...lol, such hatred and rancor over the success over a video game... You fellas need to get outside and go for a walk, it clears the head... I for one believe that EQ2 is dramatically on the rise... WoW introduced literally millions of new gamers to the world of an MMO, and with SOE's marketing saavy, they are now reaping the benefits from WoW exiles as other games are, and EQ2 is next up to WoW for word of mouth and advertising factors go... Make no mistake about it though, the new subs and drastic increase of new players doesn't have anything to do with the 'uber-ness' of EQ2, but rather since millions of potential buyers are now all of a sudden looking for another game like WoW, but isn't WoW and EQ2 is next on the totem pole... SOE should seriously send Blizzard a fruitbasket for x-mas or something...
While it is plausible that EQ2 changed the definition of 'Heavy' and 'Medium' (because they CAN do that, it is after all, their game) this is highly unlikely... If EQ2 ever dropped below 200k subs, then it would be more of a possibility...
My only gripe with EQ2 is that they (like all other poorly run MMO's) elected to change the fundamental mechanics of their game midstride, and really looked like asses in the end (to me at least)... This happened with SWG too, and I never looked back... Oh well, still a good game though with lots of new players incoming...
Originally posted by pirrg Originally posted by anarchyart It's actually easy to start a new toon now. On my server AB when I checked late at night there were an equal number of players between 1-20 as there were from 40+, which was a few hundred. There were 98 some odd players between the levels of 15 and 20 which is plenty to group with. Finding groups is easy but some people (myself included) will tend to be anti-social at times. Don't be afraid to do a /who your level range and start chatting people up. Ask them if they're in a group or would they like to come group with you. I find this type of behaviour leads to a group 100% of the time.
What ive heard and read directly contradicts your statement.
My suggestion is that you go to the official forum and read what people are saying about the lack of players and groups.
Pirrg: I can attest to what Anarchy is saying. I have two toons on AB. Neither is a healer class and, thus, not in super-demand. But I ALWAYS Get a group when I want one. It's very easy to get in a group. Most of the people griping on the official forums are people who spam /ooc with "LFG" and on most servers people pay ZERO attention to OOC chat. I use the group finder tool almost exclusively coupled with /who and tells. Always have, even in EQ1. NEVER have I had trouble finding a group. Even playing a Crusader.
Currently Playing: Dungeons and Dragons Online. Sig image Pending Still in: A couple Betas
Originally posted by En1Gma pirrg.Hold up....You've been trashing this game for months and you never played it?? This whole time I thought you had played it for months and then got fed up with it and made it some sort of thing to say negative things about the game.But...you never played it?? Out of 293 posts you have I think over 85% of them are anti-EQ2 posts and you never played the game?Why are you hating the game then? Isnt that a little "weird" to post more than half of your post against a game you havent played.Playing the game for months and then trolling the boards I can somewhat see. I did the same thing with SWG over a year and a half ago (ask xplorerer), however....I played it for a year. I had a reason at the time. But if you never played this game then what you're doing is trolling pure and simple.Its fine giving an opinion about a game you dont like but devoting 85% of your mmorpg.com life to giving negative (and sometimes outright trollish) responses to a game you havent played is sorta ....well..I really dont have a word for it.
All my posts are supported by facts and nothing else. Altough you admit to being a troll, i wont. Would you please stop breathing down my neck here? I havent broken any rules yet you pursue me from thread to thread either deleting me posts or showering me with all manners of vile mentation. If i dont provoke discussion on this board then who will? Maybe you are looking for a eq2 general discussion forum where everyone make threads praising the game and holding hands?
When i see something out of place, i will comment on it in an orderly fashion.
_____________________ I am the flipside of the coin on which the troll and the fanboy are but one side.
When are you going to realize that nothing you say about EQ2 matters. You have no clue what you are talking about, none. You read the EQ2players forums and think you know what you are talking about. People are way more likely to take the time to bash something they hate than to post something positive. No matter what game, what product, what anything...people will always focus on the negative. All the happy people playing EQ2 aren't saying sh!t, because they are content.
But why am I wasting my time on you pirrg. Nothing anyone says to you will make you realize that you have you head so far up your rear end you will never see the light....ever.
If you take what you read on forums, in the papers, on TV...whatever...and think it as absolute truth, then I truly feel sorry for you.
Go steal Mommy's credit card, buy the game and come back here in 2 months. Then at least you will have just a smidge of merit to ANYTHING you say.
Joined 2004 - I can't believe I've been a MMORPG.com member for 20 years! Get off my lawn!
pirrg only reason why I breath down your neck is because you and a couple others are closely monitored due to your "comments" It has nothing to with EQ2...you just happen to be the EQ2 Poster Child of monitoring. We have other Forum areas of people we monitor as well. You just post more than the others
They sort of transcends mere opinions about a game now. You do it to upset other people. Plain and simple...noother reason. Normal people complain about the game...say how much they absolutely hate it and then move on. An average hater of any game tends to post around 10-15 posts against the game and then tend to go through a "cooling off" period. Later, they move on to tother board topics. You just tend to hang around...post over a hundred (negative) and never played it.
A person who never played the game yet criticizes every person who like it from time to time sets off bells and whistles.
Its cool to not like the game or any game. It's weird to hate a game that you never played. It's even weirder to criticize those who played the game when you never played it. That is why we're watching you. It's not a normal trait.
Finally, I think we've been very fair. If we were jerks about it, we could have done jerky things to you and your posts. But, for the most part I think we've been fair.
Fair but always watching
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Originally posted by pirrg Haha, that was hilarious coldmeat En1Gma, since youre giving me subtle hints that im heading towards bannination, ill simply leave this forum section. Although, i hold strongly to the belief that all my posts are constructive and brim full with facts and nothing else. Cincerely yours, Pirrg Another victim of cencorship, farewell.
*looks at the swg forum while thoughtfully curling his moustache*
The thing is pirrg I'm sure you're a great person, but you have hatred for a game you have never even tried. That type of thing just isn't healthy for anyone, mostly yourself. Many of your posts did seem to be honest queries into the state and quality of the gameworld of EQ2, but they quickly degenerated into simple attacks on any positive statement posted.
Anyone can go and read other forums and find negative statements about any game, but what good does reporting these statements back to another sites forums do? Reporting on your own experiences would be helpful and valid, not reporting on someone elses. That is just trolling.
I stand by my claims that EQ2 is a vibrant rich and beautiful world filled with many challenges and dangers and a community you will come to know as friends. Here's to hoping you find that game that you seek, and will challenge you and keep you enthralled.
In my experience, the EQ2 devs need to get out, and take a peek at a real horse, as there are some serious physical deformities involved in the horses of Norrath.
And Faarwolf is, if that is indeed her on her website, livejournal, etc, really damned hot. Really. Damn. Hot.
Originally posted by pirrg If my posts hold no credability then why do you insist on aresponding to them in a trollish manner?
Who's the one trolling here? I think you've got some wires crossed there, junior. Anarchy's not the one who is constantly bashing EQ2 on the EQ2 forums when he hasn't even played the game. I can't help but wonder why you keep coming back. Do you not realize that the only thing your constant EQ2 rants and raves are accomplishing is stirring up the ant's nest? If you have it in you to try and make EQ2 a better game that you would like to enjoy, then go send your thoughts to SOE. Your persistance to stir up trouble here makes me think that YOU are the troll here. Either that or you're one Ace card short of a full deck.
If more people stirred up ant's nests, we'd A) have less ant's in my kitchen in the summer, and most likely have a much better group of people running our gov't.
I might not agree with everything Pirrg has to say regarding EQ2, but I don't consider what he has to say automatically invalid just because he hasn't, or isn't playing. He does occasionally bring up a valid point, and frankly, as trolls go, he's a hell of a lot more well spoken, and well mannered than most. Better than some of the people bashing him in some cases, too.
It's good to know he has at least one member to his fanclub.
If more people stirred up ant's nests, we'd A) have less ant's in my kitchen in the summer
I don't know much about the ecology of ants, but do they tend to swarm outward or run and stay home when they get pissed off?
most likely have a much better group of people running our gov't.
People have been doing that for years now it seems, and now we have Dubya in office. Next.
I might not agree with everything Pirrg has to say regarding EQ2, but I don't consider what he has to say automatically invalid just because he hasn't, or isn't playing. He does occasionally bring up a valid point, and frankly, as trolls go, he's a hell of a lot more well spoken, and well mannered than most. Better than some of the people bashing him in some cases, too.
A small fraction of what he says might have valid points, such as the more variety and more color issues. EQ2 possibly could use more of variety, but the game isn't lacking in either department, and it sure as hell doesn't need more color. Even someone who's only played Trial of the Isle, which in itself has a great deal of depth and immersion, would see this. If it had much more it would get into being pschodelic, which for me would be a turn off. The color and variety issues are just fronts though, he's in this mentality that the whole game sucks because he can't go as far as he wants to with the free trial version of the game.
Either that or he just gets off on trolling. Maybe it's both.
It really doesn't matter if he is well spoken and well mannered or an abselute twit. He's still a troll. He came here, posted his views on EQ2, and caused up a flame war. This is kind of like a Christian evangelist sending video messages into downtown Baghdad saying that Islam sucks and that they should all convert. Would this get what he wants accomplished? Nope, it would manage to piss a bunch of people off while he sits back to watch the chaos. This is all I see Pirrg getting from constantly logging into this forum and flaming EQ2.
If you dont or havent played EQ2 or dont have anything constructive to say pirrg why bother coming to the EQ2 forums unless your just looking to start something.
Why dont u go back to the Barbie Online forums where u belong.
To reel this thread back in, if anyone plays on AB server, or any for that matter since the combat revamp, add Ericsson to friends list and shoot me a tell when you're on. I dinged 19 last night, almost ready for my subclass quest! Not sure whether I'm gonna do Beserker or Guardian, probably guardian.
Originally posted by anarchyart To reel this thread back in, if anyone plays on AB server, or any for that matter since the combat revamp, add Ericsson to friends list and shoot me a tell when you're on. I dinged 19 last night, almost ready for my subclass quest! Not sure whether I'm gonna do Beserker or Guardian, probably guardian.
after the combat revamp:
guardian = super tank berserker = super dps
Schutzbar - Human Warrior - Windrunner Alliance - World of Warcraft Nihilanth - Kerra Paladin - Blackburrow - EverQuest II XBL Gamertag - Eagle15GT
Originally posted by anarchyart To reel this thread back in, if anyone plays on AB server, or any for that matter since the combat revamp, add Ericsson to friends list and shoot me a tell when you're on. I dinged 19 last night, almost ready for my subclass quest! Not sure whether I'm gonna do Beserker or Guardian, probably guardian.
after the combat revamp:
guardian = super tank berserker = super dps
OOohh really? What kind of DPS is berserker comarable to? Right up there with Sorceror and Monk?
after the combar revamp berserkers are comparable to a rogue (a serious amount of DPS, right under rangers) for extended fights, but for very short fights (especially against group mobs thanks to the lvl 50 spell rampage) they may just have the best dps in the game. ive known berserkers to break 1000dps in fights against a group of single arrow, no arrow, or down arrow mobs that lasted under 15 seconds if rampage was up.
Schutzbar - Human Warrior - Windrunner Alliance - World of Warcraft Nihilanth - Kerra Paladin - Blackburrow - EverQuest II XBL Gamertag - Eagle15GT
Nihilanth, I have a froglok fighter I'm currently playing who at this time I would like to take down the road of the Paladin. I was wondering what you thought of paladins as tanking and overall combat compared to other fighter types. Can they be a frontline tank or are they better suited as a backup and support?
Just have a question. Couldnt SOE just fix the servers so they could hold less people then they were six months ago? If they did that then the populations just appear medium or high.
Have played: CoH, DDO EQ2, FFXI, L2, HZ, SoR, and WW2 online
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...lol, such hatred and rancor over the success over a video game... You fellas need to get outside and go for a walk, it clears the head... I for one believe that EQ2 is dramatically on the rise... WoW introduced literally millions of new gamers to the world of an MMO, and with SOE's marketing saavy, they are now reaping the benefits from WoW exiles as other games are, and EQ2 is next up to WoW for word of mouth and advertising factors go... Make no mistake about it though, the new subs and drastic increase of new players doesn't have anything to do with the 'uber-ness' of EQ2, but rather since millions of potential buyers are now all of a sudden looking for another game like WoW, but isn't WoW and EQ2 is next on the totem pole... SOE should seriously send Blizzard a fruitbasket for x-mas or something...
While it is plausible that EQ2 changed the definition of 'Heavy' and 'Medium' (because they CAN do that, it is after all, their game) this is highly unlikely... If EQ2 ever dropped below 200k subs, then it would be more of a possibility...
My only gripe with EQ2 is that they (like all other poorly run MMO's) elected to change the fundamental mechanics of their game midstride, and really looked like asses in the end (to me at least)... This happened with SWG too, and I never looked back... Oh well, still a good game though with lots of new players incoming...
What ive heard and read directly contradicts your statement.
My suggestion is that you go to the official forum and read what people are saying about the lack of players and groups.
Pirrg:
I can attest to what Anarchy is saying. I have two toons on AB. Neither is a healer class and, thus, not in super-demand. But I ALWAYS Get a group when I want one. It's very easy to get in a group. Most of the people griping on the official forums are people who spam /ooc with "LFG" and on most servers people pay ZERO attention to OOC chat. I use the group finder tool almost exclusively coupled with /who and tells. Always have, even in EQ1. NEVER have I had trouble finding a group. Even playing a Crusader.
Currently Playing: Dungeons and Dragons Online.
Sig image Pending
Still in: A couple Betas
All my posts are supported by facts and nothing else. Altough you admit to being a troll, i wont. Would you please stop breathing down my neck here? I havent broken any rules yet you pursue me from thread to thread either deleting me posts or showering me with all manners of vile mentation. If i dont provoke discussion on this board then who will? Maybe you are looking for a eq2 general discussion forum where everyone make threads praising the game and holding hands?
When i see something out of place, i will comment on it in an orderly fashion.
_____________________
I am the flipside of the coin on which the troll and the fanboy are but one side.
Ahhh pirrg....
When are you going to realize that nothing you say about EQ2 matters. You have no clue what you are talking about, none. You read the EQ2players forums and think you know what you are talking about. People are way more likely to take the time to bash something they hate than to post something positive. No matter what game, what product, what anything...people will always focus on the negative. All the happy people playing EQ2 aren't saying sh!t, because they are content.
But why am I wasting my time on you pirrg. Nothing anyone says to you will make you realize that you have you head so far up your rear end you will never see the light....ever.
If you take what you read on forums, in the papers, on TV...whatever...and think it as absolute truth, then I truly feel sorry for you.
Go steal Mommy's credit card, buy the game and come back here in 2 months. Then at least you will have just a smidge of merit to ANYTHING you say.
Joined 2004 - I can't believe I've been a MMORPG.com member for 20 years! Get off my lawn!
you see how someone can totally take your comment and then start a flame war with it?
Its an unending loop. You can sayone thing, another person can use it against you and thus, the flaming begins.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
pirrg only reason why I breath down your neck is because you and a couple others are closely monitored due to your "comments" It has nothing to with EQ2...you just happen to be the EQ2 Poster Child of monitoring. We have other Forum areas of people we monitor as well. You just post more than the others
They sort of transcends mere opinions about a game now. You do it to upset other people. Plain and simple...noother reason. Normal people complain about the game...say how much they absolutely hate it and then move on. An average hater of any game tends to post around 10-15 posts against the game and then tend to go through a "cooling off" period. Later, they move on to tother board topics. You just tend to hang around...post over a hundred (negative) and never played it.
A person who never played the game yet criticizes every person who like it from time to time sets off bells and whistles.
Its cool to not like the game or any game. It's weird to hate a game that you never played. It's even weirder to criticize those who played the game when you never played it. That is why we're watching you. It's not a normal trait.
Finally, I think we've been very fair. If we were jerks about it, we could have done jerky things to you and your posts. But, for the most part I think we've been fair.
Fair but always watching
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
/golf clap
lol coldmeat. That's funny
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Haha, that was hilarious coldmeat
En1Gma, since youre giving me subtle hints that im heading towards bannination, ill simply leave this forum section.
Although, i hold strongly to the belief that all my posts are constructive and brim full with facts and nothing else.
Cincerely yours, Pirrg
Another victim of cencorship, farewell.
*looks at the swg forum while thoughtfully curling his moustache*
_____________________
I am the flipside of the coin on which the troll and the fanboy are but one side.
The thing is pirrg I'm sure you're a great person, but you have hatred for a game you have never even tried. That type of thing just isn't healthy for anyone, mostly yourself. Many of your posts did seem to be honest queries into the state and quality of the gameworld of EQ2, but they quickly degenerated into simple attacks on any positive statement posted.
Anyone can go and read other forums and find negative statements about any game, but what good does reporting these statements back to another sites forums do? Reporting on your own experiences would be helpful and valid, not reporting on someone elses. That is just trolling.
I stand by my claims that EQ2 is a vibrant rich and beautiful world filled with many challenges and dangers and a community you will come to know as friends. Here's to hoping you find that game that you seek, and will challenge you and keep you enthralled.
In my experience, the EQ2 devs need to get out, and take a peek at a real horse, as there are some serious physical deformities involved in the horses of Norrath.
And Faarwolf is, if that is indeed her on her website, livejournal, etc, really damned hot.
Really. Damn. Hot.
Who's the one trolling here? I think you've got some wires crossed there, junior. Anarchy's not the one who is constantly bashing EQ2 on the EQ2 forums when he hasn't even played the game. I can't help but wonder why you keep coming back. Do you not realize that the only thing your constant EQ2 rants and raves are accomplishing is stirring up the ant's nest? If you have it in you to try and make EQ2 a better game that you would like to enjoy, then go send your thoughts to SOE. Your persistance to stir up trouble here makes me think that YOU are the troll here. Either that or you're one Ace card short of a full deck.
I, for one, welcome our new Pirrgian overlords.
If more people stirred up ant's nests, we'd A) have less ant's in my kitchen in the summer, and most likely have a much better group of people running our gov't.
I might not agree with everything Pirrg has to say regarding EQ2, but I don't consider what he has to say automatically invalid just because he hasn't, or isn't playing. He does occasionally bring up a valid point, and frankly, as trolls go, he's a hell of a lot more well spoken, and well mannered than most. Better than some of the people bashing him in some cases, too.
If you dont or havent played EQ2 or dont have anything constructive to say pirrg why bother coming to the EQ2 forums unless your just looking to start something.
Why dont u go back to the Barbie Online forums where u belong.
after the combat revamp:
guardian = super tank
berserker = super dps
Schutzbar - Human Warrior - Windrunner Alliance - World of Warcraft
Nihilanth - Kerra Paladin - Blackburrow - EverQuest II
XBL Gamertag - Eagle15GT
after the combat revamp:
guardian = super tank
berserker = super dps
OOohh really? What kind of DPS is berserker comarable to? Right up there with Sorceror and Monk?
after the combar revamp berserkers are comparable to a rogue (a serious amount of DPS, right under rangers) for extended fights, but for very short fights (especially against group mobs thanks to the lvl 50 spell rampage) they may just have the best dps in the game. ive known berserkers to break 1000dps in fights against a group of single arrow, no arrow, or down arrow mobs that lasted under 15 seconds if rampage was up.
Schutzbar - Human Warrior - Windrunner Alliance - World of Warcraft
Nihilanth - Kerra Paladin - Blackburrow - EverQuest II
XBL Gamertag - Eagle15GT
just out of curiosity anarchyart, whats your game char's name?
Schutzbar - Human Warrior - Windrunner Alliance - World of Warcraft
Nihilanth - Kerra Paladin - Blackburrow - EverQuest II
XBL Gamertag - Eagle15GT
Just have a question. Couldnt SOE just fix the servers so they could hold less people then they were six months ago? If they did that then the populations just appear medium or high.
Have played: CoH, DDO EQ2, FFXI, L2, HZ, SoR, and WW2 online