1: The spawn of a world boss (and loot) can be contentious enough with a boss just dropping a few pieces of gear; however, if the gear is potentially worth $500 then it is really going to get nasty. Raid Leader: Thanks noob, you just cost me rent money.
2: Do you want to take your sword of Uberness ($80.00) out into the wilds and risk losing it?
3: Do you want to play in a game where a person's power is determined by what he spent in the cash shop? I don't want to play Master Card vs. Visa.
4: If an account can be worth $50,000.00 how does this impact the hacking attempts on the game's account base?
No problem other than what greed introduces.
1. Speed run rage quits? lol
2. In a full loot game maybe not unless you can craft 10 more no problem.
3. BoP and BoE that's a game design thing
4. Your mmorpg account will be much more secure than today. Someone could get your Awesome mmo password, but still wouldn't be able to log in. They certainly wont be able to sell your stuff.
Would you rather play poker with a few friends over pennies, potato chips, and bottle caps or play poker at the casino with $10.00 buy-ins, cameras, and people trying to make rent?
Nothing wrong with preferring one over the other; however, totally different vibe in each.
Friends $100 buy in $1 and $2 blinds winner takes all, good times, great memories.
Casino if money is the goal. 10 stranger who know nothing about me and a bigger potential pot.
I like your first scenario. Pretty good analogy. The second is a bit of a reach
There is nothing far out/futuristic or mysterious about any of this, no magic.
The real magic is how banks continue to get people to deposit liquidity, give them no protion of the fees generated and go as far to charge the person who provided liquidity a fee! lol That's a thread for another forum though.
inb4 - all of this recieves no comment and next posters says NFTs are gambling
Banks provide a real service. You can put your money in the bank, and then you can take it out whenever and wherever you need it, whether in the form of ATMs or debit cards or whatever. That happens without having to carry it around with you at all times, so it avoids the chance of being robbed and losing all your money. That's what they get paid for.
You think so bud? I pull mine out when ever I want. I have dedit cards where I get 2-4% cash back. I can get a 3% apr loan anytime of day, any day of the week instantly. I can pay that loan back whenever I want, how ever I want. On top of that I get paid intrest on my deposit.
Things have changed man.
Cash back is a great business model. Pay an inflated price or inflated interest in order to delude oneself into thinking they're making easy money on things they would have bought anyways.
There are all kinds of ways to be swindled. Some legal, some not so much.
I get 2%-4% cash back on everything I buy... Tooth paste, car, food, electric bill.
Any and everything. Inflations a bitch. I planned for this.
edit - You can do the same.
1. Set up a coinbase account. 2. Order a free debit card. 3. Once you get your card transfer some USD or even the Looney. 4. Wahla! You can now earn 4% cash back on everything you buy.
Give it a shot.
Oh your USD is FDIC insured up to 250k. Try it it will take 10 minutes to set up.
You're welcome.
All I'm saying is if your getting 4% back, you paid 4% too much in the first place. Truth is, your paying a lot more than 4% too much.
For what? As in life right now? Everything is too high? I'm not sure I undersatnd. I pay nothing for that account.
All these bonuses, all this bling, it's not free and we all pay for it. It's probably costing you an extra 10-15% to get 4% cash back in ways that are not readily transparent for you.
I tried to explain in another thread how a single lousy little 1 minute a day radio ad on a single radio station for a single product costs basically 35% of my whole company's profit.
Everything comes out of our collective pockets.
Your're kidding right? Coinbase secretly raising the cost of my cable?
When you see something in the store that you know cost 25cents to mfg and it’s retailing for $6 you might understand.
I hope your not paying 29% interest on your 4% cash back.
edit:
We should start a business together.
I borrow money at 2 1/4% We spend it and get 4% cash back.
There is nothing far out/futuristic or mysterious about any of this, no magic.
The real magic is how banks continue to get people to deposit liquidity, give them no protion of the fees generated and go as far to charge the person who provided liquidity a fee! lol That's a thread for another forum though.
inb4 - all of this recieves no comment and next posters says NFTs are gambling
Banks provide a real service. You can put your money in the bank, and then you can take it out whenever and wherever you need it, whether in the form of ATMs or debit cards or whatever. That happens without having to carry it around with you at all times, so it avoids the chance of being robbed and losing all your money. That's what they get paid for.
You think so bud? I pull mine out when ever I want. I have dedit cards where I get 2-4% cash back. I can get a 3% apr loan anytime of day, any day of the week instantly. I can pay that loan back whenever I want, how ever I want. On top of that I get paid intrest on my deposit.
Things have changed man.
Cash back is a great business model. Pay an inflated price or inflated interest in order to delude oneself into thinking they're making easy money on things they would have bought anyways.
There are all kinds of ways to be swindled. Some legal, some not so much.
I get 2%-4% cash back on everything I buy... Tooth paste, car, food, electric bill.
Any and everything. Inflations a bitch. I planned for this.
edit - You can do the same.
1. Set up a coinbase account. 2. Order a free debit card. 3. Once you get your card transfer some USD or even the Looney. 4. Wahla! You can now earn 4% cash back on everything you buy.
Give it a shot.
Oh your USD is FDIC insured up to 250k. Try it it will take 10 minutes to set up.
You're welcome.
All I'm saying is if your getting 4% back, you paid 4% too much in the first place. Truth is, your paying a lot more than 4% too much.
For what? As in life right now? Everything is too high? I'm not sure I undersatnd. I pay nothing for that account.
All these bonuses, all this bling, it's not free and we all pay for it. It's probably costing you an extra 10-15% to get 4% cash back in ways that are not readily transparent for you.
I tried to explain in another thread how a single lousy little 1 minute a day radio ad on a single radio station for a single product costs basically 35% of my whole company's profit.
Everything comes out of our collective pockets.
Your're kidding right? Coinbase secretly raising the cost of my cable?
When you see something in the store that you know cost 25cents to mfg and it’s retailing for $6 you might understand.
I hope your not paying 29% interest on your 4% cash back.
There is nothing far out/futuristic or mysterious about any of this, no magic.
The real magic is how banks continue to get people to deposit liquidity, give them no protion of the fees generated and go as far to charge the person who provided liquidity a fee! lol That's a thread for another forum though.
inb4 - all of this recieves no comment and next posters says NFTs are gambling
Banks provide a real service. You can put your money in the bank, and then you can take it out whenever and wherever you need it, whether in the form of ATMs or debit cards or whatever. That happens without having to carry it around with you at all times, so it avoids the chance of being robbed and losing all your money. That's what they get paid for.
You think so bud? I pull mine out when ever I want. I have dedit cards where I get 2-4% cash back. I can get a 3% apr loan anytime of day, any day of the week instantly. I can pay that loan back whenever I want, how ever I want. On top of that I get paid intrest on my deposit.
Things have changed man.
Cash back is a great business model. Pay an inflated price or inflated interest in order to delude oneself into thinking they're making easy money on things they would have bought anyways.
There are all kinds of ways to be swindled. Some legal, some not so much.
I get 2%-4% cash back on everything I buy... Tooth paste, car, food, electric bill.
Any and everything. Inflations a bitch. I planned for this.
edit - You can do the same.
1. Set up a coinbase account. 2. Order a free debit card. 3. Once you get your card transfer some USD or even the Looney. 4. Wahla! You can now earn 4% cash back on everything you buy.
Give it a shot.
Oh your USD is FDIC insured up to 250k. Try it it will take 10 minutes to set up.
You're welcome.
All I'm saying is if your getting 4% back, you paid 4% too much in the first place. Truth is, your paying a lot more than 4% too much.
For what? As in life right now? Everything is too high? I'm not sure I undersatnd. I pay nothing for that account.
All these bonuses, all this bling, it's not free and we all pay for it. It's probably costing you an extra 10-15% to get 4% cash back in ways that are not readily transparent for you.
I tried to explain in another thread how a single lousy little 1 minute a day radio ad on a single radio station for a single product costs basically 35% of my whole company's profit.
Everything comes out of our collective pockets.
Your're kidding right? Coinbase secretly raising the cost of my cable?
When you see something in the store that you know cost 25cents to mfg and it’s retailing for $6 you might understand.
I hope your not paying 29% interest on your 4% cash back.
Inflation is a bitch. Wait till next year.
If your worried about inflation you ain’t seen nothing yet. I’m a bellwether industry, I’m seeing now what your going to pay in the stores in 2023
If you worried about inflation, just borrow money. You can borrow it for next to nothing unless your dumb or your credit sucks.
4% cash back and all the rest of it are all gimmicks to make more money. Where do you think the more money comes from?
There is nothing far out/futuristic or mysterious about any of this, no magic.
The real magic is how banks continue to get people to deposit liquidity, give them no protion of the fees generated and go as far to charge the person who provided liquidity a fee! lol That's a thread for another forum though.
inb4 - all of this recieves no comment and next posters says NFTs are gambling
Banks provide a real service. You can put your money in the bank, and then you can take it out whenever and wherever you need it, whether in the form of ATMs or debit cards or whatever. That happens without having to carry it around with you at all times, so it avoids the chance of being robbed and losing all your money. That's what they get paid for.
You think so bud? I pull mine out when ever I want. I have dedit cards where I get 2-4% cash back. I can get a 3% apr loan anytime of day, any day of the week instantly. I can pay that loan back whenever I want, how ever I want. On top of that I get paid intrest on my deposit.
Things have changed man.
Cash back is a great business model. Pay an inflated price or inflated interest in order to delude oneself into thinking they're making easy money on things they would have bought anyways.
There are all kinds of ways to be swindled. Some legal, some not so much.
I get 2%-4% cash back on everything I buy... Tooth paste, car, food, electric bill.
Any and everything. Inflations a bitch. I planned for this.
edit - You can do the same.
1. Set up a coinbase account. 2. Order a free debit card. 3. Once you get your card transfer some USD or even the Looney. 4. Wahla! You can now earn 4% cash back on everything you buy.
Give it a shot.
Oh your USD is FDIC insured up to 250k. Try it it will take 10 minutes to set up.
You're welcome.
And where exactly does the money for that 4% cash back come from?
If it's so easy to get 4% cash back on everything, then why do you only get 2% cash back on some things?
4% cash back and all the rest of it are all gimmicks to make more money. Where do you think the more money comes from?
I think in those cases (store card) they're just refunding the credit card fee that would be charged by a non-store card.
The sad thing with credit card fees is people who pay with cash are paying those fees since there is no longer a difference between what is charged for an item whether paying by cash or card.
The people who pay with a card and get a % back are actually paying what used to be the cash rate.
Credit card fees are 2.25% for me. Debit is 12 cents per transaction last I checked which admittedly was quite a few years ago
edit: this is what my business is charged when customers use these services.
4% cash back and all the rest of it are all gimmicks to make more money. Where do you think the more money comes from?
I think in those cases (store card) they're just refunding the credit card fee that would be charged by a non-store card.
The sad thing with credit card fees is people who pay with cash are paying those fees since there is no longer a difference between what is charged for an item whether paying by cash or card.
The people who pay with a card and get a % back are actually paying what used to be the cash rate.
Credit card fees are 2.25% for me. Debit is 12 cents per transaction last I checked which admittedly was quite a few years ago
edit: this is what my business is charged when customers use these services.
I've not seen 4% back across the board. All I've seen is that happening if you use a store card.
Most of the time it is 1-2% back, I think, but since you run a business, you'd likely know more than I would know.
I’m not a retailer. Giving up that 2.25% for somebody using a credit card is hard and I have to raise prices to accommodate for it.
Cash Back is the same thing and then we have to think that cash back is only one single gimmick and that we have to add up all the gimmicks cost me together and then I might use a word I see sometimes but don’t use much.
1: The spawn of a world boss (and loot) can be contentious enough with a boss just dropping a few pieces of gear; however, if the gear is potentially worth $500 then it is really going to get nasty. Raid Leader: Thanks noob, you just cost me rent money.
2: Do you want to take your sword of Uberness ($80.00) out into the wilds and risk losing it?
3: Do you want to play in a game where a person's power is determined by what he spent in the cash shop? I don't want to play Master Card vs. Visa.
4: If an account can be worth $50,000.00 how does this impact the hacking attempts on the game's account base?
No problem other than what greed introduces.
That's just scratching the surface.
Imagine the devs selling land and all that crap could just as easily manipulate drop rates, spawn rates, GMs that spawn in the sword of uberness to pay rent. Heaven forbid any contested world boss spawns. Guilds would be fighting over money and hackers/cheaters would do anything.
Are you going to trust any guild leader to manage a guild bank worth thousands of dollars and not just walk off?
Everyone will roll need on everything.
Just imagine every horrible practice that has ever happened in a MMO and ramp it up to 1000 because now there is money involved.
Botting, perma camping, multiple accounts, every resource node camped, scamming to all new highs. I can't even imagine the auction house manipulation that would take place.
What happens if an item is too powerful and they need to nerf it? Will people demand refunds? What happens if they need to do a rollback? Server crashes before loot is distributed? What about when a new expansion gets released and greens are more powerful than epics?
It's a disaster waiting to happen on so many levels.
"You CAN'T buy ships for RL money." - MaxBacon
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
There is nothing far out/futuristic or mysterious about any of this, no magic.
The real magic is how banks continue to get people to deposit liquidity, give them no protion of the fees generated and go as far to charge the person who provided liquidity a fee! lol That's a thread for another forum though.
inb4 - all of this recieves no comment and next posters says NFTs are gambling
Banks provide a real service. You can put your money in the bank, and then you can take it out whenever and wherever you need it, whether in the form of ATMs or debit cards or whatever. That happens without having to carry it around with you at all times, so it avoids the chance of being robbed and losing all your money. That's what they get paid for.
You think so bud? I pull mine out when ever I want. I have dedit cards where I get 2-4% cash back. I can get a 3% apr loan anytime of day, any day of the week instantly. I can pay that loan back whenever I want, how ever I want. On top of that I get paid intrest on my deposit.
Things have changed man.
Cash back is a great business model. Pay an inflated price or inflated interest in order to delude oneself into thinking they're making easy money on things they would have bought anyways.
There are all kinds of ways to be swindled. Some legal, some not so much.
I get 2%-4% cash back on everything I buy... Tooth paste, car, food, electric bill.
Any and everything. Inflations a bitch. I planned for this.
edit - You can do the same.
1. Set up a coinbase account. 2. Order a free debit card. 3. Once you get your card transfer some USD or even the Looney. 4. Wahla! You can now earn 4% cash back on everything you buy.
Give it a shot.
Oh your USD is FDIC insured up to 250k. Try it it will take 10 minutes to set up.
You're welcome.
All I'm saying is if your getting 4% back, you paid 4% too much in the first place. Truth is, your paying a lot more than 4% too much.
For what? As in life right now? Everything is too high? I'm not sure I undersatnd. I pay nothing for that account.
All these bonuses, all this bling, it's not free and we all pay for it. It's probably costing you an extra 10-15% to get 4% cash back in ways that are not readily transparent for you.
I tried to explain in another thread how a single lousy little 1 minute a day radio ad on a single radio station for a single product costs basically 35% of my whole company's profit.
Everything comes out of our collective pockets.
Your're kidding right? Coinbase secretly raising the cost of my cable?
When you see something in the store that you know cost 25cents to mfg and it’s retailing for $6 you might understand.
I hope your not paying 29% interest on your 4% cash back.
Inflation is a bitch. Wait till next year.
If your worried about inflation you ain’t seen nothing yet. I’m a bellwether industry, I’m seeing now what your going to pay in the stores in 2023
If you worried about inflation, just borrow money. You can borrow it for next to nothing unless your dumb or your credit sucks.
4% cash back and all the rest of it are all gimmicks to make more money. Where do you think the more money comes from?
The money comes from all the fees on the platform. Trading fees, spreads, transaction fees. Much better ways for me to conduct my business.
I dont use the platform for anything but 4% cash back. No gimick there bud. I pay a bill and 4% of that bill is returned to me. I buy gas, cat food, christmas trees all 4% back.
There is nothing far out/futuristic or mysterious about any of this, no magic.
The real magic is how banks continue to get people to deposit liquidity, give them no protion of the fees generated and go as far to charge the person who provided liquidity a fee! lol That's a thread for another forum though.
inb4 - all of this recieves no comment and next posters says NFTs are gambling
Banks provide a real service. You can put your money in the bank, and then you can take it out whenever and wherever you need it, whether in the form of ATMs or debit cards or whatever. That happens without having to carry it around with you at all times, so it avoids the chance of being robbed and losing all your money. That's what they get paid for.
You think so bud? I pull mine out when ever I want. I have dedit cards where I get 2-4% cash back. I can get a 3% apr loan anytime of day, any day of the week instantly. I can pay that loan back whenever I want, how ever I want. On top of that I get paid intrest on my deposit.
Things have changed man.
Cash back is a great business model. Pay an inflated price or inflated interest in order to delude oneself into thinking they're making easy money on things they would have bought anyways.
There are all kinds of ways to be swindled. Some legal, some not so much.
I get 2%-4% cash back on everything I buy... Tooth paste, car, food, electric bill.
Any and everything. Inflations a bitch. I planned for this.
edit - You can do the same.
1. Set up a coinbase account. 2. Order a free debit card. 3. Once you get your card transfer some USD or even the Looney. 4. Wahla! You can now earn 4% cash back on everything you buy.
Give it a shot.
Oh your USD is FDIC insured up to 250k. Try it it will take 10 minutes to set up.
You're welcome.
All I'm saying is if your getting 4% back, you paid 4% too much in the first place. Truth is, your paying a lot more than 4% too much.
For what? As in life right now? Everything is too high? I'm not sure I undersatnd. I pay nothing for that account.
All these bonuses, all this bling, it's not free and we all pay for it. It's probably costing you an extra 10-15% to get 4% cash back in ways that are not readily transparent for you.
I tried to explain in another thread how a single lousy little 1 minute a day radio ad on a single radio station for a single product costs basically 35% of my whole company's profit.
Everything comes out of our collective pockets.
Your're kidding right? Coinbase secretly raising the cost of my cable?
When you see something in the store that you know cost 25cents to mfg and it’s retailing for $6 you might understand.
I hope your not paying 29% interest on your 4% cash back.
Inflation is a bitch. Wait till next year.
If your worried about inflation you ain’t seen nothing yet. I’m a bellwether industry, I’m seeing now what your going to pay in the stores in 2023
If you worried about inflation, just borrow money. You can borrow it for next to nothing unless your dumb or your credit sucks.
4% cash back and all the rest of it are all gimmicks to make more money. Where do you think the more money comes from?
The money comes from all the fees on the platform. Trading fees, spreads, transaction fees. Much better ways for me to conduct my business.
I dont use the platform for anything but 4% cash back. No gimick there bud. I pay a bill and 4% of that bill is returned to me. I buy gas, cat food, christmas trees all 4% back.
There is nothing far out/futuristic or mysterious about any of this, no magic.
The real magic is how banks continue to get people to deposit liquidity, give them no protion of the fees generated and go as far to charge the person who provided liquidity a fee! lol That's a thread for another forum though.
inb4 - all of this recieves no comment and next posters says NFTs are gambling
Banks provide a real service. You can put your money in the bank, and then you can take it out whenever and wherever you need it, whether in the form of ATMs or debit cards or whatever. That happens without having to carry it around with you at all times, so it avoids the chance of being robbed and losing all your money. That's what they get paid for.
You think so bud? I pull mine out when ever I want. I have dedit cards where I get 2-4% cash back. I can get a 3% apr loan anytime of day, any day of the week instantly. I can pay that loan back whenever I want, how ever I want. On top of that I get paid intrest on my deposit.
Things have changed man.
Cash back is a great business model. Pay an inflated price or inflated interest in order to delude oneself into thinking they're making easy money on things they would have bought anyways.
There are all kinds of ways to be swindled. Some legal, some not so much.
I get 2%-4% cash back on everything I buy... Tooth paste, car, food, electric bill.
Any and everything. Inflations a bitch. I planned for this.
edit - You can do the same.
1. Set up a coinbase account. 2. Order a free debit card. 3. Once you get your card transfer some USD or even the Looney. 4. Wahla! You can now earn 4% cash back on everything you buy.
Give it a shot.
Oh your USD is FDIC insured up to 250k. Try it it will take 10 minutes to set up.
You're welcome.
And where exactly does the money for that 4% cash back come from?
If it's so easy to get 4% cash back on everything, then why do you only get 2% cash back on some things?
I get 2% back on my other card. 4% on the coinbase one. 2% on everything for one, 4% for everything on the other.
Even mentioning BoE and BoP both make zero sense in a blockchain game because they would prevent the resale and any real ownership of the items. Pretty much pointing to the fact that these games would all be designed in the same way to fall in line with how blockchain works.
Imagine a full loot FFA PVP blockchain game.... yeah...
"You CAN'T buy ships for RL money." - MaxBacon
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
1: The spawn of a world boss (and loot) can be contentious enough with a boss just dropping a few pieces of gear; however, if the gear is potentially worth $500 then it is really going to get nasty. Raid Leader: Thanks noob, you just cost me rent money.
2: Do you want to take your sword of Uberness ($80.00) out into the wilds and risk losing it?
3: Do you want to play in a game where a person's power is determined by what he spent in the cash shop? I don't want to play Master Card vs. Visa.
4: If an account can be worth $50,000.00 how does this impact the hacking attempts on the game's account base?
No problem other than what greed introduces.
That's just scratching the surface.
Imagine the devs selling land and all that crap could just as easily manipulate drop rates, spawn rates, GMs that spawn in the sword of uberness to pay rent. Heaven forbid any contested world boss spawns. Guilds would be fighting over money and hackers/cheaters would do anything.
Are you going to trust any guild leader to manage a guild bank worth thousands of dollars and not just walk off?
Everyone will roll need on everything.
Just imagine every horrible practice that has ever happened in a MMO and ramp it up to 1000 because now there is money involved.
Botting, perma camping, multiple accounts, every resource node camped, scamming to all new highs. I can't even imagine the auction house manipulation that would take place.
What happens if an item is too powerful and they need to nerf it? Will people demand refunds? What happens if they need to do a rollback? Server crashes before loot is distributed? What about when a new expansion gets released and greens are more powerful than epics?
It's a disaster waiting to happen on so many levels.
If drop rated can be tampered with. It's a bad game and potentially a scam. A good question to ask is "Are drops varifiably random" Meaning are they done by an oracle such as chainlink. Once you get some understand how it works and why it's important you can then ask about when the hash is made type stuff.
There is nothing far out/futuristic or mysterious about any of this, no magic.
The real magic is how banks continue to get people to deposit liquidity, give them no protion of the fees generated and go as far to charge the person who provided liquidity a fee! lol That's a thread for another forum though.
inb4 - all of this recieves no comment and next posters says NFTs are gambling
Banks provide a real service. You can put your money in the bank, and then you can take it out whenever and wherever you need it, whether in the form of ATMs or debit cards or whatever. That happens without having to carry it around with you at all times, so it avoids the chance of being robbed and losing all your money. That's what they get paid for.
You think so bud? I pull mine out when ever I want. I have dedit cards where I get 2-4% cash back. I can get a 3% apr loan anytime of day, any day of the week instantly. I can pay that loan back whenever I want, how ever I want. On top of that I get paid intrest on my deposit.
Things have changed man.
Not exactly "cash" back, yes?
"Your daily coffee and weekly grocery run can now earn you up to 4% back in a crypto reward of your choice when you use Coinbase Card."
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
1: The spawn of a world boss (and loot) can be contentious enough with a boss just dropping a few pieces of gear; however, if the gear is potentially worth $500 then it is really going to get nasty. Raid Leader: Thanks noob, you just cost me rent money.
2: Do you want to take your sword of Uberness ($80.00) out into the wilds and risk losing it?
3: Do you want to play in a game where a person's power is determined by what he spent in the cash shop? I don't want to play Master Card vs. Visa.
4: If an account can be worth $50,000.00 how does this impact the hacking attempts on the game's account base?
No problem other than what greed introduces.
That's just scratching the surface.
Imagine the devs selling land and all that crap could just as easily manipulate drop rates, spawn rates, GMs that spawn in the sword of uberness to pay rent. Heaven forbid any contested world boss spawns. Guilds would be fighting over money and hackers/cheaters would do anything.
Are you going to trust any guild leader to manage a guild bank worth thousands of dollars and not just walk off?
Everyone will roll need on everything.
Just imagine every horrible practice that has ever happened in a MMO and ramp it up to 1000 because now there is money involved.
Botting, perma camping, multiple accounts, every resource node camped, scamming to all new highs. I can't even imagine the auction house manipulation that would take place.
What happens if an item is too powerful and they need to nerf it? Will people demand refunds? What happens if they need to do a rollback? Server crashes before loot is distributed? What about when a new expansion gets released and greens are more powerful than epics?
It's a disaster waiting to happen on so many levels.
If drop rated can be tampered with. It's a bad game and potentially a scam. A good question to ask is "Are drops varifiably random" Meaning are they done by an oracle such as chainlink. Once you get some understand how it works and why it's important you can then ask about when the hash is made type stuff.
Sometimes drop tables need to be adjusted. Just look at New World and the crafting mess. What happens when they fix drops that were broken and devalue something that was never meant to be that valuable/rare in the first place?
Usually this is just a single line in some patch notes but with a blockchain game it's now about monetary loss or gain. All it takes is a decimal point in the wrong spot for something to happen. This happens all the time in MMOs where something is either too rare or too common and gets adjusted.
Of course there is also tampering... and really they might get accused of tampering even if they were just fixing the screwed economy. Again look at New World.
"You CAN'T buy ships for RL money." - MaxBacon
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
There is nothing far out/futuristic or mysterious about any of this, no magic.
The real magic is how banks continue to get people to deposit liquidity, give them no protion of the fees generated and go as far to charge the person who provided liquidity a fee! lol That's a thread for another forum though.
inb4 - all of this recieves no comment and next posters says NFTs are gambling
Banks provide a real service. You can put your money in the bank, and then you can take it out whenever and wherever you need it, whether in the form of ATMs or debit cards or whatever. That happens without having to carry it around with you at all times, so it avoids the chance of being robbed and losing all your money. That's what they get paid for.
You think so bud? I pull mine out when ever I want. I have dedit cards where I get 2-4% cash back. I can get a 3% apr loan anytime of day, any day of the week instantly. I can pay that loan back whenever I want, how ever I want. On top of that I get paid intrest on my deposit.
Things have changed man.
Not exactly "cash" back, yes?
"Your daily coffee and weekly grocery run can now earn you up to 4% back in a crypto reward of your choice when you use Coinbase Card."
It's important to state the whole truth.
Um ser that's cash back. - money in coins or notes, as distinct from checks, money orders, or credit.
I get 4% back in $GRT. A great coin that process and stores data for nealy all blockchains. It's a power house of a token. I'm actuall averaging about 6%. Actually it's probably much higher than that $GRT has been performing really well.
Hell the 4% cash back I recieved today is up 12% lol. I just checked.
Regardless you get the equivalent USD 4% value back in cash. When I'm ready to spend it I just swap it to USDC. Spend it and get 4% back on that usdc!
It's really nice.
edit- it's on 4% cash back on anything paid for. Anywhere that accepts VISA.
Oh and just in case you're wondering If you want you can get 1% back in DAI a 1-1 USD tethered stable coin. Idk why you would want that, but you could though.
1: The spawn of a world boss (and loot) can be contentious enough with a boss just dropping a few pieces of gear; however, if the gear is potentially worth $500 then it is really going to get nasty. Raid Leader: Thanks noob, you just cost me rent money.
2: Do you want to take your sword of Uberness ($80.00) out into the wilds and risk losing it?
3: Do you want to play in a game where a person's power is determined by what he spent in the cash shop? I don't want to play Master Card vs. Visa.
4: If an account can be worth $50,000.00 how does this impact the hacking attempts on the game's account base?
No problem other than what greed introduces.
That's just scratching the surface.
Imagine the devs selling land and all that crap could just as easily manipulate drop rates, spawn rates, GMs that spawn in the sword of uberness to pay rent. Heaven forbid any contested world boss spawns. Guilds would be fighting over money and hackers/cheaters would do anything.
Are you going to trust any guild leader to manage a guild bank worth thousands of dollars and not just walk off?
Everyone will roll need on everything.
Just imagine every horrible practice that has ever happened in a MMO and ramp it up to 1000 because now there is money involved.
Botting, perma camping, multiple accounts, every resource node camped, scamming to all new highs. I can't even imagine the auction house manipulation that would take place.
What happens if an item is too powerful and they need to nerf it? Will people demand refunds? What happens if they need to do a rollback? Server crashes before loot is distributed? What about when a new expansion gets released and greens are more powerful than epics?
It's a disaster waiting to happen on so many levels.
There is nothing far out/futuristic or mysterious about any of this, no magic.
The real magic is how banks continue to get people to deposit liquidity, give them no protion of the fees generated and go as far to charge the person who provided liquidity a fee! lol That's a thread for another forum though.
inb4 - all of this recieves no comment and next posters says NFTs are gambling
Banks provide a real service. You can put your money in the bank, and then you can take it out whenever and wherever you need it, whether in the form of ATMs or debit cards or whatever. That happens without having to carry it around with you at all times, so it avoids the chance of being robbed and losing all your money. That's what they get paid for.
You think so bud? I pull mine out when ever I want. I have dedit cards where I get 2-4% cash back. I can get a 3% apr loan anytime of day, any day of the week instantly. I can pay that loan back whenever I want, how ever I want. On top of that I get paid intrest on my deposit.
Things have changed man.
Not exactly "cash" back, yes?
"Your daily coffee and weekly grocery run can now earn you up to 4% back in a crypto reward of your choice when you use Coinbase Card."
There is nothing far out/futuristic or mysterious about any of this, no magic.
The real magic is how banks continue to get people to deposit liquidity, give them no protion of the fees generated and go as far to charge the person who provided liquidity a fee! lol That's a thread for another forum though.
inb4 - all of this recieves no comment and next posters says NFTs are gambling
Banks provide a real service. You can put your money in the bank, and then you can take it out whenever and wherever you need it, whether in the form of ATMs or debit cards or whatever. That happens without having to carry it around with you at all times, so it avoids the chance of being robbed and losing all your money. That's what they get paid for.
You think so bud? I pull mine out when ever I want. I have dedit cards where I get 2-4% cash back. I can get a 3% apr loan anytime of day, any day of the week instantly. I can pay that loan back whenever I want, how ever I want. On top of that I get paid intrest on my deposit.
Things have changed man.
Not exactly "cash" back, yes?
"Your daily coffee and weekly grocery run can now earn you up to 4% back in a crypto reward of your choice when you use Coinbase Card."
It's important to state the whole truth.
Oh…
Another points card.
ngmi
Right now at this moment. If you transfered 1 million to your coinbase account for free. Used your coinbase card to buy that 1 million dollar piece of equipment you talk about. You would instantly get 40k back in cash. Full stop. You can then spend that cash anywhere in the world that accepts VISA and get 4% cash back on that!
One card we do enjoy is my wife's Marriot rewards. We travel quite a bit to visit the kids and that card has saved us thousands.
She's able to get points off business travel.
I have a genuine cash back card. I believe it's in the neighborhood of 1.5% I get a big $120 a month Cash Back credited to my CC account.
If we do the math, boy am I sure glad I pay my bill every month and don't pay that 29.9% interest because that is the usual rate for a genuine cash back card.
If you don't borrow the money, the rate doesn't matter.
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2. In a full loot game maybe not unless you can craft 10 more no problem.
3. BoP and BoE that's a game design thing
4. Your mmorpg account will be much more secure than today. Someone could get your Awesome mmo password, but still wouldn't be able to log in. They certainly wont be able to sell your stuff.
5. Greed, no doubt. it knows no bounds.
Casino if money is the goal. 10 stranger who know nothing about me and a bigger potential pot.
I like your first scenario. Pretty good analogy. The second is a bit of a reach
I hope your not paying 29% interest on your 4% cash back.
edit:
We should start a business together.
I borrow money at 2 1/4% We spend it and get 4% cash back.
We’ll be rich
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
If you worried about inflation, just borrow money. You can borrow it for next to nothing unless your dumb or your credit sucks.
4% cash back and all the rest of it are all gimmicks to make more money. Where do you think the more money comes from?
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
If it's so easy to get 4% cash back on everything, then why do you only get 2% cash back on some things?
edit: this is what my business is charged when customers use these services.
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
Cash Back is the same thing and then we have to think that cash back is only one single gimmick and that we have to add up all the gimmicks cost me together and then I might use a word I see sometimes but don’t use much.
Flabbergasted
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
Imagine the devs selling land and all that crap could just as easily manipulate drop rates, spawn rates, GMs that spawn in the sword of uberness to pay rent. Heaven forbid any contested world boss spawns. Guilds would be fighting over money and hackers/cheaters would do anything.
Are you going to trust any guild leader to manage a guild bank worth thousands of dollars and not just walk off?
Everyone will roll need on everything.
Just imagine every horrible practice that has ever happened in a MMO and ramp it up to 1000 because now there is money involved.
Botting, perma camping, multiple accounts, every resource node camped, scamming to all new highs. I can't even imagine the auction house manipulation that would take place.
What happens if an item is too powerful and they need to nerf it? Will people demand refunds? What happens if they need to do a rollback? Server crashes before loot is distributed? What about when a new expansion gets released and greens are more powerful than epics?
It's a disaster waiting to happen on so many levels.
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
Love Minecraft. And check out my Youtube channel OhCanadaGamer
Try a MUD today at http://www.mudconnect.com/I dont use the platform for anything but 4% cash back. No gimick there bud. I pay a bill and 4% of that bill is returned to me. I buy gas, cat food, christmas trees all 4% back.
Got it.
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
Imagine a full loot FFA PVP blockchain game.... yeah...
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
Love Minecraft. And check out my Youtube channel OhCanadaGamer
Try a MUD today at http://www.mudconnect.com/"Your daily coffee and weekly grocery run can now earn you up to 4% back in a crypto reward of your choice when you use Coinbase Card."
It's important to state the whole truth.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Usually this is just a single line in some patch notes but with a blockchain game it's now about monetary loss or gain. All it takes is a decimal point in the wrong spot for something to happen. This happens all the time in MMOs where something is either too rare or too common and gets adjusted.
Of course there is also tampering... and really they might get accused of tampering even if they were just fixing the screwed economy. Again look at New World.
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
Love Minecraft. And check out my Youtube channel OhCanadaGamer
Try a MUD today at http://www.mudconnect.com/I get 4% back in $GRT. A great coin that process and stores data for nealy all blockchains. It's a power house of a token. I'm actuall averaging about 6%. Actually it's probably much higher than that $GRT has been performing really well.
Hell the 4% cash back I recieved today is up 12% lol. I just checked.
Regardless you get the equivalent USD 4% value back in cash. When I'm ready to spend it I just swap it to USDC. Spend it and get 4% back on that usdc!
It's really nice.
edit- it's on 4% cash back on anything paid for. Anywhere that accepts VISA.
Oh and just in case you're wondering If you want you can get 1% back in DAI a 1-1 USD tethered stable coin. Idk why you would want that, but you could though.
Another points card.
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
Right now at this moment. If you transfered 1 million to your coinbase account for free. Used your coinbase card to buy that 1 million dollar piece of equipment you talk about. You would instantly get 40k back in cash. Full stop. You can then spend that cash anywhere in the world that accepts VISA and get 4% cash back on that!
Hello? Anyone home?
If we do the math, boy am I sure glad I pay my bill every month and don't pay that 29.9% interest because that is the usual rate for a genuine cash back card.
If you don't borrow the money, the rate doesn't matter.
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee