Um, if they started finding these WMDs around 2003, wouldn't they have said so? It would have saved them a world of embarrassment. Thats exactly what I was about to say. I really don't understand this news report, i had a quick hunt on google for news reports on the status of WMDs in Iraq and they all say "NO WMDs" up till last month
we all know who owns fox"news" and his relationship with bush, we also know fox"news" has started selling products as a news story (skin creams) i no longer belive that fox "news" (yea i know im just driving home the point) can be trusted to give a balanced view on current events seems its all twisted into making you think something or buy something try this news scource
Originally posted by Anageth Originally posted by Vercades http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200499,00.html Um, if they started finding these WMDs around 2003, wouldn't they have said so? It would have saved them a world of embarrassment.
They did, it was just grossly under reported.
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Originally posted by viadi Originally posted by Vercades http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200499,00.html we all know who owns fox"news" and his relationship with bush, we also know fox"news" has started selling products as a news story (skin creams) i no longer belive that fox "news" (yea i know im just driving home the point) can be trusted to give a balanced view on current events seems its all twisted into making you think something or buy something try this news scource
Ah yes ofcourse, an entire corporation just putting out completely false information as a favor for a buddy...
How obvious, your insight is astounding.
- Scaris
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My sources have informed me America has over 2000 nuclear bombs, also they invented pretty much all the chemical and biological weapons known to man, someone should really stop them if you ask me.
Originally posted by viadi Originally posted by Vercades http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200499,00.html we all know who owns fox"news" and his relationship with bush, we also know fox"news" has started selling products as a news story (skin creams) i no longer belive that fox "news" (yea i know im just driving home the point) can be trusted to give a balanced view on current events seems its all twisted into making you think something or buy something try this news scource
Ah yes ofcourse, an entire corporation just putting out completely false information as a favor for a buddy...
How obvious, your insight is astounding.
i never said all news from there was false I emplyed it was bias as for the WMD its bullsh!t seems no other news corp is saying this and it seems as your midterms are up and comming bush might have some swing his way in the polls by "finding" WMD but thats only my opinion if you belive WMD has been found google it and post a new link
Originally posted by Necran My sources have informed me America has over 2000 nuclear bombs, also they invented pretty much all the chemical and biological weapons known to man, someone should really stop them if you ask me.
My sources tells me that USA has about 5700 active nuclear warheads. They probably also have the whole array of chemical and biological weapons for "testing" purposes.
Before the war Iraq was said to contain massive amounts of WMD's. Now they have found 500 since 2003. That isn't very much if you ask me. Most of it is minor things, like shells that can be filled with gas and so on. Alot is also remains from the gulf war. Not much of a threat to the world peace I would say.
viadi. I don't think it's bullshit. It was on the radio over here. But I think it's being "blown up" to justifie the Iraq war.
Um, if they started finding these WMDs around 2003, wouldn't they have said so? It would have saved them a world of embarrassment. I have heard multiple reports that the military has been finding WMD's of this sort since then. It just didn;t seem to make it to the media.
Originally posted by viadi Originally posted by Vercades http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200499,00.html we all know who owns fox"news" and his relationship with bush, we also know fox"news" has started selling products as a news story (skin creams) i no longer belive that fox "news" (yea i know im just driving home the point) can be trusted to give a balanced view on current events seems its all twisted into making you think something or buy something try this news scource
Ah yes ofcourse, an entire corporation just putting out completely false information as a favor for a buddy...
How obvious, your insight is astounding.
If you're trying to defend Fox News, no, I won't even try to make my point if that's the case.
Originally posted by Phoenixs Originally posted by Necran My sources have informed me America has over 2000 nuclear bombs, also they invented pretty much all the chemical and biological weapons known to man, someone should really stop them if you ask me.
My sources tells me that USA has about 5700 active nuclear warheads. They probably also have the whole array of chemical and biological weapons for "testing" purposes.
Before the war Iraq was said to contain massive amounts of WMD's. Now they have found 500 since 2003. That isn't very much if you ask me. Most of it is minor things, like shells that can be filled with gas and so on. Alot is also remains from the gulf war. Not much of a threat to the world peace I would say.
viadi. I don't think it's bullshit. It was on the radio over here. But I think it's being "blown up" to justifie the Iraq war.
You are correct in that we have not found the 'massive' stockpiles, which I believe is the primary reason the admin hasn't bothered to push the story. Hussein spent years pumping up the whole WMD program they had, trying to keep the other nations in the region in fear. That is why the intelligence organizations of the world believed he had the weapons to begin with/. Hussein made big mistakes by doing this... he also made a mistake thinking he could prevent the war through the oil for food scandal, bribing other nations to oppose it. Had he not done these things, perhaps he would still be free to murder and torture his people with impunity as leader of Iraq today.
Originally posted by Phoenixs Originally posted by Necran My sources have informed me America has over 2000 nuclear bombs, also they invented pretty much all the chemical and biological weapons known to man, someone should really stop them if you ask me.
My sources tells me that USA has about 5700 active nuclear warheads. They probably also have the whole array of chemical and biological weapons for "testing" purposes.
Before the war Iraq was said to contain massive amounts of WMD's. Now they have found 500 since 2003. That isn't very much if you ask me. Most of it is minor things, like shells that can be filled with gas and so on. Alot is also remains from the gulf war. Not much of a threat to the world peace I would say.
viadi. I don't think it's bullshit. It was on the radio over here. But I think it's being "blown up" to justifie the Iraq war.
its is bull i have a plastic lunch box down stairs i could fill that with anthrax (thats not a threat id never do that) so by your goverments way of thinkning that could be an WMD fact is having a warhead that could be used as a WMD and a full WMD is 2 diffent things alltogether beside that west sold him thouse warheads so they never "found" anything
Originally posted by Necran My sources have informed me America has over 2000 nuclear bombs, also they invented pretty much all the chemical and biological weapons known to man, someone should really stop them if you ask me.
Not so, they are relative new comers to WMD. We invented all the good stuff.
P.S. Fox news is clutching at straws. We really did bomb all those weddings. Let our dogs shag people, drive tanks through peoples gardens, massacre tens of thousands, completely destroy an entire countries system of law and order and shoot up a load of children on a false perspective. It's not the first time, and it won't be the last.
Also when a country has over 2000 nuclear bombs you shouldn't try and stop them. That would be a mistake.
Originally posted by Necran My sources have informed me America has over 2000 nuclear bombs, also they invented pretty much all the chemical and biological weapons known to man, someone should really stop them if you ask me.
I think we should use them on Canada.
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Fox News correspondent Bob "Smitty" from Baghdad tells us that they have found a huge stockpile of WMD in the now safe and stable country of Iraq.
Bob said from Baghdad, "These evil weapons of mass destruction are right where the great President Bush told us they would be before going into the war and are exactly the same weapons Secretary of State Colin Powell said would be found in his presentatin to the U.N. to promote the invasion of Iraq. So this war is now justified. So everyone just shut up and go back to your homes."
Originally posted by Phoenixs Originally posted by Necran My sources have informed me America has over 2000 nuclear bombs, also they invented pretty much all the chemical and biological weapons known to man, someone should really stop them if you ask me.
My sources tells me that USA has about 5700 active nuclear warheads. They probably also have the whole array of chemical and biological weapons for "testing" purposes.
Before the war Iraq was said to contain massive amounts of WMD's. Now they have found 500 since 2003. That isn't very much if you ask me. Most of it is minor things, like shells that can be filled with gas and so on. Alot is also remains from the gulf war. Not much of a threat to the world peace I would say.
viadi. I don't think it's bullshit. It was on the radio over here. But I think it's being "blown up" to justifie the Iraq war.
LOL this is a big Sham... In the report it says that these "WMD"s are DEGRADED... I read the declassified report.. Turns out that these "WMD"s were pre-Gulf war munitions and now their potency has been lost... although they could still be dangerous.
LOL... this didn't get widespread news coverage because it's stupid.
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Smoking gun proof that the man was not, and had no plans to cooperate with the UN inspections team. These were hidden purposefully. Say what you will about the amout (so far), or the degradation, Saddam was absolutely required to turn this stuff over to the UN, not hide it. Makes one wonder what he did with other stockpiles that various intel agencies, the UN, claimed he had. Were they buried? Have any been sold? Accidently discovered anywhere?
What do you think the U.N. would find if they did an inspection of the USA?
you think america would hide some of their technology/weapons?
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Why would we? Did we invade Kuwait unprovoked and then sign an agreement with the UN to end the war? Saddam had to sign an argeement with the UN to maintain his power and stop the war coming down around his ears. That agreement promised complete access to all relevant document, equipment, facilities, and the handing over of all stockpiles. We already knew he had lied to and delayed UN inspectors multiple times. We know that UN inspectors were at various times prevented from doing their inspections at all. And, we know that UN inspectors were kicked out of the country. We now know saddam had reinstated missle programs he was barred from, obtained dual use technology he wasn't supposed to be getting, and purposefully hid chemical muntitions. We know he conspired with corporations of certain nations, that sat on the UN security council, for oil kickbacks under the oil for food program. HE absolutely and repeatedly spat on the the agreed to cease-fire.
This story and argument is so retarded. If saddam had some empty tubes or whatever let the man have the tubes. I mean are they really going to reach THAT FAR to try and justify this war?
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Originally posted by lardmouth Why would we? Did we invade Kuwait unprovoked and then sign an agreement with the UN to end the war? Saddam had to sign an argeement with the UN to maintain his power and stop the war coming down around his ears. That agreement promised complete access to all relevant document, equipment, facilities, and the handing over of all stockpiles. We already knew he had lied to and delayed UN inspectors multiple times. We know that UN inspectors were at various times prevented from doing their inspections at all. And, we know that UN inspectors were kicked out of the country. We now know saddam had reinstated missle programs he was barred from, obtained dual use technology he wasn't supposed to be getting, and purposefully hid chemical muntitions. We know he conspired with corporations of certain nations, that sat on the UN security council, for oil kickbacks under the oil for food program. HE absolutely and repeatedly spat on the the agreed to cease-fire.
We didn't invade Kuwait unprovoked.. But we invaded Iraq unprovoked.. We were fighting a war in a totally different country. All of a sudden... OH we need to invade Iraq because they have WMDs.... the UN disagreed. USA said screw you motha fudgers... and went in anyways.. and for what... some pre-Gulf war chemicals.
You still dont know if he was MAKING or BUYING WMDs.. all we know now is that ... the weapons.. that he HAD... ohh he still had them.... What missles? found any?
I hope you dont think that America is Sooooo upright and good that they are not corrupt and have similar ties. Just we dont know about them.
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Thats exactly what I was about to say. I really don't understand this news report, i had a quick hunt on google for news reports on the status of WMDs in Iraq and they all say "NO WMDs" up till last month
Tin Foil hats dont work.. its all a conspiracy
They did, it was just grossly under reported.
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Ah yes ofcourse, an entire corporation just putting out completely false information as a favor for a buddy...
How obvious, your insight is astounding.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Ah yes ofcourse, an entire corporation just putting out completely false information as a favor for a buddy...
How obvious, your insight is astounding.
i never said all news from there was false I emplyed it was bias as for the WMD its bullsh!t seems no other news corp is saying this and it seems as your midterms are up and comming bush might have some swing his way in the polls by "finding" WMD but thats only my opinion if you belive WMD has been found google it and post a new link
Tin Foil hats dont work.. its all a conspiracy
Before the war Iraq was said to contain massive amounts of WMD's. Now they have found 500 since 2003. That isn't very much if you ask me. Most of it is minor things, like shells that can be filled with gas and so on. Alot is also remains from the gulf war. Not much of a threat to the world peace I would say.
viadi. I don't think it's bullshit. It was on the radio over here. But I think it's being "blown up" to justifie the Iraq war.
I have heard multiple reports that the military has been finding WMD's of this sort since then. It just didn;t seem to make it to the media.
Ah yes ofcourse, an entire corporation just putting out completely false information as a favor for a buddy...
How obvious, your insight is astounding.
If you're trying to defend Fox News, no, I won't even try to make my point if that's the case.
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Before the war Iraq was said to contain massive amounts of WMD's. Now they have found 500 since 2003. That isn't very much if you ask me. Most of it is minor things, like shells that can be filled with gas and so on. Alot is also remains from the gulf war. Not much of a threat to the world peace I would say.
viadi. I don't think it's bullshit. It was on the radio over here. But I think it's being "blown up" to justifie the Iraq war.
You are correct in that we have not found the 'massive' stockpiles, which I believe is the primary reason the admin hasn't bothered to push the story. Hussein spent years pumping up the whole WMD program they had, trying to keep the other nations in the region in fear. That is why the intelligence organizations of the world believed he had the weapons to begin with/. Hussein made big mistakes by doing this... he also made a mistake thinking he could prevent the war through the oil for food scandal, bribing other nations to oppose it. Had he not done these things, perhaps he would still be free to murder and torture his people with impunity as leader of Iraq today.
Before the war Iraq was said to contain massive amounts of WMD's. Now they have found 500 since 2003. That isn't very much if you ask me. Most of it is minor things, like shells that can be filled with gas and so on. Alot is also remains from the gulf war. Not much of a threat to the world peace I would say.
viadi. I don't think it's bullshit. It was on the radio over here. But I think it's being "blown up" to justifie the Iraq war.
its is bull i have a plastic lunch box down stairs i could fill that with anthrax (thats not a threat id never do that) so by your goverments way of thinkning that could be an WMD fact is having a warhead that could be used as a WMD and a full WMD is 2 diffent things alltogether beside that west sold him thouse warheads so they never "found" anything
Tin Foil hats dont work.. its all a conspiracy
Not so, they are relative new comers to WMD. We invented all the good stuff.
P.S. Fox news is clutching at straws. We really did bomb all those weddings. Let our dogs shag people, drive tanks through peoples gardens, massacre tens of thousands, completely destroy an entire countries system of law and order and shoot up a load of children on a false perspective. It's not the first time, and it won't be the last.
Also when a country has over 2000 nuclear bombs you shouldn't try and stop them. That would be a mistake.
isn't it just an obvious lie? Fox news? what is fox news? just a source of lies, that's it.
what WMDs? first they didn't find, then they didn't find, then they didn't find, and now they finally found? what a simple lie.
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Fox News correspondent Bob "Smitty" from Baghdad tells us that they have found a huge stockpile of WMD in the now safe and stable country of Iraq.
Bob said from Baghdad, "These evil weapons of mass destruction are right where the great President Bush told us they would be before going into the war and are exactly the same weapons Secretary of State Colin Powell said would be found in his presentatin to the U.N. to promote the invasion of Iraq. So this war is now justified. So everyone just shut up and go back to your homes."
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Before the war Iraq was said to contain massive amounts of WMD's. Now they have found 500 since 2003. That isn't very much if you ask me. Most of it is minor things, like shells that can be filled with gas and so on. Alot is also remains from the gulf war. Not much of a threat to the world peace I would say.
viadi. I don't think it's bullshit. It was on the radio over here. But I think it's being "blown up" to justifie the Iraq war.
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LOL this is a big Sham... In the report it says that these "WMD"s are DEGRADED... I read the declassified report.. Turns out that these "WMD"s were pre-Gulf war munitions and now their potency has been lost... although they could still be dangerous.
LOL... this didn't get widespread news coverage because it's stupid.
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you think america would hide some of their technology/weapons?
What's your Wu Name?
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You still dont know if he was MAKING or BUYING WMDs.. all we know now is that ... the weapons.. that he HAD... ohh he still had them.... What missles? found any?
I hope you dont think that America is Sooooo upright and good that they are not corrupt and have similar ties. Just we dont know about them.
What's your Wu Name?
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Methane47 --> Wu Name = Thunderous Leader
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