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WOW or EQ2?

xephedrinexephedrine Member Posts: 62

I keep hearing eq2 is better from people i know from school but they never back it up

the other day i was at the store and i noticed WOW was twice the price of EQ2. I am trying to find a game thats worth my money.

Can someone explain why its twice the price. and what in ur opinion is a better game

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  • nolfnolf Member UncommonPosts: 869

    First off, let me say this. Go with the game that people you actually know are playing!!!! Thats what makes an mmo, your gaming groups.

    I personally prefer EQ2. I tried WOW a while back, and the leveling was far too quick for my taste (although I have been told that they fixed this). The main reason I like EQ2 over WOW is the community. Now, there are exceptions to every generalization, but I found the WOW community to lean a little more towards the nasty in comparison to EQ2.

    They have comparible gameplay/graphics. The reason EQ2 is less is probably because there is already an expansion out for it.

    I would say, go with what your friends are playing, its much easier to enjoy game with people you know from real life!

    I really hope that *insert game name here* will be the first game to ever live up to all of its pre-release promises, maintain a manageable hype level and have a clean release. Just don't expect me to hold my breath.

  • ZenNatureZenNature Member CommonPosts: 354

    I think what nolf said was best... no matter what game is better for whatever reason, if you don't know people to play with, any mmo won't be much fun. Yet, if you have good friends to play with, it'll make up for a lot of problems in any game and also let you see the more positive aspects of it easier.

    That having been said, my impression of both, having played both for awhile now, is EQ2 gives more of a sense of achievement in overcoming quests, developing your character, and accomplishing group-oriented tasks. WoW on the other hand, is more easy entertainment and low on the sense of any real achievement but easily soloable and doesn't take itself very seriously (i.e. the quest where you have to rid the inn of paranormal activity tossing a ghostbusters-like device under defeated ghosts). People might argue there is still a sense of achievement to obtaining that epic mount or set of armor in WoW, but for people not into getting the coolest loot and showing off, that doesn't do much. Conversationally speaking, they've taken a number of aspects of Diablo 2 and placed it in WoW, such as running the same instance 5,000 times to get that one drop you want, or piecing together an entire set of the same armor to get bonuses for the whole set, the downside being you will look like everyone else with that set.

    I personally think Everquest 2 can be tedious and is the main reason many go to WoW, being a lot less tedious and easier in general. But making a level, and overcoming high level quests and writs in Everquest 2 is a much much greater accomplishment and takes some work, as well as the trade professions. Hope that helps a bit in your decision, but both aspects and negatives I mentioned here are still easily overcome by good friends to play with imo.

  • BACONXBACONX Member UncommonPosts: 253
    I have played both and both games are really good games.  WOW is there for casual gamers as well as hard core gamers(40 man raids), but mostly for the casual crowd.  EQ2 is a lot more complex and needs a hard core type to fully appreciate it.  I have a family, a job and other responsibilities therefore WOW works out much better for my lifestyle.  I get a better sense of accomplishment from playing WOW for say two hours a night while it would take me twice that to do so in EQ2.  Just my opinion.
  • jssand2jssand2 Member Posts: 65


    Originally posted by nolf

    They have comparible gameplay/graphics. The reason EQ2 is less is probably because there is already an expansion out for it.

    Having played both as well (played EQ2 at launch for abot 2 months - no content - i quit / played WoW for about 9 months - got old)

    I have to mention that EQ2 was priced way down below WoW many months before the expansions came out and i truly think it is because they were getting spanked by Blizzard.

    That being said I am considering coming back to EQ2 and reading these boards to decide.

  • ArremusArremus Member Posts: 656



    Originally posted by jssand2


    Having played both as well (played EQ2 at launch for abot 2 months - no content - i quit / played WoW for about 9 months - got old)


    Love or hate the game (and most of us have the extremes of both), the EQ2 that you played for the first two months no longer exist.
    The EQ2 that is available now is a vasty superior product to what was released, period. In every way possible really.
    The gfx engine is still a buggy, lag ridden pos, but it looks fancy at least image... Naw it's not that bad, just needs a solid bit of optimising or somesuch.

    And as for the EQ2 for the hardcores, WoW for the casuals part, SoE are trying their hardest to shorten that gap, taking EQ2 up or down (depending which camp you're in) to WoW play style. For better or worse, not really sure...

    Sad thing is, I know a lot of people from both EQ2 and WoW who are all 'just waiting for something new'.

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  • xminatorxminator Member Posts: 306

    I would say Wow, and Eq2 -- And Eve. If you cant play them in parallell, play them serial :p If you manage to get sick of all 3, go outside instead ;)

  • JoekabukeJoekabuke Member Posts: 191

    what I am noticing is simple human psychology. As a current WoW player, I am just getting tired of it and want to try something different. Therefore, I will be subscribing to EQ2 as soon as the new patch becomes live giving quest givers some sort of indicator as WoW has now. Similarily, I am sure there are EQ2 players who have tired of there game and will try WoW or some other game. I think both games have solid value and are worth playing and enjoying.

  • 4tw.Krinn4tw.Krinn Member Posts: 22

    It all depends on what you look for in a MMO...  I have four 60's in WoW, all have there epic mount, exalted in some towns, there full epic set, and 2000 gold to spare (all hard earned by me) and I have played a bit of EQ2.

     

    Eq2 from the first week I played, I only was able to play about 4 hours.  I had more fun exploring, learning, and enjoying the graphics in that 4 hours then I ever did in the time I started playing WoW (from launch)

     


    Eq2 is a game you cannot FULLY enjoy without a nice machine to have the graphics on full.  WoW is a beat em up smash em game. While Eq2 is an social explorer type, with a more tight nit community. 

     

    Eq2 also allows you more individuality.   In WoW all warriors are going to be striving for the same armor, and generally have 1 or 3 diffrent builds.   Eq2 lets you all strive for the same armor and such, but there are many types of warriors, with diffrent armors helping them.  You strive for things that are good but look good as well.   All Valor armor in WoW is going to look the same no matter what... If Eq2 had Valor armor I doubt it would all the same, infact it would probably have diffrent colors and such.

     

     

    It is a contest between realism and cartoon.  You have to choose between a game that is played to be like you were actually living there and taking the time to do all that you do.  Or WoW where you can get across both the islands in 7 hours, and everything looks like it ran out of Looney Toons.

     

    And yes the aspect of playing with your friends does apply, but you can only handle a game so much before your friends don't matter to you, and that you need to leave cause a game sucks.

     

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  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378
    WoW and EQ2 are both great games. EQ2 will be a longer term game and more of a challenge. WoW is more expensive because they have millions of subscribers and don't need to lower the price. A kid can play WoW quite easily while EQ2 might frustrate them.

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  • cdeepalcdeepal Member UncommonPosts: 148
    EQ2 is much better compared to WoW in every way. Graphics, Sounds, Content, etc.
  • KorkoKorko Member Posts: 8

    WoW is much better compared to EQ2 in every way. Graphics, Sounds, Content, etc.

  • 4tw.Krinn4tw.Krinn Member Posts: 22



    Originally posted by Korko

    WoW is much better compared to EQ2 in every way. Graphics, Sounds, Content, etc.




    Ok really I could just say Project Offset is better then both of them...

     

     

    Im going to tell you right now, WoW's graphics are not nearly as good as Eq2.  But here is what we define good as.  To me "good" graphics represent realistic ones, the closer it looks like im looking out my window, the better the graphics are.  WoW's graphics are extremley cartoonish, Blizzard purposly made it that way to have a unique perspective on the game, as well as appeal to kids and and adults.  Eq2 wants to appeal to a more mature group of players, the elite of the elite in MMO's.

     

    As far as sounds go... Eq2 is FAR better then WoW.  They didn't put 9gigs worth of sounds for nothing.  Though I admit, WoW has some AWESOME sounds! But I like realistic sounds over WoWs hyped up cartoony sounds.

     

    Content, well they are both about equal in what they have, and it all depends on what you want to do.  WoW honostly has no exploration content, everyone knows exactly where everything is and whats there.  Eq2 has exploration content, where everyone isn't sure EXACTLY where everything is, things shift and change, new lands are released without exactly telling you whats there. 

     

    Eq2 has more classes, which means it has more (I'll finish later, I need to go to work)

     

     

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  • scaramooshscaramoosh Member Posts: 3,424

    Well EQ2's engine is more powerful but WOW's looks better!

    Just think the graphics are plain and boring.

     

    I prefer EQ2's UI and combat system but i like WOW's combat system for PVP

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  • jimmyman99jimmyman99 Member UncommonPosts: 3,221


    Originally posted by 4tw.Krinn
    Originally posted by Korko
    WoW is much better compared to EQ2 in every way. Graphics, Sounds, Content, etc.Ok really I could just say Project Offset is better then both of them...


    Im going to tell you right now, WoW's graphics are not nearly as good as Eq2. But here is what we define good as. To me "good" graphics represent realistic ones, the closer it looks like im looking out my window, the better the graphics are. WoW's graphics are extremley cartoonish, Blizzard purposly made it that way to have a unique perspective on the game, as well as appeal to kids and and adults. Eq2 wants to appeal to a more mature group of players, the elite of the elite in MMO's.

    As far as sounds go... Eq2 is FAR better then WoW. They didn't put 9gigs worth of sounds for nothing. Though I admit, WoW has some AWESOME sounds! But I like realistic sounds over WoWs hyped up cartoony sounds.

    Content, well they are both about equal in what they have, and it all depends on what you want to do. WoW honostly has no exploration content, everyone knows exactly where everything is and whats there. Eq2 has exploration content, where everyone isn't sure EXACTLY where everything is, things shift and change, new lands are released without exactly telling you whats there.

    Eq2 has more classes, which means it has more (I'll finish later, I need to go to work)


    Krinn~

    I dont find WoW sounds or graphics cartooney at all. No sir, they are fantasy style. If you want cartooney, go check Rose online or Flyff. EQ2 has more conventional graphics, therefore lacking its own individual style. Just seeing each race in WoW do their own unique moves (trolls sitting and streching) brings in more uniqueness into the game. When I see a character, I want to see a unique character, not just a character with a different skin. EQ2 character models are just plastic and unrealistic. I like EQ2 texture bumps though and i love landscapes too, but again, they are beautiful becuase they are high res. WoW may not be that high res, but for some reason i find WoW graphics to have this uniqueness that I simply enjoy pretty much everything about it.

    I also dont find 9 gigs of sound any use at all. I dont care if all NPCs have own voiceovers, for some reason it doesnt "click" for me. NPCs in EQ2 are just plain annoying. After hearing same voice over and over and over, it gets annoying to the point im just ignoring it. So much for 9 gigs of sound...

    In any case, I like WoW better becuase it fits my casual style better then EQ2. I still like EQ2, it has its own play style, and if i had much much more time on my hands id probably play both. But for now, im sticking to WoW till something better comes out.

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  • herculeshercules Member UncommonPosts: 4,925

    Well one thing i noticed in the 1 year both been out.

    Both had about equal amount of content at launch.

    But while WoW been battling the server loads and stability and newcomers over the year  they have been until recently almost no new content.

    EQ2 on other hand have been focusing on content and as such has suprassed by far WoW content.

    Now on other hand blizzard influx is settling down in last couple of months and they are now focusing a lot on content and who knows might actually catch up with EQ2.

    Both games have good merits and bad ones so really hard for me to say which to pick up.

    Would be nicer to hear what you are looking for in a game and your rig specs.

     

     

  • KorkoKorko Member Posts: 8


    But while WoW been battling the server loads and stability and newcomers over the year they have been until recently almost no new content.

    Ignorance must hurt. Blizzard has addet TONS of content to the game since then. Dungeons, quests, Gear, class changes, Battleground anyone, new features etc.. Im not saying EQ didnt add lots of content, i dont know it, i just read some about it, but hell i havent been on a game that updated stuff as frequently as Blizzard does (and by that i mean real patches that dont bring in 50% buged content insead of improvements).

  • 4tw.Krinn4tw.Krinn Member Posts: 22

    Ok to the guy about not thinking WoWs graphics aren't cartoony.

     

     

    Look out your window, and tell me if it looks like your looking into your computer.

     

     

    Put EQ2 on look outside (make sure graphics are on high) then look back to your computer.  Tell me which one is closer to looking like your looking at your computer while playing the game.

     

     

    Thank you

     


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  • JodokaiJodokai Member Posts: 1,621



    Originally posted by Arremus

    The gfx engine is still a buggy, lag ridden pos, but it looks fancy at least image... Naw it's not that bad, just needs a solid bit of optimising or somesuch.




    Now that's funny you would say that. I am currently playing EQ2 on a laptop with a dial-up modem, and it runs fine. I obvously can't turn up the graphics setting as high as I'd like, but I wouldn't say there was more lag than any other game.

    The thing that killed WoW for me was wait queues. I coudln't stand having to wait to play a game. Don't beleive anyone who tells you there are no wait queues. I was working nights for a time, so wan on on off peak hours and still had to wait (not as long, but they were there) and that is on a straight RP server which are the least crowded servers.

  • FlemFlem Member UncommonPosts: 2,870



    Originally posted by Korko




    But while WoW been battling the server loads and stability and newcomers over the year they have been until recently almost no new content.

    Ignorance must hurt. Blizzard has addet TONS of content to the game since then. Dungeons, quests, Gear, class changes, Battleground anyone, new features etc.. Im not saying EQ didnt add lots of content, i dont know it, i just read some about it, but hell i havent been on a game that updated stuff as frequently as Blizzard does (and by that i mean real patches that dont bring in 50% buged content insead of improvements).



    So WoW updates more frequently.  So basically you are saying you have more downtime for patches, must suck to play that game then with frequent downtime.
  • xminatorxminator Member Posts: 306

    Of course, thats why one game is on 1.09 while the other is on 1.18. Solid games both of them. Both games will release an expansion at about the same time next year.

  • JodokaiJodokai Member Posts: 1,621



    Originally posted by Korko



    Ignorance must hurt.
    Now I find that rather ironic. You calling someone ignorant when you say WoW is better than EQ2 "In every way", and you've never played EQ2.
    Blizzard has addet TONS of content to the game since then. Dungeons, quests, Gear, class changes, Battleground anyone, new features etc..
    You did know battlegrounds was supposed to be in at release right? You're getting excited that they added something that they said you'd get from the begining.
    Im not saying EQ didnt add lots of content, i dont know it, i just read some about it, but hell i havent been on a game that updated stuff as frequently as Blizzard does (and by that i mean real patches that dont bring in 50% buged content insead of improvements).
    But you said WoW is better "in every way". I know for a FACT EQ2 has added more content that WoW. All you have to do is look at patch notes to see that. So that's at least one way EQ2 is better.



    Some of the other comments I'd like to address:

    My Troll is unique: Yes you are correct, your troll is NOT like someone else's orc. However, your troll is almost exactly like every other troll in the game. With the exception of hair style and skin color, you're pretty much exact. There is far less customization in WoW than there is in EQ2.

    Graphics are not cartoony, look at some other game...: Just because another game is MORE cartoony doesn't mean WoW's aren't. I mean Bill Gates has more money, but Donald Trump is STILL rich. He doesn't become poor when someone makes more money than him.

    WoW's graphics are VERY cartoony. I'm not saying that that's good or bad, just that it is.

  • Kem0sabeKem0sabe Member Posts: 443

    People get exited about blizzard only delivering battle grounds after launch when they promissed them at launch... what i find dunny in this is that everyone seems to forget rather quickly the froglok fiasco, didnt SOE say that the froglok quest was in the game at launch? didnt they say frogloks could be unlocked at launch? when in fact they could not and the quest was not there, SOE kept saying it was untill months later they launched a patch that introduced frogloks into the game as a new playable race, with much publicity, when people pointed out that SOE lied to them from the begining about this, they were ignore by SOE.

    Thats the big diference between blizzard and SOE, one is rather honest to their playerbase, the other has no qualms in flat out lying deceiving and "raping" the player base if its convinient to them.

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  • JodokaiJodokai Member Posts: 1,621



    Originally posted by Kem0sabe

    People get exited about blizzard only delivering battle grounds after launch when they promissed them at launch... what i find dunny in this is that everyone seems to forget rather quickly the froglok fiasco, didnt SOE say that the froglok quest was in the game at launch? didnt they say frogloks could be unlocked at launch? when in fact they could not and the quest was not there, SOE kept saying it was untill months later they launched a patch that introduced frogloks into the game as a new playable race, with much publicity, when people pointed out that SOE lied to them from the begining about this, they were ignore by SOE.
    Nope you are mistaken. All SOE said players would have the opportunity to unlock frogloks. Players ASSUMED it would be in at release, and then as happens OFTEN (like in your post) devs get misquoted
    Thats the big diference between blizzard and SOE, one is rather honest to their playerbase, the other has no qualms in flat out lying deceiving and "raping" the player base if its convinient to them.
    LOL, keep telling yourself that. I guess you've forgotten the StarCraft fiasco. That's a REAL one, not a case of people assuming.



    Oh and speaking of "raping" the game has been out a year now and it's still $50?? Speaking of not getting value for your money, how long do you wait every day in a queue before you can play a game you're paying for?

  • IcoGamesIcoGames Member Posts: 2,360


    Originally posted by Jodokai
    Oh and speaking of "raping" the game has been out a year now and it's still $50?? Speaking of not getting value for your money, how long do you wait every day in a queue before you can play a game you're paying for?

    People are still paying $50 for WoW?
    Oh and I waited exactly 0.0000^3 seconds in the queue last night. ><

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  • JodokaiJodokai Member Posts: 1,621
    And I waited 13 minutes.
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