I dont see you making a comment on that probably because again it's an opinion you agree with.
Btw I'm searching all over for this "story" and not finding it. Be an interesting twist is his story was a lie hmm...
No, she's saying quit being a fucking asshole when it's uncalled for.
Historically, being a smartass to mods, getting called on it, then trying to force the mods' hands against another user, never ends well for the poster.
I'm on mobile I didnt know they were a "mod" and to be honest that would not have changed my reply. Am i supposed to hold mods on this site to a different standard? If they want to call me out for my opinion on a story i cant find any proof of I will reply as I see fit. Are you a mod? Am i supposed to go easy on you? Or am I going to "force your hand"?
You can hold mods in whatever regard you like; it won't change that she called you out because you were being an asshole to Mensur unnecessarily and you responded with more snark.
Then, when you got called on it again by another poster (me, less diplomatically than Suzie), you tried to call her out about responding to it.
That has never worked in the poster's favor in the past. Suzie and the gang here aren't stupid, and they can see right through that shit.
Ok serious question.
Would the reply you sent me be left on this site if say I wrote it? I'm being serious nothing against you or others who seem to have some pull around here but it does seem there is a double standard.
On a serious note, the mods who carry the axe are like reapers. When they come to collect your soul, your social status won't save you.
True, and Suzie isn't even one of the staff who mods posts.
Moderation is handled by a completely different staff member who never gets involved in the subjects being debated when moderation is needed.
Let's all take a step back and keep the topic in mind with civil discourse as the goal. Insults and profanity won't be tolerated for long so....play nice please.
In Denmark where I am from- We had an issue where a son using his dads card on app store- bought a pair of pants for this avatar, in a game called subway surfer -or I think it was that game. He paid 10.000 DKK which is equivalent to 1.512,88 USD. When the publisher was confronted by the news media he said- its not our fault that the dad didnt have restrictions in app store- and never gave a refund lol.
How is it their fault a dad didnt have restrictions? That's like saying it's the beer companies fault the guy drove drunk and killed someone.
I dont understand how personal responsibility has completely gone away.
Not saying its their fault. I just shared the story!
We should bake them a cake!
We shouldnt post a stupid story that makes it sound like they are the bad guy in that story either.
That response is over the top. People are allowed to have a difference of opinion and having a different opinion on a subject doesn't grant you the right to be insulting.
Are you saying only those with opinions you agree with are allowed to post here? Cause the way he put his "story " in my OPINION purposely put blame on the developers. So I called it out as my OPINION saw it.
His reply was also snarky "we shouldnt bake them a cake" again saying they hold some blame. I dont see you making a comment on that probably because again it's an opinion you agree with.
Btw I'm searching all over for this "story" and not finding it. Be an interesting twist is his story was a lie hmm...
No, she's saying quit being a fucking asshole when it's uncalled for.
Historically, being a smartass to mods, getting called on it, then trying to force the mods' hands against another user, never ends well for the poster.
I'm on mobile I didnt know they were a "mod" and to be honest that would not have changed my reply. Am i supposed to hold mods on this site to a different standard? If they want to call me out for my opinion on a story i cant find any proof of I will reply as I see fit. Are you a mod? Am i supposed to go easy on you? Or am I going to "force your hand"?
You can hold mods in whatever regard you like; it won't change that she called you out because you were being an asshole to Mensur unnecessarily and you responded with more snark.
Then, when you got called on it again by another poster (me, less diplomatically than Suzie), you tried to call her out about responding to it.
That has never worked in the poster's favor in the past. Suzie and the gang here aren't stupid, and they can see right through that shit.
Ok serious question.
Would the reply you sent me be left on this site if say I wrote it? I'm being serious nothing against you or others who seem to have some pull around here but it does seem there is a double standard.
If I had posted like an asshole for no real reason, and you called me on it? Likely not. Or likely, as my post might be, it would simply be edited and/or given a warning (I've had multiple warnings in my time here).
The mods here aren't robots, and they have generally considered context when assessing posts, even if they disagree with the post's wording.
Fair enough...
Fyi my post that started this wasn't as bad as you guys have made it out to be. I'm still looking for the "story" btw like I said it would be an interesting twist here if that story ended up being a lie.
How many apologies would I get:)
I think it was a matter if Mensur simply sharing something he heard/read and your post immediately implying ulterior motives.
I feel like you could've called that into question without making the assumption he was trying to be sneaky. Maybe he misremembered, or maybe it was word-of-mouth that got exaggerated.
There are a lot of perfectly innocent reasons for not finding his story. Tell him you can't find any news of it, and I don't think Suzie or many others would think that was rude or insulting. Assigning a judgement on his motives immediately when he seemingly never even followed the story with an opinion on the issue at hand is what made your post seem unnecessarily rude and aggressive.
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There are key differences between the American government and a real democracy.
Regardless, the original point stands: the assumption that it can only get worse if loot boxes are removed is unsupported by any real data. It's fear-mongering.
Comedy as always...your lack of critical thinking is golden and never fails
Aloha Mr Hand !
Then, when you got called on it again by another poster (me, less diplomatically than Suzie), you tried to call her out about responding to it.
That has never worked in the poster's favor in the past. Suzie and the gang here aren't stupid, and they can see right through that shit.
Aloha Mr Hand !
Red Dead Redemption 2 just introduced MRT too.
Would the reply you sent me be left on this site if say I wrote it? I'm being serious nothing against you or others who seem to have some pull around here but it does seem there is a double standard.
Consumers not wanting that in their entertainment isn't fear-mongering. Nor is investigating the techniques used by companies to push them to see if it unfairly prejudices a consumer's buying decision. If the investigation finds that nothing could be considered predatory, then continued ranting about the "dangers" of lootboxes are easily classified as fear-mongering, too.
But you've already assigned a value to the system, one you believe is irreproachable. You subscribe to the "it will just get worse" mantra to help support it without providing real evidence that it will get worse. Fear-mongering.
Btw if anyone could find his "story" and link it here I would appreciate it. So far the "story" has apparently been deleted from the internet.
https://www.gamerevolution.com/news/460657-uk-loot-boxes-no-link-gambling
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/loot-boxes-are-not-gambling-new-zealand-says/1100-6455608/
https://segmentnext.com/2018/10/01/loot-boxes-gambling/
https://www.casino.org/news/loot-boxes-not-gambling-says-us-video-games-regulator
https://variety.com/2018/gaming/news/france-loot-boxes-1202865706/
So its actually very debatable.
Well maybe not here I guess...
The mods here aren't robots, and they have generally considered context when assessing posts, even if they disagree with the post's wording.
Fyi my post that started this wasn't as bad as you guys have made it out to be. I'm still looking for the "story" btw like I said it would be an interesting twist here if that story ended up being a lie.
How many apologies would I get:)
Moderation is handled by a completely different staff member who never gets involved in the subjects being debated when moderation is needed.
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Thanks for cooperating.
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I feel like you could've called that into question without making the assumption he was trying to be sneaky. Maybe he misremembered, or maybe it was word-of-mouth that got exaggerated.
There are a lot of perfectly innocent reasons for not finding his story. Tell him you can't find any news of it, and I don't think Suzie or many others would think that was rude or insulting. Assigning a judgement on his motives immediately when he seemingly never even followed the story with an opinion on the issue at hand is what made your post seem unnecessarily rude and aggressive.