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  • TheVFTheVF Member Posts: 47
    It is of vital importance that I know your age and educational background.

    Also, who is your daddy and what does he do?


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  • TheVFTheVF Member Posts: 47
    I don't give a crap about the game. I care about Red Bedlam being totally dishonest and corrupt. Can you people even refute how much they've done wrong in this thread?

    Don't tell me you don't want to see the screenshot of the reviewer's play stats.

    Also, the fans of this game are mostly rabid and incapable of coherent thoughts. That's what really keeps me coming back.




  • BuZZKilgoreBuZZKilgore Member Posts: 525


    Originally posted by papacapjack

    Originally posted by TheVF
    It is of vital importance that I know your age and educational background.

    Also, who is your daddy and what does he do?


    You sir are retarded, I wish I could put it any other way but I cant, we enjoy the game and thats our freedoms as people too, are we really that sad for enjoying Roma-Victor, perhaps but at least we arent as sad as you coming on here spamming this thread with your useless unconstructive prepubescent crap.

    Get A LIFE or stick to WoW, you dont like the game because you havent played (or maybe you just suck) give it a low rating then piss off.


    I'm going to start counting how many times you RV fanbois tell people to go play WoW, like that's an insult. You guys need to stop acting like you are elite for playing this game. It's begining to sound like the Eve forums "if you don't like RV you must be retarded, immature, ect. We just happen to think that YOU sir are retarded for liking RV, so I guess we're even. We just cannot allow the fanboiz to come on these forums and tell people that this game is great and the best thing out there, because it's not. I posted the combat videos on the general forums and people are laughing their asses off at this game.

    You like to play it? Then go play it! We don't like to play it so we wont, but we both have the right to voice our opinions about the game. Now go make some piles of mud or whatever you do for fun in RV.
  • herculeshercules Member UncommonPosts: 4,925


    Originally posted by TheVF

    Also, the fans of this game are mostly rabid and incapable of coherent thoughts. That's what really keeps me coming back.




    Thats about the truth of it.For those that been around long enough you would know some fans have made it their personal crusade to populate this game by "hook or by crook" and have been doing it since beta.

    So as long as this people keep spewing the distortion there will be a balance to tell people the other side of the story.I have RV loaded on my downstairs computer which has tons of free space.Anytime a claim is made i can check it out easily and will post here.


  • VirtusVirtus Member Posts: 492

    The VF, what you talking about game stats.



  • jandrsnjandrsn Member Posts: 187


    Originally posted by Virtus
    "...Unless you can find the one player per side that can deattend you..."

    WOW! this reviewer did his HW.

    If he had he would of known that the LLM (Lord, Lady, Magistrate) of each board  can deattend you. However there are currently no other boards under control of a LLM.





    So, in other words, there is only one person who can deattend you?  But there could be more, but there aren't but there could be?  So what he said is right, and what you have said is splitting hairs in order to try to make it seem like he is wrong?

    You can call a shovel an ice cream cone, but it's still a shovel...

  • VirtusVirtus Member Posts: 492


    Originally posted by jandrsn

    Originally posted by Virtus
    "...Unless you can find the one player per side that can deattend you..."

    WOW! this reviewer did his HW.

    If he had he would of known that the LLM (Lord, Lady, Magistrate) of each board  can deattend you. However there are currently no other boards under control of a LLM.




    So, in other words, there is only one person who can deattend you?  But there could be more, but there aren't but there could be?  So what he said is right, and what you have said is splitting hairs in order to try to make it seem like he is wrong?

    You can call a shovel an ice cream cone, but it's still a shovel...



    actaually there are 2 that can deattend you. either of the current 2 LLM can deattend you. You just have to be a pain in the ass around the other to get him to deattend you
  • TheVFTheVF Member Posts: 47



    Originally posted by Virtus

    The VF, what you talking about game stats.





    I want to see exactly how long the reviewer was playing the game for.  RedBedLam claimed that the reviewer played for only a few hours over the course of a week (I think, I'll have to go back and check the exact wording).

    RedBedLam has the logs of the game time - I want to see it.  I want everyone to see it.  I want it posted here in this thread.

    I'm sure everyone is interested now, after all that has happened.  Anyone else interested in seeing some evidence of RedBedLam's claims?
  • TzitzimimeTzitzimime Member Posts: 15


    Originally posted by TheVF
    I don't give a crap about the game. I care about Red Bedlam being totally dishonest and corrupt. Can you people even refute how much they've done wrong in this thread?

    Don't tell me you don't want to see the screenshot of the reviewer's play stats.

    Also, the fans of this game are mostly rabid and incapable of coherent thoughts. That's what really keeps me coming back.





    As one of the fair and honest players here, I ask you to sit down and think hard about what it is you are writing. To call Red Bedlam totally dishonest and corrupt is pure hyperbole, and it makes you look desperate for attention. I clearly explained to you why there was a misunderstanding. You may not forgive them, but do not make outrageous accusations just to justify your need to insult this game constantly. If Kanoth was dishonest, why would he ever admit his mistake...?

    Also, do not ask a lead developer to post a screenshot of a reviewer's play stats and honestly expect an answer. You would never get half this attention from the other game companies, so do not get carried away with yourself here and make childish demands. We all heard the story now. Believe what they said or not, but just let it rest.

    As for getting yourself deattended, the reviewer was wrong because you could either complete the tasks for the elder NPC or you could simply post in the forums and ask to be deattended (in the conveniently stickied thread). You do not have to go and find anyone. It is somewhat difficult by design because Romans have to earn their way out of slavery, and barabarians have to earn the trust of the village...

  • TheVFTheVF Member Posts: 47


    Originally posted by Tzitzimime

    Originally posted by TheVF
    I don't give a crap about the game. I care about Red Bedlam being totally dishonest and corrupt. Can you people even refute how much they've done wrong in this thread?

    Don't tell me you don't want to see the screenshot of the reviewer's play stats.

    Also, the fans of this game are mostly rabid and incapable of coherent thoughts. That's what really keeps me coming back.




    As one of the fair and honest players here, I ask you to sit down and think hard about what it is you are writing. To call Red Bedlam totally dishonest and corrupt is pure hyperbole, and it makes you look desperate for attention. I clearly explained to you why there was a misunderstanding. You may not forgive them, but do not make outrageous accusations just to justify your need to insult this game constantly. If Kanoth was dishonest, why would he ever admit his mistake...?

    Also, do not ask a lead developer to post a screenshot of a reviewer's play stats and honestly expect an answer. You would never get half this attention from the other game companies, so do not get carried away with yourself here and make childish demands. We all heard the story now. Believe what they said or not, but just let it rest.


    As for getting yourself deattended, the reviewer was wrong because you could either complete the tasks for the elder NPC or you could simply post in the forums and ask to be deattended (in the conveniently stickied thread). You do not have to go and find anyone. It is somewhat difficult by design because Romans have to earn their way out of slavery, and barabarians have to earn the trust of the village...


    Why would I not expect an answer when the someone from the company has already responded directly to the review in question, the situation involving someone representing the company saying in a public forum that the reviewer went behind their back in reviewing the game and then felt the need to state that the reviewer only logged in a few hours of game time.

    I am asking for proof of a statement that someone from the company made on in this thread.

    If they want to publically claim that the review was inaccurate due to lack of play time, then I have the right to request the proof to back up their point.
  • TheVFTheVF Member Posts: 47
    And grinreaper still owes me $10.

  • KemarikKemarik Member Posts: 122

    Hey guys!  I just wanted to share something really funny I just found by typing "Libel Slander Internet Forums" into Google and then clicking on the first link I found:

    "In ordinary conversations at clubs or other social functions, it is rare to hear someone accusing another of being a thief or a liar. But on the internet, such allegations abound and there are some astounding character assassinations. Why? Once again, it is so easy to do that. Just switch on the computer, login to a forum and start calling names. Child’s play really. You also see on the Internet many complaints about establishments which are not supported by any sort of evidence and which are libellous (or slanderous) in nature. These same people will never word the same complaint the same way in a “face to face” situation. All countries have existing laws to deal with libel and slander."

    Have a nice day!

    10
  • tetsultetsul Member Posts: 1,020


    Originally posted by Lordbaldur

    YARR! This here be Lordbaldur speakin', yarr...



    That speech must be some of that maturity I've heard so much about.
  • VirtusVirtus Member Posts: 492

    lLOL I LOVE YOU LORD BALDUR , now we just need puppy in here

    TheVF, you want to see the stats of the reviewer but isn't it possible that RB will change the stats since they have the ability, one way or another, to do so? As it seems that the reviewer never seems to come here it wouldn't matter.
  • ReaperUkReaperUk Member UncommonPosts: 760


    Originally posted by grinreaper

    So the 'review' comes down to:
    'the graphics suck and the interface is clunky'
    brilliant
    Pretty typical of most game mag's reviews of MMOG's...shallow and superficial.


    It's pretty much impossible to do an extensive review when most of the game that was promised hasn't even been implimented yet. As for what is there at the moment, I'm afraid the review is accurate. 8% may be unkind but it is accurate for the barebones "alpha build" quality of what little is in the game at the moment.
  • TheVFTheVF Member Posts: 47


    Originally posted by Kemarik

    Hey guys!  I just wanted to share something really funny I just found by typing "Libel Slander Internet Forums" into Google and then clicking on the first link I found:
    "In ordinary conversations at clubs or other social functions, it is rare to hear someone accusing another of being a thief or a liar. But on the internet, such allegations abound and there are some astounding character assassinations. Why? Once again, it is so easy to do that. Just switch on the computer, login to a forum and start calling names. Child’s play really. You also see on the Internet many complaints about establishments which are not supported by any sort of evidence and which are libellous (or slanderous) in nature. These same people will never word the same complaint the same way in a “face to face” situation. All countries have existing laws to deal with libel and slander."
    Have a nice day!


    Anyone who reads this thread will understand that I am referring to specific points made about the PC Zone review and reviewer.  I'll list them again for you:

    An employee - or someone posing as an employee - of RedBedLam claims that the PC Zone review was "shifty" because the magazine did not go through proper channels in obtaining a review or a review account for the game.  Furthermore, the person directly stated that the users of the game knew about the review before RedBedLam did.

    This turns out to be false - they did ask for a review, and were given a proper review account.  Also RedBedLam knew about the review.

    Grinreaper then makes a $10 bet that the reviewer didn't have any money while playing the game - the screenshots prove otherwise.  Grinreaper owes me $10 (this is an important fact - I want my $10)

    Then another RedBedLam employee claims that the reviewer did not log many hours into the game.  And now I want to see a screenshot of the stats on the reviewer's account.  I'm asking RedBedLam to shut me up.  Show me proof and I'll stand corrected.
  • TheVFTheVF Member Posts: 47


    Originally posted by Virtus

    lLOL I LOVE YOU LORD BALDUR , now we just need puppy in here

    TheVF, you want to see the stats of the reviewer but isn't it possible that RB will change the stats since they have the ability, one way or another, to do so? As it seems that the reviewer never seems to come here it wouldn't matter.


    I guess they could - at least that would be better than slinking away into the night after making that claim in a public forum.
  • TheVFTheVF Member Posts: 47


    Originally posted by tetsul

    Originally posted by Lordbaldur

    YARR! This here be Lordbaldur speakin', yarr...



    That speech must be some of that maturity I've heard so much about.




    Hey!  I liked Lordbaldur's post.
  • philjwillphiljwill Member Posts: 80
    lol, I believe grinreaper was right, whatever he said...

    anyway! you are ALL worthy of the slaughterhouse, muahaha?

    Is this really the way to go?
    let's start a civilized debate a agin, one wich is equally long and tedious but much more fun and less one-liners.....


  • TheVFTheVF Member Posts: 47
    Grinreaper made a poor choice of words when taking a shot at me - it could have been taken as racist, although I don't think that's how he/she meant it to come out.

    Basically, grin said that I'm an idiot and that my posts are the reason why developers do not talk to their userbase and that I set gaming back another couple of years.
  • TheVFTheVF Member Posts: 47
    Oh and that I really didn't win the $10 bet and that he gave his $10 to RedBedLam.

    I so won that bet, however.  He owes me $10.


  • LordbaldurLordbaldur Member Posts: 31


    Originally posted by tetsul

    Originally posted by Lordbaldur

    YARR! This here be Lordbaldur speakin', yarr...



    That speech must be some of that maturity I've heard so much about.



    I be the pyrate. And what is maturity anyway? If I'm a serial killer and enjoy killing people with forks and shit, am I immature? If I like to eat bananas, does that make me immature? If I like to flame people on online forums, say yarr and swear, does that make me immature?  Who decides these things anyway?

     

    Two thumbs up and I look forward to seeing you ingame!

    P.S Bananas suck...

  • tetsultetsul Member Posts: 1,020


    Originally posted by Lordbaldur

    Originally posted by tetsul

    Originally posted by Lordbaldur

    YARR! This here be Lordbaldur speakin', yarr...



    That speech must be some of that maturity I've heard so much about.



    I be the pyrate. And what is maturity anyway? If I'm a serial killer and enjoy killing people with forks and shit, am I immature? If I like to eat bananas, does that make me immature? If I like to flame people on online forums, say yarr and swear, does that make me immature?  Who decides these things anyway?

    Apparently the fans around here. Say what you don't like about RV and they'll be more then happy to tell you how you're immature.

     

    Two thumbs up and I look forward to seeing you ingame!

    Unless you're talking about AoC, I wouldn't hold my breath.

    P.S Bananas suck...

    Damn right. I'm so sick of them. Yes I know you have potassium, stop rubbing it in my face.



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