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nuh uh
anyway..yea, i think it's time for this thread to die.
it's getting pretty pointless
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But then some gay activist will come and start saying this person and this person and this person was gay... They are like... "DID YOU know Jesus was gay... He spent all his time with men... he must have been gay" orr "Did you know Abe lincoln was gay?" or " (insert pivotal historic character) was gay" and they will swear up and down that that person was gay so it must be ok to be gay... I think i'm gonna start using that argument in my race arguments...
Hey did you know George washington was half-black?.. Did you know Ceasar was half-black?
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Does it REALLY effect you if it's a sin or if it's not a sin? If you said it DOES effect you, then you have some serious issues that need to be looked at right away.
As long as I'm not being told I have to do anything of the sort, I'm fine with you being as gay as a $3 dollar bill. So if it was up to me, I'd like everyone marry each other... why can't gays be as miserable as everyone else who's married?
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But then some gay activist will come and start saying this person and this person and this person was gay... They are like... "DID YOU know Jesus was gay... He spent all his time with men... he must have been gay" orr "Did you know Abe lincoln was gay?" or " (insert pivotal historic character) was gay" and they will swear up and down that that person was gay so it must be ok to be gay... I think i'm gonna start using that argument in my race arguments...
Hey did you know George washington was half-black?.. Did you know Ceasar was half-black?
Yeah that's a common tactic of some people (especially a couple on this board). Unfortunately it's faulty logic and they don't realize it. Labeling someone else as support for your cause in an argument is just bad form. It's like you take that one point about them which may or may not be true, and make that as their whole character. Thomas Jefferson was this or that, so what? He also did a bunch of political stuff. Alot of good political people weren't this or that, so therefore it doesn't make any difference. Plus I swear I heard someone sayd George Washington was half-black..
"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000
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NGE Refugee.
It's a figure of speech...
It's a figure of speech...
No it's not...
Queer perhaps, but not gay.
Joe picks apart some random detail in a long post and flips it on them 4tw.
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Queer perhaps, but not gay.
Joe picks apart some random detail in a long post and flips it on them 4tw.
oh.....
why don't you make like a tree and get outta here
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Queer perhaps, but not gay.
Joe picks apart some random detail in a long post and flips it on them 4tw.
oh.....
why don't you make like a tree and get outta here
Okay Biff.
Hey McFly... your shoe's untied.
So, like I said, if you're tired of hearing people perpetuate the fear mongering and preaching that you should feel guilt and shame for being created by God with your own form of love for another, then know that there are other religions that allow you the freedom to think for yourself.
You don't have to follow the path of another. Their path to spiritual growth is theirs, not yours.
It's funny reading your comments though. They show exactly what I'm trying to say. You guys are so into your authoritative religions. It really makes you angry to see someone break from them and experience the freedom you're so scared to know.
I offer you the chance to be absolutely free and you choose to remain enslaved by ancient texts.
Hate to tel everybody on this topic, but unless you are the Pope you can't tell people what is or isn't a sin. The pope says gay is a sin, so if you beleive in that religion, its a sin. If you think it is not a sin, you are part of another religion or commiting a sin.
That simples people.
No they're not. My church says they're not.
And I guess you do whatever the entire WORLD always tells you to do? I mean, they've never been wrong before, have they?
If you're religion says it's a sin and someone in your religion commits the act, then they are a sinner. But if they aren't a part of your religion, then they are following their own path. Different from yours and free from your restraints and guilt.
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No they're not. My church says they're not.
And I guess you do whatever the entire WORLD always tells you to do? I mean, they've never been wrong before, have they?
If you're religion says it's a sin and someone in your religion commits the act, then they are a sinner. But if they aren't a part of your religion, then they are following their own path. Different from yours and free from your restraints and guilt.
Woo, more flawed logic, lol.
Your church says they're not, but my church says they are. Islam says they are. Judaism says they are. Give me a reason why yours is right and ours is wrong? You can't, cause it's all belief.
Do you always do what a radical splinter group religion tells you to do? I mean, they've never been wrong before, have they? Unless you count the numerous numbers of cults that have killed their followers and stuff like that. More flawed logic.
If my religion says it's a sin, and someone commits the act, they are still a sinner whether they are part of my religion or aren't. If one guy kills another, the killer might not think he's a killer, does that mean he's blameless?
Just because you don't believe something, doesn't mean you won't be held accountable for it.
Perhaps you should read that info from the CRMA again.
"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000
A. Technically, the pope is the leader of only one doctrine of christianity. Most of the other look up to the Vatican as an inspiration of course, but still whats your explaination for the other hundred or so versions of christianity?
B. You're naming a MAN as the sole interpreter of god's will. Granted, he by all means should be more qualified than most for that purpose, but he is still a man, with all of humanity's weaknesses right along with the tendancy to make mistakes. I am not aware of any such recent behavior, and do not suspect there is any, but in the past popes have been known to exploit their position in numerous ways for their own purposes, hardly an instant qualification.
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"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000
Oh actually, by the way, we are just defending our viewpoints and religions from the 'fear mongering' that you started this thread by. You're just pissed cause you can't take your own medicine. You go around preaching how great your religion is and how bad/wrong all the others are, and now all of us are telling you how bad/wrong yours is.
You say "come be free and don't be a slave to ancient texts" and garbage like that, but it's just snake oil. You're trying to sell us your religion and it's not working. We believe what our religions teach us is true, and you can attack us for it all you want but the truth is, you can't say crap cause you have nothing to back it up with. You are just selling a 'no rules' cult where everyone gets what they want all the time.
"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000
As for Catholics, Gay is a sin. The pope says so. If you don't beleive the pope you are not a Catholic.
If you disagree with your religion get out. No one forces in it.
Oh actually, by the way, we are just defending our viewpoints and religions from the 'fear mongering' that you started this thread by. You're just pissed cause you can't take your own medicine. You go around preaching how great your religion is and how bad/wrong all the others are, and now all of us are telling you how bad/wrong yours is.
You say "come be free and don't be a slave to ancient texts" and garbage like that, but it's just snake oil. You're trying to sell us your religion and it's not working. We believe what our religions teach us is true, and you can attack us for it all you want but the truth is, you can't say crap cause you have nothing to back it up with. You are just selling a 'no rules' cult where everyone gets what they want all the time.
Finally, someone sees religion for what it is, a cult. All relgions are cults.