Originally posted by hercules Originally posted by Kemarik 4. And a more personal question, how old are you and what is your educational background?
Thats a stupid question to even ask.
Did you even think before you wrote that?
Your mouth opens and crap spews out. Par for the course hercules.
I can't find the exact quote but I read a post from one of the devs that said the audience that RedBedLam is catering to for Roma Victor are youngish college-educated professionals. It may sound elitist, but in-game these are basically the only kind of people I'm meeting. I can guess that the complexity of the game, the roleplaying and need for player created content (i.e. creativity), and the existence of the VERM ($$$) are dictating the audience.
So, yes I did think before I wrote that and I do find the question pertinent.
By the way, Borba posted a long rant on the RV forums the same time he posted here and his last statement was:
"I tried but I can't touch it anymore, not today at least, I'll have to calm down a bit, as games with great ideas but awful realization insult me."
Many from the RV community posted words of encouragement to him in replies. I hope he has stuck with RV and I meet him in game some day to say hello.
As for the situation about the reviewer of RV the screen shot in question. A screen shot showing an inventory on the net would be hard. All the offical screen shots by RV Staff do not have inventories visable except for one which is clearly KFR cuz it has about 20 long shields in it.
Also, why would the accounts not have money in them? Every account comes with 5000 ses does it not? The only thing that could of been hindering the review would be the lag which would make it impossible to try anything thus maybe why he made the comment that it was boring and the fighting was crap...cuz hits were 5 min apart.
Originally posted by TheVF Guess who's still waiting on their $10 from the bet they clearly won?
This guy.
Me.
I now have a much clearer understanding why you dont like RV...you did a half assed job of trying to prove your point and are now whinging for your reward...I think you might find WoW more your speed...
Originally posted by grinreaper Originally posted by TheVF Guess who's still waiting on their $10 from the bet they clearly won?
This guy.
Me.
I now have a much clearer understanding why you dont like RV...you did a half assed job of trying to prove your point and are now whinging for your reward...I think you might find WoW more your speed...
I didn't need to prove the point. The magazine article did that for me.
Originally posted by TheVF Originally posted by grinreaper Originally posted by TheVF Guess who's still waiting on their $10 from the bet they clearly won?
This guy.
Me.
I now have a much clearer understanding why you dont like RV...you did a half assed job of trying to prove your point and are now whinging for your reward...I think you might find WoW more your speed...
I didn't need to prove the point. The magazine article did that for me.
This one is classic.We should sticky it or something .I just loaded RV to show a friend and showed him this quote.I think he gonna bust something laughing
I can't find the exact quote but I read a post from one of the devs that said the audience that RedBedLam is catering to for Roma Victor are youngish college-educated professionals.
Originally posted by Tzitzimime That is not what he said... those are your words. Read the quote, instead of making up your own interpretation.
I don't think i altered any quotes here unlike sempiternal does
If you read why this statements came about he actually asked someone his educational background because he had negative things to say about the game.
If anything the game is made very unprofessional.If i produced such a project at work i will be asked "what did you learn at university" .So if anything the question should be reversed on the developers .
You don't need even a high school diploma to play a bloody mmorpg but you probably do to make it .
Originally posted by hercules Originally posted by grinreaper dont mind Herc...he is just here to bash on a game he never played in past 'kill 10 giant rats' stage of.
alas,if only there were rats to kill might actually be less boring as horrible as it sounds .
It's just not that kind of game, and was never intended to be.
Let me ask you something. What would it take to get you to stop trying to discredit this game? How much time would have to pass before you get over it and move on with your life? What features would the game have to implement before warning people away from it ceases to be such a critical public service as you make it out to be? What state would the game have to be in before you decide it's not worth it?
If you're building an mmorpg, or if you'd like to share ideas or talk about this industry, visit Multiplayer Worlds.
Originally posted by grinreaper Originally posted by TheVF Guess who's still waiting on their $10 from the bet they clearly won?
This guy.
Me.
I now have a much clearer understanding why you dont like RV...you did a half assed job of trying to prove your point and are now whinging for your reward...I think you might find WoW more your speed...
At least WoW is playable .. oh and fun. Anyone can watch the RV combat videos that have been posted in another thread and see how badly coded this game is. C'mon the fighting animations are pitifull, walk up to other guy and swing a couple of wimpy looking wacks and one guy falls down, haha man it's pathedic. Let's put an RV and a WoW video side by side and ask someone who has never played either game which one they would like to play, what do you think the answer would be? You can argue that only 1337 kiddies and retarted hillbillies play WoW, but that's not the case at all. There are full guilds of mature highly intelligent people that play WoW. The only reason you run into so many of those griefer type of people in WoW is because the servers actualy have people on them. You will say RV is a "niche" game and I can't argue with that, but the fact that it is a "niche" game might very well be it's downfall. I'm not saying RV is a bad game.......... well....yes I am.
To compare RV to WoW is like comparing an Atari 2600 to an XBox 360.
Those statements surprise me, MMO_Man. I had the impression that you were one of the few who came to this game with the right expectations. But now you're comparing a small independent project to multimillion dollar project by one of the biggest companies in the industry in terms of superficial things like that? Obviously RV can't compare to WoW in terms of those things. If you bought the game looking for that sort of stuff, it was a poor decision, but not the fault of the game or developer. (I assume your excuse for being here is like Hercules, you want to prevent others from being "scammed" like you)
The appeal of RV comes from its innovativeness, free form gameplay, realism, economy, open pvp, politics, and community. These are not things you can express in a video. I agree that given the contest you propose, WoW would come out on top. However, RV is a completely different type of game; there are really no universal objective standards you could use to compare the enjoyability of them. RV has "fanbois" so obviously it has something that's enjoyable to some people, even if not to you.
I'm going to ask you what I asked Hercules. What would it take to get you to stop posting here criticizing the game?
If you're building an mmorpg, or if you'd like to share ideas or talk about this industry, visit Multiplayer Worlds.
Originally posted by Virtus New rule, ignore posts by TheVF, he isn't worth responding to.
Isn't that a response.
Apparently you are not educated and therefore you are not part of the audience Redbedlam is seeking for their game.
"We feel gold selling and websites that promote it damage games like Vanguard and will do everything possible to combat it." Brad McQuaid Chairman & CEO, Sigil Games Online, Inc. Executive Producer, Vanguard: Saga of Heroes www.vanguardsoh
response: any behavior of a living organism that results from an external or internal stimulus
living organism - that be you
external stimulus - that be TheVF posts
behavior - that be your not responding
"We feel gold selling and websites that promote it damage games like Vanguard and will do everything possible to combat it." Brad McQuaid Chairman & CEO, Sigil Games Online, Inc. Executive Producer, Vanguard: Saga of Heroes www.vanguardsoh
Originally posted by Impacatus Those statements surprise me, MMO_Man. I had the impression that you were one of the few who came to this game with the right expectations. But now you're comparing a small independent project to multimillion dollar project by one of the biggest companies in the industry in terms of superficial things like that? Obviously RV can't compare to WoW in terms of those things. If you bought the game looking for that sort of stuff, it was a poor decision, but not the fault of the game or developer. (I assume your excuse for being here is like Hercules, you want to prevent others from being "scammed" like you) The appeal of RV comes from its innovativeness, free form gameplay, realism, economy, open pvp, politics, and community. These are not things you can express in a video. I agree that given the contest you propose, WoW would come out on top. However, RV is a completely different type of game; there are really no universal objective standards you could use to compare the enjoyability of them. RV has "fanbois" so obviously it has something that's enjoyable to some people, even if not to you. I'm going to ask you what I asked Hercules. What would it take to get you to stop posting here criticizing the game?
Why not try READING my post before you reply, because you seem to have missed the point. The guy I was quoting was telling someone that WoW would be more his speed. I don't see how that is an insult considering that WoW is a very playable, and enjoyable game. I am also tired of people thinking they are somehow better than other people because they play "xx" game and it's for "mature" or "smart" people, this usualy translates into "boring gameplay". If the fanbois want to tell those of us who think RV is a sub-par game and was only released in an unfinished state to score some money to go back to WoW, then I will continue to compare the two games.
As far as getting myself and Hurcules to stop posting, we can send you our paypal info.
Originally posted by MMO_Man Originally posted by Impacatus Those statements surprise me, MMO_Man. I had the impression that you were one of the few who came to this game with the right expectations. But now you're comparing a small independent project to multimillion dollar project by one of the biggest companies in the industry in terms of superficial things like that? Obviously RV can't compare to WoW in terms of those things. If you bought the game looking for that sort of stuff, it was a poor decision, but not the fault of the game or developer. (I assume your excuse for being here is like Hercules, you want to prevent others from being "scammed" like you) The appeal of RV comes from its innovativeness, free form gameplay, realism, economy, open pvp, politics, and community. These are not things you can express in a video. I agree that given the contest you propose, WoW would come out on top. However, RV is a completely different type of game; there are really no universal objective standards you could use to compare the enjoyability of them. RV has "fanbois" so obviously it has something that's enjoyable to some people, even if not to you. I'm going to ask you what I asked Hercules. What would it take to get you to stop posting here criticizing the game?
Why not try READING my post before you reply, because you seem to have missed the point. The guy I was quoting was telling someone that WoW would be more his speed. I don't see how that is an insult considering that WoW is a very playable, and enjoyable game. I am also tired of people thinking they are somehow better than other people because they play "xx" game and it's for "mature" or "smart" people, this usualy translates into "boring gameplay". If the fanbois want to tell those of us who think RV is a sub-par game and was only released in an unfinished state to score some money to go back to WoW, then I will continue to compare the two games.
As far as getting myself and Hurcules to stop posting, we can send you our paypal info.
QFT! The fanboiZZZ don't want anyone to post the bad, but they will twist the truth to try and get more people to play for some strange reason. If the game rocks so much go play the friggin thing and just let us rant on.
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Thats a stupid question to even ask.
Did you even think before you wrote that?
Your mouth opens and crap spews out. Par for the course hercules.
I can't find the exact quote but I read a post from one of the devs that said the audience that RedBedLam is catering to for Roma Victor are youngish college-educated professionals. It may sound elitist, but in-game these are basically the only kind of people I'm meeting. I can guess that the complexity of the game, the roleplaying and need for player created content (i.e. creativity), and the existence of the VERM ($$$) are dictating the audience.
So, yes I did think before I wrote that and I do find the question pertinent.
By the way, Borba posted a long rant on the RV forums the same time he posted here and his last statement was:
"I tried but I can't touch it anymore, not today at least, I'll have to calm down a bit, as games with great ideas but awful realization insult me."
Many from the RV community posted words of encouragement to him in replies. I hope he has stuck with RV and I meet him in game some day to say hello.
Also, why would the accounts not have money in them? Every account comes with 5000 ses does it not? The only thing that could of been hindering the review would be the lag which would make it impossible to try anything thus maybe why he made the comment that it was boring and the fighting was crap...cuz hits were 5 min apart.
I didn't need to prove the point. The magazine article did that for me.
Where's my money, crook?
STFU
I didn't need to prove the point. The magazine article did that for me.
Where's my money, crook?
I'll make a 10$ donation to RB on your behalf...
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This one is classic.We should sticky it or something .I just loaded RV to show a friend and showed him this quote.I think he gonna bust something laughing
I think what he said was accurate.
The game has a mostly older, mature community of working class players with families. I do not see what is so funny about this statement...
I can't find the exact quote but I read a post from one of the devs that said the audience that RedBedLam is catering to for Roma Victor are youngish college-educated professionals.
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If you aren't college educated then its not for you.LoL and you think thats not funny.
/whips out his degree in biochemistry .See i knew it would come in more useful then just getting my boring job in a nhs hospital lab!
That is not what he said... those are your words.
Read the quote, instead of making up your own interpretation.
I don't think i altered any quotes here unlike sempiternal does
If you read why this statements came about he actually asked someone his educational background because he had negative things to say about the game.
If anything the game is made very unprofessional.If i produced such a project at work i will be asked "what did you learn at university" .So if anything the question should be reversed on the developers .
You don't need even a high school diploma to play a bloody mmorpg but you probably do to make it .
alas,if only there were rats to kill might actually be less boring as horrible as it sounds .
alas,if only there were rats to kill might actually be less boring as horrible as it sounds .
It's just not that kind of game, and was never intended to be.
Let me ask you something. What would it take to get you to stop trying to discredit this game? How much time would have to pass before you get over it and move on with your life? What features would the game have to implement before warning people away from it ceases to be such a critical public service as you make it out to be? What state would the game have to be in before you decide it's not worth it?
If you're building an mmorpg, or if you'd like to share ideas or talk about this industry, visit Multiplayer Worlds.
At least WoW is playable .. oh and fun. Anyone can watch the RV combat videos that have been posted in another thread and see how badly coded this game is. C'mon the fighting animations are pitifull, walk up to other guy and swing a couple of wimpy looking wacks and one guy falls down, haha man it's pathedic.
Let's put an RV and a WoW video side by side and ask someone who has never played either game which one they would like to play, what do you think the answer would be?
You can argue that only 1337 kiddies and retarted hillbillies play WoW, but that's not the case at all. There are full guilds of mature highly intelligent people that play WoW. The only reason you run into so many of those griefer type of people in WoW is because the servers actualy have people on them.
You will say RV is a "niche" game and I can't argue with that, but the fact that it is a "niche" game might very well be it's downfall. I'm not saying RV is a bad game.......... well....yes I am.
To compare RV to WoW is like comparing an Atari 2600 to an XBox 360.
I sleep with a pillow under my gun.
Those statements surprise me, MMO_Man. I had the impression that you were one of the few who came to this game with the right expectations. But now you're comparing a small independent project to multimillion dollar project by one of the biggest companies in the industry in terms of superficial things like that? Obviously RV can't compare to WoW in terms of those things. If you bought the game looking for that sort of stuff, it was a poor decision, but not the fault of the game or developer. (I assume your excuse for being here is like Hercules, you want to prevent others from being "scammed" like you)
The appeal of RV comes from its innovativeness, free form gameplay, realism, economy, open pvp, politics, and community. These are not things you can express in a video. I agree that given the contest you propose, WoW would come out on top. However, RV is a completely different type of game; there are really no universal objective standards you could use to compare the enjoyability of them. RV has "fanbois" so obviously it has something that's enjoyable to some people, even if not to you.
I'm going to ask you what I asked Hercules. What would it take to get you to stop posting here criticizing the game?
If you're building an mmorpg, or if you'd like to share ideas or talk about this industry, visit Multiplayer Worlds.
Isn't that a response.
Apparently you are not educated and therefore you are not part of the audience Redbedlam is seeking for their game.
"We feel gold selling and websites that promote it damage games like Vanguard and will do everything possible to combat it."
Brad McQuaid
Chairman & CEO, Sigil Games Online, Inc.
Executive Producer, Vanguard: Saga of Heroes
www.vanguardsoh
Isn't that a response.
Apparently you are not educated and therefore you are not part of the audience Redbedlam is seeking for their game.
no...cuz i was not talking to him...i was talking about him
response: A reply, answer, or additional message that is returned to a sender.
from Webster's College dictionary
response: any behavior of a living organism that results from an external or internal stimulus
living organism - that be you
external stimulus - that be TheVF posts
behavior - that be your not responding
"We feel gold selling and websites that promote it damage games like Vanguard and will do everything possible to combat it."
Brad McQuaid
Chairman & CEO, Sigil Games Online, Inc.
Executive Producer, Vanguard: Saga of Heroes
www.vanguardsoh
If the fanbois want to tell those of us who think RV is a sub-par game and was only released in an unfinished state to score some money to go back to WoW, then I will continue to compare the two games.
As far as getting myself and Hurcules to stop posting, we can send you our paypal info.
I sleep with a pillow under my gun.
If you're building an mmorpg, or if you'd like to share ideas or talk about this industry, visit Multiplayer Worlds.
If the fanbois want to tell those of us who think RV is a sub-par game and was only released in an unfinished state to score some money to go back to WoW, then I will continue to compare the two games.
As far as getting myself and Hurcules to stop posting, we can send you our paypal info.
QFT! The fanboiZZZ don't want anyone to post the bad, but they will twist the truth to try and get more people to play for some strange reason. If the game rocks so much go play the friggin thing and just let us rant on.