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WoW the best MMORPG out right now.
period
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Who are we honestly kidding? WoW is the best mmorpg todate. MMORPGS are videogames which are supposed to be fun, i have a job why would i wanna play one in a videogame. Why all your mmorpgs suck IE EQ, SWG and even UO is because the companys try to fix things that arnt even broke and wont touch the bugs or things that need to be fixed. Lets take UO for example the game had a very strong playerbase, bringing in loads of cash yet for some reason the game company EA decided to release trammel to cater to the nubs and the carebears and hippys thats what destroyed UOS playerbase and utterlly made it a more graphical runecrap.
Most mmorpgs are about the hardcore grind grind grind for example linage 2 just so i can PVP. WoW is all about fast levels but not too fast yet still makes leveling enjoyable expeccially with the revolutionary EXP from quest made questing all the more fun. WoWs graphics though some say suck i still think are very powerful, WoW proves you dont need EXTREME graphics to get 6 million players. Blizzard is also smart, the reason not many people are trying EQ is because of the computer you need to run EQ2. Blizzard made WoWs graphics so it can allow the poor man to play WoW.
WoWs PVP is getting a major overhaul in 1.12 will make this game even all the better. Is there flaws in WoW of course nothing is perfect. Take example the boring psudo EQ2 raids at level 60. Will blizzard learn from their mistakes with the burning crusade? I believe so look already medivhs tower is 10 man and firehell citadel with magtheradon is a 5 man. With many more to come WoW is the best mmorpg and to bash it is just like bashing final fantasy 7.
Most mmorpgs are about the hardcore grind grind grind for example linage 2 just so i can PVP. WoW is all about fast levels but not too fast yet still makes leveling enjoyable expeccially with the revolutionary EXP from quest made questing all the more fun. WoWs graphics though some say suck i still think are very powerful, WoW proves you dont need EXTREME graphics to get 6 million players. Blizzard is also smart, the reason not many people are trying EQ is because of the computer you need to run EQ2. Blizzard made WoWs graphics so it can allow the poor man to play WoW.
WoWs PVP is getting a major overhaul in 1.12 will make this game even all the better. Is there flaws in WoW of course nothing is perfect. Take example the boring psudo EQ2 raids at level 60. Will blizzard learn from their mistakes with the burning crusade? I believe so look already medivhs tower is 10 man and firehell citadel with magtheradon is a 5 man. With many more to come WoW is the best mmorpg and to bash it is just like bashing final fantasy 7.
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And WoW is no comparison to FFVII, FFVII is legendary it scores like in the top of best games ever or something, WoW doesn't even hit top 50 PC games.
See I thought you were ok until I realised you were just a fanboy. How do I know?
"WoWs PVP is getting a major overhaul in 1.12 will make this game even all the better."
IS GETTING? common fanboy mistake. You forget that most people dont hold onto promises (especially when they have not kept their previous promises). You can pay them 15$ a month for the hope of getting better PVP, but the people who want better pvp are already playing other games.
"expeccially with the revolutionary EXP from quest". This made me laugh aswell. Wow's quests are pathetic and should not be considered quests. People say WOW brought MMORPG's back 10 years because they managed to get away with such a peice of shit quest system.
The only thing appealing about WOW is the playerbase to me... but because you are seperated into different servers it doesn't mean anything anyway!
Also dont talk about carebears and hippies because WOW is a carebear game.
If you like WOW then play WOW, because their community sucks and id rather keep all the turds playing WOW away from the other games.
If WoW isnt the best then what is? Dark age of camolot with its 2k playerbase? Anarchy online with its slow gameplay? City of heros with no value or dress up like some nerd and go blasting baddys all day? PVP interaction is horrible. Or what about the sims online? Is the sims rocking the mmorpg scene?
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This is starting to sound like another Joel.
EVE Online is better. FFXI is better. When I got involved in MMORPGs for the first time a little over a year ago, I bought WoW for the PC and FFXI for the PS2. I played WoW because I hadn't run a network cable to my PS2 yet, and it definitely started to draw me in. Then I got my PS2 hooked up and started trying out FFXI, and suddenly I didn't have any time for WoW any more.
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If WoW isnt the best then what is? Dark age of camolot with its 2k playerbase? Anarchy online with its slow gameplay? City of heros with no value or dress up like some nerd and go blasting baddys all day? PVP interaction is horrible. Or what about the sims online? Is the sims rocking the mmorpg scene?
First of all, I do like WoW ok. I played it was fun for awhile. So I'm not going to slam it like others will for you. I just want to point out that there's nothing wrong with most of the games you mentioned. May not be your thing, but it doesn't make them bad game, sim aside anyway.
But one flaw with your arguement. You're claiming sales numbers reflect quality. It's true to an extent. But I have to say Britney Spears sells millions of albums, does this make her the greatest songwriter ever?
If WoW isnt the best then what is? Dark age of camolot with its 2k playerbase? Anarchy online with its slow gameplay? City of heros with no value or dress up like some nerd and go blasting baddys all day? PVP interaction is horrible. Or what about the sims online? Is the sims rocking the mmorpg scene?
First of all, I do like WoW ok. I played it was fun for awhile. So I'm not going to slam it like others will for you. I just want to point out that there's nothing wrong with most of the games you mentioned. May not be your thing, but it doesn't make them bad game, sim aside anyway.
But one flaw with your arguement. You're claiming sales numbers reflect quality. It's true to an extent. But I have to say Britney Spears sells millions of albums, does this make her the greatest songwriter ever?
No because im sure there are artist that sold ALOT more then her. The fact is that it is true that WoW is the highest selling mmorpg EVER. 6 million people cant be wrong.
I don't usually post on here and I am not taking anyones side.
You know, how do you judge an MMORPG universally to be the best out there? The only way to really do that is by subscribers... right?
If thats the case then WoW is the best MMORPG out there by a landslide.
I know how you ALL feel, I want something new and amazing and I am sick of WoW myself, but to say one game is BETTER then WoW right now would be completely and utterly your opinion. If were going by the numbers, which is really the only thing to really go by right now. THEN WOW IS THE BEST. Simple.
Most people are jealous of WoWs success and the ones who are, aren't easy to point out.
Lets all keep our opinions as opinions, and the facts as the facts, WoW has alot more subscribers then any MMO out there right now. Sure you can say, well how many of those accounts are farmers? how many of those accounts are not being played? You can say that for alot of games, guys.
But the truth is simple no matter how you want to look at it right now, WoW has the numbers, and unfortunately thats the only real way to see if a game is betetr then a game right now. Anything else would just be your opinion.
http://www.mmogchart.com/ Marketshare, guys.
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If WoW isnt the best then what is? Dark age of camolot with its 2k playerbase? Anarchy online with its slow gameplay? City of heros with no value or dress up like some nerd and go blasting baddys all day? PVP interaction is horrible. Or what about the sims online? Is the sims rocking the mmorpg scene?
First of all, I do like WoW ok. I played it was fun for awhile. So I'm not going to slam it like others will for you. I just want to point out that there's nothing wrong with most of the games you mentioned. May not be your thing, but it doesn't make them bad game, sim aside anyway.
But one flaw with your arguement. You're claiming sales numbers reflect quality. It's true to an extent. But I have to say Britney Spears sells millions of albums, does this make her the greatest songwriter ever?
No because im sure there are artist that sold ALOT more then her. The fact is that it is true that WoW is the highest selling mmorpg EVER. 6 million people cant be wrong.
I wish I were God. Because if I were, from now on whoever said that I would stick on a little island with 6 million other people who are forced to wear the same clothes, get the same hair cuts, listen to the same music, watch the same movies, and do the same things with each other everyday (including go to the bathroom to take a dump).
I mean if they're all doing it at the same time, they can't be wrong. Right?
Some of these ANALOGIES are kind of retarded... Food for example.. Wtf are you thinking?
Some people can't afford the "best" food out there.. so they goto what is quick and easy, McDonalds.
There are millions of industries out there that you can try to pull an analogy out of, however alot of them wont make sense.
In some cases games do have monthly fee's ranging from, 0-15$.. thats alittle different from a big mac at 4$ or a royal plate of blah blah blah for 40$... You can't make analogies out there like that..
In terms of MMO's, please inform me of another way to show a game is UNIVERSALLY better then one other then by the subscribers..
Period your missing the point that everyone is trying to make.
I too played WoW and I think its a good game. The best? There is no best mmo.
Just like there is no best Drummer in the world. There are greats but no best.
WoW might be pretty good to 60 but then what? Raid? bleh no thanks...thats boring. PvP-- that too gets old. THen what are you left with---crafting? That takes no time whatsoever. Making another charachter? Ok...see you in two months. Im done with wow. Had some fun while I played it. Mastered the priest and the warlock and now Im done.
For me WoW is the McDonalds of MMO's. Everyone has eaten there at one point, it appeals to most people but its not EVERYONES favorite. Just because more people eat there than the local joint doesnt make McDonalds the best.
I take offense to your comment about DAOC. For starters DAOC has some of the best pvp/RvR Period. I dont know where you got your "2000" subscribers from...try again, its alot higher. Not that it really matters cause on every server there are enough mids/albs/hibs to roll you in RvR.
Fly Away Troll-- Go back to the wow boards where everyone agrees with you.
WOW is good, don't get me wrong - and the MMOG community owes it a lot, for drawing literally millions of new players into the genre. Heck, Eve Online's population has almost tripled in the last year - in no small part from ex-WOW players looking for another cool game to try. Indie games that are coming up over the next couple of years will have a MUCH greater chance of success - because of those millions of new gamers, hungry for something else to try.
WOW did two things that were great: it attracted hordes of brand new players, and it raised the bar a notch for what SHOULD be expected of a professional MMOG release.
That said, I was starting to get bored in about two months of playing the game, and quit after four. I've played Eve for years, and keep coming back to it. Depth is something WOW is strongly lacking in.
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I do agree with the OP. World of Warcraft is currently the best MMORPG out there. World of Warcraft is FINISHED, its FUN. Azeroth is beautifull, and it was the very first mmorpg that gave me a feeling "I'm in a world". The world is full of detail, and the game is very fun to play. and that part is important, its fun.
WoW and EVE both prove that more Depth doesn't always have to mean more fun.
for the old britney spears comment. Britney spears may not be a good singer. she may not make the best music, but Britney Spears is a great Star. there are whole lot of factors when it comes to selling records that simply don't count for games.
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Alright, for starters, WoW is a good game, yes. In fact, it is one of the best short-term MMOs that has come out... ever. But that being said, it is only a short-term game. There is no challenge, no diversity, no skill involved in WoW whatsoever.
I hate to use the cliche, but WoW is carebear. Being carebear gives it a half-life of almost nothing. People will not be sitting around WoW in years to come going "Wow, nothing is better than this game" because you run out of things to do!
Games that require constant thought, consideration, and skill are what make it in the MMO world. Today Anarchy Online had its 5th anniversary. Anarchy Online is a strong game, with a strong player count, and an even stronger community behind it. Sure, there is fr00b play now, but that isn't because their player count was so low they weren't making any money, it was because they simply wanted to stretch out to the gaming community.
Why bring up AO you say? Because it is a game that has so much playability and replayability that WoW does not. In WoW, stats are useless. You can't even distribute your own stats, therefore making strategy a thing of the past. The only way to up your stats is armor, therefore making everyone go after the armor with the most stats, therefore making the entire game about getting the same armor as every other high level character of your class.
AO there are about... 40? Yeah I would say at least 40 different stats that you have to look after, and they all pertain to a different part of your character. You build your character around what YOU want to do, not what the game engine says you should put your stats into. You want to be an explorer? use maps? use vehicles? swim? run and jump fast/high? then you allocate your stats that way. You want to tank? get strength, evade close combat, whatever.
ANyways, my rant is over now. The point is, WoW is in fact a fun game, for a short while. But the game is so shallow, the only people who actually see it as challenging are the children like you who post topics like this. If you find WoW a challenging and strategic game, get a brain.
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First off WoW has zoning too. All instances require you to zone, you zone between Kalimdor and the other continent. The problem with WoW is that because their two huge zones (Kalimdor and the other) are so "large" they have to limit the number of people in them thus the LOGIN queues. It's also another reason why they probably will not have real world PVP because their game can't handle it.
As to affording WoW? It's cheaper to get into than say GW or EQ2. Why? Because those games actually have added new expansions where WoW just added 1 casual and 5-6 raid dungeons. Now before you start ranting about how great WoW is for free content just remember EQ2 has also added several casual dungeons and some raids for free also. In addition to that they've also added large expansions.
WoW has zoning, it's just they have less content as well.
The furture of PVP in WoW will be nothing but more of the same, more ladder crap that unless you play 3 months solid you won't earn decent ranks. Oh, and lovely queues! But wait they are adding cross server BGs, woot now I get to queue up even longer since there will be even MORE alliance trying to find what few horde they can to PVP with.
The future of PVE in WoW will be nothing but more of the same, more raiding and raiding and raiding till you're eyes bleed.
WoW is hardly the best and definately not innovative. If they had the majority of the developers still around from the start and not the EQ1 raid turds running things, things might be different. Unfortunately WoW is no longer a game about War, it's PVE and poor PVE at that.
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I don't even want to begin to explain how wrong you are.
The best MMORPG will be the one that every single person on the face of the earth will want to play. It doesn't matter if some people like quests or some like graphics or whatever, an MMORPG that can make them ALL want to play it and get them addicted is the best one.
So as for the best MMORPG, there is no such thing.
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Originally posted by period
WoW is the best mmorpg and to bash it is just like bashing final fantasy 7.
Do I really have to point out that Final Fantasy 7 had
no apeal to it except for the fact that the characters looked cool? The
story was so flingy you had no idea what was truely going on expect
"something bad is going on". You never got to know anything about the
characters. Though the only 2 playable characters that are recluses are
Cloud and Vincent, and you even knew more about vincent. You don't know
anything about Jenova or Sephiroth. Thats why Final Fantasy 6 and 4 are
probably still the best Final Fantasy's to date. Until maybe 12 or 13
comes out. There is much more character depth and story in those games.
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AHA! Wrong again!
FF7 was the best one.