I wont be buying war is it becomes a battle ground type grind fest ala wow hearing about all the capture the flag "scenarios" makes think everyone is going to be shoved away in some instance and not outside doing world rvr which is what im most looking forward to.
World RvR = More xp and Renown so i highly doubt that people will spend more time in scenarios.
Is it? The only mention i saw was that they sort of equalized it?
Yes infact they pretty much bash wow in their lastest PvP/RvR cast talking about how instanced pvp will still help the cause but most of the focus will be on world pvp and taking keeps. For those of you who are just simply bashing graphics and animations and simple combat atm you need to realize that 99% of the shots are unfinished as well as the movies they are putting out. It is a work in progress and has time before we see something close to finish. So as another poster has said I think it's way to early inless you are just waiting on something else to hit and/or are simply tired of mmo's atm.
And I cannot wait for this game to release, I loved the RvR in DAoC and it finally sounds like that is the direction they are going back to. I cannot wait.
------------------------------ We don't have a great war in our generation, or a great depression, but we do, we have a great war of the spirit. We have a great revolution against the culture. The great depression is our lives. ~Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club
I am just posting this to see how many players "won't" be playing Warhammer? I want any reason. I can tell you one of the reasons I'm not playing Warhammer is it's just another class base pvp system. I love my PVP, but I hate rock paper scissors version of pvp. So this is my reason, but to anyone not going to play Warhammer online I want to know yours.
I "wont" be playing WAR;
Tired of the same level / class / gear based grind fest.
waiting for Darkfall.
The game that has "advanced" classes or what have you? The same game that makes you "grind" to "level" your skills to 100? If "gear" doesn't make some difference, there would be no need to have it.
Arkane I think you miss the point of a sandbox game, and a class base game. In a sandbox game if a player is tired of certain skills they can go in another direction without having to start from scratch. You can't do that in class based games. You simply have to reroll. To make it worst the only thing that seperates you from the others that are the same class might be gear, but that's about it. Class base games are good just too frequent in this market hench players are wanting something new, and not just diffrent.
I won't be playing WAR because it is very structured like WoW. I want more of a sandbox game.
If you view the developers game discussion videos, they explain in painful detail about the tiered zones and how you advance from zone 1 to zone 2 etc. in a linear fashion, very much how WoW does this with their quest system. While I can appreciate the simplicity of such a design for most casual gamers, I want a game which allows me much more freedom and promotes intelligent decison making and exploration as part of that freedom.
I also won't be playing WAR because the developers have chosen to bastardize the game by selling ingame items and advantages as part of their preoder and collectors edition incentive. This is a disturbing trend which destroys the concept of a fair and level playing field. I refuse to pay more or pay early in order to not be at a disadvantage playing the game when it launches. It's one thing to start a game after launch and be expected to invest more time to catch up, but entirely unfair to start at a disadvantage because the developers are selling out like gold farmers and item shop games.
I won't be playing WAR because it is very structured like WoW. I want more of a sandbox game. If you view the developers game discussion videos, they explain in painful detail about the tiered zones and how you advance from zone 1 to zone 2 etc. in a linear fashion, very much how WoW does this with their quest system. While I can appreciate the simplicity of such a design for most casual gamers, I want a game which allows me much more freedom and promotes intelligent decison making and exploration as part of that freedom. I also won't be playing WAR because the developers have chosen to bastardize the game by selling ingame items and advantages as part of their preoder and collectors edition incentive. This is a disturbing trend which destroys the concept of a fair and level playing field. I refuse to pay more or pay early in order to not be at a disadvantage playing the game when it launches. It's one thing to start a game after launch and be expected to invest more time to catch up, but entirely unfair to start at a disadvantage because the developers are selling out like gold farmers and item shop games.
First off what other sandbox game as survived besides EVE? Even then I load up EVE and get lost in what I need to do right away, thats why I prefer a story. As for your second part... what other mmo HASN'T done this? Please name one, as far as I know, every mmo has done it at one point and time.
Playing: Nada. Played: WAR, LOTRO, EVE, WoW, EQ2, SWG, STO Waiting: TOR
I "wont" be playing WAR; Tired of the same level / class / gear based grind fest. waiting for Darkfall.
Sorry but the game is vaporware. Development for 7+ years? Sucky community? Not well known/popular? Claims they will release the game themselves (uber fail vaporware move)? Lack of pictures and/or videos? DEVELOPMENT FOR 7+ YEARS?!
Playing: Nada. Played: WAR, LOTRO, EVE, WoW, EQ2, SWG, STO Waiting: TOR
The game that has "advanced" classes or what have you? The same game that makes you "grind" to "level" your skills to 100? If "gear" doesn't make some difference, there would be no need to have it.
^^^ Fanboy alert! Your obviously small minded and cant think outside the box so i wont even try, however its the year 2008 so you would think for the amount of money they get paid they can come up with something better than the same'ole same'ole! but you wont understand, it goes beyond your mental capacity as well as the rest of the sheep that flock MMO's today!
The game that has "advanced" classes or what have you? The same game that makes you "grind" to "level" your skills to 100? If "gear" doesn't make some difference, there would be no need to have it.
^^^ Fanboy alert! Your obviously small minded and cant think outside the box so i wont even try, however its the year 2008 so you would think for the amount of money they get paid they can come up with something better than the same'ole same'ole! but you wont understand, it goes beyond your mental capacity as well as the rest of the sheep that flock MMO's today!
The funny thing is........ Arkane_A was referring to Darkfall.
That fat, obnoxious british guy who wears the same black, one size too small, GAP t-shirt in every video. Sorry, I just don't like that guy and the picture of him in the white sunglasses on the front page pushed me too far. To stay on topic, because it's not out yet. I was eagerly looking forward to playing WAR come summer and about to pre-order, until it got pushed back to a ridiculously far date. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but I'm likely to try AoC or CotSB (if it comes to North America) now, and if I like them I'm likely to stick with them and not buy WAR later on. So, that is why I am not and possibly will not be playing.
dude u have issues
p. barnett is a cool guy..he makes me laugh everytime i see him .
well back to topic:
IF >[AION is released first] then [me doesnt play WAR]
I won't be due to the static combat, i perfer to be able to move about in combat..but the combat in WAR looks boring from the video's so far.. I wont bump it until i tried it but im not looking to pay a penny until i know the combat is to my liking.
I will not be playing WAR because at the moment I believe Age of Conan will be better. I also think it wont be able to top several other upcoming MMO's as well as MMO's currently out. Might still be a good game though.
Not trying to flame anyone, but I'm kind of surprised at how many people are writing off WAR as same-old, same-old when all the "behind the scenes" articles I've been reading show WAR will be very different from WOW. Let's see - public quests, highly customizable characters, dozens of instanced battlefields instead of 4, open world PVP keep system, a loot system where you can just convert items to cash, and plenty of cool easter eggs for exploring the world. In my mind, WAR is picking up where WOW left off - which is one of the reasons I can't wait to play it.
Every game genre has it's set "style," and I'm not sure why everyone expects MMOGs to be so different. Most shooters involve running around and killing things through your rifle scope; most real-time strategy games involve base building and unit spamming. Let's face it - most MMOGs are going to follow the EQ/WOW model. Saying that AOC is a better game than WAR simply because of it's interface is like saying "ZOMG Crysis is such a Doom clone! I play Rainbow Six cause you can like control 4 guys instead of one!"
You can still have a very fresh and exciting gameplay experience by how things are presented. It's the little things that count the most, and I think Mythic's doing a heck of a job on nailing the details.
Not trying to flame anyone, but I'm kind of surprised at how many people are writing off WAR as same-old, same-old when all the "behind the scenes" articles I've been reading show WAR will be very different from WOW. Let's see - public quests, highly customizable characters, dozens of instanced battlefields instead of 4, open world PVP keep system, a loot system where you can just convert items to cash, and plenty of cool easter eggs for exploring the world. In my mind, WAR is picking up where WOW left off - which is one of the reasons I can't wait to play it. Every game genre has it's set "style," and I'm not sure why everyone expects MMOGs to be so different. Most shooters involve running around and killing things through your rifle scope; most real-time strategy games involve base building and unit spamming. Let's face it - most MMOGs are going to follow the EQ/WOW model. Saying that AOC is a better game than WAR simply because of it's interface is like saying "ZOMG Crysis is such a Doom clone! I play Rainbow Six cause you can like control 4 guys instead of one!" You can still have a very fresh and exciting gameplay experience by how things are presented. It's the little things that count the most, and I think Mythic's doing a heck of a job on nailing the details.
That's one of the things I like the most, the little things Mythic doesn't have to do but that will make the game succeed. People are just tired of the format of MMOs, innovation is always welcome, but one way or another they have the same style. Otherwise it'd have a different name.
-------------------------------------- A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
<p>The fact of the matter is everyone, yes i mean everyone, posting in the WAR forums either to praise the game or bash it to all high hell, -EVERYONE- posting in these forums will play or try WAR if not during open beta, during release time.</p>
<p>Don't try to tell me I'm wrong, or else why would you be posting in this forum?? </p>
-------------------------------------- A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
I may or may not be playing warhammer it really depends if i have the time.
What saddens me is that to many think it is going to be a WOW clone. yes i get it that wow is a game most have played but then that does not make this game a clone of it. WOW was just once a clone of all those that came before it in so many ways.
This does and should remind many of DAOC. or is there no one here left who played DAOC. To me it seems just like an updated version of DAOC but with a warhammer like theme. i think it looks like it will be fun, so if i find the time i will try it out.
anyone waiting for an all amazing game that has all new ideas and concepts well then you will be waiting a very long time.
Lol psh these negative nancy posts wont keep me away from WAR...Mythic basically has to shit on its customer base in the fashion of EQ1 Raids to keep me from showing up. I was just kidding Ascension lol you can come pwn my toons aplenty during open and head start lol and live
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
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Blasphemy! Blasphemy I say!
World RvR = More xp and Renown so i highly doubt that people will spend more time in scenarios.
Is it? The only mention i saw was that they sort of equalized it?
Yes infact they pretty much bash wow in their lastest PvP/RvR cast talking about how instanced pvp will still help the cause but most of the focus will be on world pvp and taking keeps. For those of you who are just simply bashing graphics and animations and simple combat atm you need to realize that 99% of the shots are unfinished as well as the movies they are putting out. It is a work in progress and has time before we see something close to finish. So as another poster has said I think it's way to early inless you are just waiting on something else to hit and/or are simply tired of mmo's atm.
And I cannot wait for this game to release, I loved the RvR in DAoC and it finally sounds like that is the direction they are going back to. I cannot wait.
------------------------------
We don't have a great war in our generation, or a great depression, but we do, we have a great war of the spirit. We have a great revolution against the culture. The great depression is our lives.
~Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club
I "wont" be playing WAR;
Tired of the same level / class / gear based grind fest.
waiting for Darkfall.
The game that has "advanced" classes or what have you? The same game that makes you "grind" to "level" your skills to 100? If "gear" doesn't make some difference, there would be no need to have it.
Arkane I think you miss the point of a sandbox game, and a class base game. In a sandbox game if a player is tired of certain skills they can go in another direction without having to start from scratch. You can't do that in class based games. You simply have to reroll. To make it worst the only thing that seperates you from the others that are the same class might be gear, but that's about it. Class base games are good just too frequent in this market hench players are wanting something new, and not just diffrent.
So much ignorance and misinformed opinions that are stopping people play WAR its a shame.
These people need to educate themselves as to whether the reason is factual or just their impression.
I for one will be there and looking forward to a Fun MMO (for a change).
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
I won't be playing WAR because it is very structured like WoW. I want more of a sandbox game.
If you view the developers game discussion videos, they explain in painful detail about the tiered zones and how you advance from zone 1 to zone 2 etc. in a linear fashion, very much how WoW does this with their quest system. While I can appreciate the simplicity of such a design for most casual gamers, I want a game which allows me much more freedom and promotes intelligent decison making and exploration as part of that freedom.
I also won't be playing WAR because the developers have chosen to bastardize the game by selling ingame items and advantages as part of their preoder and collectors edition incentive. This is a disturbing trend which destroys the concept of a fair and level playing field. I refuse to pay more or pay early in order to not be at a disadvantage playing the game when it launches. It's one thing to start a game after launch and be expected to invest more time to catch up, but entirely unfair to start at a disadvantage because the developers are selling out like gold farmers and item shop games.
First off what other sandbox game as survived besides EVE? Even then I load up EVE and get lost in what I need to do right away, thats why I prefer a story. As for your second part... what other mmo HASN'T done this? Please name one, as far as I know, every mmo has done it at one point and time.
Playing: Nada.
Played: WAR, LOTRO, EVE, WoW, EQ2, SWG, STO
Waiting: TOR
Sorry but the game is vaporware. Development for 7+ years? Sucky community? Not well known/popular? Claims they will release the game themselves (uber fail vaporware move)? Lack of pictures and/or videos? DEVELOPMENT FOR 7+ YEARS?!
Playing: Nada.
Played: WAR, LOTRO, EVE, WoW, EQ2, SWG, STO
Waiting: TOR
^^^ Fanboy alert! Your obviously small minded and cant think outside the box so i wont even try, however its the year 2008 so you would think for the amount of money they get paid they can come up with something better than the same'ole same'ole! but you wont understand, it goes beyond your mental capacity as well as the rest of the sheep that flock MMO's today!
^^^ Fanboy alert! Your obviously small minded and cant think outside the box so i wont even try, however its the year 2008 so you would think for the amount of money they get paid they can come up with something better than the same'ole same'ole! but you wont understand, it goes beyond your mental capacity as well as the rest of the sheep that flock MMO's today!
The funny thing is........ Arkane_A was referring to Darkfall.
Perhaps you could mentally capacitize that?
p. barnett is a cool guy..he makes me laugh everytime i see him .
well back to topic:
IF >[AION is released first] then [me doesnt play WAR]
its easy.
I won't be due to the static combat, i perfer to be able to move about in combat..but the combat in WAR looks boring from the video's so far.. I wont bump it until i tried it but im not looking to pay a penny until i know the combat is to my liking.
I will not be playing WAR because at the moment I believe Age of Conan will be better. I also think it wont be able to top several other upcoming MMO's as well as MMO's currently out. Might still be a good game though.
I'll play War, but it the character movement and camera controls are not smooth.. I'll be gone in 5 min.
I want to enjoy the game not fight it.
Not trying to flame anyone, but I'm kind of surprised at how many people are writing off WAR as same-old, same-old when all the "behind the scenes" articles I've been reading show WAR will be very different from WOW. Let's see - public quests, highly customizable characters, dozens of instanced battlefields instead of 4, open world PVP keep system, a loot system where you can just convert items to cash, and plenty of cool easter eggs for exploring the world. In my mind, WAR is picking up where WOW left off - which is one of the reasons I can't wait to play it.
Every game genre has it's set "style," and I'm not sure why everyone expects MMOGs to be so different. Most shooters involve running around and killing things through your rifle scope; most real-time strategy games involve base building and unit spamming. Let's face it - most MMOGs are going to follow the EQ/WOW model. Saying that AOC is a better game than WAR simply because of it's interface is like saying "ZOMG Crysis is such a Doom clone! I play Rainbow Six cause you can like control 4 guys instead of one!"
You can still have a very fresh and exciting gameplay experience by how things are presented. It's the little things that count the most, and I think Mythic's doing a heck of a job on nailing the details.
D&D Home Page - What Class Are You? - Build A Character - D&D Compendium
That's one of the things I like the most, the little things Mythic doesn't have to do but that will make the game succeed. People are just tired of the format of MMOs, innovation is always welcome, but one way or another they have the same style. Otherwise it'd have a different name.
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A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
I'm not playing WAR because its full of Noobs and Noobzoids and it gives you Cancer and it kills Kittens and it's caused Global warming.
(makes up random crap like everyone else that Hates on Games in General without ever paying a lick of attention to the Details). WAAAAARGH!
btw incase anyoen thought i was serious i was joking..lol..im totally playing WAR
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
:P
<p>The fact of the matter is everyone, yes i mean everyone, posting in the WAR forums either to praise the game or bash it to all high hell, -EVERYONE- posting in these forums will play or try WAR if not during open beta, during release time.</p>
<p>Don't try to tell me I'm wrong, or else why would you be posting in this forum??
</p>
FFXI: Gauhar - Odin
LOL - nice... but hmm.. what's the diference between Noobs and Noobzoids?
It's a rethoric question but you can answer if you want!
Now serioulsy this thread has become useless and I just came back to read the last posts to comfirm that it is useless... *sigh*
After this thread being around for too long I want to send some cheers for some original posts though.
Omgzwtf they kill kittens! (*goes to amazon to cancel pre-order*)
WAR made me get an abortion.
Elven hope you're kidding
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A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
I may or may not be playing warhammer it really depends if i have the time.
What saddens me is that to many think it is going to be a WOW clone. yes i get it that wow is a game most have played but then that does not make this game a clone of it. WOW was just once a clone of all those that came before it in so many ways.
This does and should remind many of DAOC. or is there no one here left who played DAOC. To me it seems just like an updated version of DAOC but with a warhammer like theme. i think it looks like it will be fun, so if i find the time i will try it out.
anyone waiting for an all amazing game that has all new ideas and concepts well then you will be waiting a very long time.
Lol psh these negative nancy posts wont keep me away from WAR...Mythic basically has to shit on its customer base in the fashion of EQ1 Raids to keep me from showing up. I was just kidding Ascension lol you can come pwn my toons aplenty during open and head start lol and live
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
But, but, but...... I HAVE KITTENS!!!
Dear god! What has this world come to?
Edit: I'm also against global warming and cancer, but the kittens thing really is crossing that fine line between genius and insanity.
Elfs and Midgets with beards