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  • DeadDingoDeadDingo Member Posts: 193
    Originally posted by VultureSkull


    The amount of energy and time spent on arguing about AoC is quite remarkable.
    Considering that the game is changing on a daily basis, it is quite furtile arguing about performance etc.
    And the game is still in beta lol! This ISN'T BETA.  It's a marketing program. 
    What will it be like when it is released? a steaming pile of doggie doo doo
     
    As the previous post said, AoC is not for everyone, if it is not for you and you are here arguing about then you have to much time on your hands period. yes, i do


     
    If it is for you then rest assured that FUNCOM is doing all it can to get this game in a good shape, and will continue to do so after release, it is not their first game so they do have experience. they have experience in a pathetic launch that they *will* repeat yet again.
    Hey, it's what they know and have experience for isn't it?
  • SpiiderSpiider Member RarePosts: 1,135

    Loading time shorter but game is still laggy, choppy and very demanding on hardware.

    I have yet to go to interessting part of the game, so far only generic single player quests and usuall grinding. To be honest I still see no difference between AoC and other games. Lore is nice, but so was LOTRO.

    I am acctually looking forward to crafting, sieges etc. If that is not implemented I will not pay for this. If they push those parts trough properly then I will be in 100% at least to try it out.

    No fate but what we make, so make me a ham sandwich please.

  • grizzletoothgrizzletooth Member Posts: 4

    If I understand correctly crafting is in the game but can't craft till after level 20 and you can't get past 13 in ob so there you have it its stupid.

  • VultureSkullVultureSkull Member UncommonPosts: 1,774

    Originally posted by DeadDingo


     
    Originally posted by lisarob


    Well i think the time has come for people with crap pc's to buy a 360 and wait for AOC or buy a new pc with a good spec.
     
     

     

    My pc exceeds min specs and doesn't run AoCrap even with hours of tweaking using the so-called 'solutions'.

    I think it's time you realize that it's not the computers or the users. 

    AoCrap will be a failure.  It exceeds most peoples computer specs by a fair margin.  It doesn't work on a significant percentage of people's computers who meet or exceed specs.

    And that's just the technical aspect.

    It will fail on it's design as well. 

    At launch, it will seemingly be a success in number of box sales.  Immediately there will be an outcry from a minimum of 25% of those people who can't play this POS even though they meet specs.

    EPIC FAIL AHEAD.

    I hope all the fanbois will be around to explain to people why it isn't working on their rig.

    And not just the usual BS.

    You have only had a glimpse of the epic fail ahead.

     

     

    Well since you will not be buying it i assume that you will not need to be reading any further posts here?

     

    You get people come on here and slag the game off and they still end up buying it and playing it.

     

    Bye bye DeadDingo, hope to see u on another forum!

     

  • openedge1openedge1 Member Posts: 2,582

    Originally posted by ethion


    It's my opinion.  I'm tired to hell of hearing people saying how rosy things are when it just doesn't work for me and takes tons of messing to get the game to even load.  So I guess yeah I am calling a ton of people liars if that's the way you want to phrase it.   I'd call it rose colored exageration or wanting something so bad you are willing to overlook things but hey whatever you want to say, I'm just frustrated.
    Really it's all about funcom.  If they really got a fix, lets see it.  I'll be one of the first cheering when I can load the game and not have to worry about it crashing or just plain not working.  I mean let me ask you.  Just name one reason why funcom wouldn't want to release a patch to open beta to make it work properly if such a patch exists.  I mean really can anyone name a single reasonable downside to doing that!?!?  And if you can't then why aren't they doing it?
     
    The highlighted words are key here...Your opinion is it runs horrible...my opinion is it runs great..

    One person here even has video of how OB was running...smooth as silk...but, maybe they are liars too...hard to say...could be faked even..

    Sorry there is something wrong on your system to make it run bad...but, it is like when  people kept calling me a liar when I told them LOTRO run like ass ( and still does to this day...after checking out their free preview weekend..logged off and went back to play AoC)...I even had video of the hitching issues...but I was still a liar...(everyone said it was my "opinion"...even with proof..)

    AoC runs awesome for me, and many others...and it sounds like release is gonna rock..

    Later

  • VultureSkullVultureSkull Member UncommonPosts: 1,774

    if it runs horrible for you reduce the graphics, this is not WoW!

    If it still runs horribly for you then go out and buy a new computer that can handle the game.

    Otherwise go and buy a console, PS3, 360 or a Wii so that you will experience games that have been desigined to run on one hardware set up with no bugs!

     

    Simple simple simple.

  • RubakaiRubakai Member Posts: 97

    OP is not lying, can people stop moaning about breaking the NDA and just be happy that FUNCOM have almost pulled a rabbit out the bag

  • TroadaTroada Member Posts: 76

    Haha, wow guys look at the posts made by DeadDingo. AND he's 30 years old. "FAILED" much virgin? Better check your mother isn't watching over your shoulder if you decide to reply to this. 

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  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,990
    This patch is definitely good news. Now (judging based on this topic), it seems that the performance of the game is close to what it should be at release, instead of being at where Vanguard's performance was at the release.



    But it's sad that many fans are lying at us, or at least I feel that I've been lied to. First I've been told that open beta was earlier version, and closed beta was newer version without much technical problems. Yet now I'm told that there was a huge patch in closed beta and it (nearly) fixed the large technical problems, wich according to what fans previously told, didn't exist at all. And now I'm supposed to believe those fans even after this?



    I'm eagerly awaiting the game, and for full lift of closed beta NDA. The game is only a week away from the release, why can't Funcom now lift the NDA? Are they going to lift it now that they've released a huge patch, or are they going to keep it until release to hide something that is completely unfinished?



    EDIT: On a second tought about that NDA, I quess that since Funcom has kept it on for so long, they probably won't lift it before the launch of the game. They can't be hiding anything positive or they'd have lifted it already, and they know that majority of those who are intrested enough about the game to even know that there is an NDA aren't patient enough to wait until they hear reviews from the full game (what it was at the end of beta) but are just going to buy without hearing of it. /EDIT
     
  • DignaDigna Member UncommonPosts: 1,994

    I'm truly weary of the all the negative (as well as the fanatical positive) posts here. Each machine is different. When any software goes to patching stages, the developers try to fix the things which will affect the greatest percentage of people (Note* this applies to to almost all items for sale in in the open markets today, not just software). That means that the largest portion of affected people (i.e. users who will use/buy/etc) will see a better product. It also means that some people will see no improvements or possibly a reduced performance product. That's how it is.

    Now. As a long time server administrator (read: glorified technical help desk in the minds of most  users) I know that a lot of people who complain about things don't make an accurate assessment. They look at their little snapshot, make it a 'big picture' and make generic statements like 'No one can do this' or ' Everyone is going to....' and that just isn't the case. You can comment on your position, your observations and those only.

    Good news to the folks who are spouting hatred here..YOU DON'T HAVE TO PLAY!

    That's the difference between work and gaming software. For gaming you have a choice. Choose not to play and find something else to talk about.

    http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=patchqs6.jpg

     

    To those who are happy (in general), a recap: A patch is out for CB and a sizable one. It seems to have helped more people that it hindered but we have no concrete numbers EITHER WAY....and there was no troll by the OP..so no EPIC FAIL...

    A synopsis of the above shown patch notes says: "We fixed a lot of stuff and there should be game performance imporvements. We know there's more stuff but we were concentrating on performance."

    Hooray! They have a prioritization list. Make the game playable for as many as possible and then go back and get the rest. Work around the clock, fix as much as possible in the 11th hour, take a breath after the game launches and then start working around the clock again to fix the rest.

     

  • Greek_MattGreek_Matt Member Posts: 354
    Originally posted by grizzletooth

    If I understand correctly crafting is in the game but can't craft till after level 20 and you can't get past 13 in ob so there you have it its stupid.

    'cept that from May 10th they're opening up the full game in the open Beta, not just Tortage (and with no more level cap). So those with the inclination can find out for themselves.

  • DignaDigna Member UncommonPosts: 1,994

    I understood crafting to be level 40 to start...did that change somewhere that I haven't seen?

  • DeadDingoDeadDingo Member Posts: 193

    Originally posted by Greek_Matt

    Originally posted by grizzletooth


    If I understand correctly crafting is in the game but can't craft till after level 20 and you can't get past 13 in ob so there you have it its stupid.

    'cept that from May 10th they're opening up the full game in the open Beta, not just Tortage (and with no more level cap). So those with the inclination can find out for themselves.

    yes, they can find out IN A PVP GANKFEST.

    Who do you think will actually survive long enough to make it to higher levels and truly being to explore and craft?

    Um.... nobody?!?

    'nuff said.

  • IKShadowIKShadow Member UncommonPosts: 783

    Originally posted by DeadDingo


     
    Originally posted by Greek_Matt

    Originally posted by grizzletooth


    If I understand correctly crafting is in the game but can't craft till after level 20 and you can't get past 13 in ob so there you have it its stupid.

    'cept that from May 10th they're opening up the full game in the open Beta, not just Tortage (and with no more level cap). So those with the inclination can find out for themselves.

     

    yes, they can find out IN A PVP GANKFEST.

    Who do you think will actually survive long enough to make it to higher levels and truly being to explore and craft?

    Um.... nobody?!?

    'nuff said.

    DeadDingo whats the point of trolling here ?

    Futilez[Do You Have What It Takes ?]

  • GruntiesGrunties Member Posts: 859

    Originally posted by Vrika

    This patch is definitely good news. Now (judging based on this topic), it seems that the performance of the game is close to what it should be at release, instead of being at where Vanguard's performance was at the release.



    But it's sad that many fans are lying at us, or at least I feel that I've been lied to. First I've been told that open beta was earlier version, and closed beta was newer version without much technical problems. Yet now I'm told that there was a huge patch in closed beta and it (nearly) fixed the large technical problems, wich according to what fans previously told, didn't exist at all. And now I'm supposed to believe those fans even after this?

    I am looking forward to seeing the patch show up in open beta, but I too had thought of the point you made in the second paragraph. A lot of the people now reporting huge performance increases are the same ones that claimed it ran flawlessly before, and kept blaming others poor pc's for performance problems. So they either weren't telling the truth before, or they aren't telling the truth now. Either way they have come off as dishonest.

    I know I know, getting honesty from a hardcore fan is like getting blood from a stone, so you have to take anything they say with a grain of salt. But I guess that just reinforces why its so important to get both positives and negatives experiences about a product if you want to get the full picture.

    But heres to hoping for a speedy deployment of the fix to OB.

     

     

     

    Waiting for: A skill-based MMO with Freedom and Consequence.
    Woe to thee, the pierce-ed.

  • DeadDingoDeadDingo Member Posts: 193

    the point is that their end-beta event is designed to be a gankfest.  It is designed so that people CAN'T level up and really get a true feel of the game.

    You may call this trolling.  I call it pointing out the cold, hard facts.

    How far do you really think the majority of players will get when it is promoted as a gankfest?

    How much of the +20 world do you really think people will see?

    I'm betting little to none.

    If you are too stupid to see that, then I can't help you, but I will let everyone know that a glossed over 'truly open' beta is nothing but a smokescreen to hide the fact that the game is incomplete.

    kthanxbye.

     

  • IkonicIkonic Member UncommonPosts: 310
    Originally posted by Grunties


     
    Originally posted by Vrika

    This patch is definitely good news. Now (judging based on this topic), it seems that the performance of the game is close to what it should be at release, instead of being at where Vanguard's performance was at the release.



    But it's sad that many fans are lying at us, or at least I feel that I've been lied to. First I've been told that open beta was earlier version, and closed beta was newer version without much technical problems. Yet now I'm told that there was a huge patch in closed beta and it (nearly) fixed the large technical problems, wich according to what fans previously told, didn't exist at all. And now I'm supposed to believe those fans even after this?

     

    I am looking forward to seeing the patch show up in open beta, but I too had thought of the point you made in the second paragraph. A lot of the people now reporting huge performance increases are the same ones that claimed it ran flawlessly before, and kept blaming others poor pc's for performance problems. So they either weren't telling the truth before, or they aren't telling the truth now. Either way they have come off as dishonest.

    I know I know, getting honesty from a hardcore fan is like getting blood from a stone, so you have to take anything they say with a grain of salt. But I guess that just reinforces why its so important to get both positives and negatives experiences about a product if you want to get the full picture.

    But heres to hoping for a speedy deployment of the fix to OB.

     

     

     



    i don't think it was a miracle patch everyone is claiming it to be, It appears that the major change they did to improve performance for some is that they turned off the debugger...

  • Greek_MattGreek_Matt Member Posts: 354
    Originally posted by DeadDingo

    Originally posted by Greek_Matt

    Originally posted by grizzletooth


    If I understand correctly crafting is in the game but can't craft till after level 20 and you can't get past 13 in ob so there you have it its stupid.

    'cept that from May 10th they're opening up the full game in the open Beta, not just Tortage (and with no more level cap). So those with the inclination can find out for themselves.

    yes, they can find out IN A PVP GANKFEST.

    Who do you think will actually survive long enough to make it to higher levels and truly being to explore and craft?

    Um.... nobody?!?

    'nuff said.



    Man, Funcom really can't win can they? Got you carebears on the one side decrying the game as a "PvP Gankfest", got the so-called 'hardcore' PVPers on the other side saying it's too limited and restricted. It's a wonder anyone bothers to develop any games at all these days in the face of all this bitter resentment.
  • BigMangoBigMango Member UncommonPosts: 1,821

     

    Originally posted by Ikonic




    i don't think it was a miracle patch everyone is claiming it to be, It appears that the major change they did to improve performance for some is that they turned off the debugger...

     

     

    Amazing how much bullshit people can spin just for the sake of negativity.

    LOL, now the debugger was turned off in CB, what else are we going to hear? FYI the debugger has been assigned new shortcut keys and is working very fine. Features have even been improved as we now have access to things like enabling the world wind, which makes the trees sway in the wind, like the grass.

     

     

  • gnetogneto Member Posts: 11
    Originally posted by BigMango


     
    Originally posted by Ikonic




    i don't think it was a miracle patch everyone is claiming it to be, It appears that the major change they did to improve performance for some is that they turned off the debugger...

     

     

    Amazing how much bullshit people can spin just for the sake of negativity.

    LOL, now the debugger was turned off in CB, what else are we going to hear? FYI the debugger has been assigned new shortcut keys and is working very fine. Features have even been improved as we now have access to things like enabling the world wind, which makes the trees sway in the wind, like the grass.

     

     



    Could you tell me what the new  shortcut is? Id like to try it out.

  • BigMangoBigMango Member UncommonPosts: 1,821

    Originally posted by gneto




    Could you tell me what the new  shortcut is? Id like to try it out.

    Left CTRL + Right SHIFT + C

     

  • COORSCOORS Member UncommonPosts: 353

    Originally posted by Aragon100


     
    Originally posted by TheGreyMan


    its as if people dont want this to do well :p
    someone say the game has improved people dont belive them.....
    Improved for some and getting worse for others.

     

    Why dont fanbois inform us about the whole picture. Instead they just write the positive stuff and leave the negative out, pathetic.


    Another troll post from Aragon...

    For those of you that don't know him, he's a Darkfall fanboy on a crusade against AOC. Anything he says needs to be taken with a grain of salt.

    Also, he has NEVER actually played AOC, so his opinions are worthless. Check out his post history to see the many defamatory comments he's made over the past months, and you will see what kind of low-life he is.

    And Aragon, you are truly the "pathetic" one here.

  • COORSCOORS Member UncommonPosts: 353

    Originally posted by DeadDingo

    Originally posted by VultureSkull


    The amount of energy and time spent on arguing about AoC is quite remarkable.
    Considering that the game is changing on a daily basis, it is quite furtile arguing about performance etc.
    And the game is still in beta lol! This ISN'T BETA.  It's a marketing program. 
    What will it be like when it is released? a steaming pile of doggie doo doo
     
    As the previous post said, AoC is not for everyone, if it is not for you and you are here arguing about then you have to much time on your hands period. yes, i do


     
    If it is for you then rest assured that FUNCOM is doing all it can to get this game in a good shape, and will continue to do so after release, it is not their first game so they do have experience. they have experience in a pathetic launch that they *will* repeat yet again.
    Hey, it's what they know and have experience for isn't it?

    I used to be a huge advocate for freedom of speech, and still am to some lessor degree.

    But... There's a limit to what normal people should have to listen to. I can't stop adults, who are morons, from voicing their stupid opinions, but having to listen to 12 year old children, who haven't discovered their 2 inch e-peens yet, is a bit much.

    You and Aragon100 should get together in real life. Would make a perfect fit.

  • kikinchazkikinchaz Member UncommonPosts: 562

    Indeed the patch has made the game so so much more enjoyable and I cant stress it enough.

     

    My rig is just below the recommended specs and its running on Medium settings with shadows off and 4x AA, and is running super smooth and looks so much better than it did 2 days ago before the patch!! So excited for the launch after the patch. They should seriously just roll it out to the OB to show you guys how awesome it is :)

     

    First time ive ever had devs said they've made performance boosts and seriously mean it. Considering ive gone from Low settings to Medium with an FPS boost it says it all.

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  • ethionethion Member UncommonPosts: 2,888

     

    Originally posted by openedge1


     
    Originally posted by ethion


    It's my opinion.  I'm tired to hell of hearing people saying how rosy things are when it just doesn't work for me and takes tons of messing to get the game to even load.  So I guess yeah I am calling a ton of people liars if that's the way you want to phrase it.   I'd call it rose colored exageration or wanting something so bad you are willing to overlook things but hey whatever you want to say, I'm just frustrated.
    Really it's all about funcom.  If they really got a fix, lets see it.  I'll be one of the first cheering when I can load the game and not have to worry about it crashing or just plain not working.  I mean let me ask you.  Just name one reason why funcom wouldn't want to release a patch to open beta to make it work properly if such a patch exists.  I mean really can anyone name a single reasonable downside to doing that!?!?  And if you can't then why aren't they doing it?
     
    The highlighted words are key here...Your opinion is it runs horrible...my opinion is it runs great..

     

    One person here even has video of how OB was running...smooth as silk...but, maybe they are liars too...hard to say...could be faked even..

    Sorry there is something wrong on your system to make it run bad...but, it is like when  people kept calling me a liar when I told them LOTRO run like ass ( and still does to this day...after checking out their free preview weekend..logged off and went back to play AoC)...I even had video of the hitching issues...but I was still a liar...(everyone said it was my "opinion"...even with proof..)

    AoC runs awesome for me, and many others...and it sounds like release is gonna rock..

    Later

     

    No you misread me.  It is my opinion that a lot of the AoC community posting about CB are all rosy eyed and what they say isn't a reliable indication of the state of the game.  It was probably working for them to begin with and the people that it doesn't work with probably don't play...

    What isn't opinion is that the open beta doesn't work on my computer out of the box at all.  You can say it is my computer but I strongly doubt that my computer is distinctive other then being high end of the food chain.  I can also say that of my two friend that tried the beta it did not work for them either and that after I convinced them to download the fileplanet beta they tried it but weren't able to get it running and just went back to wow after deciding AoC was too buggy.

    I have a computer running windows xp 32 bit sp2, quad core intel, 4gb, 8800gtx.  I installed it from scratch maybe 4 weeks ago following my hard disk dying.  So it is a clean install with the latest firmware, patches, and drivers.  I have tried running AoC with a variety of video drivers with mixed results.

    My problem is if I install AoC and click the run button it will patch and update fine but then it will crash when it starts loading the video.  I have posted a list of hacks you can do to get it working that I've laboriously discovered by reading through game error logs and trying to decypher why it is crashing.  I can actually get the game running most of the time but it takes 15-45 minutes messing with it and several reboots till I get it.  Not even close to what I'd want to see from a released product.  I have 4 buddies I play with frequently.  Of these buddies 2 tried the game and think it is hopelessly buggy.  They conviced the other 2 to not even bother.  I like the game and being a hard core fan am trying to fight through the bugs and make as much noise about it as possible with the hope that funcom can redeem themselves. 

    So it's great that you can get into the game.  But there is an unspoken community of people out here who can not.  If funcom doesn't fix this then this game will take a big hit at release.  Even the GB miracle patch is not working for some people.  There are people claiming that after the patch the game is just crashing for them.   So did the GB fix anything other then increasing FPS and making pretty graphics?  Those are good things but are nothing if you can't actually reliably load and run the game without crashing.  For me the performance while not amazing is plenty good for me to enjoy the game.  For me all I care about is having the game load up and stay up once it is running.

    So really I'm jealous that the game runs great for you.   But I want it to run great for me and if I don't speak up then it likely never will since most people don't bother to say anything they just walk away... 

     

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    Ethion

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