Lootboxes should be restricted to adults (and it's on the company to insure the person buying it is an adult just like Alcohol). That also means not MARKETING to kids. They should also have the odds clearly posted somewhere.
Do those 2 things and I may not like lootboxes... but think under those circumstances they should be allowed to continue.
Lootboxes should not be banned becuase of subject morales. What next, ban chocolate?
Which part of my 4 sentence post did you somehow misread to see me say they should be banned? I said they should be restricted to adults same as alcohol, or gambling.
Why are you conflating the issue with alcohol?
Its an example of something civilized society has determined should be regulated and restricted to adults.
Well "civilized society" has failed. I'm curious how you plan to do better in a digital venue though.
"Civilized society has failed because I say it has."
What a load of wank.
I'm not surprised the sarcasm went over your head.
It doesn't matter if it was sarcasm.
1) It wasn't humorous.
2) It wasn't presented as being humorous.
3) It made you look like an idiot either way.
And
4) It was the equivalent of throwing your arms into the air and shouting "the way things are is broken." As if that is somehow an actual rhetorical tactic.
And judging by the fact that everyone reacted to that in the same exact way, either you are hopelessly bad at sarcasm, or you are claiming that it was sarcasm to get yourself out of a hole you dug.
Itstimetodeal it is so refreshing to read your posts but you are fighting a battle you can't win...
Refreshing like a glass of cold cum, I'm sure. Because that's what it is. Also, it is awfully hard to win an argument when you're clearly and obviously wrong.
Lootboxes should be restricted to adults (and it's on the company to insure the person buying it is an adult just like Alcohol). That also means not MARKETING to kids. They should also have the odds clearly posted somewhere.
Do those 2 things and I may not like lootboxes... but think under those circumstances they should be allowed to continue.
Hmm weird you think only adults drink.
How weird you think there should be no rules because some people will break them.
Speedlimits? Bah... people ignore those so we should not have them. Just drive 80 down the local boulevard.
Smoking age limit? Well.. you know kids are going to do it anyhow so we should do away with those.
We should just do away with all laws and regulations because some percentage of people will always break them. Right?
No.
You missed the point. If in a civilized society 20% of kids can still find alcohol how do you suggest that number wont get tripled in a virtual environment?
20% of the kids may get alcohol AT TIMES... like a party... but trying to argue that laws about alcohol have no impact or role in keeping the number low is just silly.
So YOU missed the point. Without laws and regulations around alcohol would the percentage of minors using it be higher or lower?
I'll answer it for you... obviously it would be higher, thus the laws and regulations have a positive effect in limiting alcohol consumption and abuse in minors.
So you can argue that regulating lootboxes is imperfect and I would agree but it's certainly much better than no regulations at all.
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It's not about winning especially on this site. These guys just gang up together and try to push out anyone who doesnt agree with them.
I have contractors at the house, no internet so taking care of some work and taking on mmorpg super users. I take no offense in their hostility I'm just hear to provide my views, facts and enjoy some discussion.
It's a digital product so it apparently doesn't matter so there is that....
I get that and I didn't mean the "winning" litteraly.
The thing is, one day you realize that:
1) These guys are actually serious about all their...stuff...they say. 2) They are uncapable to comperehend any point you are making.
Alas, enjoy the fun till it lasts/the work on your house is done! And thanks again!
Lootboxes should be restricted to adults (and it's on the company to insure the person buying it is an adult just like Alcohol). That also means not MARKETING to kids. They should also have the odds clearly posted somewhere.
Do those 2 things and I may not like lootboxes... but think under those circumstances they should be allowed to continue.
Lootboxes should not be banned becuase of subject morales. What next, ban chocolate?
Which part of my 4 sentence post did you somehow misread to see me say they should be banned? I said they should be restricted to adults same as alcohol, or gambling.
Why are you conflating the issue with alcohol?
Its an example of something civilized society has determined should be regulated and restricted to adults.
Well "civilized society" has failed. I'm curious how you plan to do better in a digital venue though.
"Civilized society has failed because I say it has."
What a load of wank.
I'm not surprised the sarcasm went over your head.
It doesn't matter if it was sarcasm.
1) It wasn't humorous.
2) It wasn't presented as being humorous.
3) It made you look like an idiot either way.
And
4) It was the equivalent of throwing your arms into the air and shouting "the way things are is broken." As if that is somehow an actual rhetorical tactic.
And judging by the fact that everyone reacted to that in the same exact way, either you are hopelessly bad at sarcasm, or you are claiming that it was sarcasm to get yourself out of a hole you dug.
Itstimetodeal it is so refreshing to read your posts but you are fighting a battle you can't win...
Refreshing like a glass of cold cum, I'm sure. Because that's what it is. Also, it is awfully hard to win an argument when you're clearly and obviously wrong.
"EVERYONE" You mean the 4 or 5 tough, cool mmorpg super users? Yeah in case you missed it I really dont care what you guys think of me. I will take it as a badge of honor you guys are out to get me.
It's not about winning especially on this site. These guys just gang up together and try to push out anyone who doesnt agree with them.
I have contractors at the house, no internet so taking care of some work and taking on mmorpg super users. I take no offense in their hostility I'm just hear to provide my views, facts and enjoy some discussion.
It's a digital product so it apparently doesn't matter so there is that....
I get that and I didn't mean the "winning" litteraly.
The thing is, one day you realize that:
1) These guys are actually serious about all their...stuff...they say. 2) They are uncapable to comperehend any point you are making.
Alas, enjoy the fun till it lasts/the work on your house is done! And thanks again!
Lootboxes should be restricted to adults (and it's on the company to insure the person buying it is an adult just like Alcohol). That also means not MARKETING to kids. They should also have the odds clearly posted somewhere.
Do those 2 things and I may not like lootboxes... but think under those circumstances they should be allowed to continue.
Lootboxes should not be banned becuase of subject morales. What next, ban chocolate?
Which part of my 4 sentence post did you somehow misread to see me say they should be banned? I said they should be restricted to adults same as alcohol, or gambling.
Why are you conflating the issue with alcohol?
Its an example of something civilized society has determined should be regulated and restricted to adults.
Well "civilized society" has failed. I'm curious how you plan to do better in a digital venue though.
"Civilized society has failed because I say it has."
What a load of wank.
I'm not surprised the sarcasm went over your head.
It doesn't matter if it was sarcasm.
1) It wasn't humorous.
2) It wasn't presented as being humorous.
3) It made you look like an idiot either way.
And
4) It was the equivalent of throwing your arms into the air and shouting "the way things are is broken." As if that is somehow an actual rhetorical tactic.
And judging by the fact that everyone reacted to that in the same exact way, either you are hopelessly bad at sarcasm, or you are claiming that it was sarcasm to get yourself out of a hole you dug.
Itstimetodeal it is so refreshing to read your posts but you are fighting a battle you can't win...
Refreshing like a glass of cold cum, I'm sure. Because that's what it is. Also, it is awfully hard to win an argument when you're clearly and obviously wrong.
"EVERYONE" You mean the 4 or 5 tough, cool mmorpg super users? Yeah in case you missed it I really dont care what you guys think of me. I will take it as a badge of honor you guys are out to get me.
Lootboxes should be restricted to adults (and it's on the company to insure the person buying it is an adult just like Alcohol). That also means not MARKETING to kids. They should also have the odds clearly posted somewhere.
Do those 2 things and I may not like lootboxes... but think under those circumstances they should be allowed to continue.
Lootboxes should not be banned becuase of subject morales. What next, ban chocolate?
Which part of my 4 sentence post did you somehow misread to see me say they should be banned? I said they should be restricted to adults same as alcohol, or gambling.
Why are you conflating the issue with alcohol?
Its an example of something civilized society has determined should be regulated and restricted to adults.
Well "civilized society" has failed. I'm curious how you plan to do better in a digital venue though.
"Civilized society has failed because I say it has."
What a load of wank.
I'm not surprised the sarcasm went over your head.
It doesn't matter if it was sarcasm.
1) It wasn't humorous.
2) It wasn't presented as being humorous.
3) It made you look like an idiot either way.
And
4) It was the equivalent of throwing your arms into the air and shouting "the way things are is broken." As if that is somehow an actual rhetorical tactic.
And judging by the fact that everyone reacted to that in the same exact way, either you are hopelessly bad at sarcasm, or you are claiming that it was sarcasm to get yourself out of a hole you dug.
Itstimetodeal it is so refreshing to read your posts but you are fighting a battle you can't win...
Refreshing like a glass of cold cum, I'm sure. Because that's what it is. Also, it is awfully hard to win an argument when you're clearly and obviously wrong.
"EVERYONE" You mean the 4 or 5 tough, cool mmorpg super users? Yeah in case you missed it I really dont care what you guys think of me. I will take it as a badge of honor you guys are out to get me.
Apparently, you do.
And what's with the need to try and insult everyone? Just chill and respond to posts and don't take crap personally if people disagree with you. (though his last part was really not needed, lumping everyone disagreeing with you as "4 or 5 tough, cool mmorpg super users" is similarly not needed and undercuts any argument you might want to make.)
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
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Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
Lootboxes should be restricted to adults (and it's on the company to insure the person buying it is an adult just like Alcohol). That also means not MARKETING to kids. They should also have the odds clearly posted somewhere.
Do those 2 things and I may not like lootboxes... but think under those circumstances they should be allowed to continue.
Lootboxes should not be banned becuase of subject morales. What next, ban chocolate?
Which part of my 4 sentence post did you somehow misread to see me say they should be banned? I said they should be restricted to adults same as alcohol, or gambling.
Why are you conflating the issue with alcohol?
Its an example of something civilized society has determined should be regulated and restricted to adults.
Well "civilized society" has failed. I'm curious how you plan to do better in a digital venue though.
"Civilized society has failed because I say it has."
What a load of wank.
I'm not surprised the sarcasm went over your head.
It doesn't matter if it was sarcasm.
1) It wasn't humorous.
2) It wasn't presented as being humorous.
3) It made you look like an idiot either way.
And
4) It was the equivalent of throwing your arms into the air and shouting "the way things are is broken." As if that is somehow an actual rhetorical tactic.
And judging by the fact that everyone reacted to that in the same exact way, either you are hopelessly bad at sarcasm, or you are claiming that it was sarcasm to get yourself out of a hole you dug.
Itstimetodeal it is so refreshing to read your posts but you are fighting a battle you can't win...
Refreshing like a glass of cold cum, I'm sure. Because that's what it is. Also, it is awfully hard to win an argument when you're clearly and obviously wrong.
"EVERYONE" You mean the 4 or 5 tough, cool mmorpg super users? Yeah in case you missed it I really dont care what you guys think of me. I will take it as a badge of honor you guys are out to get me.
That is the definition of everyone, as it applies here, as it is almost every reply to you.
I mean, other than gdemami, but that's hardly an endorsement, because gdemami isn't viewed with credibility on these forums. Never has been. Never will be.
Anyway, I'm not out to get you. You're as irrelevant as anyone else here. It's the argument you've made that matters. Words on the screen to be argued or approved of. That's all any of us are.
Lootboxes should be restricted to adults (and it's on the company to insure the person buying it is an adult just like Alcohol). That also means not MARKETING to kids. They should also have the odds clearly posted somewhere.
Do those 2 things and I may not like lootboxes... but think under those circumstances they should be allowed to continue.
Lootboxes should not be banned becuase of subject morales. What next, ban chocolate?
Which part of my 4 sentence post did you somehow misread to see me say they should be banned? I said they should be restricted to adults same as alcohol, or gambling.
Why are you conflating the issue with alcohol?
Its an example of something civilized society has determined should be regulated and restricted to adults.
Well "civilized society" has failed. I'm curious how you plan to do better in a digital venue though.
"Civilized society has failed because I say it has."
What a load of wank.
I'm not surprised the sarcasm went over your head.
It doesn't matter if it was sarcasm.
1) It wasn't humorous.
2) It wasn't presented as being humorous.
3) It made you look like an idiot either way.
And
4) It was the equivalent of throwing your arms into the air and shouting "the way things are is broken." As if that is somehow an actual rhetorical tactic.
And judging by the fact that everyone reacted to that in the same exact way, either you are hopelessly bad at sarcasm, or you are claiming that it was sarcasm to get yourself out of a hole you dug.
Itstimetodeal it is so refreshing to read your posts but you are fighting a battle you can't win...
Refreshing like a glass of cold cum, I'm sure. Because that's what it is. Also, it is awfully hard to win an argument when you're clearly and obviously wrong.
"EVERYONE" You mean the 4 or 5 tough, cool mmorpg super users? Yeah in case you missed it I really dont care what you guys think of me. I will take it as a badge of honor you guys are out to get me.
Out to get you?
yeah since like the 7 post on this thread. It's been entertaining for sure.
Lootboxes should be restricted to adults (and it's on the company to insure the person buying it is an adult just like Alcohol). That also means not MARKETING to kids. They should also have the odds clearly posted somewhere.
Do those 2 things and I may not like lootboxes... but think under those circumstances they should be allowed to continue.
Lootboxes should not be banned becuase of subject morales. What next, ban chocolate?
Which part of my 4 sentence post did you somehow misread to see me say they should be banned? I said they should be restricted to adults same as alcohol, or gambling.
Why are you conflating the issue with alcohol?
Its an example of something civilized society has determined should be regulated and restricted to adults.
Well "civilized society" has failed. I'm curious how you plan to do better in a digital venue though.
"Civilized society has failed because I say it has."
What a load of wank.
I'm not surprised the sarcasm went over your head.
It doesn't matter if it was sarcasm.
1) It wasn't humorous.
2) It wasn't presented as being humorous.
3) It made you look like an idiot either way.
And
4) It was the equivalent of throwing your arms into the air and shouting "the way things are is broken." As if that is somehow an actual rhetorical tactic.
And judging by the fact that everyone reacted to that in the same exact way, either you are hopelessly bad at sarcasm, or you are claiming that it was sarcasm to get yourself out of a hole you dug.
Itstimetodeal it is so refreshing to read your posts but you are fighting a battle you can't win...
Refreshing like a glass of cold cum, I'm sure. Because that's what it is. Also, it is awfully hard to win an argument when you're clearly and obviously wrong.
"EVERYONE" You mean the 4 or 5 tough, cool mmorpg super users? Yeah in case you missed it I really dont care what you guys think of me. I will take it as a badge of honor you guys are out to get me.
Out to get you?
yeah since like the 7 post on this thread. It's been entertaining for sure.
Lol if you think so, but I think you're seeing what you wanna see here.
Any topic you bring up will likely be responded to based on the content. If you posted tomorrow about Dual Universe, this topic won't govern the responses you get unless you're merely using DU as an example to reference the same points you're describing here.
Lootboxes should be restricted to adults (and it's on the company to insure the person buying it is an adult just like Alcohol). That also means not MARKETING to kids. They should also have the odds clearly posted somewhere.
Do those 2 things and I may not like lootboxes... but think under those circumstances they should be allowed to continue.
Lootboxes should not be banned becuase of subject morales. What next, ban chocolate?
Which part of my 4 sentence post did you somehow misread to see me say they should be banned? I said they should be restricted to adults same as alcohol, or gambling.
Why are you conflating the issue with alcohol?
Its an example of something civilized society has determined should be regulated and restricted to adults.
Well "civilized society" has failed. I'm curious how you plan to do better in a digital venue though.
"Civilized society has failed because I say it has."
What a load of wank.
I'm not surprised the sarcasm went over your head.
It doesn't matter if it was sarcasm.
1) It wasn't humorous.
2) It wasn't presented as being humorous.
3) It made you look like an idiot either way.
And
4) It was the equivalent of throwing your arms into the air and shouting "the way things are is broken." As if that is somehow an actual rhetorical tactic.
And judging by the fact that everyone reacted to that in the same exact way, either you are hopelessly bad at sarcasm, or you are claiming that it was sarcasm to get yourself out of a hole you dug.
Itstimetodeal it is so refreshing to read your posts but you are fighting a battle you can't win...
Refreshing like a glass of cold cum, I'm sure. Because that's what it is. Also, it is awfully hard to win an argument when you're clearly and obviously wrong.
"EVERYONE" You mean the 4 or 5 tough, cool mmorpg super users? Yeah in case you missed it I really dont care what you guys think of me. I will take it as a badge of honor you guys are out to get me.
Apparently, you do.
And what's with the need to try and insult everyone? Just chill and respond to posts and don't take crap personally if people disagree with you. (though his last part was really not needed, lumping everyone disagreeing with you as "4 or 5 tough, cool mmorpg super users" is similarly not needed and undercuts any argument you might want to make.)
I haven't insulted "everyone". You guys just take my opinion as insults because they dont conform to the group think here. It's ok dont take it personal.
Lootboxes should be restricted to adults (and it's on the company to insure the person buying it is an adult just like Alcohol). That also means not MARKETING to kids. They should also have the odds clearly posted somewhere.
Do those 2 things and I may not like lootboxes... but think under those circumstances they should be allowed to continue.
Lootboxes should not be banned becuase of subject morales. What next, ban chocolate?
Which part of my 4 sentence post did you somehow misread to see me say they should be banned? I said they should be restricted to adults same as alcohol, or gambling.
Why are you conflating the issue with alcohol?
Its an example of something civilized society has determined should be regulated and restricted to adults.
Well "civilized society" has failed. I'm curious how you plan to do better in a digital venue though.
"Civilized society has failed because I say it has."
What a load of wank.
I'm not surprised the sarcasm went over your head.
It doesn't matter if it was sarcasm.
1) It wasn't humorous.
2) It wasn't presented as being humorous.
3) It made you look like an idiot either way.
And
4) It was the equivalent of throwing your arms into the air and shouting "the way things are is broken." As if that is somehow an actual rhetorical tactic.
And judging by the fact that everyone reacted to that in the same exact way, either you are hopelessly bad at sarcasm, or you are claiming that it was sarcasm to get yourself out of a hole you dug.
Itstimetodeal it is so refreshing to read your posts but you are fighting a battle you can't win...
Refreshing like a glass of cold cum, I'm sure. Because that's what it is. Also, it is awfully hard to win an argument when you're clearly and obviously wrong.
"EVERYONE" You mean the 4 or 5 tough, cool mmorpg super users? Yeah in case you missed it I really dont care what you guys think of me. I will take it as a badge of honor you guys are out to get me.
Out to get you?
yeah since like the 7 post on this thread. It's been entertaining for sure.
When you post something, people have the prerogative to reply. When you keep posting, people gain new opportunities to reply. That isn't out to get you. It's a conversation of your own making, and it does not matter how many people are replying to you.
"Out to get you" would be pursuing you outside of the thread or forums. That's when it gets out of line. That is when you aren't inviting it.
One thing about the link to the UK is that they said not gambling but it is disturbing. They are trying to figure out where it stands legally for who and what needs to be looking into the loot boxes. The laws do not give them the ability to do anything since the loot boxes does not equate to what the legal of gambling is. Just because they said was not gambling does not mean they said it was a practice that was not dangerous.
Lootboxes should be restricted to adults (and it's on the company to insure the person buying it is an adult just like Alcohol). That also means not MARKETING to kids. They should also have the odds clearly posted somewhere.
Do those 2 things and I may not like lootboxes... but think under those circumstances they should be allowed to continue.
Lootboxes should not be banned becuase of subject morales. What next, ban chocolate?
Which part of my 4 sentence post did you somehow misread to see me say they should be banned? I said they should be restricted to adults same as alcohol, or gambling.
Why are you conflating the issue with alcohol?
Its an example of something civilized society has determined should be regulated and restricted to adults.
Well "civilized society" has failed. I'm curious how you plan to do better in a digital venue though.
"Civilized society has failed because I say it has."
What a load of wank.
I'm not surprised the sarcasm went over your head.
It doesn't matter if it was sarcasm.
1) It wasn't humorous.
2) It wasn't presented as being humorous.
3) It made you look like an idiot either way.
And
4) It was the equivalent of throwing your arms into the air and shouting "the way things are is broken." As if that is somehow an actual rhetorical tactic.
And judging by the fact that everyone reacted to that in the same exact way, either you are hopelessly bad at sarcasm, or you are claiming that it was sarcasm to get yourself out of a hole you dug.
Itstimetodeal it is so refreshing to read your posts but you are fighting a battle you can't win...
Refreshing like a glass of cold cum, I'm sure. Because that's what it is. Also, it is awfully hard to win an argument when you're clearly and obviously wrong.
"EVERYONE" You mean the 4 or 5 tough, cool mmorpg super users? Yeah in case you missed it I really dont care what you guys think of me. I will take it as a badge of honor you guys are out to get me.
Out to get you?
yeah since like the 7 post on this thread. It's been entertaining for sure.
When you post something, people have the prerogative to reply. When you keep posting, people gain new opportunities to reply. That isn't out to get you. It's a conversation of your own making, and it does not matter how many people are replying to you.
"Out to get you" would be pursuing you outside of the thread or forums. That's when it gets out of line. That is when you aren't inviting it.
I agree it doesn't matter how many. But when you lied (again) and said "everyone" I just wanted to correct you (again).
Lootboxes should be restricted to adults (and it's on the company to insure the person buying it is an adult just like Alcohol). That also means not MARKETING to kids. They should also have the odds clearly posted somewhere.
Do those 2 things and I may not like lootboxes... but think under those circumstances they should be allowed to continue.
Lootboxes should not be banned becuase of subject morales. What next, ban chocolate?
Which part of my 4 sentence post did you somehow misread to see me say they should be banned? I said they should be restricted to adults same as alcohol, or gambling.
Why are you conflating the issue with alcohol?
Its an example of something civilized society has determined should be regulated and restricted to adults.
Well "civilized society" has failed. I'm curious how you plan to do better in a digital venue though.
"Civilized society has failed because I say it has."
What a load of wank.
I'm not surprised the sarcasm went over your head.
It doesn't matter if it was sarcasm.
1) It wasn't humorous.
2) It wasn't presented as being humorous.
3) It made you look like an idiot either way.
And
4) It was the equivalent of throwing your arms into the air and shouting "the way things are is broken." As if that is somehow an actual rhetorical tactic.
And judging by the fact that everyone reacted to that in the same exact way, either you are hopelessly bad at sarcasm, or you are claiming that it was sarcasm to get yourself out of a hole you dug.
Itstimetodeal it is so refreshing to read your posts but you are fighting a battle you can't win...
Refreshing like a glass of cold cum, I'm sure. Because that's what it is. Also, it is awfully hard to win an argument when you're clearly and obviously wrong.
"EVERYONE" You mean the 4 or 5 tough, cool mmorpg super users? Yeah in case you missed it I really dont care what you guys think of me. I will take it as a badge of honor you guys are out to get me.
Apparently, you do.
And what's with the need to try and insult everyone? Just chill and respond to posts and don't take crap personally if people disagree with you. (though his last part was really not needed, lumping everyone disagreeing with you as "4 or 5 tough, cool mmorpg super users" is similarly not needed and undercuts any argument you might want to make.)
I haven't insulted "everyone". You guys just take my opinion as insults because they dont conform to the group think here. It's ok dont take it personal.
So it wasn't mean as an insult when you said "4 or 5 tough, cool mmorpg super users"? OK. I doubt that but let's move back to the topic which you never responded to:
20% of the kids may get alcohol AT TIMES... like a party... but trying to argue that laws about alcohol have no impact or role in keeping the number low is just silly.
So YOU missed the point. Without laws and regulations around alcohol would the percentage of minors using it be higher or lower?
I'll answer it for you... obviously it would be higher, thus the laws and regulations have a positive effect in limiting alcohol consumption and abuse in minors.
So you can argue that regulating lootboxes is imperfect and I would agree but it's certainly much better than no regulations at all.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
Lootboxes should be restricted to adults (and it's on the company to insure the person buying it is an adult just like Alcohol). That also means not MARKETING to kids. They should also have the odds clearly posted somewhere.
Do those 2 things and I may not like lootboxes... but think under those circumstances they should be allowed to continue.
Lootboxes should not be banned becuase of subject morales. What next, ban chocolate?
Which part of my 4 sentence post did you somehow misread to see me say they should be banned? I said they should be restricted to adults same as alcohol, or gambling.
Why are you conflating the issue with alcohol?
Its an example of something civilized society has determined should be regulated and restricted to adults.
Well "civilized society" has failed. I'm curious how you plan to do better in a digital venue though.
"Civilized society has failed because I say it has."
What a load of wank.
I'm not surprised the sarcasm went over your head.
It doesn't matter if it was sarcasm.
1) It wasn't humorous.
2) It wasn't presented as being humorous.
3) It made you look like an idiot either way.
And
4) It was the equivalent of throwing your arms into the air and shouting "the way things are is broken." As if that is somehow an actual rhetorical tactic.
And judging by the fact that everyone reacted to that in the same exact way, either you are hopelessly bad at sarcasm, or you are claiming that it was sarcasm to get yourself out of a hole you dug.
Itstimetodeal it is so refreshing to read your posts but you are fighting a battle you can't win...
Refreshing like a glass of cold cum, I'm sure. Because that's what it is. Also, it is awfully hard to win an argument when you're clearly and obviously wrong.
"EVERYONE" You mean the 4 or 5 tough, cool mmorpg super users? Yeah in case you missed it I really dont care what you guys think of me. I will take it as a badge of honor you guys are out to get me.
Out to get you?
yeah since like the 7 post on this thread. It's been entertaining for sure.
When you post something, people have the prerogative to reply. When you keep posting, people gain new opportunities to reply. That isn't out to get you. It's a conversation of your own making, and it does not matter how many people are replying to you.
"Out to get you" would be pursuing you outside of the thread or forums. That's when it gets out of line. That is when you aren't inviting it.
I agree it doesn't matter how many. But when you lied (again) and said "everyone" I just wanted to correct you (again).
Except that it wasn't a lie. Literally every reply to your post had *gasps* the same reaction. Even your one friend didn't post until after you called it sarcasm.
So yes. Everyone. It doesn't have to be everyone in the entire world to be true. It just has to be everyone who applies.
Lootboxes should be restricted to adults (and it's on the company to insure the person buying it is an adult just like Alcohol). That also means not MARKETING to kids. They should also have the odds clearly posted somewhere.
Do those 2 things and I may not like lootboxes... but think under those circumstances they should be allowed to continue.
Lootboxes should not be banned becuase of subject morales. What next, ban chocolate?
Which part of my 4 sentence post did you somehow misread to see me say they should be banned? I said they should be restricted to adults same as alcohol, or gambling.
Why are you conflating the issue with alcohol?
Its an example of something civilized society has determined should be regulated and restricted to adults.
Well "civilized society" has failed. I'm curious how you plan to do better in a digital venue though.
"Civilized society has failed because I say it has."
What a load of wank.
I'm not surprised the sarcasm went over your head.
It doesn't matter if it was sarcasm.
1) It wasn't humorous.
2) It wasn't presented as being humorous.
3) It made you look like an idiot either way.
And
4) It was the equivalent of throwing your arms into the air and shouting "the way things are is broken." As if that is somehow an actual rhetorical tactic.
And judging by the fact that everyone reacted to that in the same exact way, either you are hopelessly bad at sarcasm, or you are claiming that it was sarcasm to get yourself out of a hole you dug.
Itstimetodeal it is so refreshing to read your posts but you are fighting a battle you can't win...
Refreshing like a glass of cold cum, I'm sure. Because that's what it is. Also, it is awfully hard to win an argument when you're clearly and obviously wrong.
"EVERYONE" You mean the 4 or 5 tough, cool mmorpg super users? Yeah in case you missed it I really dont care what you guys think of me. I will take it as a badge of honor you guys are out to get me.
Apparently, you do.
And what's with the need to try and insult everyone? Just chill and respond to posts and don't take crap personally if people disagree with you. (though his last part was really not needed, lumping everyone disagreeing with you as "4 or 5 tough, cool mmorpg super users" is similarly not needed and undercuts any argument you might want to make.)
I haven't insulted "everyone". You guys just take my opinion as insults because they dont conform to the group think here. It's ok dont take it personal.
So it wasn't mean as an insult when you said "4 or 5 tough, cool mmorpg super users"? OK. I doubt that but let's move back to the topic which you never responded to:
20% of the kids may get alcohol AT TIMES... like a party... but trying to argue that laws about alcohol have no impact or role in keeping the number low is just silly.
So YOU missed the point. Without laws and regulations around alcohol would the percentage of minors using it be higher or lower?
I'll answer it for you... obviously it would be higher, thus the laws and regulations have a positive effect in limiting alcohol consumption and abuse in minors.
So you can argue that regulating lootboxes is imperfect and I would agree but it's certainly much better than no regulations at all.
No I agree the laws on alcohol are needed. I dont think their needs to be laws on purchases inside a video game.
Lootboxes should be restricted to adults (and it's on the company to insure the person buying it is an adult just like Alcohol). That also means not MARKETING to kids. They should also have the odds clearly posted somewhere.
Do those 2 things and I may not like lootboxes... but think under those circumstances they should be allowed to continue.
Lootboxes should not be banned becuase of subject morales. What next, ban chocolate?
Which part of my 4 sentence post did you somehow misread to see me say they should be banned? I said they should be restricted to adults same as alcohol, or gambling.
Why are you conflating the issue with alcohol?
Its an example of something civilized society has determined should be regulated and restricted to adults.
Well "civilized society" has failed. I'm curious how you plan to do better in a digital venue though.
"Civilized society has failed because I say it has."
What a load of wank.
I'm not surprised the sarcasm went over your head.
It doesn't matter if it was sarcasm.
1) It wasn't humorous.
2) It wasn't presented as being humorous.
3) It made you look like an idiot either way.
And
4) It was the equivalent of throwing your arms into the air and shouting "the way things are is broken." As if that is somehow an actual rhetorical tactic.
And judging by the fact that everyone reacted to that in the same exact way, either you are hopelessly bad at sarcasm, or you are claiming that it was sarcasm to get yourself out of a hole you dug.
Itstimetodeal it is so refreshing to read your posts but you are fighting a battle you can't win...
Refreshing like a glass of cold cum, I'm sure. Because that's what it is. Also, it is awfully hard to win an argument when you're clearly and obviously wrong.
"EVERYONE" You mean the 4 or 5 tough, cool mmorpg super users? Yeah in case you missed it I really dont care what you guys think of me. I will take it as a badge of honor you guys are out to get me.
Apparently, you do.
And what's with the need to try and insult everyone? Just chill and respond to posts and don't take crap personally if people disagree with you. (though his last part was really not needed, lumping everyone disagreeing with you as "4 or 5 tough, cool mmorpg super users" is similarly not needed and undercuts any argument you might want to make.)
I haven't insulted "everyone". You guys just take my opinion as insults because they dont conform to the group think here. It's ok dont take it personal.
So it wasn't mean as an insult when you said "4 or 5 tough, cool mmorpg super users"? OK. I doubt that but let's move back to the topic which you never responded to:
20% of the kids may get alcohol AT TIMES... like a party... but trying to argue that laws about alcohol have no impact or role in keeping the number low is just silly.
So YOU missed the point. Without laws and regulations around alcohol would the percentage of minors using it be higher or lower?
I'll answer it for you... obviously it would be higher, thus the laws and regulations have a positive effect in limiting alcohol consumption and abuse in minors.
So you can argue that regulating lootboxes is imperfect and I would agree but it's certainly much better than no regulations at all.
No I agree the laws on alcohol are needed. I dont think their needs to be laws on purchases inside a video game.
OK. That's progress. Your prior posts made it seem as though because the laws about alcohol were not perfect (you said 20% get access) that it was pointless.
So you agree that some laws to restrict the access to minors to certain things is needed and that they are beneficial. This is good progress.
Now it is just a matter of opinion whether or not lootboxes should be included in similar regulations. I believe they should. You have a different opinion. That's fine. That's why we vote for representatives that align with our beliefs.
See... nobody out to get you.
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I'll answer it for you... obviously it would be higher, thus the laws and regulations have a positive effect in limiting alcohol consumption and abuse in minors.
...obviously you have something to back such claim up, right?
Lootboxes should be restricted to adults (and it's on the company to insure the person buying it is an adult just like Alcohol). That also means not MARKETING to kids. They should also have the odds clearly posted somewhere.
Do those 2 things and I may not like lootboxes... but think under those circumstances they should be allowed to continue.
Lootboxes should not be banned becuase of subject morales. What next, ban chocolate?
Which part of my 4 sentence post did you somehow misread to see me say they should be banned? I said they should be restricted to adults same as alcohol, or gambling.
Why are you conflating the issue with alcohol?
Its an example of something civilized society has determined should be regulated and restricted to adults.
Well "civilized society" has failed. I'm curious how you plan to do better in a digital venue though.
What great society can anarchists point to as the highpoint of that philosophy?
well since there is ong and other groups who tend to help, because society and goverments failed then, could mean what anarchists mean when people do what they want. cutting people freedom, based on fear or control back fired several times over the year, history tell us that
I'll answer it for you... obviously it would be higher, thus the laws and regulations have a positive effect in limiting alcohol consumption and abuse in minors.
...obviously have something to back such claim up, right?
Yeah. It's called common sense. If I need to explain something as basic as that comment you question to you then there is no point including you in the discussion. Which is why I normally don't
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Lootboxes should be restricted to adults (and it's on the company to insure the person buying it is an adult just like Alcohol). That also means not MARKETING to kids. They should also have the odds clearly posted somewhere.
Do those 2 things and I may not like lootboxes... but think under those circumstances they should be allowed to continue.
Lootboxes should not be banned becuase of subject morales. What next, ban chocolate?
Which part of my 4 sentence post did you somehow misread to see me say they should be banned? I said they should be restricted to adults same as alcohol, or gambling.
Why are you conflating the issue with alcohol?
Its an example of something civilized society has determined should be regulated and restricted to adults.
Well "civilized society" has failed. I'm curious how you plan to do better in a digital venue though.
"Civilized society has failed because I say it has."
What a load of wank.
I'm not surprised the sarcasm went over your head.
It doesn't matter if it was sarcasm.
1) It wasn't humorous.
2) It wasn't presented as being humorous.
3) It made you look like an idiot either way.
And
4) It was the equivalent of throwing your arms into the air and shouting "the way things are is broken." As if that is somehow an actual rhetorical tactic.
And judging by the fact that everyone reacted to that in the same exact way, either you are hopelessly bad at sarcasm, or you are claiming that it was sarcasm to get yourself out of a hole you dug.
Itstimetodeal it is so refreshing to read your posts but you are fighting a battle you can't win...
Refreshing like a glass of cold cum, I'm sure. Because that's what it is. Also, it is awfully hard to win an argument when you're clearly and obviously wrong.
"EVERYONE" You mean the 4 or 5 tough, cool mmorpg super users? Yeah in case you missed it I really dont care what you guys think of me. I will take it as a badge of honor you guys are out to get me.
Apparently, you do.
And what's with the need to try and insult everyone? Just chill and respond to posts and don't take crap personally if people disagree with you. (though his last part was really not needed, lumping everyone disagreeing with you as "4 or 5 tough, cool mmorpg super users" is similarly not needed and undercuts any argument you might want to make.)
I haven't insulted "everyone". You guys just take my opinion as insults because they dont conform to the group think here. It's ok dont take it personal.
So it wasn't mean as an insult when you said "4 or 5 tough, cool mmorpg super users"? OK. I doubt that but let's move back to the topic which you never responded to:
20% of the kids may get alcohol AT TIMES... like a party... but trying to argue that laws about alcohol have no impact or role in keeping the number low is just silly.
So YOU missed the point. Without laws and regulations around alcohol would the percentage of minors using it be higher or lower?
I'll answer it for you... obviously it would be higher, thus the laws and regulations have a positive effect in limiting alcohol consumption and abuse in minors.
So you can argue that regulating lootboxes is imperfect and I would agree but it's certainly much better than no regulations at all.
No I agree the laws on alcohol are needed. I dont think their needs to be laws on purchases inside a video game.
OK. That's progress. Your prior posts made it seem as though because the laws about alcohol were not perfect (you said 20% get access) that it was pointless.
So you agree that some laws to restrict the access to minors to certain things is needed and that they are beneficial. This is good progress.
Now it is just a matter of opinion whether or not lootboxes should be included in similar regulations. I believe they should. You have a different opinion. That's fine. That's why we vote for representatives that align with our beliefs.
See... nobody out to get you.
Psst Aeander is going through all my post...that might be classified as "out to get me". No worries if that's what he wants to do with his time fine by me.
Lootboxes should be restricted to adults (and it's on the company to insure the person buying it is an adult just like Alcohol). That also means not MARKETING to kids. They should also have the odds clearly posted somewhere.
Do those 2 things and I may not like lootboxes... but think under those circumstances they should be allowed to continue.
Lootboxes should not be banned becuase of subject morales. What next, ban chocolate?
Which part of my 4 sentence post did you somehow misread to see me say they should be banned? I said they should be restricted to adults same as alcohol, or gambling.
Why are you conflating the issue with alcohol?
Its an example of something civilized society has determined should be regulated and restricted to adults.
Well "civilized society" has failed. I'm curious how you plan to do better in a digital venue though.
What great society can anarchists point to as the highpoint of that philosophy?
well since there is ong and other groups who tend to help, because society and goverments failed then, could mean what anarchists mean when people do what they want. cutting people freedom, based on fear or control back fired several times over the year, history tell us that
So what great society has followed the ideals of anarchy? Not sure I followed your response. What country is ong? Was that Congo?
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I'll answer it for you... obviously it would be higher, thus the laws and regulations have a positive effect in limiting alcohol consumption and abuse in minors.
...obviously you have something to back such claim up, right?
really depends, laws make it dificult not impossible, and the farther from citys is less enforced are laws, remember how well did go the ban on alcohol. and how well are on drugs, teaching and sharing knowledge prevents more damage then laws do.
Just because you find something "obvious" does not make it common sense... It would be common sense not to speak bs that is lacking any backing...
Regardless, one could make a parallel with countries where cannabis use was made legal - it did not show any sign of spike in usage due broader aviability. In fact usage of alcohol or drugs usually goes in waves depending on social trends and other economical and social factors regardless of regulations.
I guess one could try to look into alcohol prohibition era and I wouldn't be suprised to see absolutely no effect either. But hey, why bother with facts when you have your "common (non)sense"...
Comments
1) It wasn't humorous.
2) It wasn't presented as being humorous.
3) It made you look like an idiot either way.
And
4) It was the equivalent of throwing your arms into the air and shouting "the way things are is broken." As if that is somehow an actual rhetorical tactic.
And judging by the fact that everyone reacted to that in the same exact way, either you are hopelessly bad at sarcasm, or you are claiming that it was sarcasm to get yourself out of a hole you dug.
Refreshing like a glass of cold cum, I'm sure. Because that's what it is. Also, it is awfully hard to win an argument when you're clearly and obviously wrong.
So YOU missed the point. Without laws and regulations around alcohol would the percentage of minors using it be higher or lower?
I'll answer it for you... obviously it would be higher, thus the laws and regulations have a positive effect in limiting alcohol consumption and abuse in minors.
So you can argue that regulating lootboxes is imperfect and I would agree but it's certainly much better than no regulations at all.
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The thing is, one day you realize that:
1) These guys are actually serious about all their...stuff...they say.
2) They are uncapable to comperehend any point you are making.
Alas, enjoy the fun till it lasts/the work on your house is done! And thanks again!
And what's with the need to try and insult everyone? Just chill and respond to posts and don't take crap personally if people disagree with you. (though his last part was really not needed, lumping everyone disagreeing with you as "4 or 5 tough, cool mmorpg super users" is similarly not needed and undercuts any argument you might want to make.)
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I mean, other than gdemami, but that's hardly an endorsement, because gdemami isn't viewed with credibility on these forums. Never has been. Never will be.
Anyway, I'm not out to get you. You're as irrelevant as anyone else here. It's the argument you've made that matters. Words on the screen to be argued or approved of. That's all any of us are.
Any topic you bring up will likely be responded to based on the content. If you posted tomorrow about Dual Universe, this topic won't govern the responses you get unless you're merely using DU as an example to reference the same points you're describing here.
"Out to get you" would be pursuing you outside of the thread or forums. That's when it gets out of line. That is when you aren't inviting it.
20% of the kids may get alcohol AT TIMES... like a party... but trying to argue that laws about alcohol have no impact or role in keeping the number low is just silly.
So YOU missed the point. Without laws and regulations around alcohol would the percentage of minors using it be higher or lower?
I'll answer it for you... obviously it would be higher, thus the laws and regulations have a positive effect in limiting alcohol consumption and abuse in minors.
So you can argue that regulating lootboxes is imperfect and I would agree but it's certainly much better than no regulations at all.
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So yes. Everyone. It doesn't have to be everyone in the entire world to be true. It just has to be everyone who applies.
So you agree that some laws to restrict the access to minors to certain things is needed and that they are beneficial. This is good progress.
Now it is just a matter of opinion whether or not lootboxes should be included in similar regulations. I believe they should. You have a different opinion. That's fine. That's why we vote for representatives that align with our beliefs.
See... nobody out to get you.
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Regardless, one could make a parallel with countries where cannabis use was made legal - it did not show any sign of spike in usage due broader aviability. In fact usage of alcohol or drugs usually goes in waves depending on social trends and other economical and social factors regardless of regulations.
I guess one could try to look into alcohol prohibition era and I wouldn't be suprised to see absolutely no effect either. But hey, why bother with facts when you have your "common (non)sense"...