I want to play games, watch movies, listen to music, that are made for an adult audience. I want enough freedom of expression that games exist that make me think "Oh, that goes too far for my tastes." Boobs aren't that. Heck, sexual scenes on par with R-rated movies wouldn't be too far for me. NaughtySheMale425 following me around and nakedly humping my leg constantly would be over the line. I mean sure, once or twice would be great, but CONSTANTLY? Nah, that'd be too much. Just let people's wallets decide, not some loudmouth Big Brother group's view of what is "acceptable".
But that means NEVER considering "the children"! We have games that consider "the children"... they're called KID'S GAMES!
If you're a parent, your kids are your problem. You wanted to have sex, now deal with the result. If I have to sacrifice my entertainment for your kids, the least you could do is pay me babysitting money. We are not a village. I'll do my part by not giving your kids candy or running them over with my car, you do your part by actually paying attention to them and what they do.
If the systems in place make it too easy for kids to experience adult content, ATTACK THE SYSTEMS and leave the adult content alone.
If you're just too lazy to pay attention to your kids and want all entertainment neutered so no kids or adults can ever see anything remotely mature, then do us all a favor and give your kids to someone who gives a damn. And get yourself sterilized while you're at it. Sadly, I had to take a test to drive a car but anyone who can locate Naughtyland on a map can have kids.
I love seeing people with no kids wax philosophical about what kind of parents they will be... I know when I was a kid I planned on eating Ice-cream for breakfast when I was grown, or maybe just a whole bowl of the marshmallows from the lucky charms, and watching nothing but cartoons all day long. Fortunately, we all grow up. One day you kids will grow up too and realize that there are things you want to shield your kids from... I'm willing to bet sexual content is pretty high on the list. I am a big fan of boobs, huge fan in fact. Beyond that, I am a non-theist.... still looks like a game I will pass on. The nudity is unnecessarily limiting to the game's potential audience. If Funcom believes it is worth alienating parents of young children just so a bunch of teenagers who have never seen a boob in real life can see a pair in their game, then I think they have a lesson to learn about who actually pays for the games they make. Personally, i doubt that the kind of content in that screenshot makes it out the door with anything less than an AO rating... I'm pretty sure the xbox version at least will launch sans-nudity.
I think everyone is blowing this WAY out of proportion. Think about it, this is all in our heads. We have been taught through society. . .erhm...escuse me....BRAINWASHED through society that nipples and breasts are sexual objects. WRONG. This is only in america. Go to Europe and you will find that breasts are within their very own commercials. America sugars everything beside violence for some reason. Maybe it's because we used violence to become the country we are? Kill Indians to be greedy.
Before clothing, all bible theories aside, there was no such thing as clothing. Humans walked around bare ass or close to it. The only reason to wear clothing was to stay warm. Womens breasts are a gift, they are an object that keep us alive. We feed off of them when we were children so we could stay alive and be strong. Like I've said, this whole "boobs oh my god!" thing is in your own head. How come it's ok for dudes to wear no shirts but women to? The only different is the size the rest of it is all in your head. Boobs are not a sexual object, it's just what we've been told they are. Whoever is up tight about this subject or gets embarrassed about this subject needs to honestly grow up, you are shunning against your own species. Nuff said.
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It's just like GTA3. People let their kids play GTA all day long until someone heard there was some nudity in it, then they couldn't believe our government was letting our kids play a game with s e x in it. Games get an 'M' rating to let you know not to buy it for your kiddies. For some reason running around killing cops with machine guns while stealing cars is just fine and dandy but watch out for those crazy hippie nudes running around.
BTW I'm an American, and we're not all religious prude asshats, although I will agree the majority is.
After fridays screenshot leaks there has been increasing amount of people whining they wont allow their kids to play with them if there was topless women running around... Hello!!!! ...you would let your kid play a game where you can chop off bodyparts from your enemies and where blood and gore is everywhere but if pair of breasts flash by it's an outrage? ...doublestandard much? I hope these people wont come to europe for family vacation...they would get eternal traumas from our streetcorner ads alone.
Actually haven't seen a post anywhere about people letting their kids play AOC. I have seen people say they won't but AOC because they don't feel comfortable playing with kids in the same room.
People want to throw some blanket value system comparing violence and nudity while they promote there own anglophile superior value system , without ever acknowlegding the difference in context that violence and nudity have with in a game system. The violence in AOC seems to be a kin to most PG-13 movies which I would allow most pre-teens to view. I would not, however allow children to see saw, hostage, ect. the same is true about the nudity. I have no problem with preteens seeing Dian keaton nude in some thing like "somethings got to give" but I'm not going to let them watch 9 1/2 weeks either. The nudity in AOC comes in the backdrop of prostitution, slavery, sacrafices, demon worship and other forms of subjection (as common in the world of Conan) it isn't meerly a flash of some boob.
I am willing to bet that most ofthe people complaining that there are people who recognise this difference in context are the same people who would/are complaining about youth having no discipline/boundries/respect.
I love seeing people with no kids wax philosophical about what kind of parents they will be... I know when I was a kid I planned on eating Ice-cream for breakfast when I was grown, or maybe just a whole bowl of the marshmallows from the lucky charms, and watching nothing but cartoons all day long. Fortunately, we all grow up. One day you kids will grow up too and realize that there are things you want to shield your kids from... I'm willing to bet sexual content is pretty high on the list. I am a big fan of boobs, huge fan in fact. Beyond that, I am a non-theist.... still looks like a game I will pass on. The nudity is unnecessarily limiting to the game's potential audience. If Funcom believes it is worth alienating parents of young children just so a bunch of teenagers who have never seen a boob in real life can see a pair in their game, then I think they have a lesson to learn about who actually pays for the games they make. Personally, i doubt that the kind of content in that screenshot makes it out the door with anything less than an AO rating... I'm pretty sure the xbox version at least will launch sans-nudity.
The average videogamer is 33 years old, for MMO's it's 26 and 75% of MMO players are over 18. The average age of game buyers is 40 and (which I think is nifty) 25% of over 50s in the US play video games.
Never underestimate marketing practices. It's on the experience of generations of greedy businessmen that they make these decisions and I can assure you, they are far more informed about thier target demographic then you'll ever be.
The average videogamer is 33 years old, for MMO's it's 26 and 75% of MMO players are over 18. The average age of game buyers is 40 and (which I think is nifty) 25% of over 50s in the US play video games.
Never underestimate marketing practices. It's on the experience of generations of greedy businessmen that they make these decisions and I can assure you, they are far more informed about thier target demographic then you'll ever be.
I don't know if you are arguing with me or agreeing with me... but for the record, I am that target demographic. I am a 33 year old male gamer with a reasonable amount of disposable income. I'm pretty sure I fit within their target demographic.
Adults pay for video games, not teenagers and and very young adults. Their target audience has kids. The data you posted seems to back my point up more than serve to refute it. I'll tell you what I do know about American parents of young children... without rationalizing it or attempting to justify it, we are generally more comfortable with our kids being exposed to computer generated violence than computer generated nudity. It doesn't matter if you agree with or understand that view, but I think we can all agree that it's a fact.
I realize the game isn't aimed at kids, but if it launches with abundant exposed breasts, I won't play it. Not because I dislike boobs myself, but because my computer is one of 4 in the room, two of them belong my children.
The average videogamer is 33 years old, for MMO's it's 26 and 75% of MMO players are over 18. The average age of game buyers is 40 and (which I think is nifty) 25% of over 50s in the US play video games.
Never underestimate marketing practices. It's on the experience of generations of greedy businessmen that they make these decisions and I can assure you, they are far more informed about thier target demographic then you'll ever be.
I don't know if you are arguing with me or agreeing with me... but for the record, I am that target demographic. I am a 33 year old male gamer with a reasonable amount of disposable income. I'm pretty sure I fit within their target demographic.
Adults pay for video games, not teenagers and and very young adults. Their target audience has kids. The data you posted seems to back my point up more than serve to refute it. I'll tell you what I do know about American parents of young children... without rationalizing it or attempting to justify it, we are generally more comfortable with our kids being exposed to computer generated violence than computer generated nudity. It doesn't matter if you agree with or understand that view, but I think we can all agree that it's a fact.
I realize the game isn't aimed at kids, but if it launches with abundant exposed breasts, I won't play it. Not because I dislike boobs myself, but because my computer is one of 4 in the room, two of them belong my children.
Ok, if you can't understand my post dont fret, I now know I was in error for expecting you to.
Just for future reference though, typing "Thier target audience has kids" and following up later with "I realize the game isn't aimed at kids" isn't the way to make a point, unless that point is that you have no idea what a target audience is.
I never got it ethier, parents will let their children see people getting their eye's ripped out, people disembowled and even decapiatation but as soon as it comes to some breasts its ZOMG no. Imagine If they had vag jay jays and penors in the game.. people in the US wouldn't even sell it. I never understood people fear of the human body... I blame religion.
I dont know about blaming religion.. but the US is one of the few countries that has it totally backwards. Sex is natural people! Violence isnt! You should be more worried your child is decapitating people!
I really don't think that putting boobies in this game will solve the comminity problems that have plagued MMORPGs from the beginning of time. Yeah sure, it's gonna keep the underaged kiddies away, because their mum and dad won't buy the game (i still think that they'll find a way to get the game) , but what about the legal aged dumbasses? I mean, the only woman they actually saw in the past 20 years was their mom, so i have no doubt that they will fly to the polygonal funbags like flies to a fresh steaming pile of crap. So instead of the likes of L33Tb0y666 ( trust me though, there will be the likes of him) you will see the likes of Hottgrrl20, Sexiboobs11one11elven1 and etc. Why do you think asian MMORPGs are so popular? Big shiny weapons, and armours (e-peens) for kiddies and big shiny boobies for our basement dwelling, possesion ebaying friends.
I never got it ethier, parents will let their children see people getting their eye's ripped out, people disembowled and even decapiatation but as soon as it comes to some breasts its ZOMG no. Imagine If they had vag jay jays and penors in the game.. people in the US wouldn't even sell it. I never understood people fear of the human body... I blame religion.
I dont know about blaming religion.. but the US is one of the few countries that has it totally backwards. Sex is natural people! Violence isnt! You should be more worried your child is decapitating people!
ROFL! Violence isn't natural? What planet do you live on?
Violence is about as natrual as it gets. I want what you have so I kill you to take it. That's the way it works in nature, including human interactions. Some of us have discovered that working together is better in the long run, but much of the world is still violent and scary.
Don't ever fool yourself that we don't have violence in our genes.
The average videogamer is 33 years old, for MMO's it's 26 and 75% of MMO players are over 18. The average age of game buyers is 40 and (which I think is nifty) 25% of over 50s in the US play video games.
Never underestimate marketing practices. It's on the experience of generations of greedy businessmen that they make these decisions and I can assure you, they are far more informed about thier target demographic then you'll ever be.
I don't know if you are arguing with me or agreeing with me... but for the record, I am that target demographic. I am a 33 year old male gamer with a reasonable amount of disposable income. I'm pretty sure I fit within their target demographic.
Adults pay for video games, not teenagers and and very young adults. Their target audience has kids. The data you posted seems to back my point up more than serve to refute it. I'll tell you what I do know about American parents of young children... without rationalizing it or attempting to justify it, we are generally more comfortable with our kids being exposed to computer generated violence than computer generated nudity. It doesn't matter if you agree with or understand that view, but I think we can all agree that it's a fact.
I realize the game isn't aimed at kids, but if it launches with abundant exposed breasts, I won't play it. Not because I dislike boobs myself, but because my computer is one of 4 in the room, two of them belong my children.
Ok, if you can't understand my post dont fret, I now know I was in error for expecting you to.
Just for future reference though, typing "Thier target audience has kids" and following up later with "I realize the game isn't aimed at kids" isn't the way to make a point, unless that point is that you have no idea what a target audience is.
Right, you shouldn't have expected me to understand your post, at least we agree on that. Letting people know ahead of time that you often make no sense, and that you have poor reading comprehension skills, might be a good idea in the future. Don't worry though, I'm a patient guy, and have a little bit of experience working with the learning disabled, so I'll clear up the part that was so hard for you to understand. I did not say their target audience includes kids, I said their target audience HAS kids, as in "their target audience is made up of people with children". So once again, although the game is not target toward children, it is target toward people who have children. I, like a lot of parents of young children, try to refrain from running content on my computer that contains nudity in the presence of said young children.
BTW, just because you don't agree with me, there is no reason to be a d-bag.
The average videogamer is 33 years old, for MMO's it's 26 and 75% of MMO players are over 18. The average age of game buyers is 40 and (which I think is nifty) 25% of over 50s in the US play video games.
Never underestimate marketing practices. It's on the experience of generations of greedy businessmen that they make these decisions and I can assure you, they are far more informed about thier target demographic then you'll ever be.
Source for this data? Don't go listing numbers without a source, you have absolutly no credit. This is especially true when you've also insult sombody in the same post.
And just for the record. Saying "the ESA said this" means jack squat to me. They dont list there methods. For all we know, they could have had a sample size of 100 and the questions could have been biased.
Buuuuut, if you really want to argue using their questionable stats. 31% are under the age of 18, so they make up a VERY sizeable chunk.. 25% are apparently over 50. that makes 57% who are probably either not into over violence, or are too "young" for conan.
in all honesty. I dont really trust those stats, they say nothing for the method or how many people took the survey or anything.
For all we know they took it in an EBgames and have a truncated range of people. This is more just for entertainment value than to actually prove much. If anything its probably manipulated to help further their own agenda.
Edit: as well, as far as I could read, the data was from 2005. So its also rather outdated.
after 6 or so years, I had to change it a little...
You're not seriously discussing tits in an MMO now, right? LOL....
If you ever come to Europe meet me and we'll watch 6 pm beer commercials...
I remember this one guy that visited me and my family few years ago (I was probably 17), from Lousisiana. So this one evening he said "Hey, your parents aren't at home right? We can watch naked people on the internet." And I'm like "erm, yeah, if you want." So we browsed through these porn sites and my dad got home. And my dad was like "hey cool, I never knew this site, add it to my bookmarks when you're done"...
You guys should have seen the face of our american guest. You could literally see a world crumbling...
Or like the movie Ken Park, some people told me it had been banned in the US and I was like "ok, whatever, let's watch it". And it shows some teenagers having sex in the end and a guy masturbating. And I was like WTF!, I was expecting like torture scenes and humiliation and slavery and all this nasty stuff you get sick even when you think about it...
And then, nothing, some teens experiencing bodily love... Oh boy...
As for the parents who allow their children to see/watch things innappropriate to their age: Take some responsibliity.
Its bad enough that we have as much censorship in the US as we do, but if a game has a Mature rating... read the label. If you read the label and buy it anyway for your 12 year old, then you are approving of the game's content. If you didn't read the label, then you should take the blame.
It would only be the game makers fault if they mislabled their product.
For some reason, I feel I should point out to some people that the nudity taboo among parents over the gaming industry has really only started up in the past decade, with the advancement of graphics and enlargement of the Internet. (If I'm wrong about this statement, someone please correct me)
Plenty of games have flown in under the radar before. An example is Diablo I. The succubi were topless and wearing g-strings, and yes, you could see their nipples. Quest For Glory IV had a nearly topless women. Remember (for those who played it) the lady in the lake? Only reason you couldn't see her boobs fully was because of her hair. I'm sure there are plenty of other games that have nude and nearly nude shots in them that parents have absolutely no idea about.
I am very indifferent to nudity in games and other media. In Conan I don't think the preasence of nudity will effect the game at all, clothed or not the game will still play the same, no better or worse, unless it is so much that I feel that I am being bombarded by it. And if Conan was strickly a single player game I wouldn't even consider nudity when purchasing the game.
But Conan is an MMO, and when I have to play a game with both gore and nudity with many other people I don't walk but run away. Though I know funcom's intention is to make the game for a more mature audience, gore and nudity is not the way to do it, all that attracts is every inmature person on the internet. And when i say inmature, I do not mean young kids, they probably shouldn't be playing mature rated games anyway, I mean anyone of any age that gets their jollies by looking at partially nude women and decapitations, preferably at the same time. I fear that this would attract every leet speaking, Hot Coffee Mod playing tool out there if this game becomes popular. I hope I am speaking nothing but empty prophecy and Conan will get the right kind of media attention it derserves, because the game looks good.
Don't you worry little buddy. You're dealing with a man of honor. However, honor requires a higher percentage of profit
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F*** THE CHILDREN
Umm, no, wrong connotation.
IGNORE THE CHILDREN.
Excellent.
I want to play games, watch movies, listen to music, that are made for an adult audience. I want enough freedom of expression that games exist that make me think "Oh, that goes too far for my tastes." Boobs aren't that. Heck, sexual scenes on par with R-rated movies wouldn't be too far for me. NaughtySheMale425 following me around and nakedly humping my leg constantly would be over the line. I mean sure, once or twice would be great, but CONSTANTLY? Nah, that'd be too much. Just let people's wallets decide, not some loudmouth Big Brother group's view of what is "acceptable".
But that means NEVER considering "the children"! We have games that consider "the children"... they're called KID'S GAMES!
If you're a parent, your kids are your problem. You wanted to have sex, now deal with the result. If I have to sacrifice my entertainment for your kids, the least you could do is pay me babysitting money. We are not a village. I'll do my part by not giving your kids candy or running them over with my car, you do your part by actually paying attention to them and what they do.
If the systems in place make it too easy for kids to experience adult content, ATTACK THE SYSTEMS and leave the adult content alone.
If you're just too lazy to pay attention to your kids and want all entertainment neutered so no kids or adults can ever see anything remotely mature, then do us all a favor and give your kids to someone who gives a damn. And get yourself sterilized while you're at it. Sadly, I had to take a test to drive a car but anyone who can locate Naughtyland on a map can have kids.
Lastly,
I HATE YOUR CHILDREN.
No, wait, that's not right.
I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR CHILDREN!
Yeah, that's better.
Before clothing, all bible theories aside, there was no such thing as clothing. Humans walked around bare ass or close to it. The only reason to wear clothing was to stay warm. Womens breasts are a gift, they are an object that keep us alive. We feed off of them when we were children so we could stay alive and be strong. Like I've said, this whole "boobs oh my god!" thing is in your own head. How come it's ok for dudes to wear no shirts but women to? The only different is the size the rest of it is all in your head. Boobs are not a sexual object, it's just what we've been told they are. Whoever is up tight about this subject or gets embarrassed about this subject needs to honestly grow up, you are shunning against your own species. Nuff said.
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Well I am not sure boobs are why it will be a Mature rating, but topless women are in all sorts of PG13 movies that are available.
It is only cartoon boobs that seem to require a mature rating. Go figure.
Look at every console/pc game that shows a boob, they all get the M rating.
People have a skewed view that cartoons are for kids, and even most of humanity knows that is not true.
And people equate animation of any type with cartoons. The world is full of stupid people and they must be punished.
It's just like GTA3. People let their kids play GTA all day long until someone heard there was some nudity in it, then they couldn't believe our government was letting our kids play a game with s e x in it. Games get an 'M' rating to let you know not to buy it for your kiddies. For some reason running around killing cops with machine guns while stealing cars is just fine and dandy but watch out for those crazy hippie nudes running around.
BTW I'm an American, and we're not all religious prude asshats, although I will agree the majority is.
Pardon me my good man, could you direct me to the Black Ring Citadel?
Actually haven't seen a post anywhere about people letting their kids play AOC. I have seen people say they won't but AOC because they don't feel comfortable playing with kids in the same room.
People want to throw some blanket value system comparing violence and nudity while they promote there own anglophile superior value system , without ever acknowlegding the difference in context that violence and nudity have with in a game system. The violence in AOC seems to be a kin to most PG-13 movies which I would allow most pre-teens to view. I would not, however allow children to see saw, hostage, ect. the same is true about the nudity. I have no problem with preteens seeing Dian keaton nude in some thing like "somethings got to give" but I'm not going to let them watch 9 1/2 weeks either. The nudity in AOC comes in the backdrop of prostitution, slavery, sacrafices, demon worship and other forms of subjection (as common in the world of Conan) it isn't meerly a flash of some boob.
I am willing to bet that most ofthe people complaining that there are people who recognise this difference in context are the same people who would/are complaining about youth having no discipline/boundries/respect.
Never underestimate marketing practices. It's on the experience of generations of greedy businessmen that they make these decisions and I can assure you, they are far more informed about thier target demographic then you'll ever be.
Adults pay for video games, not teenagers and and very young adults. Their target audience has kids. The data you posted seems to back my point up more than serve to refute it. I'll tell you what I do know about American parents of young children... without rationalizing it or attempting to justify it, we are generally more comfortable with our kids being exposed to computer generated violence than computer generated nudity. It doesn't matter if you agree with or understand that view, but I think we can all agree that it's a fact.
I realize the game isn't aimed at kids, but if it launches with abundant exposed breasts, I won't play it. Not because I dislike boobs myself, but because my computer is one of 4 in the room, two of them belong my children.
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Adults pay for video games, not teenagers and and very young adults. Their target audience has kids. The data you posted seems to back my point up more than serve to refute it. I'll tell you what I do know about American parents of young children... without rationalizing it or attempting to justify it, we are generally more comfortable with our kids being exposed to computer generated violence than computer generated nudity. It doesn't matter if you agree with or understand that view, but I think we can all agree that it's a fact.
I realize the game isn't aimed at kids, but if it launches with abundant exposed breasts, I won't play it. Not because I dislike boobs myself, but because my computer is one of 4 in the room, two of them belong my children.
Ok, if you can't understand my post dont fret, I now know I was in error for expecting you to.
Just for future reference though, typing "Thier target audience has kids" and following up later with "I realize the game isn't aimed at kids" isn't the way to make a point, unless that point is that you have no idea what a target audience is.
I dont know about blaming religion.. but the US is one of the few countries that has it totally backwards. Sex is natural people! Violence isnt! You should be more worried your child is decapitating people!
I really don't think that putting boobies in this game will solve the comminity problems that have plagued MMORPGs from the beginning of time. Yeah sure, it's gonna keep the underaged kiddies away, because their mum and dad won't buy the game (i still think that they'll find a way to get the game) , but what about the legal aged dumbasses? I mean, the only woman they actually saw in the past 20 years was their mom, so i have no doubt that they will fly to the polygonal funbags like flies to a fresh steaming pile of crap. So instead of the likes of L33Tb0y666 ( trust me though, there will be the likes of him) you will see the likes of Hottgrrl20, Sexiboobs11one11elven1 and etc. Why do you think asian MMORPGs are so popular? Big shiny weapons, and armours (e-peens) for kiddies and big shiny boobies for our basement dwelling, possesion ebaying friends.
THE TOMATO IS NOT A FRUIT, DAMN IT!!!
Aha, so that "mountable breasts" quote was not a typo after all
Hail DnDOnlinegames!
I dont know about blaming religion.. but the US is one of the few countries that has it totally backwards. Sex is natural people! Violence isnt! You should be more worried your child is decapitating people!
ROFL! Violence isn't natural? What planet do you live on?
Violence is about as natrual as it gets. I want what you have so I kill you to take it. That's the way it works in nature, including human interactions. Some of us have discovered that working together is better in the long run, but much of the world is still violent and scary.
Don't ever fool yourself that we don't have violence in our genes.
Adults pay for video games, not teenagers and and very young adults. Their target audience has kids. The data you posted seems to back my point up more than serve to refute it. I'll tell you what I do know about American parents of young children... without rationalizing it or attempting to justify it, we are generally more comfortable with our kids being exposed to computer generated violence than computer generated nudity. It doesn't matter if you agree with or understand that view, but I think we can all agree that it's a fact.
I realize the game isn't aimed at kids, but if it launches with abundant exposed breasts, I won't play it. Not because I dislike boobs myself, but because my computer is one of 4 in the room, two of them belong my children.
Ok, if you can't understand my post dont fret, I now know I was in error for expecting you to.
Just for future reference though, typing "Thier target audience has kids" and following up later with "I realize the game isn't aimed at kids" isn't the way to make a point, unless that point is that you have no idea what a target audience is.
Right, you shouldn't have expected me to understand your post, at least we agree on that. Letting people know ahead of time that you often make no sense, and that you have poor reading comprehension skills, might be a good idea in the future. Don't worry though, I'm a patient guy, and have a little bit of experience working with the learning disabled, so I'll clear up the part that was so hard for you to understand. I did not say their target audience includes kids, I said their target audience HAS kids, as in "their target audience is made up of people with children". So once again, although the game is not target toward children, it is target toward people who have children. I, like a lot of parents of young children, try to refrain from running content on my computer that contains nudity in the presence of said young children.
BTW, just because you don't agree with me, there is no reason to be a d-bag.
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Originally posted by Nyran
The average videogamer is 33 years old, for MMO's it's 26 and 75% of MMO players are over 18. The average age of game buyers is 40 and (which I think is nifty) 25% of over 50s in the US play video games.Never underestimate marketing practices. It's on the experience of generations of greedy businessmen that they make these decisions and I can assure you, they are far more informed about thier target demographic then you'll ever be.
Source for this data? Don't go listing numbers without a source, you have absolutly no credit. This is especially true when you've also insult sombody in the same post.
And just for the record. Saying "the ESA said this" means jack squat to me. They dont list there methods. For all we know, they could have had a sample size of 100 and the questions could have been biased.
Buuuuut, if you really want to argue using their questionable stats. 31% are under the age of 18, so they make up a VERY sizeable chunk.. 25% are apparently over 50. that makes 57% who are probably either not into over violence, or are too "young" for conan.
in all honesty. I dont really trust those stats, they say nothing for the method or how many people took the survey or anything.
For all we know they took it in an EBgames and have a truncated range of people. This is more just for entertainment value than to actually prove much. If anything its probably manipulated to help further their own agenda.
Edit: as well, as far as I could read, the data was from 2005. So its also rather outdated.
after 6 or so years, I had to change it a little...
You're not seriously discussing tits in an MMO now, right? LOL....
If you ever come to Europe meet me and we'll watch 6 pm beer commercials...
I remember this one guy that visited me and my family few years ago (I was probably 17), from Lousisiana. So this one evening he said "Hey, your parents aren't at home right? We can watch naked people on the internet." And I'm like "erm, yeah, if you want." So we browsed through these porn sites and my dad got home. And my dad was like "hey cool, I never knew this site, add it to my bookmarks when you're done"...
You guys should have seen the face of our american guest. You could literally see a world crumbling...
Or like the movie Ken Park, some people told me it had been banned in the US and I was like "ok, whatever, let's watch it". And it shows some teenagers having sex in the end and a guy masturbating. And I was like WTF!, I was expecting like torture scenes and humiliation and slavery and all this nasty stuff you get sick even when you think about it...
And then, nothing, some teens experiencing bodily love... Oh boy...
Meridion
i agree completely, plus this game is meant for old people anyways so go away kiddies
Going to play and enjoy this game anyway.
<- 15 years old.
O'rly.
i am currently 16 and still gona play it but that still dont mean i will act like a 10 year old
Always do the right thing
Fear not the boobs! Embrace them instead!
As for the parents who allow their children to see/watch things innappropriate to their age: Take some responsibliity.
Its bad enough that we have as much censorship in the US as we do, but if a game has a Mature rating... read the label. If you read the label and buy it anyway for your 12 year old, then you are approving of the game's content. If you didn't read the label, then you should take the blame.
It would only be the game makers fault if they mislabled their product.
Personally, I look forward to this game!
For some reason, I feel I should point out to some people that the nudity taboo among parents over the gaming industry has really only started up in the past decade, with the advancement of graphics and enlargement of the Internet. (If I'm wrong about this statement, someone please correct me)
Plenty of games have flown in under the radar before. An example is Diablo I. The succubi were topless and wearing g-strings, and yes, you could see their nipples. Quest For Glory IV had a nearly topless women. Remember (for those who played it) the lady in the lake? Only reason you couldn't see her boobs fully was because of her hair. I'm sure there are plenty of other games that have nude and nearly nude shots in them that parents have absolutely no idea about.
I am very indifferent to nudity in games and other media. In Conan I don't think the preasence of nudity will effect the game at all, clothed or not the game will still play the same, no better or worse, unless it is so much that I feel that I am being bombarded by it. And if Conan was strickly a single player game I wouldn't even consider nudity when purchasing the game.
But Conan is an MMO, and when I have to play a game with both gore and nudity with many other people I don't walk but run away. Though I know funcom's intention is to make the game for a more mature audience, gore and nudity is not the way to do it, all that attracts is every inmature person on the internet. And when i say inmature, I do not mean young kids, they probably shouldn't be playing mature rated games anyway, I mean anyone of any age that gets their jollies by looking at partially nude women and decapitations, preferably at the same time. I fear that this would attract every leet speaking, Hot Coffee Mod playing tool out there if this game becomes popular. I hope I am speaking nothing but empty prophecy and Conan will get the right kind of media attention it derserves, because the game looks good.
Don't you worry little buddy. You're dealing with a man of honor. However, honor requires a higher percentage of profit
That is all.
The question is more of: why did it take so long before we got a european MMO with gore and mature nudity?
If you can show blood you can show naked bodies, or what is the problem???