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This announcement makes or breaks this game for me.
stunna182
Member Posts: 3
I have played lotro since open beta and now have a 50 hunter. My kinship has finished all end game content and has geared every one of our players in full rift armor for about a month now. This game has sooo much potential its crazy. The graphics are amazing, the deed system and titles are pretty cool, and the end game raids are fun. But of course this game lacks a severe amount of content.
I am to the point of canceling my subscription because of the lack of pvp and overall content it offers. I am hoping turbine is gonna come through with an all new expansion with new raids overhauled pvp and SOMETHING TO ACTUALLY DO. People have nothing left to accomplish in this game once they finish all the content which quite honestly doesn't take very long.
The PVP in this game stinks. It's almost the point of calling it non-existent. The ettenmoor's is a great idea but my god open world pvp is where its at and what people consistently ask for in mmo's. A playable race of orcs they say doesnt fit in with what they want to accomplish with this game 
. Now I know that idea has been thrown out there but lets see turbine dare to dream and give the people what they want and something called content for a game that could be one of the best mmo's on the market. It can compete with AoC and WAR when they come out if they give this game what it needs a major content add and pvp overhaul.
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Aye, I fully agree...
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I agree and i Disagree i mean yeah it could use more content and things to do at End game but i also like to roleplay and enjoy just getting on and socialising and holding player based events e.t.c so as a person who would like to succeed yea hgive me more content but as for the other part it is as good as it gets. Im not a big PVP player so i could care less for that but i can see where alot of ppl come from this game is not based on the story of the One Ring but an entirely new adventure of the people that inhabit the lands so i cannot see why There could not be a story driven monster side to things where you level your own char up i know there were other battles going on behind the Story that drives the movie so why can that not be implemented? im not saying that they have to make the creeps have a twist to the game that allows them to be the winners but im sure people would appreciate being able to play there creep from the ground up it would give more reason to play the PvMP. For the Sake of the Game and to pull more numbers to this title i hope something is done along these lines heck i could even grow to like PvMP if i felt i had a reason to do it.
That is exactly why I left my accounts idle for months, life-time membership accounts.
I erred on rushing too hard, as the game was so addictive. I ended up have 5x max-cap, max-crafting (GM) characters, and I have nothing else to do. Raiding was not my cup of tea, and after a couple months, I lost interest. PVP, err, as was well said above, we need the bad side open to us to play. Unless they open up the rest of the Middle earth, there is very little incentive to go back.
If they open the maps for Isengard, Rohen and Mordor, there will be vast areas for exploration.
It might need more content (I play it as a casual game and only have my character to 40 so I haven't really seen all) but the pvp the way it is implemented is fine.
What they can do is as the map grows and as you have areas where it makes sense to have contested areas, they can then expand that to allow the Monster characters to enter. Remember, as the game is created, it follows the book of the Lord of the Rings and more precisely the fellowship. Because of this world pvp makes absolutely no sense. Sorry.
you can't have orcs camping the shire nor can you have hobbits eventually griefing outside of Mordor. THAT is why I think the game is good. Because it actually has some integrity.
So, I respectfully disagree on that point.
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I too have a lifetime sub, but my highest level is only 21, mainly due to the fact that I also play guild wars and NwN 1, NwN2, console games, etc. I often times take long breaks from an MMO's or rpg, and jump back and forth between games. So for me, I can handle the wait for new content as I'm not anywhere near end game.. But I've also got four other characters in LOTRO to work on as well.
Were I a hardcore gamer though, I'm 100% sure I'd be right there with you all, bored and ready to move on to another game.
Ettermore as the only zone of contest is also less than perfect. The bad side was able to harass the fellowship throughout the entire trip. Rohan got orc activities all over. Even the shire is not perfectly safe. The Nazgul ran thru it, to Bree. I hope that as we got the maps for Rohan we got more intensive PVP. Oh well, maybe by then I will be in WAR. I don't know. Deep inside, I still love LOTRo. Its one of the games with the best potential for a great PVE experience. Its just that the maps are being opened up too slowly.
Iv'e come from WoW and i'm sick of the game really. I feel that to play it and keep up with everyone, you need to make it your full time job. , we dont want to draw that kind of people in.
And putting in world pvp would not work either, since it would need a change in the games basic design and foundations... and more people would leave then thay would gain...
Playing: World of Warcraft.
Played: Lord of the Rings Online, Starwars Galaxies.
Tried: Starwars the Old Republic, Everquest 2, Guild Wars, Vanguard, Age of Conan, Aion.
Intense gamers will burn through any content quicker then a new content can be put in.
LOTRO was announced, presented and sold as a PvE game with a separate small PvP component. The reasoning besind the decision was that PvE, as proven by numerous games, has more followers than PvP. That is not what people involved in PvP want to hear.
LOTRO was not intended to compete with PvP/RvR orineted games as AoC and WAR. It is a seaprate niche and it still remains to be seen how well AoC and WAR will do on the market.
Personally I am more than satisfied with LOTRO as a MMO incarnation of Tolkien's work and as a PvE oriented game. I would like to balance it with a quality PvP title but I was not able to do so and therefore my dissatisfaction is with current PvP games.
The only thing I was afraid of,for starting lotro is the end game content and pvp.
Let's wait and see.
The journey is pretty good 1-50(quests and story) but the combat system is boring as hell (I had to take a break for 2 months around level 32 or something) Class system is also very "cookie-cutter" and once you are level 50 theres nothing to do.
Crafting-system was simple and grindy (Armoursmith takes way too many different kinds of crap at the last tiers)
Main problem with LOTRO was that it ends at 50 if you are not a hardcore RP person or MP lover.
Theres is nothing to do at 50?
I mean have you even looked around?
Urugarth
Carn Dun
Barad Gularan
Annuminas
Rift
Helegord
Delving of Fror
Sarnur
Haudh larchith
Session Play
As you can see there more then enough things to do even if your not intro RP or MP
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Playing: World of Warcraft.
Played: Lord of the Rings Online, Starwars Galaxies.
Tried: Starwars the Old Republic, Everquest 2, Guild Wars, Vanguard, Age of Conan, Aion.
Theres is nothing to do at 50?
I mean have you even looked around?
Urugarth
Carn Dun
Barad Gularan
Annuminas
Rift
Helegord
Delving of Fror
Sarnur
Haudh larchith
Session Play
As you can see there more then enough things to do even if your not intro RP or MP
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Whats the point since the gear in this game does not mean anything. Those are fun for once or twice but thats it, also very hard to find healers for those (Back in the day when I was still playing). Session play? You mean the chicken thing? That was fun for like 10 minutes.
Theres is nothing to do at 50?
I mean have you even looked around?
Urugarth
Carn Dun
Barad Gularan
Annuminas
Rift
Helegord
Delving of Fror
Sarnur
Haudh larchith
Session Play
As you can see there more then enough things to do even if your not intro RP or MP
Your post does not get any credibilty
Whats the point since the gear in this game does not mean anything. Those are fun for once or twice but thats it, also very hard to find healers for those (Back in the day when I was still playing). Session play? You mean the chicken thing? That was fun for like 10 minutes.
But....The chickens is where the fun is...that and jumping off cliffs...too fun in my opinion!
Theres is nothing to do at 50?
I mean have you even looked around?
Urugarth
Carn Dun
Barad Gularan
Annuminas
Rift
Helegord
Delving of Fror
Sarnur
Haudh larchith
Session Play
As you can see there more then enough things to do even if your not intro RP or MP
Your post does not get any credibilty
Whats the point since the gear in this game does not mean anything. Those are fun for once or twice but thats it, also very hard to find healers for those (Back in the day when I was still playing). Session play? You mean the chicken thing? That was fun for like 10 minutes.
But....The chickens is where the fun is...that and jumping off cliffs...too fun in my opinion!
So to double the fun you go in to chicken mode and jump off the cliff?hehe just joking.. LOTRO is good game if you are ultra casual gamer.. play like 30 minutes a day.
Theres is nothing to do at 50?
I mean have you even looked around?
Urugarth
Carn Dun
Barad Gularan
Annuminas
Rift
Helegord
Delving of Fror
Sarnur
Haudh larchith
Session Play
As you can see there more then enough things to do even if your not intro RP or MP
Your post does not get any credibilty
Whats the point since the gear in this game does not mean anything. Those are fun for once or twice but thats it, also very hard to find healers for those (Back in the day when I was still playing). Session play? You mean the chicken thing? That was fun for like 10 minutes.
But....The chickens is where the fun is...that and jumping off cliffs...too fun in my opinion!
Why dont you go play your Hellgate: London again ? instead of botring us whit your nonsence
Playing: World of Warcraft.
Played: Lord of the Rings Online, Starwars Galaxies.
Tried: Starwars the Old Republic, Everquest 2, Guild Wars, Vanguard, Age of Conan, Aion.
I mean have you even looked around?
Urugarth
Carn Dun
Barad Gularan
Annuminas
Rift
Helegord
Delving of Fror
Sarnur
Haudh larchith
Session Play
As you can see there more then enough things to do even if your not intro RP or MP
Your post does not get any credibilty
You seem to forget, play the zones a couple times, beat it and you won't return cause you have done it and their is nothing new. Helegord was fun the first time not the other 5 times it took to get all my epic gear.
Just like others are saying there is no real content for 50, never was, I turned 50 had about 6weeks total of gameplay before I realized there was nothing left, I've done everything in that little amount of time, all the books(Book 10 was the latest at that time), both crafting tiers maxed out, Helegord epic gear acquired, Sarnur and all those other grind dungeons done to the point where it was repeativily boring, End game dungeons complete including the last boss of Carn Dun which was fun as hell to beat it, by far my most memorable experience in LotRO. PVP done to the point where I was bored don't remember the rank it was up there. It's just not there for end-game I realize burning through the whole game in 6weeks is fast and not what the developers intended, but I was out of work then and nothing else to do so this was how I keep from being bored.
Would I come back for an expansion? Yep I'd be there playing that shit up in the new areas, they did a great job as far as the story and book go, had a nice mix of instance and non-instance and overall gear was pretty balanced per level range. I'd come back for more and I'll be waiting till then.
Theres is nothing to do at 50?
I mean have you even looked around?
Urugarth
Carn Dun
Barad Gularan
Annuminas
Rift
Helegord
Delving of Fror
Sarnur
Haudh larchith
Session Play
As you can see there more then enough things to do even if your not intro RP or MP
Your post does not get any credibilty
Whats the point since the gear in this game does not mean anything. Those are fun for once or twice but thats it, also very hard to find healers for those (Back in the day when I was still playing). Session play? You mean the chicken thing? That was fun for like 10 minutes.
But....The chickens is where the fun is...that and jumping off cliffs...too fun in my opinion!
So to double the fun you go in to chicken mode and jump off the cliff?hehe just joking.. LOTRO is good game if you are ultra casual gamer.. play like 30 minutes a day.
30 min a day is not realy ultra casual, its more like casual. if your an addic and play games up to 3 hours day ofcourse you get burend out of any game realy fast, cuz the content will never keep up whit those players.Intense gamers will burn through any content quicker then a new content can be put in.
Playing: World of Warcraft.
Played: Lord of the Rings Online, Starwars Galaxies.
Tried: Starwars the Old Republic, Everquest 2, Guild Wars, Vanguard, Age of Conan, Aion.
Theres is nothing to do at 50?I mean have you even looked around?
Urugarth
Carn Dun
Barad Gularan
Annuminas
Rift
Helegord
Delving of Fror
Sarnur
Haudh larchith
Session Play
As you can see there more then enough things to do even if your not intro RP or MP
Your post does not get any credibilty
You seem to forget, play the zones a couple times, beat it and you won't return cause you have done it and their is nothing new. Helegord was fun the first time not the other 5 times it took to get all my epic gear.
Just like others are saying there is no real content for 50, never was, I turned 50 had about 6weeks total of gameplay before I realized there was nothing left, I've done everything in that little amount of time, all the books(Book 10 was the latest at that time), both crafting tiers maxed out, Helegord epic gear acquired, Sarnur and all those other grind dungeons done to the point where it was repeativily boring, End game dungeons complete including the last boss of Carn Dun which was fun as hell to beat it, by far my most memorable experience in LotRO. PVP done to the point where I was bored don't remember the rank it was up there. It's just not there for end-game I realize burning through the whole game in 6weeks is fast and not what the developers intended, but I was out of work then and nothing else to do so this was how I keep from being bored.
Would I come back for an expansion? Yep I'd be there playing that shit up in the new areas, they did a great job as far as the story and book go, had a nice mix of instance and non-instance and overall gear was pretty balanced per level range. I'd come back for more and I'll be waiting till then.
your just a prime exsapple of what treu hardcore players are like, i played this game for a year now and i have not even been to helegord yet, and have not even seen last boss of carn durn. so i gess that whats makes the difrents between you and me. the game was made for me and not for you. but at least you amid you enjoyed it, for wile it lasted...
Playing: World of Warcraft.
Played: Lord of the Rings Online, Starwars Galaxies.
Tried: Starwars the Old Republic, Everquest 2, Guild Wars, Vanguard, Age of Conan, Aion.
Theres is nothing to do at 50?
I mean have you even looked around?
Urugarth
Carn Dun
Barad Gularan
Annuminas
Rift
Helegord
Delving of Fror
Sarnur
Haudh larchith
Session Play
As you can see there more then enough things to do even if your not intro RP or MP
Your post does not get any credibilty
Whats the point since the gear in this game does not mean anything. Those are fun for once or twice but thats it, also very hard to find healers for those (Back in the day when I was still playing). Session play? You mean the chicken thing? That was fun for like 10 minutes.
But....The chickens is where the fun is...that and jumping off cliffs...too fun in my opinion!
So to double the fun you go in to chicken mode and jump off the cliff?hehe just joking.. LOTRO is good game if you are ultra casual gamer.. play like 30 minutes a day.
30 min a day is not realy ultra casual, its more like casual. if your an addic and play games up to 3 hours day ofcourse you get burend out of any game realy fast, cuz the content will never keep up whit those players.Intense gamers will burn through any content quicker then a new content can be put in.
Ah, the definition of casual, so difficult to really spell out. I play about 3 hours a day (bit more on weekends) and I consider myself a casual to moderate player.
To me hardcore addicts do 8+ hours a day.
But I left LotRO long ago because I realized very early on (I was level 30 at the time) where my journey was going to end up soon. Exploring new lands and dungeons is all well and good, but not the sort of end game I'm looking for.
I like new content of course, but I want to receive rewards that help power up my character to achieve greater victories on the PVP battlefield. That isn't how LotRO was designed, (which is fine) and so I left.
But the OP is a more hardcore gamer who's burned through the content far faster than the develolpers will ever bring new stuff out. I recommend you consider playing more than one game at a time so you can prevent yourself from reaching the end so quickly. (a governor of sorts)
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I play 1-3 hours a day and consider it casual. 3 hours usually isn't much in MMORPG where finding groups can take close to 1 hour and sometimes more.
I am not positive, but I THINK I remember them (LoTRO employees) calling casual players people who averaged 10 hours a week. But I am not certain about this.
I was playing about 2 hours a day five days a week when I first started but because of playing ability (well, actually LACK of playing ability) I only managed to get 5 characters with one at 33, one at 24, one at 22 and the other two in the high teens. I'm one of those people who will leave (LoTRO was my first MMORPG so I'm now having a ton of fun with the free ones) and then come back. Playing others just reinforces my "WOW" when I get back into LoTRO and see how immersive the graphics are. I'm thrilled that they don't have a lot of PvP, I hate it. So I guess I'm their target customer, they wanted people who were casual and even those who hadn't played before, and with me, that's what they got.
Theres is nothing to do at 50?
I mean have you even looked around?
Urugarth
Carn Dun
Barad Gularan
Annuminas
Rift
Helegord
Delving of Fror
Sarnur
Haudh larchith
Session Play
As you can see there more then enough things to do even if your not intro RP or MP
Your post does not get any credibilty
Whats the point since the gear in this game does not mean anything. Those are fun for once or twice but thats it, also very hard to find healers for those (Back in the day when I was still playing). Session play? You mean the chicken thing? That was fun for like 10 minutes.
But....The chickens is where the fun is...that and jumping off cliffs...too fun in my opinion!
So to double the fun you go in to chicken mode and jump off the cliff?hehe just joking.. LOTRO is good game if you are ultra casual gamer.. play like 30 minutes a day.
30 min a day is not realy ultra casual, its more like casual. if your an addic and play games up to 3 hours day ofcourse you get burend out of any game realy fast, cuz the content will never keep up whit those players.Intense gamers will burn through any content quicker then a new content can be put in.
omfg, 30 mins play a day is NOT considered ultra casual?
Your an 'addic' if you play more?
Why on earth are you actually playing an MMORPG at all? These games from day 1 have required the player to invest something deeper then other genres, thats what has always given them the soul other games have always lacked for me. When a game is full of 30 min a day players, how can social networks, friendships, and game knowledge be built up? In short, how can communities be forged?
No wonder MMOs are going down the sh*tter.
Theres is nothing to do at 50?
I mean have you even looked around?
Urugarth
Carn Dun
Barad Gularan
Annuminas
Rift
Helegord
Delving of Fror
Sarnur
Haudh larchith
Session Play
As you can see there more then enough things to do even if your not intro RP or MP
Your post does not get any credibilty
Whats the point since the gear in this game does not mean anything. Those are fun for once or twice but thats it, also very hard to find healers for those (Back in the day when I was still playing). Session play? You mean the chicken thing? That was fun for like 10 minutes.
But....The chickens is where the fun is...that and jumping off cliffs...too fun in my opinion!
So to double the fun you go in to chicken mode and jump off the cliff?hehe just joking.. LOTRO is good game if you are ultra casual gamer.. play like 30 minutes a day.
30 min a day is not realy ultra casual, its more like casual. if your an addic and play games up to 3 hours day ofcourse you get burend out of any game realy fast, cuz the content will never keep up whit those players.Intense gamers will burn through any content quicker then a new content can be put in.
omfg, 30 mins play a day is NOT considered ultra casual?
Your an 'addic' if you play more?
Why on earth are you actually playing an MMORPG at all? These games from day 1 have required the player to invest something deeper then other genres, thats what has always given them the soul other games have always lacked for me. When a game is full of 30 min a day players, how can social networks, friendships, and game knowledge be built up? In short, how can communities be forged?
No wonder MMOs are going down the sh*tter.
I think MMOs are going down the sh*tter as you say because the communities are filled with OMFG LEET kids who have nothing better to do than grief everyone else in the game.
30 mins a day does seem a bit short, but hey if he wants to pay for the game and play at his leisure than that's fine by me^^ I'm just happy the game'll keep being funded and going. besides, they might do 30 mins or so a day during the week and spend a lot more time playing on the weekends
who knows?
The good thing about this game is that actually can accomplish things even if you only play a few hours a week. And there will always be plenty of hardcore people playing who do invest a lot more time in the game. LoTRO has a much better community than a lot of games out there.
Oh and about the chicken play, lol, it's a spiffy mini game and you can get the title "Crosser of Roads" which is the best one in the game in my opinion lol.
I agree with OP, im 30 now and it was fun ride so far but im beginning to see the pattern and only thing that can break this sterile environment is PvP.
They should fix goofy models and do some motion capturing. Its shame cos landscapes looks great but character models and movement is a joke.
One more thing, ingame map system is definitely the worst one i ever seen. I think that some rpg-s from 80' had better looking maps than LOTRO.
I agree with the OP as well.
Bought the lifetime, but the weak combat system (read: Not engaging), and poor pvp, has left my account idle for months. I made a mistake; fortunately one I can afford. Lesson very well learned, that's for sure.
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