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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,938
    Gorwe said:
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    I'll be honest:

    I don't prefer this because it causes some kind of Lust in me and reminds me of things I don't / want to have. I also dislike losing control. And this shit's all about losing control and being vulnerable / depowered.
    hmmm, I don't really think that's a universal truth.

    Having said that, if that's what you want (not sure how to read that that sentence) then go out and get.

    Unless you are a priest then I completely understand.
    Well...it's difficult. I...this whole thing is kinda difficult for me. Fvck.

    I definitely want more initiative from the other side in this matter.

    Also, who said it was universal, it is just my completely subjective experience.

    Edit: Also, I wish it was that easy. Especially when I don't seek pure One Night Stands.
    I was responding to your last line which wasn't clear if you were saying that as a Universal truth or your experience.

    Also, remember, there is a lid for every pot. Something I've learned over my years of dating.

    Lastly, go to your female friends and pick their brains. Maybe you put out a vibe that seems "standoffish" or unapproachable.

    It's a solvable problem if you think it's a problem you want to solve.  Off topic but "good luck!"
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  • alkarionlogalkarionlog Member EpicPosts: 3,584
    Ungood said:
    Gorwe said:
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    I'll be honest:

    I don't prefer this because it causes some kind of Lust in me and reminds me of things I don't / want to have. I also dislike losing control. And this shit's all about losing control and being vulnerable / depowered.
    hmmm, I don't really think that's a universal truth.

    Having said that, if that's what you want (not sure how to read that that sentence) then go out and get.

    Unless you are a priest then I completely understand.
    Well...it's difficult. I...this whole thing is kinda difficult for me. Fvck.

    I definitely want more initiative from the other side in this matter.

    Also, who said it was universal, it is just my completely subjective experience.

    Edit: Also, I wish it was that easy. Especially when I don't seek pure One Night Stands.
    Ok, a little off topic, but.. Eh.. One Night Stands are horrible.. if they didn't come back for at least round two, that means you didn't give it a good go.

    As the saying goes -  it's not about having sex with a million women, it's about finding that one you want to have sex with a million times - Paraphrased from Wilt Chamberlain. 

    too bad its not how it works
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  • GorweGorwe Member Posts: 1,609
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    I'll be honest:

    I don't prefer this because it causes some kind of Lust in me and reminds me of things I don't / want to have. I also dislike losing control. And this shit's all about losing control and being vulnerable / depowered.
    hmmm, I don't really think that's a universal truth.

    Having said that, if that's what you want (not sure how to read that that sentence) then go out and get.

    Unless you are a priest then I completely understand.
    Well...it's difficult. I...this whole thing is kinda difficult for me. Fvck.

    I definitely want more initiative from the other side in this matter.

    Also, who said it was universal, it is just my completely subjective experience.

    Edit: Also, I wish it was that easy. Especially when I don't seek pure One Night Stands.
    I was responding to your last line which wasn't clear if you were saying that as a Universal truth or your experience.

    Also, remember, there is a lid for every pot. Something I've learned over my years of dating.

    Lastly, go to your female friends and pick their brains. Maybe you put out a vibe that seems "standoffish" or unapproachable.

    It's a solvable problem if you think it's a problem you want to solve.  Off topic but "good luck!"
    If I had (female) friends, I prefer to have acquiantances and to have my own little freedom. Otherwise it could be easy.

    And dating? How is that even done? Go to a random...social place? Sounds so not me.
    AlBQuirky said:
    Gorwe said:
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    I'll be honest:

    I don't prefer this because it causes some kind of Lust in me and reminds me of things I don't / want to have. I also dislike losing control. And this shit's all about losing control and being vulnerable / depowered.
    hmmm, I don't really think that's a universal truth.

    Having said that, if that's what you want (not sure how to read that that sentence) then go out and get.

    Unless you are a priest then I completely understand.
    Well...it's difficult. I...this whole thing is kinda difficult for me. Fvck.

    I definitely want more initiative from the other side in this matter.

    Also, who said it was universal, it is just my completely subjective experience.

    Edit: Also, I wish it was that easy. Especially when I don't seek pure One Night Stands.
    I believe I'm with you here.

    Sex means more to me than simple "mutual orgasms." It is one expression of my love for another. I know society celebrates the sexual revolution, but like many things in life, that passed me by, too. How old fashioned and outdated... "sex only for expressing one's love." So last millennium :lol:

    I hope I'm not way off-base here :)
    Very nice. Though, it's not really that. I don't really feel good about...it's my fabled "love" of new things* showing again, probably. It's not even about power vacuum, it's about an extremely new experience with potentialy far reaching consequences. I...don't even look for defacto relationship, the more freedom, the better.

    *What exactly happened to me and my Openness to New Experiences?
    AlBQuirky
  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    Ungood said:
    Gorwe said:
    Well...it's difficult. I...this whole thing is kinda difficult for me. Fvck.

    I definitely want more initiative from the other side in this matter.

    Also, who said it was universal, it is just my completely subjective experience.

    Edit: Also, I wish it was that easy. Especially when I don't seek pure One Night Stands.
    Ok, a little off topic, but.. Eh.. One Night Stands are horrible.. if they didn't come back for at least round two, that means you didn't give it a good go.

    As the saying goes -  it's not about having sex with a million women, it's about finding that one you want to have sex with a million times - Paraphrased from Wilt Chamberlain. 

    too bad its not how it works
    It might be how it works for you.. but it's been working pretty well for me.
    AlBQuirky
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  • Big.Daddy.SamediBig.Daddy.Samedi Member UncommonPosts: 411
    Sovrath said:
    Amathe said:
    Nanfoodle said:
    ... Im kinda a bit of a prude.
    So, nickname now Nanprudel?
    Is it a "lol" or an "insightful ... " not sure ...

    Damnit, I am glad my laptop is water resistant... I legit spit my drink all over my sreen and keyboard.....

    THANKS
    SovrathAlBQuirky

  • PalebanePalebane Member RarePosts: 4,011
    Second Life takes sex in MMORPGs to a whole new level. So may sizes and shapes, positions and places. They used to have brothels with real people working.
    AlBQuirky

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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,429
    Palebane said:
    Second Life takes sex in MMORPGs to a whole new level. So may sizes and shapes, positions and places. They used to have brothels with real people working.
    What happened? Did the police turn up and close them down? :)
    AlBQuirkyPalebane
  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    imagination is greater then reality.
    you are not wrong

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    Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.

  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,843
    Ungood said:
    Gorwe said:
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    I'll be honest:

    I don't prefer this because it causes some kind of Lust in me and reminds me of things I don't / want to have. I also dislike losing control. And this shit's all about losing control and being vulnerable / depowered.
    hmmm, I don't really think that's a universal truth.

    Having said that, if that's what you want (not sure how to read that that sentence) then go out and get.

    Unless you are a priest then I completely understand.
    Well...it's difficult. I...this whole thing is kinda difficult for me. Fvck.

    I definitely want more initiative from the other side in this matter.

    Also, who said it was universal, it is just my completely subjective experience.

    Edit: Also, I wish it was that easy. Especially when I don't seek pure One Night Stands.
    Ok, a little off topic, but.. Eh.. One Night Stands are horrible.. if they didn't come back for at least round two, that means you didn't give it a good go.

    As the saying goes -  it's not about having sex with a million women, it's about finding that one you want to have sex with a million times - Paraphrased from Wilt Chamberlain. 
    A million times? Just her?! Wilt never said that...
    AlBQuirky
  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    bcbully said:
    Ungood said:
    Gorwe said:
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    I'll be honest:

    I don't prefer this because it causes some kind of Lust in me and reminds me of things I don't / want to have. I also dislike losing control. And this shit's all about losing control and being vulnerable / depowered.
    hmmm, I don't really think that's a universal truth.

    Having said that, if that's what you want (not sure how to read that that sentence) then go out and get.

    Unless you are a priest then I completely understand.
    Well...it's difficult. I...this whole thing is kinda difficult for me. Fvck.

    I definitely want more initiative from the other side in this matter.

    Also, who said it was universal, it is just my completely subjective experience.

    Edit: Also, I wish it was that easy. Especially when I don't seek pure One Night Stands.
    Ok, a little off topic, but.. Eh.. One Night Stands are horrible.. if they didn't come back for at least round two, that means you didn't give it a good go.

    As the saying goes -  it's not about having sex with a million women, it's about finding that one you want to have sex with a million times - Paraphrased from Wilt Chamberlain. 
    A million times? Just her?! Wilt never said that...
    Yah, it was during a late night with Johnny Carson, promoting his book, where he talks about having sex with a million women.

    and he made that remark.. again. paraphrased.
    AlBQuirkyGorwe[Deleted User]
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  • GorweGorwe Member Posts: 1,609
    imagination is greater then reality.
    I will not object to that, but it's best when you have both. When one feeds off another. Like how lingerie and tease are 10000x more sexy to me than pure nudity. ;)
    AlBQuirky
  • KnightFalzKnightFalz Member EpicPosts: 4,583
    Ungood said:
    Have you ever noticed that MMO's try to dance the line of nudity, with very few exceptions, like Conan, and Rust, for example.

    I wonder why that is, that there is sexualization with skimpy outfits and people (mainly females) going off to fight dragons in what amounts to 3 postage stamps and shin guards.

    I mean, it is some nudity rule, like I know in some Asian countries you can show all the "Almost" nudity you want, but anything that shows actual nudity needs to be censored. 

    and also, why aren't guys sexualized as well?

    The sexualization of women in media has been a cultural norm for quite some time, with that of men nowhere near as much. This is just a continuation of that in yet another medium. Basically, it is what it is and has been and will be.

    Sex, in particular the female sex, sells... up to the point where it would diminish overall revenue due to the impairment of sales due to external factors.

    Also, what better for your sexually attractive female character than an alluring wardrobe to barely go along with? Cue cash shop sales. I have far less in the way of outfits for my male characters than my girl for her female ones.
    AlBQuirky
  • KnightFalzKnightFalz Member EpicPosts: 4,583
    Ungood said:
    I think, and this is just me, that if I was planning an MMO, where I could have my big beefy barbarian dwarf wearing a hot pink butt floss thong as they bull rush and jump into the air doing an axe cleave attack on a BAM,  the insecure manbabies that could not handle seeing my hairy ass cheeks flap in the wind as I fought, would not be playing that MMO to start with, and the culture would overall be better.
    I expect if that went on for long the number of people playing that particular MMO would be rather low, so the culture would overall be absent.

    AlBQuirky
  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    Ungood said:
    I think, and this is just me, that if I was planning an MMO, where I could have my big beefy barbarian dwarf wearing a hot pink butt floss thong as they bull rush and jump into the air doing an axe cleave attack on a BAM,  the insecure manbabies that could not handle seeing my hairy ass cheeks flap in the wind as I fought, would not be playing that MMO to start with, and the culture would overall be better.
    I expect if that went on for long the number of people playing that particular MMO would be rather low, so the culture would overall be absent.

    So, what you are saying, is that the problem is insecure fragile male egos that exist among males who MMO's, that could not handle men being sexualied right along with women.

    Seems like a silly reason, IMHO.

    Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.

  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,404
    Oh I thought Magic Mike was a great show. Goes to show that it goes both ways.
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  • AlBQuirkyAlBQuirky Member EpicPosts: 7,432
    Ungood said:
    Ungood said:
    I think, and this is just me, that if I was planning an MMO, where I could have my big beefy barbarian dwarf wearing a hot pink butt floss thong as they bull rush and jump into the air doing an axe cleave attack on a BAM,  the insecure manbabies that could not handle seeing my hairy ass cheeks flap in the wind as I fought, would not be playing that MMO to start with, and the culture would overall be better.
    I expect if that went on for long the number of people playing that particular MMO would be rather low, so the culture would overall be absent.

    So, what you are saying, is that the problem is insecure fragile male egos that exist among males who MMO's, that could not handle men being sexualied right along with women.

    Seems like a silly reason, IMHO.

    So... A man who does not "enjoy" seeing a naked male body is "fragile" in your eyes?

    - Al

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  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    AlBQuirky said:
    Ungood said:
    Ungood said:
    I think, and this is just me, that if I was planning an MMO, where I could have my big beefy barbarian dwarf wearing a hot pink butt floss thong as they bull rush and jump into the air doing an axe cleave attack on a BAM,  the insecure manbabies that could not handle seeing my hairy ass cheeks flap in the wind as I fought, would not be playing that MMO to start with, and the culture would overall be better.
    I expect if that went on for long the number of people playing that particular MMO would be rather low, so the culture would overall be absent.

    So, what you are saying, is that the problem is insecure fragile male egos that exist among males who MMO's, that could not handle men being sexualied right along with women.

    Seems like a silly reason, IMHO.

    So... A man who does not "enjoy" seeing a naked male body is "fragile" in your eyes?
    Any man that embraces the objectification/sexualization of a female, and not equally so a male.. Yes.. they have a very frail ego.. like Thin untempered glass that shatters at the tiniest little poke.
    AlBQuirky
    Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.

  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    and you know, I totally get it if some of you all disagree, but as I see it, if the Armor exposes the buttcheeks on the female character, it should also expose the buttcheeks on the male character.

    I am not against sexualization, or against complete modesty, I just think it ought to be fair.

    If the armor is going to be high fantasy sexualization, let's go down that road for both men and women.

    If the armor is going to look realistic like it will actually protect you, let's go down that road for both men and women.

    I don't think that is an unreasonable stance.
    GorweAlBQuirky
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  • GorweGorwe Member Posts: 1,609
    So, is Miss Universe an example of sexualization or of celebration of beauty?
    UngoodAlBQuirky
  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    edited November 2020
    Gorwe said:
    So, is Miss Universe an example of sexualization or of celebration of beauty?
    Great example of a form of equality.

    You Have Miss Universe & Mr Universe.

    Now, I am sure many of you know of the Mr Universe, with famous winners like Arnold Schwarzenegger (Conan) and Lou Ferrigno (The Hulk).

    Arguably, if someone would feel that women lined up in bikinis being judged by their physical attributes is acceptable, why should they have an issue with a man wearing speedos and having the same done to them.

    And for many, seeing men compete for who has the most beefcake, is a thing, and a very popular thing at that.

    As how many of you even know of any Miss Universe winners? Which kind of makes a point that competitions that objectify men are widely accepted and embraced.

    Now, along that vein of beefcake, you also have Miss and Mr Olympia, as well as competitions like Miss & Mr Fitness 

    So.. we put a bunch of big beefy dudes on a stage wearing a speedo and told them flex for all they were worth.... Sexualization or celebration of the body?

    Enjoy the Show


    AlBQuirkyGorwe
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,938
    Gorwe said:
    So, is Miss Universe an example of sexualization or of celebration of beauty?
    Celebration of beauty.

    As long as people treat the contestants well, don't take their humanity for granted, and the contestants genuinely love doing it, I think it's fine.

    We are visual and sexual beings (more or less and one's mileage may vary but in general that's what we are) and I see no reason to demonize that fact just because some people feel very uncomfortable with it existing.

    Now, if those involved were treated as less than human, not given their rights and were not a willing participant then that's a problem.
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,938
    Ungood said:
    AlBQuirky said:
    Ungood said:
    Ungood said:
    I think, and this is just me, that if I was planning an MMO, where I could have my big beefy barbarian dwarf wearing a hot pink butt floss thong as they bull rush and jump into the air doing an axe cleave attack on a BAM,  the insecure manbabies that could not handle seeing my hairy ass cheeks flap in the wind as I fought, would not be playing that MMO to start with, and the culture would overall be better.
    I expect if that went on for long the number of people playing that particular MMO would be rather low, so the culture would overall be absent.

    So, what you are saying, is that the problem is insecure fragile male egos that exist among males who MMO's, that could not handle men being sexualied right along with women.

    Seems like a silly reason, IMHO.

    So... A man who does not "enjoy" seeing a naked male body is "fragile" in your eyes?
    Any man that embraces the objectification/sexualization of a female, and not equally so a male.. Yes.. they have a very frail ego.. like Thin untempered glass that shatters at the tiniest little poke.
    You both are talking about two different things.
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  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    Sovrath said:
    Ungood said:
    AlBQuirky said:
    Ungood said:
    Ungood said:
    I think, and this is just me, that if I was planning an MMO, where I could have my big beefy barbarian dwarf wearing a hot pink butt floss thong as they bull rush and jump into the air doing an axe cleave attack on a BAM,  the insecure manbabies that could not handle seeing my hairy ass cheeks flap in the wind as I fought, would not be playing that MMO to start with, and the culture would overall be better.
    I expect if that went on for long the number of people playing that particular MMO would be rather low, so the culture would overall be absent.

    So, what you are saying, is that the problem is insecure fragile male egos that exist among males who MMO's, that could not handle men being sexualied right along with women.

    Seems like a silly reason, IMHO.

    So... A man who does not "enjoy" seeing a naked male body is "fragile" in your eyes?
    Any man that embraces the objectification/sexualization of a female, and not equally so a male.. Yes.. they have a very frail ego.. like Thin untempered glass that shatters at the tiniest little poke.
    You both are talking about two different things.
    That is because they were trying to twist my words.. and I don't play that game.
    AlBQuirkyalkarionlog
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  • TwistedSister77TwistedSister77 Member EpicPosts: 1,144
    edited November 2020
    My guild leader wants me dressed up as Mr. Man Slave... best game?

    (King gerbils are a bonus)
    AlBQuirky
  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    My guild leader wants me dressed up as Mr. Man Slave... best game?

    (King gerbils are a bonus)
    currently ?

    second life
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