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Don't look at me, I don't have a clue what hes talking about. I felt you did a reasonable job of representation, although it could have born some improvement.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
Before I post about the Science in Qur'an I want to ask one question here.
What is Dark Matter?
Can anyone answer me in details please?
That depends on which science fiction book you look at, but in any case...
There is a theory, that since so many things have opposites, different poles of a magnet for example, matter itself must have an opposite as well. Such a substance is called for the moment anti-matter, or in some cases dark matter. There are many theories on the properties of antimatter, but most agree that is has the potential to be extremely dangerous if brought into contact with ordinary matter.
Once again, this is just a theory, theres nothing tangible to indicate that there is any such thing.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
What's your Wu Name?
Donovan --> Wu Name = Violent Knight
Methane47 --> Wu Name = Thunderous Leader
"Some people call me the walking plank, 'cuz any where you go... Death is right behind you.."
<i>ME<i>
Anti Matter and Dark matter are two different things... Anti matter is already being produced today.. It's really hard to make so they only recieve REALLLy small amounts of it but they are making it...
Dark Matter is related to the problem current scientists are having because of certain equations that dont nullify... Or rather when all the forces are added the system does not equal zero.. Dark matter is one theory of why that happens... It's much more complicated than that but thats a very simple way i used to explain it to myself...
What's your Wu Name?
Donovan --> Wu Name = Violent Knight
Methane47 --> Wu Name = Thunderous Leader
"Some people call me the walking plank, 'cuz any where you go... Death is right behind you.."
<i>ME<i>
For you who want to know what kind of Science the Qur'an Contains, I'll post here by numbers, What does the Qur'an say, and then post in numbers equal to the subject of what the Science say, but sadly i can't find a lot of references for the English scientific side, because i don't know all the scientific terms, so if you know something please do post it.
Notice that the Qur'an was completely revealed some 1400 years ago, and these scientific subjects were only discovered not more than a 100 years ago or even much less.
The Holy Qur'an says:
1- The man was created from mud, Pottery clay mud, and he turns to that when he dies.
2- The babies start from a hanging clot of blood like a leech.
3- Babies are born under 3 levels of darknesses.
4- Down deep the sea, there are 3 levels of darkness, at the bottommost one; a man can't see his hand when he stretches it in front of him.
5- The mountains on earth work like standing pillars, to enhance the stability of the ground.
6- The light Bulbs can't work without glass covering it.
7- The 2 different waters, the fresh, and salt, cannot mix with each others, because there's a barrier between the two.
8- The sun, the moon, the earth, and the rest of the planets are in orbit around each others, and they move to a resting place.
9- There are 2 moons.
10- the heaven is rent asunder, becoming like an oily red flower.
11- The earth is round.
now these are only 11 points of what the Qur'an said, 1400 years ago, about what we have only discovered few years ago, these are facts, truths, which you cannot deny.
The people 1400 years ago had absolutely no technology or whatsoever to discover such things, yet the Qur'an brought them and taught the people about them.
these points are explained in verses in the Qur'an, if you want references i'll be glad to give them to you, but even without them, trust me :} these points are in the Qur'an :}
Science Says:
1- You don't realy need any science to explain this to you, by logic, if you create a table from wood and scrap it, you get wood, if you make it from iron and scrap it, you get iron, so is the man, is scrapped ( dead ) you get ashes of pottery clay, it is pretty much observed.
2- http://www.webmd.com/content/article/64/72360.htm#Weeks1and2
http://www.med.upenn.edu/meded/public/berp/overview.mov
http://www.wprc.org/fetal.phtml
3- Now the embryo starts to grow one millimeter a day. After two weeks of rapid-fire cell division, the clump of cells is poised to become recognizably human. Taking nonstop direction from the genetic blueprint forged at conception, the cells differentiate into three distinct layers. Ultimately, these layers will give rise to every single body organ and part (see diagram, left).
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1590/is_1_59/ai_95845318
4- http://people.whitman.edu/~yancey/deepsea.html there's a dynamic picture that has 3 lines crossing them, showing the 3 different sea layers.
http://www.seasky.org/monsters/sea7a4.html shows 5 layers, but 3 levels of darkness
5- http://www.amse.net/The%20Geological%20Concept/Summary%20and%20Conclusion.htm
http://www.nooran.org/EN/Q/3.htm
6- http://rabi.phys.virginia.edu/HTW/incandescent_light_bulbs.html there are different topics, all of them are examples.
7- http://www.harborside.com/~ssnerr/mixing.htm
http://ology.amnh.org/marinebiology/stufftodo/salinity_do.html
8- well, you can pretty much see that all around, but the resting place thing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliocentrism
scroll down to The view of modern science, reading the above is recommended too.
9- http://djstelios.wordpress.com/2006/06/16/earth-has-two-moons-really/
http://www.nineplanets.org/hypo.html
10- http://www.space.com/imageoftheday/image_of_day_060822.html
http://www.space.com/imageoftheday/image_of_day_060427.html
http://www.space.com/imageoftheday/image_of_day_060425.html
http://www.space.com/imageoftheday/image_of_day_060424.html
11- you don't need anything to tell you that this is true ;p but before 1400 years no one knew that or even cared to know maybe.
The balance is called marriage between woman and man, Trust me society was fine before homosexuals.
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No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
[35] Allâh is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The parable of His Light is as (if there were) a niche and within it a lamp: the lamp is in glass, the glass as it were a brilliant star, lit from a blessed tree, an olive, neither of the east (i.e. neither it gets sun-rays only in the morning) nor of the west (i.e. nor it gets sun-rays only in the afternoon, but it is exposed to the sun all day long), whose oil would almost glow forth (of itself), though no fire touched it. Light upon Light! Allâh guides to His Light whom He wills. And Allâh sets forth parables for mankind, and Allâh is All-Knower of everything. CHAPTER 24.
Light Bulbs cannot be lit without being in a glass :}
Of course, this kind of explaination cannot be comprehended by some fundamentalists such as Naldric and Xexima, they only take the Qur'an literally, and they only take the Qur'an from the enemies of Islam, so their sources are messed up.
http://quran.muslim-web.com/
this is a realy good source of the Qur'an, although the translation is not 100% accurate, because you can't realy translate the Qur'an itself, you can only translate the explanation of the verses to get a full meaning in other languages.
[35] Allâh is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The parable of His Light is as (if there were) a niche and within it a lamp: the lamp is in glass, the glass as it were a brilliant star, lit from a blessed tree, an olive, neither of the east (i.e. neither it gets sun-rays only in the morning) nor of the west (i.e. nor it gets sun-rays only in the afternoon, but it is exposed to the sun all day long), whose oil would almost glow forth (of itself), though no fire touched it. Light upon Light! Allâh guides to His Light whom He wills. And Allâh sets forth parables for mankind, and Allâh is All-Knower of everything. CHAPTER 24.
Light Bulbs cannot be lit without being in a glass :}
Of course, this kind of explaination cannot be comprehended by some fundamentalists such as Naldric and Xexima, they only take the Qur'an literally, and they only take the Qur'an from the enemies of Islam, so their sources are messed up.
http://quran.muslim-web.com/
this is a realy good source of the Qur'an, although the translation is not 100% accurate, because you can't realy translate the Qur'an itself, you can only translate the explanation of the verses to get a full meaning in other languages.
Sorry i m not against the Qur'an in particular, i m against any doctrine that forces an ideologie on people, and i dont believe old books have the answers to the universe... i m a fundamentalist in what? tell me, i dont believe in God or any religion, i believe in proof and fact, if you cant prove something without any doubt then it's at best a theory (when it needs more testing or proof) , and at worst a total lie... I dont mind ppl believing in whatever they want, it just hurt my senses that people think it's alright to name calling/bashing/killing people based on sex, race, sexual orientation, etc etc using their religion as an excuse. If you think what they are doing is a sin, keep it to yourself, they probably dont need you opinion on the matter and for them, their love is probably not a sin. How can ppl be so petty.
[35] Allâh is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The parable of His Light is as (if there were) a niche and within it a lamp: the lamp is in glass, the glass as it were a brilliant star, lit from a blessed tree, an olive, neither of the east (i.e. neither it gets sun-rays only in the morning) nor of the west (i.e. nor it gets sun-rays only in the afternoon, but it is exposed to the sun all day long), whose oil would almost glow forth (of itself), though no fire touched it. Light upon Light! Allâh guides to His Light whom He wills. And Allâh sets forth parables for mankind, and Allâh is All-Knower of everything. CHAPTER 24.
Light Bulbs cannot be lit without being in a glass :}
Of course, this kind of explaination cannot be comprehended by some fundamentalists such as Naldric and Xexima, they only take the Qur'an literally, and they only take the Qur'an from the enemies of Islam, so their sources are messed up.
http://quran.muslim-web.com/
this is a realy good source of the Qur'an, although the translation is not 100% accurate, because you can't realy translate the Qur'an itself, you can only translate the explanation of the verses to get a full meaning in other languages.
Sorry i m not against the Qur'an in particular, i m against any doctrine that forces an ideologie on people, and i dont believe old books have the answers to the universe... i m a fundamentalist in what? tell me, i dont believe in God or any religion, i believe in proof and fact, if you cant prove something without any doubt then it's at best a theory (when it needs more testing or proof) , and at worst a total lie... I dont mind ppl believing in whatever they want, it just hurt my senses that people think it's alright to name calling/bashing/killing people based on sex, race, sexual orientation, etc etc using their religion as an excuse. If you think what they are doing is a sin, keep it to yourself, they probably dont need you opinion on the matter and for them, their love is probably not a sin. How can ppl be so petty.
i m a fundamentalist in what? tell me
i'll tell you, you understand Islam from the enemies of Islam who don't wish you to know the true Islam, you understand Islam based on literal interpretations, isn't this what makes up a fundamentalist? then it is you.
the things i have highlight in light red, these things don't exist in Islam, and Islam totally rejects them, BUT, if you decided to become a Muslim, then YOU must accept the rules of Islam, and Islam won't change based on your likings.
now forget about homosexuality, don't you think that there's something called Forbidden love? why can't you have sex with your mother or father? why a girl can't be a lesbian with her mother? there are different kinds of love here, Illegal love is what brings destruction to your society, diseases and retardation and incapability of the people.
if your govie prohibits homosexuality because of:
1- people need to have normal marriage to populate the country.
2- diseases are discovered to have been generated through homosexual relationship.
would you agree with your govie if they forbid homosexuality for your own safety and your country's safety because of these reasons?
If you are a man with a mind that thinks right, of course you'll agree, but if you are a retard who don't care, you will not.
and of course, you totally ignored the thing about the light bulbs :}
Homosexuals were not restricted by marriage and back when HIV/ was
unheard of and was refused to be acknowledged Homosexuals had sex with
many other men. I trust you understand basic numbers? 1 Gets infected
and soon many more do in this case. Homosexuals certainly didn't
"create" HIV, but it was spread faster because they couldn't settle in
a relationship because of the homophobia and laws set against them.
In
a world that is rapidly expanding at a rate that we can't actually
support there is no reason to force everyone into a heterosexual
relationship to have babies.
Labelling people that agree with
you to be level headed individuals and individuals that don't agree to
be cavemen is retarded. Seek psychological help please.
Homosexuals (men) have more sex on average than heterosexual (men) because they dont have to deal with women..... If women on average held the same views to sex as men on average do... Then there would be no discrepancy.. But women usually are more inherantly conservative (as in how often they WANT to have sex) with their sex life...
Because of this fact gay men are much more likely to get diseases then straightmen.. Here's some info rom the Gay and Lesbian Medical Association. CLICKME
What's your Wu Name?
Donovan --> Wu Name = Violent Knight
Methane47 --> Wu Name = Thunderous Leader
"Some people call me the walking plank, 'cuz any where you go... Death is right behind you.."
<i>ME<i>
i m a fundamentalist in what? tell me
i'll tell you, you understand Islam from the enemies of Islam who don't wish you to know the true Islam, you understand Islam based on literal interpretations, isn't this what makes up a fundamentalist? then it is you.
the things i have highlight in light red, these things don't exist in Islam, and Islam totally rejects them, BUT, if you decided to become a Muslim, then YOU must accept the rules of Islam, and Islam won't change based on your likings.
now forget about homosexuality, don't you think that there's something called Forbidden love? why can't you have sex with your mother or father? why a girl can't be a lesbian with her mother? there are different kinds of love here, Illegal love is what brings destruction to your society, diseases and retardation and incapability of the people.
if your govie prohibits homosexuality because of:
1- people need to have normal marriage to populate the country.
2- diseases are discovered to have been generated through homosexual relationship.
would you agree with your govie if they forbid homosexuality for your own safety and your country's safety because of these reasons?
If you are a man with a mind that thinks right, of course you'll agree, but if you are a retard who don't care, you will not.
and of course, you totally ignored the thing about the light bulbs :}
I really hope you are joking,
1. it's not because homosexuality is considered normal that heterosexuals will become homosexuals, get a clue.... there will always be heterosexuals as there will always be homosexuals, why stip them from the rights other people have, if that's what your religions says is right, then it's discrimination, and discrimination leads to hate and hate leads to destruction.
2. Diseases werent made by homosexual relationships or sex... please get your facts together, if you are talking about AIDS it is a virus that first originated in small mamals and probably got transfered to the apes throught raw flesh eating, and then got to humans by the same process... yeah.... ewwww... (no comment), and then got transmited from the human who ate the raw flesh, to others throught sex... of course this is only one of a thousand possibility and theories.... but it's still better than, God made Aids to kill homosexuals.... when right now, heterosexuals infection cases are increasing, and homosexuals decreasing.
and as for the spreading effect, in Africa the hundreds of thousands were infected by promiscuous homosexual sex huh?
"Fear not death; for the sooner we die, the longer shall we be immortal."
HAHAHAHAHAHA, i wont respond to you again.... but nice one, you got me laughing LOL, that last sentence coming from you is the cherry on the top, really i couldnt even think you were that uninformed.... i put in blue the hot spots for anybody to see.... you are the best
ahh, so AIDS virus moves where? in BLOOD, oh my God, i've been talking to a total idiot.
and yes, because one man's sperm ontop another's ontop another's is what generates AIDS, want to make an experiment? go ahead, tell a whore to go and have sex with 10 men, all of them come inside her, in one week, see what happens after a while, AIDS.
goodbye man, good luck in your education.
ahh, so AIDS virus moves where? in BLOOD, oh my God, i've been talking to a total idiot.
and yes, because one man's sperm ontop another's ontop another's is what generates AIDS, want to make an experiment? go ahead, tell a whore to go and have sex with 10 men, all of them come inside her, in one week, see what happens after a while, AIDS.
goodbye man, good luck in your education.
LOL nice I love how blunt onemuslim is..
And AIDS really can be transmitted through mosquito bites.... just not very likely...
What's your Wu Name?
Donovan --> Wu Name = Violent Knight
Methane47 --> Wu Name = Thunderous Leader
"Some people call me the walking plank, 'cuz any where you go... Death is right behind you.."
<i>ME<i>
ahh, so AIDS virus moves where? in BLOOD, oh my God, i've been talking to a total idiot.
and yes, because one man's sperm ontop another's ontop another's is what generates AIDS, want to make an experiment? go ahead, tell a whore to go and have sex with 10 men, all of them come inside her, in one week, see what happens after a while, AIDS.
goodbye man, good luck in your education.
I told you i wont answer to you anymore but we need somethings clarified so i just replied this time:
First: AIDS isnt when you combine 3 mens sperm, AIDS is a virus, ok? it's a living organism, that spread through human or animal (yes... animals have AIDS too) body fluids like sperm, blood, vaginal fluids and prostatal fluids.
Second: If none of the 10 men is HIV+ then the woman dont have a single chance of getting AIDS and a week after a sexual enconter you can have aids and still not show on a test, it has an incubation time between 2 weeks to 6 month where it doesnt show in any HIV testing
Third: mosquito dont transmite aids, the infected blood in the mosquito doesnt come out again, and the AIDS virus doesnt locate himself in the mouth of the mosquito like malaria for example.
Hope my answer helped you....
Third: mosquito dont transmite aids, the infected blood in the mosquito doesnt come out again, and the AIDS virus doesnt locate himself in the mouth of the mosquito like malaria for example.
It is said that they dont transfer or rather it's really unlikely.. because Mosquitoes dont shoot blood down and plus once full of blood they dont suck blood again for another 4-7?days and AIDS is digested within 2 days... But it is possible if there is any residue left on the sucker and it was a very short time in between persons... i'd say hours.... and multiple times to get enough of a reaction.. Anyways It would be very rare/unlikely but it is possible... Same like it's possible to contract aids by kissing someone... Only problem is you would have to suck down about a gallon of saliva to get enough of the virus so it could spread...
What's your Wu Name?
Donovan --> Wu Name = Violent Knight
Methane47 --> Wu Name = Thunderous Leader
"Some people call me the walking plank, 'cuz any where you go... Death is right behind you.."
<i>ME<i>
Actually, no that doesn't clear things up at all. First off you're quoting Levitical law. Nobody is required to follow that anymore. Learn what the heck you're talking about.
And as far as Romans goes, I'm Jewish, so keep your New Testament rules to yourself. And quit trying to impose your beliefs on others.