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Lol at WoW. I would like to see this chart a few months after the new expansion comes out.
the chart on wow is insane.... it doesn't even looked like it has peaked, rising so quickly..... it trully has become more than a mmorpg. It should be called something else a genre in it's own right now.
And if blizzard keeps making new special "language packs" it'll be interesting how far blizzard can go, they sure have the money to do it all now, hence the funky commercials they also had with old and well known actors.
I still want to see Jackie Chan and Chuck Norris in those and we can trully say, "you got the WoW!".
The upcoming mmorpgs won't even dent wow really, they are all a niche, no offense, even though i'm looking forward to AoC (sorta, with all the grim news from beta i'm beginning to lose hope), also you should consider the rather special part here, i know it will sound stupid in many people's head here but WoW attract alot of women aswell and you can also see it has a sense of trendsetting in the game now and certain "items" are more of a luxury and "LOOK AT MEE!", Phoenix mount being the ultimate attention object, along with flashy armor.
Just a shame blizzard delayed thier expac so much, they talked about an expac once a year but it now looks more like once every 2nd year, which isn't a bad sign just means they still care for high quality and finished product.
But i think they should make another chart without WoW on it, kinda hard to see the numbers on the others with the sub chart, so a 2nd more detailed for the lower ones would have been nice.
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
I find it interesting that LOTRO has the exact same game mechanics as WoW and plays just the same, and yet Eve online has a bigger population than it.
Wow to WoW!
I think it's amazing that anyone gives this site any credibility...at all.
How depressing. I mean, not that WOW isnt totally bollocks, but its certainly not such a great MMO to deserve this. I really hope someday WOW goes back to the oblivion it should. ><
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
Glancing at the numbers they look very accurate to me!
Glancing at the numbers they look very accurate to me!
LOL! based on what???
Your guesses of what populations are???
They should seem accurate if so, because that's what his numbers are based on. Only a small number of games actually release their subscription numbers. Only a small number of developers are publicly held companies who even release their financial data. This means that all of the games that don't release either, he's gathering data from...
"anonymous sources" and "educated guesses".
p.s. If this information was so easy to obtain in ANY accurate fashion, do you really think NPD would be charging 35 thousand dollars a year for their new service...
That chart seems fine to me if you include the version without WoW in it that way everything isn't bunched together at the bottom.
http://www.mmogchart.com/Chart2.html
Another great example of Moore's Law. Give people access to that much space (developers and users alike) and they'll find uses for it that you can never imagine. "640K ought to be enough for anybody" - Bill Gates 1981
Alright I believe they are completely bogus and nowhere near accurate...I'm saying they look more accurate than not. Some games allow you to see the number of people on a server and stuff and I'm sure there are algorithms that can be used to get a rough estimate of subscriptions based on concurrent users. I'm sure some are educated guesses but doesnt mean you discredit the whole thing. And yes runescape sadly is most likely number 2 in market share and the almighty EvE is a niche market.
OK, let's just move on to Bruce Woodcock then. Two years of a 4 year degree and zero MMO industry experience hardly qualifies him to do any of those algorithms or even to have educated guesses. Although the assistant manager trainee position at the comic book store was pretty impressive.
This is an MMO fan with a web doman and excel.
it's not the MMO bible.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Woodcock_%28computer_games_analyst%29
EQ2 fan sites
OK, he's an MMO fan with excel...and 3 million dollars
"Those who dislike things based only on the fact that they are popular are just as shallow and superficial as those who only like them for the same reason."
I have absolutely no idea i can only comment on the games I'm familiar with and Tabula Rasa is not one of those.
Another great example of Moore's Law. Give people access to that much space (developers and users alike) and they'll find uses for it that you can never imagine. "640K ought to be enough for anybody" - Bill Gates 1981
QFT.
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JonMichael
Currently: AION, an MMO Beta under NDA
Played: WAR, LOTRO, Hellgate: London, CoX, GW, SotNW, DAOC, EQ2, SWG, WoW, AO, Horizons, Second Life, There, TSO
Beta'd: There, Second Life, EQ2, DAOC:LotM, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, Gods and Heroes, Hellgate: London, Requiem:Bloodymare, AoC, WAR, DDO, Fallen Earth
Having not played WoW, I can't compare it to LOTRO, but as a general [Bedford Forest?] once said," Be the Firstest with the Mostest" if you want to win
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retarded numbers, and not because I don't believe them...
I find it funny how many people just write off the site like its some 16 year old kid sitting in his mothers basement making up numbers that please him.
This website is just a guess and I mean I don't see why people view it because most mmorpg developers don't even give out their numbers and someone starts a rumour of how many players a mmorpg has like "OMG SWG has 90k subs" and it's like that number is pulled out of thin air and sudenly people believe it.
Tbh this site is aload of crap.
Apart from age and location how's it different exactly?
Well obviously 10 million people playing WOW don't think so and i'd have to agree because WOW offers polish and quality which the other mmorpgs don't and sure you could get a mmorpg with great features like EQ2 has guild levels and achievements but.... it lacks fun and good PVP and has crappy plastic bland graphics.
WOW just has abit of everything and polishes it off well.
Lets see: Wow has
More variety in classes (as LOTR is limited by IP)
More variety in locations (as LOTR is limited by IP)
More varirty in mobs (as in LOTR you kill the same bears/wovles/goblins etc etc)
More varity in dungeons
More varity in loot
More varity in gameplay (having a more advanced and interesting PvP system).....
If Turbine had gone for the more Middle Earth:Online format...and made it less like WoW...it would have been better for them.
I do not think these numbers are accuracte as well. Guild wars was not even on there and I know they have a good portion of those players. Though adding them in may be a bit more difficult since they do not have a monthly fee. Their numbers would have to be calculated by purchases. But the sheer number of people you see playing it 24 hours a day 7 days a week makes it obvious there are alot of people playing it.
I don't believe he includes any games which do not require a monthly fee. Although I can't say for sure his reasons, I would suspect it has something to do with the fact that it's very hard to get an accurate number of monthly subscribers if those subscribers don't pay anything to play. Why? Because if they don't pay a monthly fee, how do you know if they are active or not? Basically in Guild Wars, once you have an account, you have an account for the rest of your life. There's no reason to "cancel" a subscription you do not pay for. Paid subscriptions are much different. Once you quit playing, you cancel your subscription.
I looked all over the site and could not find the Accuracy Ratings. Or, how he came by the number that is listed.
This guy just looks at PR releases and financial reports and in a lot of cases guesses.
If you believe LotRO is at 1 million subscribers then do the video game industry a favor and destroy your computer.