Not giving the best graphics to EQ2 just show some huge flaws behind peoples logics. Fanboi to the extreme! LOL. A community that keep claiming they are mature, not kids...yet they bluntly state EVE is the best for graphics? I dunno, those choices kinda lose all their credibility over this point for me. Especially that...it is not even close...it show a clear majority thinking EVE is #1, than WoW? LOL, presponderous! Talk about a complete lack of maturity for a community! Often peoples state what they lack the most as their quality. EQ vent a lot about soloing. EVE vent a lot about a mature community. Now about graphics...LOL.
There is no way EVE graphics are even in the same category...but well...if someone say that Poopy from GU Comics is the best draw Woody made, he have a right to.
But EQ2 graphics are simply outstanding.
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
Originally posted by Anofalye Not giving the best graphics to EQ2 just show some huge flaws behind peoples logics. Fanboi to the extreme! LOL. A community that keep claiming they are mature, not kids...yet they bluntly state EVE is the best for graphics? I dunno, those choices kinda lose all their credibility over this point for me.
Voting is a lot like politics. Eve Online obviously got the votes out. EQ2 didn't. Best graphics is comepletly subjective as well. I know people who swear by the WoW graphics better then EQ2 graphics. If you mean better in terms of processor hog, then YES EQ2 would win that vote!
Am I the only one who realizes that it's not about how many subscribers the game has?
I'm not a huge EVE fan as I play a lot of other games, but I have to agree with the results. CCP has become one of the greatest independent developers on earth - and their game EVE Online shows why. The game isn't for those with short attention spans. The games complexity casts a shadow that could cover the entire world of Azeroth.
I for one congratulate CCP and their awards because they certainly earned it.
Voting is a lot like politics. Eve Online obviously got the votes out. EQ2 didn't. Best graphics is comepletly subjective as well. I know people who swear by the WoW graphics better then EQ2 graphics. If you mean better in terms of processor hog, then YES EQ2 would win that vote!
WoW graphics have a style, but they are by no means the same quality. WoW lack the very tools to compete. Yes, they are nice, yes they have a style, but they doesn't even have the tools to compete. Saying anyone won beside EQ2 is like saying someone using 4 colors has the best graphics. Considering that EQ2 graphics are extremely nices and that they use FAR superior technology and tools and mucho work (Kudos SoE), well, they eliminate all competition.
Someone saying otherwise is blinded. Yes, I have some friends who are great artists, they make wonderful stuff, but they won't claim that what they do is nicer when they doesn't even have the tools.
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
Originally posted by Triple_Black Originally posted by Anofalye Not giving the best graphics to EQ2 just show some huge flaws behind peoples logics. Fanboi to the extreme! LOL. A community that keep claiming they are mature, not kids...yet they bluntly state EVE is the best for graphics? I dunno, those choices kinda lose all their credibility over this point for me. Voting is a lot like politics. Eve Online obviously got the votes out. EQ2 didn't. Best graphics is comepletly subjective as well. I know people who swear by the WoW graphics better then EQ2 graphics. If you mean better in terms of processor hog, then YES EQ2 would win that vote!
Yeah, but when they say better graphics in reference to WoW. They aren't talking about texture quality or the overall graphics engine itself. They are talking about the art style itself. EQ2 by far has the best looking graphics of any game currently out. Because the graphics engine itself is very robust and can do many things. Good graphics though is more then just a great engine. It's also art style. You can have the prettiest textures in the world, but if concept behind the world has no flare. Well then that shiny new graphics engine is pretty useless.
I agree with the guy though. Saying Eve-Online has the best graphcis is just plain laughable. Hence why it is one of the reasons that I am disappointed by this poll. Winning 4 catergories? Come on, lets be real now. If the poll was accurate no game would have even won two catergories.
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Well i played most of the mmorpgs outhere, and i got to say EVE is one of the best now, besides Asheron's Call which still is a great very old mmorpg, the complexity, the non grind, the graphics, the pvp, and the player market driven universe in EVE won.
EVE is a good game, but is not a perfect game. Bugs do exists, some game design mistakes are in, but overall is the best game on the market, if u like complex, nice mmorpgs.
One of the best things i love about this game, is that i dont have to grind like u guys do in WOW, Lineage and so on. If i dont play month my skill will train anyway( the one i choose to train), and also the market is controlled by the players, the crafting(manufacturing system is great) on comparison with the other games. Also there is one server( ONE SERVER) with 17-23k ppl on it.
WOW has the largest player data base because is newb mmorpg, most of the players there are at their first mmorpg, which is okie i guess to start with. Before WOW i played other mmorpgs, so i couldnt resist more then 2 weeks.
Originally posted by ssj4goten Aren't you meant to be leveling up now?
Go play Warcraft and let the people who can actually play MMORPGs play Eve
Yes because we all know putting a ship on auto pilot and going to the store while it travels 40 minutes is actually playing a mmorpg.
Or you could spend an hour or two making instajump bookmarks (or five minutes getting a copied set from another player) and only take 5-10 minutes to travel the same distance the rest of the time you play EVE.
This is another instance where preparation and forethought are important to gameplay, and the reason why EVE tends to weed out the less mature - or, at least, less patient - players
I'll reiterate what many have said before: EVE's depth and complexity help make it the great game it is, though by its very nature it isn't for everyone. CCP set out to appeal to a certain customer type and have done so with excellence.
As for the graphics, despite the fact that it's an older game the graphics still blow me away. For proof, check the link that was previously posted to the official game trailer - all of those graphics are from gameplay capture footage. In addition, there are some wicked player-made videos, such as:
And, as previously stated, CCP is constantly updating EVE's graphics (and rumor has it they will be updating some of the older ship models Soon).
This attention to detail goes hand-in-hand with CCP's excellent level of interaction with their customer base - for example, I've had the lead developer, Oveur, personally respond to one of my posts in a forum thread before.
As for the PvP side, nothing else compares. I've played other MMOs that involve PvP, and also first person shooters such as Battlefield 1942, Unreal Tournament 2004, etc., and nothing else gives you the same level of adrenaline rush short of risking your neck doing something stupid IRL, like jumping out of an airplane, bungee jumping, etc.
The reason for this is simple: as others have stated, losses matter in EVE. When you lose a ship, it's gone, period, and you have to spend time carebearing to replace it. Also, tactics and strategy matter greatly.
To start, you need to choose the right ship type for the job at hand, then you have to fit the right equipment. Following this, pre-engagement maneuvers are vital - in addition to bringing your opponent(s) to action in the first place, it is imperative that you do so in a manner that favors your side. Then the real fun begins - the actual fight, where tactics matter, whether you're flying solo or alongside a fleet of hundreds of your closest friends (yes, EVE does have fleet fights that involve upwards of 100 people, sometimes upwards of 200...on each side).
Anyway, to put it bluntly, all of these facets combine to make EVE second-to-none as a MMO, IMO.
-Wrayeth "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
I have to agree with Roin on this. Overall it's pretty disappointing.
It could only be worse if UO was on the ticket and there were tons of UO fanboys here just voting UO best in every category just because they think the game is the next messiah. I usually don't post around here because it just seems that everytime someone says something about a game, some EVE cultist pops up about how EVE is totally on this surreal level of play and that waiting for your skills to level via time is some great idea and if you don't get it, you must be 3 years old.
Originally posted by Roin We should reallly thank all the Eve-Online players with their multiple accounts. For ruining yet another thing on MMORPG.com. Game Ratings, then hopping in threads to post advertisments for Eve-Online. Another fun event ruined by a bunch of people that treat their game like a religious cult. Just disappointing to say the least. After always hearing them preach about how mature their community is. Anyone that thinks those results are accurate. All I will say is 'tsk tsk'.
right.....
FYI there was ONE thread with the link to the awards thing.. people who like the game voted. Im sure if people didnt like the game, they would not vote. You are very bitter ;
Play eve, talk to the community and maybe you will understand that that would be a rather idiotic thing to do, not to emntion a huge waste of time.
For those of you that have not yet played eve, i suggest you at east try it .. it sucked me in, even though i promised myself i would never pay for any online game .. oh well it was worth it
Originally posted by Anofalye Not giving the best graphics to EQ2 just show some huge flaws behind peoples logics. Fanboi to the extreme! LOL. A community that keep claiming they are mature, not kids...yet they bluntly state EVE is the best for graphics? I dunno, those choices kinda lose all their credibility over this point for me.
Voting is a lot like politics. Eve Online obviously got the votes out. EQ2 didn't. Best graphics is comepletly subjective as well. I know people who swear by the WoW graphics better then EQ2 graphics. If you mean better in terms of processor hog, then YES EQ2 would win that vote!
Yeah, but when they say better graphics in reference to WoW. They aren't talking about texture quality or the overall graphics engine itself. They are talking about the art style itself. EQ2 by far has the best looking graphics of any game currently out. Because the graphics engine itself is very robust and can do many things. Good graphics though is more then just a great engine. It's also art style. You can have the prettiest textures in the world, but if concept behind the world has no flare. Well then that shiny new graphics engine is pretty useless.
I agree with the guy though. Saying Eve-Online has the best graphcis is just plain laughable. Hence why it is one of the reasons that I am disappointed by this poll. Winning 4 catergories? Come on, lets be real now. If the poll was accurate no game would have even won two catergories.
have you even seen some of the eve videos? im beginning to doubt youve played this game at all ..
The graphics in WoW are good due to the art, granted, but IMO nothing compares to the "real" graphics of eve.. with cartoon graphics you are just tking the easy way out. Yes it can be impressive but...
Well EVE players, fan boys or just players, when u bash the game, because u played 2 days, or have no idea, the wont come like WOW players or other "games" outhere, and say "OMG DSJHF U SUXOR". EVE cultists are mature, and they will come to you gently, explain what they like and what not, why is better, why is worse etc.. You should try sometimes, maybe ppl will understand you. Ill stop now to post, i dont like to argue with ppl that have no idea what they are talking about, is like me arguing with a lvl 60 WOW player which instance is the best, when i have no idea....
So u go guys bash EVE, but the truth it seems based on the votes, that is the best game on the market, tho is pretty easy these days with the craps are available now, or ok games managed very badly( see Lineage 2- large population of farmers, bots user, etc).
EvE is all about the people. Nobody could give a damn what quest or what item you have. The citizens of the EvE galaxy are what makes the game so insane. So its not suprising that the people who are all united even if in hate, all vote together. Our game rocks
Originally posted by dorobu I have to agree with Roin on this. Overall it's pretty disappointing. It could only be worse if UO was on the ticket and there were tons of UO fanboys here just voting UO best in every category just because they think the game is the next messiah. I usually don't post around here because it just seems that everytime someone says something about a game, some EVE cultist pops up about how EVE is totally on this surreal level of play and that waiting for your skills to level via time is some great idea and if you don't get it, you must be 3 years old.
This is where your lack of experience with EVE shows - you don't have to have played for years to kick some ass in EVE. Even a two week old noob in a frigate can take out another player with proper preparation and tactics - it's happened on more than one occasion.
It's all about catching your enemy unprepared and in the wrong ship type to deal with what you throw at them - for instance, taking your tech 1 frigate up against a battleship at the outset might not be the smartest move, unless that battleship happens to be fitted for mining and not combat (or unless you have five or six friends with you, even if they're just in frigs). In contrast, if you get in close to a long-range cruiser with your little frigate, the cruiser's long-range guns won't be able to hit you and all he'll be able to do is sit there and watch his ship slowly die as you orbit and shoot him from point blank, your warp scrambler active to prevent him from getting away.
Seriously, there have been hundreds of threads on the "Crime and Punishment" section of the EVE forums about how a new player set out to be a pirate and ransomed (or killed) someone who's been playing for years with his three-week old character.
New players can also be effective in larger groups. Say you're taking a gang of ten battleships out to engage an enemy gate-camp. The battleships' long lock times and poor maneuverability means they may not get in range or lock targets soon enough to prevent them from getting away. This is where you, the new player can truly shine: you take your frigate, fit with a microwarp drive so you can attain ridiculously high velocities, and immediately approach, lock up, and warp scramble the target(s) while the larger ships are still getting a lock. By doing this, you will have made the entire endeavor possible by holding the enemy in place so your gang can smash them.
So, again, unlike other MMOs, where a low level character is pretty much useless, a character who's been around for just a few weeks can be effective.
-Wrayeth "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
Originally posted by Lardarz Until you've played it, stop slagging Eve off and go back into your grubby little wizardy holes
I've played it and asside from the character creation it's dull, boring and not in the least bit entertaining.
What does suprise me though is all the EvE nerds that come here and tell us how great it is and inflate the rankings of the crappy game.
22k people online is a big deal? DAoC has like 45k during the evenings world wide and that game has been out for years and probably not at it's peak right now.
Originally posted by Celestian Originally posted by Lardarz Until you've played it, stop slagging Eve off and go back into your grubby little wizardy holes
I've played it and asside from the character creation it's dull, boring and not in the least bit entertaining.
What does suprise me though is all the EvE nerds that come here and tell us how great it is and inflate the rankings of the crappy game.
22k people online is a big deal? DAoC has like 45k during the evenings world wide and that game has been out for years and probably not at it's peak right now.
Good luck with your tradewars game.
The "big deal", Kid, is that 23k (the new record by the way) is the most people in the world EVER on a single server. The next biggest is just half that size.
Why would eve have more die hard fans than any other game? Oh wait.. could it be because it is better?
You gave up because you were bad at the game. If you are good, you cant get bored.
Originally posted by Lardarz Until you've played it, stop slagging Eve off and go back into your grubby little wizardy holes
I've played it and asside from the character creation it's dull, boring and not in the least bit entertaining.
What does suprise me though is all the EvE nerds that come here and tell us how great it is and inflate the rankings of the crappy game.
22k people online is a big deal? DAoC has like 45k during the evenings world wide and that game has been out for years and probably not at it's peak right now.
Good luck with your tradewars game.
As the above poster has said. Eve has 23k in one universe where as DAoC has 17k on-line now across 18 servers and 5 clusters to between 1500 and 3000 players.
We like Eve and you don't, I have played them all and the one I always go back to for more is Eve. It is a game where you make it what you want to, not the other way around. If you can't find something to do in Eve, one is probably not looking hard enough, in my opinion.
There is a reason why CCP won best company, they are. If you have played as many MMO's as me you would agree. It does currently have the best PvP. Can't argue that.
And even though they only have 75,000 total subscribers they still won compared to WoW's 5 million. That's 66 WoW players to every 1 EVE player. Yet EVE still won. Why? It is the better game. I actually have more time played in WoW but I still greatly prefer EVE. It's the deepest MMO out there.
I give up wasting time talking to Eve-Online fans. You tell them you find the game boring. They reply with "oh it's because you didn't try hard enough". Should you have to go looking for fun everytime you log on? You tell them you didn't like the game. "oh it's because the game is too complicated for you" Though the person who dislikes the game makes no comment on difficulty. You'll hear the same carbon copy replies from every Eve-Online fan when he defends his/her game. Just scroll up and read some of the replies.
No one is disputing whether or not 'YOU' like the game. Yet you all seem to have a hard time accepting that most of 'US' don't like it. So i'm done with this thread. We'll just agree to disagree. This is my last comment on this thread.
Side Note: I apologize to the MMORPG.com staff. Seems comments by me and a few others. Have de-railed this topic. Which is supposed to be about the Readers Choice Awards. Just like to say thanks again for your continued contributions to the MMORPG Community as a whole. Best free MMORPG related site on the net hands down.
In War - Victory. In Peace - Vigilance. In Death - Sacrifice.
Congrats to CCP and all Eve online player comunity.
After playing several ( almost all ) MMORPGs that went live since 1990, Eve was ( and is ) the only one i dont get tired of after 1 year of playing it. What more can i say.. bloody awesome game.
Too adictive.. thats one of the problems of Eve online
Where else can you fly around shooting lasers, missiles, rockets, smartbombs, and energy sucking Nosferatus but EVE!!!
Where else can you be in a corporation and fight other corporations for the rights to solar systems that the game recognizes as your corporations solar system and all eve players see it as your corps solar system.
Where else are single Blueprints given out to players to be the sole providers of the most wanted items in the game!
Where else can you warp back and forth between 5000+ real solar systems where it is possible to visit ever small area of space in the solar system(Although it would take decades IRL to fly from one planet to another planet in a single solar system on impulse or even microwarp drives)!!!
Where else can you shoot GALLENTE!!!!! WOOT CALDARI 4TW!!!
Where else can you get paid for yelling YARRR!!! and destroying other corporations because your a mercenary in a mercenary corporation!!!
Where else can you Fly ships that are as large as space stations(although this is now only possible in the most recent expansion and nobody has any yet)!!!!!
Where else can you slice your enemy's pod wide open and watch all the blue goo and corpse come floating out?!!?!?!?
Where else do you have the main Developer(Oveur) Yelling out "Cuz I'm EXTREEEEEEEM!!!!!!!"
lol all the dissing eve , well let me tell you all something.
Im not suprised Eve won so many categories, If you took the gameplay, playstyles and dynamics from eve and transposed them into say, a fantasy hack and slash type setting, you know what youd get ? that right, UO pre trammel, the first and the very best online game ever hands down .
Course Eve is different , but its all there, good guys, bad guys, safe areas, free for all outlying areas, your not forced into a profession, but you become WHATEVER you want to be.
Intersting to note, 95% of ALL the people I have come to know in eve, are exactly like me, people that have played and excelled at every online game out there for the past 10+ years, from pre-trammel UO, to daoc, eq, AC, shadowbane , swg, ect, that have goten tired of the whines, the nerfing in the name of big buisness to attract stupid people to the game actions.
I personally grew tired of the easymode existance in online games, 1-50 lvl daoc in a week, 1-23 lvl in 10 days on WoW on the trial account. you want easy , play those games. you want somethingn that always tests you, play eve.
name me 1 game that would let a 1 month old char have a chance to beat a 1 year old char in a fight
eve
like it, or not, eve is the most challenging game out there atm. the problem with alot of people that dont like eve , is that they are so darn used to easymode nowdays, ie: everything is laid out in front of you, the way is pointed out, you never have to use the thing on your shoulders. eve is a thinkin persons game, and I personally laugh at anyone who tries to tell me otherwise.
Originally posted by remyburke It's no suprise to me that EVE cleaned up like it did. MMORPG.COM is the official home of EVE fanboys everywhere. I mean, they need something to do while endlessly AFK auto-jumping through space...
Heh - this from the troll with nearly 1200 posts.
Suck it up man, EvE won awards cos it got most votes.
The fact that EVE won best graphics just shows it was a popularity contest, nothing more...and since this is the home of the eve fanboi, it was pretty much a forgone result...polygon count, anyone?
It is like saying night driver from the 70's has better graphics than mortal kombat because the little pylons are well designed.
I was surprised by most anticipated tho...DDO is currently getting trashed in these parts.
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Not giving the best graphics to EQ2 just show some huge flaws behind peoples logics. Fanboi to the extreme! LOL. A community that keep claiming they are mature, not kids...yet they bluntly state EVE is the best for graphics? I dunno, those choices kinda lose all their credibility over this point for me. Especially that...it is not even close...it show a clear majority thinking EVE is #1, than WoW? LOL, presponderous! Talk about a complete lack of maturity for a community! Often peoples state what they lack the most as their quality. EQ vent a lot about soloing. EVE vent a lot about a mature community. Now about graphics...LOL.
There is no way EVE graphics are even in the same category...but well...if someone say that Poopy from GU Comics is the best draw Woody made, he have a right to.
But EQ2 graphics are simply outstanding.
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
Am I the only one who realizes that it's not about how many subscribers the game has?
I'm not a huge EVE fan as I play a lot of other games, but I have to agree with the results. CCP has become one of the greatest independent developers on earth - and their game EVE Online shows why. The game isn't for those with short attention spans. The games complexity casts a shadow that could cover the entire world of Azeroth.
I for one congratulate CCP and their awards because they certainly earned it.
Yes because we all know putting a ship on auto pilot and going to the store while it travels 40 minutes is actually playing a mmorpg.
WoW graphics have a style, but they are by no means the same quality. WoW lack the very tools to compete. Yes, they are nice, yes they have a style, but they doesn't even have the tools to compete. Saying anyone won beside EQ2 is like saying someone using 4 colors has the best graphics. Considering that EQ2 graphics are extremely nices and that they use FAR superior technology and tools and mucho work (Kudos SoE), well, they eliminate all competition.
Someone saying otherwise is blinded. Yes, I have some friends who are great artists, they make wonderful stuff, but they won't claim that what they do is nicer when they doesn't even have the tools.
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
Yeah, but when they say better graphics in reference to WoW. They aren't talking about texture quality or the overall graphics engine itself. They are talking about the art style itself. EQ2 by far has the best looking graphics of any game currently out. Because the graphics engine itself is very robust and can do many things. Good graphics though is more then just a great engine. It's also art style. You can have the prettiest textures in the world, but if concept behind the world has no flare. Well then that shiny new graphics engine is pretty useless.
I agree with the guy though. Saying Eve-Online has the best graphcis is just plain laughable. Hence why it is one of the reasons that I am disappointed by this poll. Winning 4 catergories? Come on, lets be real now. If the poll was accurate no game would have even won two catergories.
In War - Victory.
In Peace - Vigilance.
In Death - Sacrifice.
Well i played most of the mmorpgs outhere, and i got to say EVE is one of the best now, besides Asheron's Call which still is a great very old mmorpg, the complexity, the non grind, the graphics, the pvp, and the player market driven universe in EVE won.
EVE is a good game, but is not a perfect game. Bugs do exists, some game design mistakes are in, but overall is the best game on the market, if u like complex, nice mmorpgs.
One of the best things i love about this game, is that i dont have to grind like u guys do in WOW, Lineage and so on. If i dont play month my skill will train anyway( the one i choose to train), and also the market is controlled by the players, the crafting(manufacturing system is great) on comparison with the other games.
Also there is one server( ONE SERVER) with 17-23k ppl on it.
WOW has the largest player data base because is newb mmorpg, most of the players there are at their first mmorpg, which is okie i guess to start with. Before WOW i played other mmorpgs, so i couldnt resist more then 2 weeks.
Cheers to all winners.
Originally posted by sleepyguyftl
Yes because we all know putting a ship on auto pilot and going to the store while it travels 40 minutes is actually playing a mmorpg.
Or you could spend an hour or two making instajump bookmarks (or five minutes getting a copied set from another player) and only take 5-10 minutes to travel the same distance the rest of the time you play EVE.
This is another instance where preparation and forethought are important to gameplay, and the reason why EVE tends to weed out the less mature - or, at least, less patient - players
I'll reiterate what many have said before: EVE's depth and complexity help make it the great game it is, though by its very nature it isn't for everyone. CCP set out to appeal to a certain customer type and have done so with excellence.
As for the graphics, despite the fact that it's an older game the graphics still blow me away. For proof, check the link that was previously posted to the official game trailer - all of those graphics are from gameplay capture footage. In addition, there are some wicked player-made videos, such as:
http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=194057
and
http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=220399
And, as previously stated, CCP is constantly updating EVE's graphics (and rumor has it they will be updating some of the older ship models Soon).
This attention to detail goes hand-in-hand with CCP's excellent level of interaction with their customer base - for example, I've had the lead developer, Oveur, personally respond to one of my posts in a forum thread before.
As for the PvP side, nothing else compares. I've played other MMOs that involve PvP, and also first person shooters such as Battlefield 1942, Unreal Tournament 2004, etc., and nothing else gives you the same level of adrenaline rush short of risking your neck doing something stupid IRL, like jumping out of an airplane, bungee jumping, etc.
The reason for this is simple: as others have stated, losses matter in EVE. When you lose a ship, it's gone, period, and you have to spend time carebearing to replace it. Also, tactics and strategy matter greatly.
To start, you need to choose the right ship type for the job at hand, then you have to fit the right equipment. Following this, pre-engagement maneuvers are vital - in addition to bringing your opponent(s) to action in the first place, it is imperative that you do so in a manner that favors your side. Then the real fun begins - the actual fight, where tactics matter, whether you're flying solo or alongside a fleet of hundreds of your closest friends (yes, EVE does have fleet fights that involve upwards of 100 people, sometimes upwards of 200...on each side).
Anyway, to put it bluntly, all of these facets combine to make EVE second-to-none as a MMO, IMO.
-Wrayeth
"Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
I have to agree with Roin on this. Overall it's pretty disappointing.
It could only be worse if UO was on the ticket and there were tons of UO fanboys here just voting UO best in every category just because they think the game is the next messiah. I usually don't post around here because it just seems that everytime someone says something about a game, some EVE cultist pops up about how EVE is totally on this surreal level of play and that waiting for your skills to level via time is some great idea and if you don't get it, you must be 3 years old.
-doro
right.....
FYI there was ONE thread with the link to the awards thing.. people who like the game voted. Im sure if people didnt like the game, they would not vote. You are very bitter ;
Play eve, talk to the community and maybe you will understand that that would be a rather idiotic thing to do, not to emntion a huge waste of time.
For those of you that have not yet played eve, i suggest you at east try it .. it sucked me in, even though i promised myself i would never pay for any online game .. oh well it was worth it
Yeah, but when they say better graphics in reference to WoW. They aren't talking about texture quality or the overall graphics engine itself. They are talking about the art style itself. EQ2 by far has the best looking graphics of any game currently out. Because the graphics engine itself is very robust and can do many things. Good graphics though is more then just a great engine. It's also art style. You can have the prettiest textures in the world, but if concept behind the world has no flare. Well then that shiny new graphics engine is pretty useless.
I agree with the guy though. Saying Eve-Online has the best graphcis is just plain laughable. Hence why it is one of the reasons that I am disappointed by this poll. Winning 4 catergories? Come on, lets be real now. If the poll was accurate no game would have even won two catergories.
have you even seen some of the eve videos? im beginning to doubt youve played this game at all ..
The graphics in WoW are good due to the art, granted, but IMO nothing compares to the "real" graphics of eve.. with cartoon graphics you are just tking the easy way out. Yes it can be impressive but...
Well EVE players, fan boys or just players, when u bash the game, because u played 2 days, or have no idea, the wont come like WOW players or other "games" outhere, and say "OMG DSJHF U SUXOR". EVE cultists are mature, and they will come to you gently, explain what they like and what not, why is better, why is worse etc.. You should try sometimes, maybe ppl will understand you. Ill stop now to post, i dont like to argue with ppl that have no idea what they are talking about, is like me arguing with a lvl 60 WOW player which instance is the best, when i have no idea....
So u go guys bash EVE, but the truth it seems based on the votes, that is the best game on the market, tho is pretty easy these days with the craps are available now, or ok games managed very badly( see Lineage 2- large population of farmers, bots user, etc).
EvE is all about the people. Nobody could give a damn what quest or what item you have. The citizens of the EvE galaxy are what makes the game so insane. So its not suprising that the people who are all united even if in hate, all vote together. Our game rocks
This is where your lack of experience with EVE shows - you don't have to have played for years to kick some ass in EVE. Even a two week old noob in a frigate can take out another player with proper preparation and tactics - it's happened on more than one occasion.
It's all about catching your enemy unprepared and in the wrong ship type to deal with what you throw at them - for instance, taking your tech 1 frigate up against a battleship at the outset might not be the smartest move, unless that battleship happens to be fitted for mining and not combat (or unless you have five or six friends with you, even if they're just in frigs). In contrast, if you get in close to a long-range cruiser with your little frigate, the cruiser's long-range guns won't be able to hit you and all he'll be able to do is sit there and watch his ship slowly die as you orbit and shoot him from point blank, your warp scrambler active to prevent him from getting away.
Seriously, there have been hundreds of threads on the "Crime and Punishment" section of the EVE forums about how a new player set out to be a pirate and ransomed (or killed) someone who's been playing for years with his three-week old character.
New players can also be effective in larger groups. Say you're taking a gang of ten battleships out to engage an enemy gate-camp. The battleships' long lock times and poor maneuverability means they may not get in range or lock targets soon enough to prevent them from getting away. This is where you, the new player can truly shine: you take your frigate, fit with a microwarp drive so you can attain ridiculously high velocities, and immediately approach, lock up, and warp scramble the target(s) while the larger ships are still getting a lock. By doing this, you will have made the entire endeavor possible by holding the enemy in place so your gang can smash them.
So, again, unlike other MMOs, where a low level character is pretty much useless, a character who's been around for just a few weeks can be effective.
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I've played it and asside from the character creation it's dull, boring and not in the least bit entertaining.
What does suprise me though is all the EvE nerds that come here and tell us how great it is and inflate the rankings of the crappy game.
22k people online is a big deal? DAoC has like 45k during the evenings world wide and that game has been out for years and probably not at it's peak right now.
Good luck with your tradewars game.
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I've played it and asside from the character creation it's dull, boring and not in the least bit entertaining.
What does suprise me though is all the EvE nerds that come here and tell us how great it is and inflate the rankings of the crappy game.
22k people online is a big deal? DAoC has like 45k during the evenings world wide and that game has been out for years and probably not at it's peak right now.
Good luck with your tradewars game.
The "big deal", Kid, is that 23k (the new record by the way) is the most people in the world EVER on a single server. The next biggest is just half that size.
Why would eve have more die hard fans than any other game? Oh wait.. could it be because it is better?
You gave up because you were bad at the game. If you are good, you cant get bored.
I've played it and asside from the character creation it's dull, boring and not in the least bit entertaining.
What does suprise me though is all the EvE nerds that come here and tell us how great it is and inflate the rankings of the crappy game.
22k people online is a big deal? DAoC has like 45k during the evenings world wide and that game has been out for years and probably not at it's peak right now.
Good luck with your tradewars game.
As the above poster has said. Eve has 23k in one universe where as DAoC has 17k on-line now across 18 servers and 5 clusters to between 1500 and 3000 players.
We like Eve and you don't, I have played them all and the one I always go back to for more is Eve. It is a game where you make it what you want to, not the other way around. If you can't find something to do in Eve, one is probably not looking hard enough, in my opinion.
There is a reason why CCP won best company, they are. If you have played as many MMO's as me you would agree.
It does currently have the best PvP. Can't argue that.
And even though they only have 75,000 total subscribers they still won compared to WoW's 5 million. That's 66 WoW players to every 1 EVE player. Yet EVE still won. Why? It is the better game. I actually have more time played in WoW but I still greatly prefer EVE. It's the deepest MMO out there.
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I give up wasting time talking to Eve-Online fans. You tell them you find the game boring. They reply with "oh it's because you didn't try hard enough". Should you have to go looking for fun everytime you log on? You tell them you didn't like the game. "oh it's because the game is too complicated for you" Though the person who dislikes the game makes no comment on difficulty. You'll hear the same carbon copy replies from every Eve-Online fan when he defends his/her game. Just scroll up and read some of the replies.
No one is disputing whether or not 'YOU' like the game. Yet you all seem to have a hard time accepting that most of 'US' don't like it. So i'm done with this thread. We'll just agree to disagree. This is my last comment on this thread.
Side Note: I apologize to the MMORPG.com staff. Seems comments by me and a few others. Have de-railed this topic. Which is supposed to be about the Readers Choice Awards. Just like to say thanks again for your continued contributions to the MMORPG Community as a whole. Best free MMORPG related site on the net hands down.
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It's no suprise to me that EVE cleaned up like it did. MMORPG.COM is the official home of EVE fanboys everywhere.
I mean, they need something to do while endlessly AFK auto-jumping through space...
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Congrats to CCP and all Eve online player comunity.
After playing several ( almost all ) MMORPGs that went live since 1990, Eve was ( and is ) the only one i dont get tired of after 1 year of playing it. What more can i say.. bloody awesome game.
Too adictive.. thats one of the problems of Eve online
EVE 4TW!!!
Where else can you fly around shooting lasers, missiles, rockets, smartbombs, and energy sucking Nosferatus but EVE!!!
Where else can you be in a corporation and fight other corporations for the rights to solar systems that the game recognizes as your corporations solar system and all eve players see it as your corps solar system.
Where else are single Blueprints given out to players to be the sole providers of the most wanted items in the game!
Where else can you warp back and forth between 5000+ real solar systems where it is possible to visit ever small area of space in the solar system(Although it would take decades IRL to fly from one planet to another planet in a single solar system on impulse or even microwarp drives)!!!
Where else can you shoot GALLENTE!!!!! WOOT CALDARI 4TW!!!
Where else can you get paid for yelling YARRR!!! and destroying other corporations because your a mercenary in a mercenary corporation!!!
Where else can you Fly ships that are as large as space stations(although this is now only possible in the most recent expansion and nobody has any yet)!!!!!
Where else can you slice your enemy's pod wide open and watch all the blue goo and corpse come floating out?!!?!?!?
Where else do you have the main Developer(Oveur) Yelling out "Cuz I'm EXTREEEEEEEM!!!!!!!"
Where else can you effect everyone in the game??
I tell you now, EVE takes it all and more...
So err, CCP? Wheres my Imperial Apocalypse?
lol all the dissing eve , well let me tell you all something.
Im not suprised Eve won so many categories, If you took the gameplay, playstyles and dynamics from eve and transposed them into say, a fantasy hack and slash type setting, you know what youd get ? that right, UO pre trammel, the first and the very best online game ever hands down .
Course Eve is different , but its all there, good guys, bad guys, safe areas, free for all outlying areas, your not forced into a profession, but you become WHATEVER you want to be.
Intersting to note, 95% of ALL the people I have come to know in eve, are exactly like me, people that have played and excelled at every online game out there for the past 10+ years, from pre-trammel UO, to daoc, eq, AC, shadowbane , swg, ect, that have goten tired of the whines, the nerfing in the name of big buisness to attract stupid people to the game actions.
I personally grew tired of the easymode existance in online games, 1-50 lvl daoc in a week, 1-23 lvl in 10 days on WoW on the trial account. you want easy , play those games. you want somethingn that always tests you, play eve.
name me 1 game that would let a 1 month old char have a chance to beat a 1 year old char in a fight
eve
like it, or not, eve is the most challenging game out there atm. the problem with alot of people that dont like eve , is that they are so darn used to easymode nowdays, ie: everything is laid out in front of you, the way is pointed out, you never have to use the thing on your shoulders. eve is a thinkin persons game, and I personally laugh at anyone who tries to tell me otherwise.
over 20 years of mmorpg's and counting...
Suck it up man, EvE won awards cos it got most votes.
The fact that EVE won best graphics just shows it was a popularity contest, nothing more...and since this is the home of the eve fanboi, it was pretty much a forgone result...polygon count, anyone?
It is like saying night driver from the 70's has better graphics than mortal kombat because the little pylons are well designed.
I was surprised by most anticipated tho...DDO is currently getting trashed in these parts.