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I'm tempted to say "another uneducated non-christian" but that would be stooping to your level.
Christianity and Islam are not extentions of Judaism, they are completely different religions which have similar bases. The whole point of Christianity is that Christians no longer follow the Judaic laws. Kosher and all that. One of the main points (and the reason we call it Christianity) is that we believe Jesus did all the miracles and stuff, but he also said "Okay that Judaism stuff was great, but that's not the law anymore, here's the new laws, be good". That's why Christians can eat pork and shellfish and such.
The point that this thread is devolving into is that people are trying to say that their religion has the final say on what is and isn't a sin. The three major religious bases say it is a sin. They will still say it is a sin even if you don't belong to their faiths. That's their right as religions.
Reavo on the other hand would have you believe that those religions are just fear mongering or whatever other crap he spouts about them, and that his religion is the final word on the subject.
For a Unitarian Universalist, Reavo sure does spread alot of hate towards other religions. For shame.
"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000
I'm a proud member of the movement, I just don't feel a need to label myself with a particular group.
They have every right to believe that philsophy. But, they cannot not say they are good beleivers of their religion if their religion says something is bad and they say it is ok and good.
The bible has been interpretted in many ways through out history. Think about the Spanish Inquisition. How they killed many people that were considered "heretics" because they had a slightly different view on the bible. Would you consider them good christians? I'd hope not. So you, or no one else for that matter, have no right to say if they are good christians or bad christians because they interpret the bible differently.
God doens't make it "not happen" because he doesn't want to make a world of robots that just listens to his commands. He wants us to have our own thinking. That's it
God doens't make it "not happen" because he doesn't want to make a world of robots that just listens to his commands. He wants us to have our own thinking. That's it
So, if your religion says something is a sin (gay) and you promote it, you are promoting a sin. That makes you a bad believer.
I'm tempted to say "another uneducated non-christian" but that would be stooping to your level.
Christianity and Islam are not extentions of Judaism, they are completely different religions which have similar bases. The whole point of Christianity is that Christians no longer follow the Judaic laws. Kosher and all that. One of the main points (and the reason we call it Christianity) is that we believe Jesus did all the miracles and stuff, but he also said "Okay that Judaism stuff was great, but that's not the law anymore, here's the new laws, be good". That's why Christians can eat pork and shellfish and such.
The point that this thread is devolving into is that people are trying to say that their religion has the final say on what is and isn't a sin. The three major religious bases say it is a sin. They will still say it is a sin even if you don't belong to their faiths. That's their right as religions.
Reavo on the other hand would have you believe that those religions are just fear mongering or whatever other crap he spouts about them, and that his religion is the final word on the subject.
For a Unitarian Universalist, Reavo sure does spread alot of hate towards other religions. For shame.
Agreed
Even if you all don't agree, we will not abandon our faith
Thanks for the explanation, I suppose that makes sense.
I still don't understand why he would punish us for making the wrong choice though. I guess I have some studying to do.
Every religion has a set of rules and beliefs. If you disagree with those belifes, act against those beliefs, or encourage others to act out against those beliefts you are a bad beleiver. Its all a point of perspective on what religion you belong to, or if you shoudl form your own.
God doens't make it "not happen" because he doesn't want to make a world of robots that just listens to his commands. He wants us to have our own thinking. That's it
So, if your religion says something is a sin (gay) and you promote it, you are promoting a sin. That makes you a bad believer.
Yah, but the word bad believers..hmm....someone should correct that, it's hard to explain =__=
God doens't make it "not happen" because he doesn't want to make a world of robots that just listens to his commands. He wants us to have our own thinking. That's it
So, if your religion says something is a sin (gay) and you promote it, you are promoting a sin. That makes you a bad believer.
Yah, but the word bad believers..hmm....someone should correct that, it's hard to explain =__=
Your relgion says something is a sin. You say it is ok and promote others to say its ok. You are promoting something that your religion says is wrong. That makes you a bad beleiver.
God doesn't punish us for making the wrong choice... In Christianity, if you believe in Jesus, you will be saved. Everyone makes wrong choices, even christians, but if we learn from our mistakes and turn back to the right way, God will be delighted and we will be rewarded
You cannot just accept every religion and then consider that a religion.
You cannot just accept every religion and then consider that a religion.
You have to accept your own and obey its rules and values or go to another one.
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We (atleast, my particular church) believe that the act of homosexual sex is a decision that is made by the person. It is a sinful temptation for some, and God doesn't interfere with that.
Why doesn't God just make it not happen? That's the easiest answer ever actually. Free Will. That's one of the major parts of christianity. God says it is wrong, but he won't stop you. Christianity will tell you it is a sin, but they're not going to try to stop you if it's not involving them.
If God made you do what he said, then it would be slavery wouldn't it? That's one of the major reasons satan/lucifer/devil got kicked out of heaven. He wanted to make us worship God so that God would get all the worship, but that's not right. I mean, what's better, a woman who loves you because she really does love you, or a woman who loves you because if she doesn't you'll torture her?
"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000
Therefore Homosexuality is a sin...sometimes!
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And no one is bashing gays, they are just giving their opinion/beleifs about what they think is right or wrong. If you are so opposed to hearing others opinions you don't belong on the internet.
EDIT: and you never turned a lesbian straight. Thats what we call a bisexual.
Nope...you can't. Well, you can't if you belong to a raligion.By the logic of your last statement, God changed his own words, or the Bible is not God's words. The Bible has been changed and adapted many times, this is a known and acknowledged fact, one that nearly every religious official will agree is the truth. As for the counsel, how do you know? God wishes us to find our own paths back to him, or so we have been told. Does that path necessarily have anything to do with a religious text? Can a person not simply believe and live by christ's message? Is the bible a guide? Or simply a pale interpretation of what men cannot truly understand?
you really need to pay attention, he already said he does not have a religion
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
well your name is "freethinker" so let's do some free thinking shall we?
98% of the fossils ever found are of aquatic creatures, and many of them have been found miles and miles inland...how do you explain that? Flippin SEA SHELLS have been found on the tops of mountains. Fossilization only occurs when something is burried very rapidly...a global flood is very conducive to this. It's really not such a fantastical notion as evolutionists make it out to be. They just want so badly for people to believe in their way of thinking that they take advantage of the fact that not a lot of people know anything about Hebrew.
Once again I must stress that you cannot pick and choose what you believe in the bible, if you believe it at all.
Though this is very off topic from the whole "homosexuality is a sin" debate...any other questions? sorry but I'm not going to sift through 7 pages to try and find whether or not someone has a reasonable question.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Lol, now you're just being stupid.
Christianity follows a different set of laws (see: The Bible) than Judaism (see: The Torah), and Islam (see: The Khoran).
When Christianity started following the teachings of Jesus it was no longer Judaism. Yes they share the same bases, but they are seperate religions.
Oh and a small note: Don't call someone uneducated and then proceed to use poor grammar.
"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000
As the other poster said, it's not really that He punishes us for wrong choices. It's that He won't reward us for them. He will be disappointed in you like a father whose son directly disobeys him, but He will still love you. I believe you'll still get to go to heaven. You just won't be as rewarded as the people who chose not to sin.
Plus you can always ask for forgiveness. If you commit a sin and don't bother asking for forgiveness, it's kind of an insult isn't it?
"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000