I was going to buy this game sight-unseen. Now that they are crawling to SOE, I will wait until the reviews are in. I have nothing against SOE but this must mean the game is in serious trouble.
Why does it mean that? SOE is by far the best publishing/advertising company in the industry, and because of what happened with another game in a completely different situation, it means this will have the same result?
Everyone voting no is just pumping their chest and will be there the moment FL opens their beta. And if they don't, its because they're foolish and spiteful.
With who? A handful of people still obsessed with events that happened years ago to a game that was mediocre to begin with? I'm not sure any developer even WANTS customers who will treat their mistakes and failures like atrocities and war crimes.
The game looks interesting, and if further news and info keeps my opinion positive, I'll likely give it a try. However, the game being on store shelves was the only way I'd ever try it, so in my case, signing with SOE dug them out of their grave, so to speak.
Yes, i will try it, as long as the game's good i couldn't care less about who is publishing it. been waiting for a long time for a new non-fantasy MMO..
Not knowing much about the state of the game (having read about it over a year ago), I read up on it on their web page and the wiki article.
It looks intriguing, even though I have no interest in the title. It looks just like Sid's Pirates online with a player-based economy.
SOE isn't a bad choice as a publisher as they handle things like billing and advertisements, at least on the face of things.
However, I suspect SOE offers to invest some money at some point and then begins exerting more control over the title. And they suck at managing MMORPGS. (In my opinion.) Then they wait for the title to stumble and buy it up for the stable.
I also think the title may be in trouble as they've been in development for ever it seems.
I'm also worried the game seems to have no depth. Like Sid's Pirates again without the dancing/courting thing added in the newest one.
*shrug*
I'd probably try it if the client were free and there were a free trial, but I really think I'd have no interest in it. Who knows, I could be surprised.
With who? A handful of people still obsessed with events that happened years ago to a game that was mediocre to begin with? I'm not sure any developer even WANTS customers who will treat their mistakes and failures like atrocities and war crimes.
The game looks interesting, and if further news and info keeps my opinion positive, I'll likely give it a try. However, the game being on store shelves was the only way I'd ever try it, so in my case, signing with SOE dug them out of their grave, so to speak.
I agree with u 100%. seriously man all SOE is really is doing is helping them get more copies out to the world faster. its a win win.
Voted yes but it prolly shoulda been a maybe. Do *I* intend to make the purchase when it hits the shelf, or maybe even pre-order? YES. My challenge lies in getting the woman to like it. As both of our computers are only mid-range I doubt we'll receive a Closed Beta invite so I am seriously hoping for an Open Beta or at least a Stress Test to get the opportunity to check out everything that has been said/written about PotBS thus far.
We got that chance with Vanguard with their Open Beta and after a few hours decided it wasn't for us and we went back to WoW. I'm hoping, nay prayin, nay... BEGGING AND PLEADING for something to take me away from WoW! Please oh please let it be PotBS!!!
Any true fan of PotBS will play (or atleast try) the game regardless of who the publisher is. Since FLS got a contract that seemingly no one else has ever gotten (or is rare), and they keep control of their game, and they do their own customer service, then what does it matter who publishes?
However, I suspect SOE offers to invest some money at some point and then begins exerting more control over the title. And they suck at managing MMORPGS. (In my opinion.) Then they wait for the title to stumble and buy it up for the stable. I also think the title may be in trouble as they've been in development for ever it seems.
So will PotBS stumble?
PotBS started off as an indie mmorpg and theyve been adding new gameplay elements to it as time goes on, so the reason behind pushing the release date back was to include more content. Its gone from a mmo naval combat simulator made by a small indie developer to a fully fledged mmorpg that will run with the big dogs.
I was going to buy this game sight-unseen. Now that they are crawling to SOE, I will wait until the reviews are in. I have nothing against SOE but this must mean the game is in serious trouble.
SOE are simply the publishin house, nothing more ... I am not sure where the 'crawling' comes into ... Flying Labs were looking for a publishing house for some time and have agreed terms with SOE. I am guessing that you are not interested in the game and are only trying to flame it ...
As so long as SOE earns a profit from subscription or sales, directly or indirectly, while offering no return incentive for past transgressions; then a boycott remains.
And that is why...
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i've been waiting for this game since last summer, and iv ben following their progress, and it looks like its gona be awesome. It doesnt make a difference in my mind that SOE is in the picture...
November 15, 2005.......the day it all went up in flames
Went with maybe...this game hasn't really caught my interest, SOE's involvement plays no bearing on my decision however.
Agreed. SOE's involvement would have no bearing on whether or not I tried a game. Piracy on the high seas just doesn't interest me on any capacity in an MMORPG context. Just my personal preference. Not saying the game is good or bad, just not my thing.
after the SWG's CU and NGE debacles and the issues that have arisen in VSoH, the answer is not only no but hell no. If most of the other people here have not yet learned from the mistakes of others who have been snakebitten by $OE, let them learn. Those who do not learn from the mistakes of history are doomed to repeat them, after all.
SWG was years ago and seems to have been just as much LucasArt's misdirection as it was SOE's. And remember, SOE saved V:SoH from certain death, so not sure why you'd hold that against them. The only SOE title I briefly tried (V:SoH) was a disastrous dud through no fault of Sony. Otherwise, none of their titles have caught my interest.
Granted, I'm a picky sonuvabitch, but none of their MMORPGs interest me enough to want to submerge myself in them, which is a must for the time investment MMORPGs require. If they pull that off someday, I wouldn't hesitate to give them a shot. Outside of EQ2, I think they tend to pick up licenses that would make better action games than RPGs. "Hey, I wanna be a jedi!" "Hey, I wanna do cool back flips like Keanu Reeves in the Matrix!" Nah.
Its as if they really WANNA make mainstream MMORPGs that'll appeal to a wide audience, and they have the financial resources to do so, but they just can't seal the deal. Maybe pirates will be their ace in the hole. YARRR!
With who? A handful of people still obsessed with events that happened years ago to a game that was mediocre to begin with? I'm not sure any developer even WANTS customers who will treat their mistakes and failures like atrocities and war crimes.
Seriously, some people, many people here don't seem to realize that there exist such a thing as a bad customer, one that saps a company's resources and undermines it. With little return for that customer, it's best to show them the door.
I was going to buy this game sight-unseen. Now that they are crawling to SOE, I will wait until the reviews are in. I have nothing against SOE but this must mean the game is in serious trouble.
You should be thankful for SOE's involvement then -- blind buys are never wise. After all, a fool and his money part quickly.....
With who? A handful of people still obsessed with events that happened years ago to a game that was mediocre to begin with? I'm not sure any developer even WANTS customers who will treat their mistakes and failures like atrocities and war crimes.
The game looks interesting, and if further news and info keeps my opinion positive, I'll likely give it a try. However, the game being on store shelves was the only way I'd ever try it, so in my case, signing with SOE dug them out of their grave, so to speak.
I agree with u 100%. seriously man all SOE is really is doing is helping them get more copies out to the world faster. its a win win.
Voted: No As so long as SOE earns a profit from subscription or sales, directly or indirectly, while offering no return incentive for past transgressions; then a boycott remains.
I'm in an inner conflict here: Never wanted to touch a game with SOE involved in again! But on the other hand: a historical, non-fantasy, seafaring and pirate MMOG is what I waited for all the time. So yes, I think I'll bite my tongue and try it...
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Everyone voting no is just pumping their chest and will be there the moment FL opens their beta. And if they don't, its because they're foolish and spiteful.
Rick Saada - FLS Dev & EPFBM
Rick Saada - FLS Dev & EPFBM
will not play it, POTBS dug its own grave.
With who? A handful of people still obsessed with events that happened years ago to a game that was mediocre to begin with? I'm not sure any developer even WANTS customers who will treat their mistakes and failures like atrocities and war crimes.
The game looks interesting, and if further news and info keeps my opinion positive, I'll likely give it a try. However, the game being on store shelves was the only way I'd ever try it, so in my case, signing with SOE dug them out of their grave, so to speak.
i have been betrayed often enought by the publisher
i see no reason to vote "yes" for this behavior with my wallet
Yes, i will try it, as long as the game's good i couldn't care less about who is publishing it. been waiting for a long time for a new non-fantasy MMO..
Rick Saada - FLS Dev & EPFBM
rub it in why don'tcha.
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Not knowing much about the state of the game (having read about it over a year ago), I read up on it on their web page and the wiki article.
It looks intriguing, even though I have no interest in the title. It looks just like Sid's Pirates online with a player-based economy.
SOE isn't a bad choice as a publisher as they handle things like billing and advertisements, at least on the face of things.
However, I suspect SOE offers to invest some money at some point and then begins exerting more control over the title. And they suck at managing MMORPGS. (In my opinion.) Then they wait for the title to stumble and buy it up for the stable.
I also think the title may be in trouble as they've been in development for ever it seems.
I'm also worried the game seems to have no depth. Like Sid's Pirates again without the dancing/courting thing added in the newest one.
*shrug*
I'd probably try it if the client were free and there were a free trial, but I really think I'd have no interest in it. Who knows, I could be surprised.
With who? A handful of people still obsessed with events that happened years ago to a game that was mediocre to begin with? I'm not sure any developer even WANTS customers who will treat their mistakes and failures like atrocities and war crimes.
The game looks interesting, and if further news and info keeps my opinion positive, I'll likely give it a try. However, the game being on store shelves was the only way I'd ever try it, so in my case, signing with SOE dug them out of their grave, so to speak.
I agree with u 100%. seriously man all SOE is really is doing is helping them get more copies out to the world faster. its a win win.
Voted yes but it prolly shoulda been a maybe. Do *I* intend to make the purchase when it hits the shelf, or maybe even pre-order? YES. My challenge lies in getting the woman to like it. As both of our computers are only mid-range I doubt we'll receive a Closed Beta invite so I am seriously hoping for an Open Beta or at least a Stress Test to get the opportunity to check out everything that has been said/written about PotBS thus far.
We got that chance with Vanguard with their Open Beta and after a few hours decided it wasn't for us and we went back to WoW. I'm hoping, nay prayin, nay... BEGGING AND PLEADING for something to take me away from WoW! Please oh please let it be PotBS!!!
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Any true fan of PotBS will play (or atleast try) the game regardless of who the publisher is. Since FLS got a contract that seemingly no one else has ever gotten (or is rare), and they keep control of their game, and they do their own customer service, then what does it matter who publishes?
PotBS started off as an indie mmorpg and theyve been adding new gameplay elements to it as time goes on, so the reason behind pushing the release date back was to include more content. Its gone from a mmo naval combat simulator made by a small indie developer to a fully fledged mmorpg that will run with the big dogs.
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I'll play it purely on the fact that it's not elves/orcs and magic.
SWG was bad but that game was barely working in the first place and from my personal experiances I haven't had anything bad happen to me with SOE.
SOE are simply the publishin house, nothing more ... I am not sure where the 'crawling' comes into ... Flying Labs were looking for a publishing house for some time and have agreed terms with SOE. I am guessing that you are not interested in the game and are only trying to flame it ...
Voted: No
As so long as SOE earns a profit from subscription or sales, directly or indirectly, while offering no return incentive for past transgressions; then a boycott remains.
And that is why...
Conservatives' pessimism is conducive to their happiness in three ways. First, they are rarely surprised -- they are right more often than not about the course of events. Second, when they are wrong they are happy to be so. Third, because pessimistic conservatives put not their faith in princes -- government -- they accept that happiness is a function of fending for oneself. They believe that happiness is an activity -- it is inseparable from the pursuit of happiness.
Went with maybe...this game hasn't really caught my interest, SOE's involvement plays no bearing on my decision however.
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i've been waiting for this game since last summer, and iv ben following their progress, and it looks like its gona be awesome. It doesnt make a difference in my mind that SOE is in the picture...
November 15, 2005.......the day it all went up in flames
Agreed. SOE's involvement would have no bearing on whether or not I tried a game. Piracy on the high seas just doesn't interest me on any capacity in an MMORPG context. Just my personal preference. Not saying the game is good or bad, just not my thing.
SWG was years ago and seems to have been just as much LucasArt's misdirection as it was SOE's. And remember, SOE saved V:SoH from certain death, so not sure why you'd hold that against them. The only SOE title I briefly tried (V:SoH) was a disastrous dud through no fault of Sony. Otherwise, none of their titles have caught my interest.
Granted, I'm a picky sonuvabitch, but none of their MMORPGs interest me enough to want to submerge myself in them, which is a must for the time investment MMORPGs require. If they pull that off someday, I wouldn't hesitate to give them a shot. Outside of EQ2, I think they tend to pick up licenses that would make better action games than RPGs. "Hey, I wanna be a jedi!" "Hey, I wanna do cool back flips like Keanu Reeves in the Matrix!" Nah.
Its as if they really WANNA make mainstream MMORPGs that'll appeal to a wide audience, and they have the financial resources to do so, but they just can't seal the deal. Maybe pirates will be their ace in the hole. YARRR!
i liked the idea of the game from the start, soe or not.. im trying this game for sure!
With who? A handful of people still obsessed with events that happened years ago to a game that was mediocre to begin with? I'm not sure any developer even WANTS customers who will treat their mistakes and failures like atrocities and war crimes.
Seriously, some people, many people here don't seem to realize that there exist such a thing as a bad customer, one that saps a company's resources and undermines it. With little return for that customer, it's best to show them the door.
You should be thankful for SOE's involvement then -- blind buys are never wise. After all, a fool and his money part quickly.....
With who? A handful of people still obsessed with events that happened years ago to a game that was mediocre to begin with? I'm not sure any developer even WANTS customers who will treat their mistakes and failures like atrocities and war crimes.
The game looks interesting, and if further news and info keeps my opinion positive, I'll likely give it a try. However, the game being on store shelves was the only way I'd ever try it, so in my case, signing with SOE dug them out of their grave, so to speak.
I agree with u 100%. seriously man all SOE is really is doing is helping them get more copies out to the world faster. its a win win.
Most likely.
I'm so broke. I can't even pay attention.
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QFT.
I'm in an inner conflict here: Never wanted to touch a game with SOE involved in again! But on the other hand: a historical, non-fantasy, seafaring and pirate MMOG is what I waited for all the time. So yes, I think I'll bite my tongue and try it...
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