Wow too many fanboi's trolling this thread... Im happy someone has gained some level of enjoyment from EQ2 but do we really need your boring drivel every other post?
It's an intellectual forum and everyone has every right to respond to claims made in this and any other thread and to point out how games may have and have not changed. As long as it isn't mean I don't think you should complain. It IS in the EQ2 section after all.
Anyway to the topic "Why did you leave EQ2"? I baught the game at release and really enjoyed the first few lvls 1-7. Man was I fooled..by 20 I could barely stomach even loging in, it seemed like I was at a rl job pfffft
Same exact experience here. Game sucked at release.
Aside from the game simply not being fun the combat wheel and group shared debt irritated me beyond words. Anyway around this time WoW came out...I quickly ebayed my newly made 20 (top3 on server at the time) and made a quick 100$ hehehehehe. I guess i got the last laugh on SOE this time muhahahah. Thank god for blizzard, a.net and HL2 otherwise we all would be stuck playing craptastic mmorph's like EQ2/ffx.
Game has improved by leaps and bounds since you played it, it truly isn't the same game we experienced back then. With your attitude you will never know that. Funny though that in the same time it took me to get to level 30 in EQ2, I got to level 55 in WoW. Thank god for WoW rofl, you'll die of boredom. Not saying thank god you'll die hehe just that you will die of boredom and laughing that you think WoW is great.
Zoning is not something that should be in next gen mmorpgs, which EQ2 is not!
No PVP right off the bat
Adventure and expansion packs, they split up the community even more and charge you even though your paying for the monthly sub. Eve online got it perfect!
Graphics are plain and boring
The world is boring
The raids are nowhere near as good as WOW (not saying i like WOW but them raids are just epic)
The quest system is abit weird
The dev's lied and the game stotally different from what they were explaining!
Why make EQ2 and make it a different game with the same name?
low populations
WOW came out at the same time
The game is just pure boring
the community is horrible!
noone ever talks in game : Most of them are on the forums spamming it to shit!
No voice overs in DOF! I mean whats that about? This the future of EQ2? rushed expansions?
I can say some nice things though:
Tradeskill is the best i've seen in anygame since Horizons
Graphics engine is future proof aslong as their artists make a good job of it like in DOF.
- I didnt like the Quests (well, I am not really into that Questing thing, anyway) - Graphics look nice at the beginning, but start to feel generic and boring after some time - This constant zoning was really annoying - Didnt see any point in leveling up - no exciting endgame imho (been playing DAoC for 3 years now - THERE you fnd a nice endgame)
Left after 4 months. At the time soloing wasn't so good and that's all I do.
Pro's: pretty game
Cons:
Zoning.Leveling.No weather on the green side of the world. Felt rigid (like wow..not playing it either) and programmed (hunt here at this level..move on to the next leveling area). All the community seemed interested in was leveling as fast as possible. The few groups I bothered with are always filled with young mouthy pushy people who seemed more like task masters than group mates.
While I was tired of EQ after 3 years it had a feel of immense size and eq was just another leveling game but reduced in size and scope. And when I found out that the great ocean sequence at the beginning of the game was not used later on when changing continents it was quite a let down.
I can't even say it was a eq clone but more a WoW wanna be. And that game drove me nuts in it's own way.
The "over 1000 quest added sinse launch" (as Sony brags) where simple kill task and fedx runs. No purpose beside leveling for the sake of leveling. No story, no PvP no compelling reason to play. Just dull. The world was full of zones and was very generic.
The game basicly lacked any personality.
I did like the character classes and combat system. I didn't see any point to the whole evil city good city thing without any PvP it was no reason to have it.
To be fair, there really are only a few quest archetypes, being kill quests, delivery quests, exploration quests, and crafting quests. Every quest in any game falls under one of these 4 categories. However, there are ways to make them interesting as opposed to bland.
Also, EQ2 might have a few interesting quests but from what I've noticed, the vast majority of them are bland and boring. It's not really EQ2's fault though, almost every other MMORPG has bland and boring quests and I don't think any game has gotten it quite right yet. However, it doesn't help EQ2 any.
Originally posted by Torak It was dull and unfocused. The "over 1000 quest added sinse launch" (as Sony brags) where simple kill task and fedx runs. No purpose beside leveling for the sake of leveling. No story, no PvP no compelling reason to play. Just dull. The world was full of zones and was very generic. The game basicly lacked any personality. I did like the character classes and combat system. I didn't see any point to the whole evil city good city thing without any PvP it was no reason to have it.
I really have to object about the "no story". It seems to me like everyone that has given reasons are the people that were destined for wow and really didn't give eq2 the time of day.
I just completed a quest that took me 3 days, and was very story line involved, and it gave me access to deathfist citadel. It also gave me a bow (that no one else had at my level...)
But, I, Like you, quit soon after launch, I came back... And that lack of personality is gone now, the quests are really involved, there is pvp, no locked encounters, and several other awesome things added to this game, I URGE you to just give it 7 days... You can't take it from me but this game is 10X better, and what you have to realize is no one here has played it since the content/CU. So all of this information is invalid anyways.
There really are 1000 more quests, involved ones, and ones that have a story... If you don't try it out, you will just be another wow fanboi that hates eq2 by default, and copies what others say...
Originally posted by Adamska Originally posted by Torak It was dull and unfocused. The "over 1000 quest added sinse launch" (as Sony brags) where simple kill task and fedx runs. No purpose beside leveling for the sake of leveling. No story, no PvP no compelling reason to play. Just dull. The world was full of zones and was very generic. The game basicly lacked any personality. I did like the character classes and combat system. I didn't see any point to the whole evil city good city thing without any PvP it was no reason to have it.
I really have to object about the "no story". It seems to me like everyone that has given reasons are the people that were destined for wow and really didn't give eq2 the time of day.
I just completed a quest that took me 3 days, and was very story line involved, and it gave me access to deathfist citadel. It also gave me a bow (that no one else had at my level...)
But, I, Like you, quit soon after launch, I came back... And that lack of personality is gone now, the quests are really involved, there is pvp, no locked encounters, and several other awesome things added to this game, I URGE you to just give it 7 days... You can't take it from me but this game is 10X better, and what you have to realize is no one here has played it since the content/CU. So all of this information is invalid anyways.
There really are 1000 more quests, involved ones, and ones that have a story... If you don't try it out, you will just be another wow fanboi that hates eq2 by default, and copies what others say...
Real shock hearing this from you, lol.
EQ2 is like kissing your sister, just nothing there. It's design was flawed from the beginning. Questing is horrid, compared to WoW, story line is meaningless when the basic game itself sucks. Combat was boring, originally, now, after the Combat upgrade, it is even worse....wash, rinse, repeat. As for the graphics, some one said it a week ago, the chars look like plastic....I've been hearing how EQ'2's graphics are superior to WoW, they are not....I get nauseaus after 10 minutes. Char diversity is also a joke, my level 38 Fury looks like my friends 10 Warden.....everything is brown and dark. I played EQ1 for 3 years and never thought the game was dull, boring and thankless, I felt this way about EQ2 within a week. With Sony's recent financial woes, I doubt you will be seeing major changes to EQ2, especially with thier declining nuimbers...it's 86 on EQ, over and out.
I definitely agree with Adamska here. If you have not played it since the CU/upgrade then you have not played the game at all. And if you have, well at least you tried it and gave it a fair shot. No game is for everyone, but most of the people I heard talk about EQ 2 since the changes have really liked what they did.
Scaramoosh horrible community? And what would you call WoW's community if EQ 2 is "horrible"? LOL, man what game were you trying? EQ 2 has one of the better communities, at least there are people there that at least try to roleplay. Yeah you have your idiots in every game but people seem to be more mature overall in EQ 2. Although I will admit that I have played and like WoW also, its just that the community does not seem to be as good. Nothing that Blizzard did wrong
Joekabuke how do you get off saying that EQ 2 has declining numbers? Last I saw there numbers are on the rise. Not only that I heard that the interest in Asia seems to be pretty high. SOE is going to pick up alot more subscribers there also.
I find this thread amusing. I swear, some of you people defend games like they are your religion. The OP asked why we left, we post our reasons, and the fanboys tell us our reasons are invalid. No, they are perfectly valid. Each person is allowed to have their own opinion, and everyone's opinion is just as valid as everyone elses'. You can disagree with someone's opinion, but calling it invalid is like admitting you are a close-minded buffoon.
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I left because my brother-in-law left after they nerfed the hell out of his Gaurdian. We are now looking into other MMORPGs. I do have to say game was a lot of fun for the first 6 months then just felt like the same old thing everyday.
Originally posted by En1Gma Originally posted by cabral91 I do have to say game was a lot of fun for the first 6 months then just felt like the same old thing everyday.
100% of EVERY mmorpg is like that. Just be ready for it
Except eve of course
Its kind of the opposite.
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[quote]Originally posted by moonfog [b][quote]Originally posted by scaramoosh [b]What killed the game IMO,
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[*]WOW came out at the same time
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Hahahhaha! EQ2 was out way before WoW. Just that comment shows me you dont have a clue about what you are talking about.[/b][/quote]
Are you serious? EQ2 came out about a month or so before WoW did..and when WoW came out a TON of people left EQ2 to go play WoW, so, whether you like WoW or not, WoW did hurt EQ2, it hurt every game that was in the genre that was out, thats what competition does.
No, they didn't come out at the exact same time, but being released within a month or two of each other does have a profound effect.
Originally posted by Agent_X7 I find this thread amusing. I swear, some of you people defend games like they are your religion. The OP asked why we left, we post our reasons, and the fanboys tell us our reasons are invalid. No, they are perfectly valid. Each person is allowed to have their own opinion, and everyone's opinion is just as valid as everyone elses'. You can disagree with someone's opinion, but calling it invalid is like admitting you are a close-minded buffoon.
Thats the eq2 fanboy for you.
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Originally posted by pirrg Originally posted by Agent_X7 I find this thread amusing. I swear, some of you people defend games like they are your religion. The OP asked why we left, we post our reasons, and the fanboys tell us our reasons are invalid. No, they are perfectly valid. Each person is allowed to have their own opinion, and everyone's opinion is just as valid as everyone elses'. You can disagree with someone's opinion, but calling it invalid is like admitting you are a close-minded buffoon.
Thats the eq2 fanboy for you.
Heh, well. Considering the EVE fanboy's have to waste their time bashing other games, and repeatedly say "Well, I'm Definently not playing now!" to every negative post... And WoW fanboi's (not to be confused with fanboys) not hitting puberty yet, plus posting cons about games ,and after being proved wrong, still post the same thing openly confirming their ignorance and idocracy....
Actually En1gma, not all the mmos are like that. Dont forget Evercrack, which had most people addicted for many years, even if they were doing the same things over and over. It was truly a brilliant game by the original designers. Which is why I'm looking forward to Vanguard, which is designed by many of the original EQ designers.
Edit: Which btw, the Everquest now is not nearly as good as the original EQ, once SOE took over instead of Verant it went downhill. It seems more "fun", but people get bored after a few months.
1. I though the EQ2 was great until it turned into this stupid FIGHT to get a cleric or any healer to join a group. I mean i would literally wait for 40-60 mins just to get a group up to go and play.
2. WoW came out and sucked almost all of our guild over, the fact that some of the skills you got at certain levels where just plain USELESS!
3. Killing the same mobs over and over again just sux ass!!
4. Mostly peeps quit at around lvl 25, and, without higher levels to mentor or whatver youd never near 50
Originally posted by Agent_X7 I find this thread amusing. I swear, some of you people defend games like they are your religion. The OP asked why we left, we post our reasons, and the fanboys tell us our reasons are invalid. No, they are perfectly valid. Each person is allowed to have their own opinion, and everyone's opinion is just as valid as everyone elses'. You can disagree with someone's opinion, but calling it invalid is like admitting you are a close-minded buffoon.
Thats the eq2 fanboy for you.
Heh, well. Considering the EVE fanboy's have to waste their time bashing other games, and repeatedly say "Well, I'm Definently not playing now!" to every negative post... And WoW fanboi's (not to be confused with fanboys) not hitting puberty yet, plus posting cons about games ,and after being proved wrong, still post the same thing openly confirming their ignorance and idocracy....
I'm glad to be a EQ2 fanboy.
I'm curious, where do you see the WoW 'fanbois' in this thread? I see no one extolling the virtues of WoW here, only people givnign the reasons they left. Also, nobody proved anybody wrong. Somethings have changed since some people left, but that doesn't mean what they thought of the game is 'wrong', it just means what they didn't like may have changed.
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Try WoW, 30 Sec Groups and Guilds last about as long.
MMORPG are way out of hand and almost unplayable these days.
Greed, PKers or PvP if you wish is all that counts now.
What killed the game IMO,
I can say some nice things though:
Apart from that other mmorpgs kill it
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- I didnt like the Quests (well, I am not really into that Questing thing, anyway)
- Graphics look nice at the beginning, but start to feel generic and boring after some time
- This constant zoning was really annoying
- Didnt see any point in leveling up - no exciting endgame imho (been playing DAoC for 3 years now - THERE you fnd a nice endgame)
Left after 4 months. At the time soloing wasn't so good and that's all I do.
Pro's: pretty game
Cons:
Zoning.Leveling.No weather on the green side of the world. Felt rigid (like wow..not playing it either) and programmed (hunt here at this level..move on to the next leveling area). All the community seemed interested in was leveling as fast as possible. The few groups I bothered with are always filled with young mouthy pushy people who seemed more like task masters than group mates.
While I was tired of EQ after 3 years it had a feel of immense size and eq was just another leveling game but reduced in size and scope. And when I found out that the great ocean sequence at the beginning of the game was not used later on when changing continents it was quite a let down.
I can't even say it was a eq clone but more a WoW wanna be. And that game drove me nuts in it's own way.
It was dull and unfocused.
The "over 1000 quest added sinse launch" (as Sony brags) where simple kill task and fedx runs. No purpose beside leveling for the sake of leveling. No story, no PvP no compelling reason to play. Just dull. The world was full of zones and was very generic.
The game basicly lacked any personality.
I did like the character classes and combat system. I didn't see any point to the whole evil city good city thing without any PvP it was no reason to have it.
To be fair, there really are only a few quest archetypes, being kill quests, delivery quests, exploration quests, and crafting quests. Every quest in any game falls under one of these 4 categories. However, there are ways to make them interesting as opposed to bland.
Also, EQ2 might have a few interesting quests but from what I've noticed, the vast majority of them are bland and boring. It's not really EQ2's fault though, almost every other MMORPG has bland and boring quests and I don't think any game has gotten it quite right yet. However, it doesn't help EQ2 any.
I really have to object about the "no story". It seems to me like everyone that has given reasons are the people that were destined for wow and really didn't give eq2 the time of day.
I just completed a quest that took me 3 days, and was very story line involved, and it gave me access to deathfist citadel. It also gave me a bow (that no one else had at my level...)
But, I, Like you, quit soon after launch, I came back... And that lack of personality is gone now, the quests are really involved, there is pvp, no locked encounters, and several other awesome things added to this game, I URGE you to just give it 7 days... You can't take it from me but this game is 10X better, and what you have to realize is no one here has played it since the content/CU. So all of this information is invalid anyways.
There really are 1000 more quests, involved ones, and ones that have a story... If you don't try it out, you will just be another wow fanboi that hates eq2 by default, and copies what others say...
I really have to object about the "no story". It seems to me like everyone that has given reasons are the people that were destined for wow and really didn't give eq2 the time of day.
I just completed a quest that took me 3 days, and was very story line involved, and it gave me access to deathfist citadel. It also gave me a bow (that no one else had at my level...)
But, I, Like you, quit soon after launch, I came back... And that lack of personality is gone now, the quests are really involved, there is pvp, no locked encounters, and several other awesome things added to this game, I URGE you to just give it 7 days... You can't take it from me but this game is 10X better, and what you have to realize is no one here has played it since the content/CU. So all of this information is invalid anyways.
There really are 1000 more quests, involved ones, and ones that have a story... If you don't try it out, you will just be another wow fanboi that hates eq2 by default, and copies what others say...
Real shock hearing this from you, lol.
EQ2 is like kissing your sister, just nothing there. It's design was flawed from the beginning. Questing is horrid, compared to WoW, story line is meaningless when the basic game itself sucks. Combat was boring, originally, now, after the Combat upgrade, it is even worse....wash, rinse, repeat. As for the graphics, some one said it a week ago, the chars look like plastic....I've been hearing how EQ'2's graphics are superior to WoW, they are not....I get nauseaus after 10 minutes. Char diversity is also a joke, my level 38 Fury looks like my friends 10 Warden.....everything is brown and dark. I played EQ1 for 3 years and never thought the game was dull, boring and thankless, I felt this way about EQ2 within a week. With Sony's recent financial woes, I doubt you will be seeing major changes to EQ2, especially with thier declining nuimbers...it's 86 on EQ, over and out.
I definitely agree with Adamska here. If you have not played it since the CU/upgrade then you have not played the game at all. And if you have, well at least you tried it and gave it a fair shot. No game is for everyone, but most of the people I heard talk about EQ 2 since the changes have really liked what they did.
Scaramoosh horrible community?
And what would you call WoW's community if EQ 2 is "horrible"? LOL, man what game were you trying? EQ 2 has one of the better communities, at least there are people there that at least try to roleplay. Yeah you have your idiots in every game but people seem to be more mature overall in EQ 2. Although I will admit that I have played and like WoW also, its just that the community does not seem to be as good. Nothing that Blizzard did wrong 
Joekabuke how do you get off saying that EQ 2 has declining numbers? Last I saw there numbers are on the rise. Not only that I heard that the interest in Asia seems to be pretty high. SOE is going to pick up alot more subscribers there also.
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100% of EVERY mmorpg is like that. Just be ready for it
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
There were a few things, the most recent --
That's just the top of the list
100% of EVERY mmorpg is like that. Just be ready for it
Except eve of course
Its kind of the opposite.
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[quote]Originally posted by scaramoosh
[b]What killed the game IMO,
[list]
[*]WOW came out at the same time
[/b][/quote]
Hahahhaha! EQ2 was out way before WoW. Just that comment shows me you dont have a clue about what you are talking about.
[quote]Originally posted by moonfog
[b][quote]Originally posted by scaramoosh
[b]What killed the game IMO,
[list]
[*]WOW came out at the same time
[/b][/quote]
Hahahhaha! EQ2 was out way before WoW. Just that comment shows me you dont have a clue about what you are talking about.[/b][/quote]
Are you serious? EQ2 came out about a month or so before WoW did..and when WoW came out a TON of people left EQ2 to go play WoW, so, whether you like WoW or not, WoW did hurt EQ2, it hurt every game that was in the genre that was out, thats what competition does.
No, they didn't come out at the exact same time, but being released within a month or two of each other does have a profound effect.
Thats the eq2 fanboy for you.
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Thats the eq2 fanboy for you.
Heh, well. Considering the EVE fanboy's have to waste their time bashing other games, and repeatedly say "Well, I'm Definently not playing now!" to every negative post... And WoW fanboi's (not to be confused with fanboys) not hitting puberty yet, plus posting cons about games ,and after being proved wrong, still post the same thing openly confirming their ignorance and idocracy....
I'm glad to be a EQ2 fanboy.
Actually En1gma, not all the mmos are like that. Dont forget Evercrack, which had most people addicted for many years, even if they were doing the same things over and over. It was truly a brilliant game by the original designers. Which is why I'm looking forward to Vanguard, which is designed by many of the original EQ designers.
Edit: Which btw, the Everquest now is not nearly as good as the original EQ, once SOE took over instead of Verant it went downhill. It seems more "fun", but people get bored after a few months.
i left because playing it was more of a job then a game. The only thing i really liked about the game was some parts of the landscape.
-Cloudoffire-
1. I though the EQ2 was great until it turned into this stupid FIGHT to get a cleric or any healer to join a group. I mean i would literally wait for 40-60 mins just to get a group up to go and play.
2. WoW came out and sucked almost all of our guild over, the fact that some of the skills you got at certain levels where just plain USELESS!
3. Killing the same mobs over and over again just sux ass!!
4. Mostly peeps quit at around lvl 25, and, without higher levels to mentor or whatver youd never near 50
Thats the eq2 fanboy for you.
Heh, well. Considering the EVE fanboy's have to waste their time bashing other games, and repeatedly say "Well, I'm Definently not playing now!" to every negative post... And WoW fanboi's (not to be confused with fanboys) not hitting puberty yet, plus posting cons about games ,and after being proved wrong, still post the same thing openly confirming their ignorance and idocracy....
I'm glad to be a EQ2 fanboy.
I'm curious, where do you see the WoW 'fanbois' in this thread? I see no one extolling the virtues of WoW here, only people givnign the reasons they left. Also, nobody proved anybody wrong. Somethings have changed since some people left, but that doesn't mean what they thought of the game is 'wrong', it just means what they didn't like may have changed.
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