Originally posted by Gameloading Originally posted by Blurr The funny thing is this whole thread was started as a recruitment drive for Reavo's religion. He makes a topic with a controversial title, then gives you all the propoganda on his church. Shit at the end he basically says "come join us, we're better". You know what I find interesting though, is that muslim and jew and christian will all stand side-by-side on this issue. They can fight about a million different things until the cows come home, but this view is held by all. Infact, the majority of the entire WORLD holds this view. We don't hate you, we just Think you're committing a sin.
Fixed. There is NO solid proof that your words are correct. as long as there is no proof, nothing that can back it up, the word "Know" turns into "Think".
WRONG! I KNOW what it says in my faith. I KNOW what my beliefs are. Therefore, I KNOW what a sin is. Our religions KNOW that they are committing a sin. If you are part of these religions, then you KNOW what your religion teaches you.
THINK would only apply to someone who hasn't decided whether they want to follow what their faith says.
"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000
Originally posted by LilithIshtar Originally posted by reavo Originally posted by Blurr The funny thing is this whole thread was started as a recruitment drive for Reavo's religion. He makes a topic with a controversial title, then gives you all the propoganda on his church. Shit at the end he basically says "come join us, we're better". You know what I find interesting though, is that muslim and jew and christian will all stand side-by-side on this issue. They can fight about a million different things until the cows come home, but this view is held by all. Infact, the majority of the entire WORLD holds this view. We don't hate you, we just know you're committing a sin.
No they're not. My church says they're not.
And I guess you do whatever the entire WORLD always tells you to do? I mean, they've never been wrong before, have they?
If you're religion says it's a sin and someone in your religion commits the act, then they are a sinner. But if they aren't a part of your religion, then they are following their own path. Different from yours and free from your restraints and guilt.
I agree. The religion I follow says it's perfectly fine to love someone, regardless of the gender.
People are just stupid and thick headed it seems.
And the religion I say says it's a sin to commit sodomy. I don't follow your religion, so what's your point? You'd be surprised how many people don't follow your view of what's a sin and what isn't.
"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000
Originally posted by J0kerr1 Originally posted by LilithIshtar Originally posted by oklahomaer it may not ba a sin but man its nasty
Maybe to you..But not to them. Lol
Same thing about it being a sin. Those who are good belivers of their faith follow their faith. If it is a sin to their faith it is a sin in their lives. If their faith says it isn't a sin, well, it isn't a sin. Simple. Yes but they are trying to tell us that we should follow their defenition on whether it is a sin or not. Everyone has to decide on their own whether it's a sin or not. You don't get to decide for me. I'm perfectly right in still believing you're committing a sin, whether you think so or not.
"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000
Originally posted by paade I wait for that day when people develop to a level when they wont need a fairytale to explain or guide their life.
Until that day i guess the rest of us have to keep reading these debates, which is fine, nutjobs make for a great entertainment
I feel you on that... I can't wait for parents to stop reading these "We all came from monkeys" nonsense stories to kids at bedtime... it's getting rediculus
I mean come on.. planet of the apes was like 30 years ago... get over it parents!!
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Originally posted by paade I wait for that day when people develop to a level when they wont need a fairytale to explain or guide their life.
Until that day i guess the rest of us have to keep reading these debates, which is fine, nutjobs make for a great entertainment
It will be interesting to see how people a few centuries from now will regard our society.
Hands up for those who will think it will be along the lines of "What the hell were the blind idiots thinking!"
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee. Hemingway
Originally posted by Blurr Originally posted by LilithIshtar Originally posted by reavo Originally posted by Blurr The funny thing is this whole thread was started as a recruitment drive for Reavo's religion. He makes a topic with a controversial title, then gives you all the propoganda on his church. Shit at the end he basically says "come join us, we're better". You know what I find interesting though, is that muslim and jew and christian will all stand side-by-side on this issue. They can fight about a million different things until the cows come home, but this view is held by all. Infact, the majority of the entire WORLD holds this view. We don't hate you, we just know you're committing a sin.
No they're not. My church says they're not.
And I guess you do whatever the entire WORLD always tells you to do? I mean, they've never been wrong before, have they?
If you're religion says it's a sin and someone in your religion commits the act, then they are a sinner. But if they aren't a part of your religion, then they are following their own path. Different from yours and free from your restraints and guilt.
I agree. The religion I follow says it's perfectly fine to love someone, regardless of the gender.
People are just stupid and thick headed it seems.
And the religion I say says it's a sin to commit sodomy. I don't follow your religion, so what's your point? You'd be surprised how many people don't follow your view of what's a sin and what isn't.
Originally posted by methane47 Originally posted by paade I wait for that day when people develop to a level when they wont need a fairytale to explain or guide their life.
Until that day i guess the rest of us have to keep reading these debates, which is fine, nutjobs make for a great entertainment
I feel you on that... I can't wait for parents to stop reading these "We all came from monkeys" nonsense stories to kids at bedtime... it's getting rediculus
I mean come on.. planet of the apes was like 30 years ago... get over it parents!!
Who says we came from monkeys? Answer: People who don't understand the theory of evolution.
The theory of evolution does not say we came from monkeys. So you've been believing a fairy tale I guess.
Who says we came from monkeys? Answer: People who don't understand the theory of evolution. The theory of evolution does not say we came from monkeys. So you've been believing a fairy tale I guess.
Dang you people get stuck on linguistics... What ever you consider to be the Scientific term Be it Dryopithecus or what ever else they are still considered ape-like or likened to monkies... Sorry.. If you believe in evolution.. Then you came from a monkey.
What's your Wu Name? Donovan --> Wu Name = Violent Knight Methane47 --> Wu Name = Thunderous Leader "Some people call me the walking plank, 'cuz any where you go... Death is right behind you.." <i>ME<i>
Originally posted by methane47 Originally posted by reavo
Who says we came from monkeys? Answer: People who don't understand the theory of evolution. The theory of evolution does not say we came from monkeys. So you've been believing a fairy tale I guess.
Dang you people get stuck on linguistics... What ever you consider to be the Scientific term Be it Dryopithecus or what ever else they are still considered ape-like or likened to monkies... Sorry.. If you believe in evolution.. Then you came from a monkey. We did not come from what you would consider "monkies," we evolved over 60000 years from ape like creatures, into Neanderthals and Cromagnum. We share a common ancestor with monkies, that is all. I don't unstand why people completely reject science without even thinking..
Originally posted by Xexima We did not come from what you would consider "monkies," we evolved over 60000 years from ape like creatures, into Neanderthals and Cromagnum. We share a common ancestor with monkies, that is all. I don't unstand why people completely reject science without even thinking..
I dont understand why people get stuck on Linguistics... I say Monkey.. You say.. NOOOO it wasn't monkey it was an Ape like creature... And guess what if some of you used the dictionary you would know that a Monkey is a more general term... Here is the def. from dictionary.com
Monkey: any mammal of the order Primates, including the guenons, macaques, langurs, and capuchins, but excluding humans, the anthropoid apes, and, usually, the tarsier and prosimians. Compare New World monkey, Old World monkey.
Please take note to the red text... now Back to what I was saying... If you believe in the theory of evolution Then You CAME from A MONKEY! no if ands or buts about it.
What's your Wu Name? Donovan --> Wu Name = Violent Knight Methane47 --> Wu Name = Thunderous Leader "Some people call me the walking plank, 'cuz any where you go... Death is right behind you.." <i>ME<i>
Originally posted by methane47 Originally posted by Xexima We did not come from what you would consider "monkies," we evolved over 60000 years from ape like creatures, into Neanderthals and Cromagnum. We share a common ancestor with monkies, that is all. I don't unstand why people completely reject science without even thinking..
I dont understand why people get stuck on Linguistics... I say Monkey.. You say.. NOOOO it wasn't monkey it was an Ape like creature... And guess what if some of you used the dictionary you would know that a Monkey is a more general term... Here is the def. from dictionary.com
Monkey: any mammal of the order Primates, including the guenons, macaques, langurs, and capuchins, but excluding humans, the anthropoid apes, and, usually, the tarsier and prosimians. Compare New World monkey, Old World monkey.
Please take note to the red text... now Back to what I was saying... If you believe in the theory of evolution Then You CAME from A MONKEY! no if ands or buts about it.
It's a bit more believable then appearing out of thin air...
Originally posted by methane47 Originally posted by Xexima We did not come from what you would consider "monkies," we evolved over 60000 years from ape like creatures, into Neanderthals and Cromagnum. We share a common ancestor with monkies, that is all. I don't unstand why people completely reject science without even thinking..
I dont understand why people get stuck on Linguistics... I say Monkey.. You say.. NOOOO it wasn't monkey it was an Ape like creature... And guess what if some of you used the dictionary you would know that a Monkey is a more general term... Here is the def. from dictionary.com
Monkey: any mammal of the order Primates, including the guenons, macaques, langurs, and capuchins, but excluding humans, the anthropoid apes, and, usually, the tarsier and prosimians. Compare New World monkey, Old World monkey.
Please take note to the red text... now Back to what I was saying... If you believe in the theory of evolution Then You CAME from A MONKEY! no if ands or buts about it.
HAHAHAHAH! Read that again dude, you just proved yourself wrong, it says that the term monkey DOES NOT include humans and the anthropoid apes that are our closest cousins.
And whatever the terms, so what? No matter what our origins, they have marginal bearings on who we are today. Guess what?! I came from a protoplasmic soup! And I dont give a damn!
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee. Hemingway
I think people will look back on this period as a time that people tried to rule the morales of all. The religous keep telling the gays they are wrong and save them from damnation. The gays trying to force religion to see them as right. Both show no tolerance of the other.
Still if you believe in the bible and say gays are ok, you are bad at your faith. Can't be a good christain and belive in gay and abortions. Just immpossible.
Since when are gays being intolerant? The only ones that are being intolerant are the people who tell gays that they are going to hell. All the gays want IS tolerance.
oh, and stop telling people that they are bad at their faith. You are not one to judge others faith.
HAHAHAHAH! Read that again dude, you just proved yourself wrong, it says that the term monkey DOES NOT include humans and the anthropoid apes that are our closest cousins. And whatever the terms, so what? No matter what our origins, they have marginal bearings on who we are today. Guess what?! I came from a protoplasmic soup! And I dont give a damn!
So you can't read either... Look at the definition... Monkey is a general term that includes mammals of the order of Primate... Theory of Evolution says our common ancestor was a primate Hence swallowed by the term monkey!...
AGAIN You're a monkey have a banana...
So you believe that a couple Methane molecules got electrocuted and made intelligent protein.. which then went on to make cells... I swear people believe anything they hear these days..
What's your Wu Name? Donovan --> Wu Name = Violent Knight Methane47 --> Wu Name = Thunderous Leader "Some people call me the walking plank, 'cuz any where you go... Death is right behind you.." <i>ME<i>
Originally posted by Xexima Since when are gays being intolerant? The only ones that are being intolerant are the people who tell gays that they are going to hell. All the gays want IS tolerance.
oh, and stop telling people that they are bad at their faith. You are not one to judge others faith.
So you dont think Holding a protest to the Pope last time he visited San Fran. including public acts of homosexuality and Having a mock gay marriage allong side his parade and also an exorcism...
You dont think any of that is intolerant?
How about plannning a march for homosexuality IN JERUSALEM! nooo not with arabs... It's just people from Europe and America to March Jerusalem...
And thats not intolerant of religion? Are you saying that is just what friendly banter? Gay people are people first... They are guilty of the same problems, faults, and feelings of everyone else... Why you put Gay people on this pedestal in which they DO NOOOO WRONGG... I have no idea...
What's your Wu Name? Donovan --> Wu Name = Violent Knight Methane47 --> Wu Name = Thunderous Leader "Some people call me the walking plank, 'cuz any where you go... Death is right behind you.." <i>ME<i>
Originally posted by methane47 Originally posted by Aelfinn
HAHAHAHAH! Read that again dude, you just proved yourself wrong, it says that the term monkey DOES NOT include humans and the anthropoid apes that are our closest cousins. And whatever the terms, so what? No matter what our origins, they have marginal bearings on who we are today. Guess what?! I came from a protoplasmic soup! And I dont give a damn!
So you can't read either... Look at the definition... Monkey is a general term that includes mammals of the order of Primate... Theory of Evolution says our common ancestor was a primate Hence swallowed by the term monkey!...
AGAIN You're a monkey have a banana...
So you believe that a couple Methane molecules got electrocuted and made intelligent protein.. which then went on to make cells... I swear people believe anything they hear these days..
Methane, your definition proved you wrong "but excluding humans, the anthropoid apes, and, usually, the tarsier and prosimians." means that those are excluded. Humans, anthropoid apes, and tarsiers and prosimians are not monkeys.
You are the one believing in a 2000+ year old document that has absolutely no scientific backing! Of course people believe in evolution, because it has logic and rational thought behind it.
Originally posted by methane47 Originally posted by Aelfinn
HAHAHAHAH! Read that again dude, you just proved yourself wrong, it says that the term monkey DOES NOT include humans and the anthropoid apes that are our closest cousins. And whatever the terms, so what? No matter what our origins, they have marginal bearings on who we are today. Guess what?! I came from a protoplasmic soup! And I dont give a damn!
So you can't read either... Look at the definition... Monkey is a general term that includes mammals of the order of Primate... Theory of Evolution says our common ancestor was a primate Hence swallowed by the term monkey!...
AGAIN You're a monkey have a banana...
So you believe that a couple Methane molecules got electrocuted and made intelligent protein.. which then went on to make cells... I swear people believe anything they hear these days..
Originally posted by Xexima You are the one believing in a 2000+ year old document that has absolutely no scientific backing! Of course people believe in evolution, because it has logic and rational thought behind it.
Tonnes of scientists are religious... Thats scientific backing is it not?
oh and the definition says Primates... and if you've checked The evoltionary ancester of Humans was a primate
So you're still a monkey
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WRONG! I KNOW what it says in my faith. I KNOW what my beliefs are. Therefore, I KNOW what a sin is. Our religions KNOW that they are committing a sin. If you are part of these religions, then you KNOW what your religion teaches you.
THINK would only apply to someone who hasn't decided whether they want to follow what their faith says.
"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000
No they're not. My church says they're not.
And I guess you do whatever the entire WORLD always tells you to do? I mean, they've never been wrong before, have they?
If you're religion says it's a sin and someone in your religion commits the act, then they are a sinner. But if they aren't a part of your religion, then they are following their own path. Different from yours and free from your restraints and guilt.
I agree. The religion I follow says it's perfectly fine to love someone, regardless of the gender.
People are just stupid and thick headed it seems.
And the religion I say says it's a sin to commit sodomy. I don't follow your religion, so what's your point? You'd be surprised how many people don't follow your view of what's a sin and what isn't.
"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000
Same thing about it being a sin. Those who are good belivers of their faith follow their faith. If it is a sin to their faith it is a sin in their lives. If their faith says it isn't a sin, well, it isn't a sin. Simple.
Yes but they are trying to tell us that we should follow their defenition on whether it is a sin or not. Everyone has to decide on their own whether it's a sin or not. You don't get to decide for me. I'm perfectly right in still believing you're committing a sin, whether you think so or not.
"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000
Until that day i guess the rest of us have to keep reading these debates, which is fine, nutjobs make for a great entertainment
I mean come on.. planet of the apes was like 30 years ago... get over it parents!!
What's your Wu Name?
Donovan --> Wu Name = Violent Knight
Methane47 --> Wu Name = Thunderous Leader
"Some people call me the walking plank, 'cuz any where you go... Death is right behind you.."
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It will be interesting to see how people a few centuries from now will regard our society.
Hands up for those who will think it will be along the lines of "What the hell were the blind idiots thinking!"
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
No they're not. My church says they're not.
And I guess you do whatever the entire WORLD always tells you to do? I mean, they've never been wrong before, have they?
If you're religion says it's a sin and someone in your religion commits the act, then they are a sinner. But if they aren't a part of your religion, then they are following their own path. Different from yours and free from your restraints and guilt.
I agree. The religion I follow says it's perfectly fine to love someone, regardless of the gender.
People are just stupid and thick headed it seems.
And the religion I say says it's a sin to commit sodomy. I don't follow your religion, so what's your point? You'd be surprised how many people don't follow your view of what's a sin and what isn't.
And the popular religion of the day is...
I choose freedom from guilt and intimidation.
I mean come on.. planet of the apes was like 30 years ago... get over it parents!!
Who says we came from monkeys? Answer: People who don't understand the theory of evolution.
The theory of evolution does not say we came from monkeys. So you've been believing a fairy tale I guess.
Dryopithecus or what ever else they are still considered ape-like or likened to monkies... Sorry.. If you believe in evolution.. Then you came from a monkey.
What's your Wu Name?
Donovan --> Wu Name = Violent Knight
Methane47 --> Wu Name = Thunderous Leader
"Some people call me the walking plank, 'cuz any where you go... Death is right behind you.."
<i>ME<i>
Dryopithecus or what ever else they are still considered ape-like or likened to monkies... Sorry.. If you believe in evolution.. Then you came from a monkey.
We did not come from what you would consider "monkies," we evolved over 60000 years from ape like creatures, into Neanderthals and Cromagnum. We share a common ancestor with monkies, that is all. I don't unstand why people completely reject science without even thinking..
Monkey:
any mammal of the
order Primates, including the guenons, macaques, langurs, and
capuchins, but excluding humans, the anthropoid apes, and, usually, the
tarsier and prosimians. Compare New World monkey, Old World monkey.
Please take note to the red text... now Back to what I was saying... If you believe in the theory of evolution Then You CAME from A MONKEY! no if ands or buts about it.
What's your Wu Name?
Donovan --> Wu Name = Violent Knight
Methane47 --> Wu Name = Thunderous Leader
"Some people call me the walking plank, 'cuz any where you go... Death is right behind you.."
<i>ME<i>
Monkey:
any mammal of the
order Primates, including the guenons, macaques, langurs, and
capuchins, but excluding humans, the anthropoid apes, and, usually, the
tarsier and prosimians. Compare New World monkey, Old World monkey.
Please take note to the red text... now Back to what I was saying... If you believe in the theory of evolution Then You CAME from A MONKEY! no if ands or buts about it.
It's a bit more believable then appearing out of thin air...
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Monkey:
any mammal of the order Primates, including the guenons, macaques, langurs, and capuchins, but excluding humans, the anthropoid apes, and, usually, the tarsier and prosimians. Compare New World monkey, Old World monkey.
Please take note to the red text... now Back to what I was saying... If you believe in the theory of evolution Then You CAME from A MONKEY! no if ands or buts about it.
HAHAHAHAH! Read that again dude, you just proved yourself wrong, it says that the term monkey DOES NOT include humans and the anthropoid apes that are our closest cousins.
And whatever the terms, so what? No matter what our origins, they have marginal bearings on who we are today. Guess what?! I came from a protoplasmic soup! And I dont give a damn!
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
I think people will look back on this period as a time that people tried to rule the morales of all. The religous keep telling the gays they are wrong and save them from damnation. The gays trying to force religion to see them as right. Both show no tolerance of the other.
Still if you believe in the bible and say gays are ok, you are bad at your faith. Can't be a good christain and belive in gay and abortions. Just immpossible.
oh, and stop telling people that they are bad at their faith. You are not one to judge others faith.
AGAIN You're a monkey have a banana...
So you believe that a couple Methane molecules got electrocuted and made intelligent protein.. which then went on to make cells... I swear people believe anything they hear these days..
What's your Wu Name?
Donovan --> Wu Name = Violent Knight
Methane47 --> Wu Name = Thunderous Leader
"Some people call me the walking plank, 'cuz any where you go... Death is right behind you.."
<i>ME<i>
You dont think any of that is intolerant?
How about plannning a march for homosexuality IN JERUSALEM! nooo not with arabs... It's just people from Europe and America to March Jerusalem...
And thats not intolerant of religion? Are you saying that is just what friendly banter? Gay people are people first... They are guilty of the same problems, faults, and feelings of everyone else... Why you put Gay people on this pedestal in which they DO NOOOO WRONGG... I have no idea...
What's your Wu Name?
Donovan --> Wu Name = Violent Knight
Methane47 --> Wu Name = Thunderous Leader
"Some people call me the walking plank, 'cuz any where you go... Death is right behind you.."
<i>ME<i>
AGAIN You're a monkey have a banana...
So you believe that a couple Methane molecules got electrocuted and made intelligent protein.. which then went on to make cells... I swear people believe anything they hear these days..
Methane, your definition proved you wrong "but excluding humans, the anthropoid apes, and, usually, the tarsier and prosimians." means that those are excluded. Humans, anthropoid apes, and tarsiers and prosimians are not monkeys.
You are the one believing in a 2000+ year old document that has absolutely no scientific backing! Of course people believe in evolution, because it has logic and rational thought behind it.
AGAIN You're a monkey have a banana...
So you believe that a couple Methane molecules got electrocuted and made intelligent protein.. which then went on to make cells... I swear people believe anything they hear these days..
GODDIDIT
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oh and the definition says Primates... and if you've checked The evoltionary ancester of Humans was a primate
So you're still a monkey
LOl I had to post that!! Greatest movie of all time.!!! lol
What's your Wu Name?
Donovan --> Wu Name = Violent Knight
Methane47 --> Wu Name = Thunderous Leader
"Some people call me the walking plank, 'cuz any where you go... Death is right behind you.."
<i>ME<i>