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Darkfall vs warhammer graphics

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  • tazarconantazarconan Member Posts: 1,013

    It seems df' photo looks more hellish realistic

    war's orc photo looks funny and bit cartoonish

    Just check the atmosphere around the orc in df's photo ,more dark ,bit hellish like ,an dofc the shining in the prc's armour .. looks way better than war's pic

  • ste2000ste2000 Member EpicPosts: 6,194
    Originally posted by tazarconan


    It seems df' photo looks more hellish realistic
    war's orc photo looks funny and bit cartoonish
    Just check the atmosphere around the orc in df's photo ,more dark ,bit hellish like ,an dofc the shining in the prc's armour .. looks way better than war's pic

     

    Exactly, I expected from WAR more of the actual DF graphic, as it is WAR don't really feel like Warhammer.

  • javacjavac Member Posts: 1,175

    i'm playing War at the moment, War graphics are pretty meh... Darkfall graphics are streets ahead of both War and WOW from a technical and aesthetic standpoint IMO.

  • Aragon100Aragon100 Member RarePosts: 2,686
    Originally posted by cukimunga

    Originally posted by Aragon100

    Originally posted by cukimunga

    Originally posted by Boen2009

    Originally posted by darkfallb


    Warhammer's graphical style (and UI lol) just invokes too many thoughts of wow for me.  I like darkfall's style, it's unique.

    I wholeheartedly concur, good sir.

     

    I call WAR WoWHammer online... i mean yes, the graphics are slightly better than WoW.. and they have a couple more features, but it seemed like I started playing WoW again when i played WAR.

     

    And when youve beaten the living crap out of WoW and waited for new content for months just to have your endgame gear vendored, and keep doing the same thing you always did when it does come out, you feel that your time in this style of MMO is at its end.

     

    Im sure WAR will end up alot better than WoW, but its just not what im looking for anymore. My days of playing a linear game are over for awhile. 

     

    The greenskin  reminded me a lot of WoW as well as the  Evergreen trees but every other zone looks nothing like WoW and looking more to LOTRO style.  But with Blizzard taking the Warhammer art and tweaking it to their own that's why they have similar art styles.   But WAR's textures are way better than WoW no doubt about that. You will notice the difference when you zoom into things.

     

    But Darkfall's graphics really are not that bad I just don't like the style of the art, character models look funny to me but the environments look good.  But its really hard to compare the 2 kinds of games because its both different types of art style and graphics. It all comes down to personal preference.

     



     

    ROFL. Darkfall graphic style is exactly what is 100% superior to Warhammer cartoon graphics. If you dont see this then you have very poor taste or is a Warhammer fanbois. I know you have a record of being the second choice.

     

    Christ is that all you have to say in 5 posts in a row?  Ok we get it you don't like the "Cartoonish" graphics, who cares?  Its only opinions anyways and saying that people have very poor taste, thats just being an asshat. People like different things why can't you just except it and live your life instead of putting others down just because they dont agree. 

    Yeah I can say Im a fanboi big deal and your a darkfall fanboi big deal.  You like your game, I like my game.  People can argue this till the cows come home and nobody will ever change the others mind.

     

     



     

    So why do you post on Darkfall board if you have no interest in the game Darkfall?

    You dont find me over at Warhammer board.

    This thread is a comparison about the graphics of two games. One have cartoonish graphic style and to me that style is just plain awful. Playing Warhammer is like playing a disney movie. The ones that enjoy that kind of graphic have in my eyes a very poor taste according to graphic style.

     

  • ScriarScriar Member Posts: 772

    From the screen shots I have seen, and videos, as well as having actually played Warhammer. I would say War has better character models (Except from the elves, in War the male elfs look like a sex change gone wrong), and Darkfall appears to have better environments.

    But overall both of the games graphics suck, they deffinatly are not, or going to be the strong points of these games. Which is not surprising because both games want to have large scale fighting which will not happen if you have good graphics.

    War has a gritty cartoonish style which imo looks like WoW with a higher polygon count and a dreary colour pallete, the world feels very bland, and uninspired when actually playing the game. Darkfall is out dated plain and simple, and it has no real defining graphic style which is why I think the quality of graphics is so noticible. But we would have to actually play it to see if it is so bad it detracts from the game, you can not really tell from a screenshot or video how the game will actually feel when you play it.

    Either way its the gameplay that matters, War could look like AoC, it would not save it from being the mediocre game it is at the moment. It remains to be seen what Darkfall is like.

  • xaldraxiusxaldraxius Member Posts: 1,249

    Darkfall is going to have tons of clipping issues, and from what I see no variance in armor at all. It'll be ok as a PvP game for a while, but it'll have little to no individuality, and so will have very little reason for people to keep playing.

    It'll have less ways to make your character stand out than WAR, and people are already bitching about WAR.

    It'll be really popular for about a month after release, then most of the casual crowd and roleplaying crowd will leave, as well as some of the PvP crowd. Then 3 months after that it's only the rabid fanbois remaining. I give this game a year before numbers drop so far that SOE snatches it up. But hey, it may get on the Station Pass so it could keep going forever for those 300 guys that are left playing it.

  • IsaneIsane Member UncommonPosts: 2,630
    Originally posted by xaldraxius


    Darkfall is going to have tons of clipping issues, and from what I see no variance in armor at all. It'll be ok as a PvP game for a while, but it'll have little to no individuality, and so will have very little reason for people to keep playing.
    It'll have less ways to make your character stand out than WAR, and people are already bitching about WAR.
    It'll be really popular for about a month after release, then most of the casual crowd and roleplaying crowd will leave, as well as some of the PvP crowd. Then 3 months after that it's only the rabid fanbois remaining. I give this game a year before numbers drop so far that SOE snatches it up. But hey, it may get on the Station Pass so it could keep going forever for those 300 guys that are left playing it.



     

    Clueless post the item variety in DFO is awesome but then again you wouldn't know that. Dev posts exist that detail this... If you wan't the link go to the Official forumns...

    The environmental tracking in the gam,e is based around varieties in cloth through leather to metalic and reflective armors, detailed and documented so not sure what you are on about.

     

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  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441

    Just by judging the both screenshots I would say DF is best.

    On the other hand the game isn't out yet but most people her agrees that WARs graphics isn't it's strongest point.

    If we would compare DF with AoC or Spellborn it isn't so easy anymore.

    But anyways we can't really say that DF is better or worse than WAR before we at least tried both. And that goes for everything about it, everything is just speculations. But sure what I seen so far of DF looks very nice but I nned to see more.

  • Cochran1Cochran1 Member Posts: 456

    The Darkfall screen looks just like EQ2 orcs to me. To compare art style in WAR, seems almost dead on to what the Warhammer name has always been. A friend of mine used to say that the art style and animation in EQ2 is what used to keep him from playing it. For some reason Darkfall art style looks just like EQ2 to me.

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  • neonwireneonwire Member Posts: 1,787
    Originally posted by EndDream


    edited pics should work:
    Darkfall:
    http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/visuals/ork_capital?full=1
    vs
    Warhammer:
    http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/armiesofWAR/greenskins/BlackOrc05.jpg
     
    this is not a bashing of warhammer, I have no problem with it, im not a graphics whore so warhammers graphics are fine to me... just thought his was interesting



     

    What do you mean your not bashing Warhammer? Shouldnt that be the other way round? Its clearly obvious that the Orc from Warhammer looks much better than that weird thing that passes for an Orc in Darkfall. The Darkfall pic looks like my gran with her dentures taken out.

  • Thoric485Thoric485 Member UncommonPosts: 525
    Originally posted by xaldraxius


    Darkfall is going to have tons of clipping issues, and from what I see no variance in armor at all. It'll be ok as a PvP game for a while, but it'll have little to no individuality, and so will have very little reason for people to keep playing.
    It'll have less ways to make your character stand out than WAR, and people are already bitching about WAR.
    It'll be really popular for about a month after release, then most of the casual crowd and roleplaying crowd will leave, as well as some of the PvP crowd. Then 3 months after that it's only the rabid fanbois remaining. I give this game a year before numbers drop so far that SOE snatches it up. But hey, it may get on the Station Pass so it could keep going forever for those 300 guys that are left playing it.

    I just can't resist trollbait.

    There are clipping issues in WoW 4 years after it's release. Hell, there is even absolutely no character collision there but 9 milion put up with it so i don't think it will be a game breaker.

    And how do you see someone's character "stand out" in WoW or WAR?

    Example: www.ea.com/redalert/news-detail.jsp

    While in bear form, players can run around and show off. Bragging is very important in WAR. Taunting your foes and showing off is an integral part of the game experience. While the helm gives no actual stat bonuses, you get to turn into a frikkin bear! How cool is that?

     

    This is not "standing out" or if it is it's a twisted form of what standing out should mean in MMOs. All i see now are generic classes with generic gear and generic skills. No one matters in the world, they're just being told that they are great heroes by NPCs while the world has frozen in time and you won't change shit except the number next to your character's name.

    What Aventurine are promising is the main idea of the MMO genre - a living, breathing player-run virtual world. Something many failed to deliver throughout the recent years and i hope Darkfall will fill that  gap.

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  • Artjom2Artjom2 Member Posts: 20

    Darkfall is so much better... tsk tsk

  • HeokinHeokin Member Posts: 26

    I have to say comparing graphics to a game that has been released to one that hasnt even made beta is quite absurd. 

    Secondly, Your examples are horrible by comparison and is exceptionally biased.  You have obviously picked a polished  darkfall shot to compare vs a rather meager War shot. Next time post a screen shot of a brand new porche and ask if its better than the screen of an old  mustang covered in mud.  Im sure people will always say that the porche is better looking.

    Interesting subject but poor examples I give this thread a 5/10

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  • BlodplsBlodpls Member Posts: 1,454
    Originally posted by Thoric485



    And how do you see someone's character "stand out" in WoW or WAR?
    Example: www.ea.com/redalert/news-detail.jsp
    While in bear form, players can run around and show off. Bragging is very important in WAR. Taunting your foes and showing off is an integral part of the game experience. While the helm gives no actual stat bonuses, you get to turn into a frikkin bear! How cool is that?
    This is not "standing out" or if it is it's a twisted form of what standing out should mean in MMOs. All i see now are generic classes with generic gear and generic skills. No one matters in the world, they're just being told that they are great heroes by NPCs while the world has frozen in time and you won't change shit except the number next to your character's name.

     


     

    That's truly aweful. 

    This is a fine example of repugnant EA stealth micro transactions.

    I want nothing to do with pay to play games that practice such marketing techniques.

    This kind of activity should stay firmly in the realm of free to play games.

     

  • GravebladeGraveblade Member UncommonPosts: 547

    Woot nice screenies there seggalion, i like i like.

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  • ganbeeganbee Member Posts: 233

    My, Momma says,

    "People play WAR, cause they got all them teeth and no toothbrush!" No seriously, when I first started following this game I thought the graphics where horrid. I was still going too play the game due to the features it promised. In the last couple of months and new screens being posted,it looks like they focused hardcore on graphics and it looks nice. Just hope it doesn't take away from gameplay and cause issues with performance.

  • cukimungacukimunga Member UncommonPosts: 2,258
    Originally posted by Aragon100

    Originally posted by cukimunga

    Originally posted by Aragon100

    Originally posted by cukimunga

    Originally posted by Boen2009

    Originally posted by darkfallb


    Warhammer's graphical style (and UI lol) just invokes too many thoughts of wow for me.  I like darkfall's style, it's unique.

    I wholeheartedly concur, good sir.

     

    I call WAR WoWHammer online... i mean yes, the graphics are slightly better than WoW.. and they have a couple more features, but it seemed like I started playing WoW again when i played WAR.

     

    And when youve beaten the living crap out of WoW and waited for new content for months just to have your endgame gear vendored, and keep doing the same thing you always did when it does come out, you feel that your time in this style of MMO is at its end.

     

    Im sure WAR will end up alot better than WoW, but its just not what im looking for anymore. My days of playing a linear game are over for awhile. 

     

    The greenskin  reminded me a lot of WoW as well as the  Evergreen trees but every other zone looks nothing like WoW and looking more to LOTRO style.  But with Blizzard taking the Warhammer art and tweaking it to their own that's why they have similar art styles.   But WAR's textures are way better than WoW no doubt about that. You will notice the difference when you zoom into things.

     

    But Darkfall's graphics really are not that bad I just don't like the style of the art, character models look funny to me but the environments look good.  But its really hard to compare the 2 kinds of games because its both different types of art style and graphics. It all comes down to personal preference.

     



     

    ROFL. Darkfall graphic style is exactly what is 100% superior to Warhammer cartoon graphics. If you dont see this then you have very poor taste or is a Warhammer fanbois. I know you have a record of being the second choice.

     

    Christ is that all you have to say in 5 posts in a row?  Ok we get it you don't like the "Cartoonish" graphics, who cares?  Its only opinions anyways and saying that people have very poor taste, thats just being an asshat. People like different things why can't you just except it and live your life instead of putting others down just because they dont agree. 

    Yeah I can say Im a fanboi big deal and your a darkfall fanboi big deal.  You like your game, I like my game.  People can argue this till the cows come home and nobody will ever change the others mind.

     

     



     

    So why do you post on Darkfall board if you have no interest in the game Darkfall?

    You dont find me over at Warhammer board.

    This thread is a comparison about the graphics of two games. One have cartoonish graphic style and to me that style is just plain awful. Playing Warhammer is like playing a disney movie. The ones that enjoy that kind of graphic have in my eyes a very poor taste according to graphic style.

     

    Maybe because I like to talk about different games. Just because I have no interest in came don't mean I can't voice my opinion. Truth is you can argue that DF has cartoonish graphics, its just a differenty style of cartoon animation.

  • javacjavac Member Posts: 1,175
    Originally posted by cukimunga

    Maybe because I like to talk about different games. Just because I have no interest in came don't mean I can't voice my opinion. Truth is you can argue that DF has cartoonish graphics, its just a differenty style of cartoon animation.

     

    Sorry but DF does not have a cartoonish style, at all.

  • javacjavac Member Posts: 1,175
    Originally posted by xaldraxius


    Darkfall is going to have tons of clipping issues, and from what I see no variance in armor at all. It'll be ok as a PvP game for a while, but it'll have little to no individuality, and so will have very little reason for people to keep playing.

    this has got to be a troll, cause DF is exactly the opposite of what you say. Darkfall screams individuality compared to contemporary MMOs.

     

    the reason people will play DF is for the freedom it offers, and the adrenaline pumping PVP, not this semi-AFK BG & scenario farming i always see in War and WOW.

  • Aragon100Aragon100 Member RarePosts: 2,686
    Originally posted by javac

    Originally posted by cukimunga

    Maybe because I like to talk about different games. Just because I have no interest in came don't mean I can't voice my opinion. Truth is you can argue that DF has cartoonish graphics, its just a differenty style of cartoon animation.

     

    Sorry but DF does not have a cartoonish style, at all.



     

    Agree. Darkfall dont have cartoonish graphic style.

  • NoimiNoimi Member Posts: 76

    The entire issue I have with realism-driven graphics is that, a year or two down the line, its going to start to look dated. A, "cartoonish," style graphics game, while in the present may not look as appealing, will stand the test of time longer in terms of visual appeal. The issue comes when whether you prefer realism over a more cartoonish style, neither of them I mind, but I think over a longer period of time, I'll probably be more impressed with war then darkfall.

  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    Originally posted by Noimi


    The entire issue I have with realism-driven graphics is that, a year or two down the line, its going to start to look dated. A, "cartoonish," style graphics game, while in the present may not look as appealing, will stand the test of time longer in terms of visual appeal. The issue comes when whether you prefer realism over a more cartoonish style, neither of them I mind, but I think over a longer period of time, I'll probably be more impressed with war then darkfall.

    I am not so sure about that. EQ2 and Wow come out the same month and the graphics of EQ2 don't look more dated than Wow now. And Guildwars is more realistic than Wow and come out a few months later, it look still a lot better.

    What do you have for examples of that?

  • SgtFrogSgtFrog Member Posts: 5,001
    Originally posted by Loke666

    Originally posted by Noimi


    The entire issue I have with realism-driven graphics is that, a year or two down the line, its going to start to look dated. A, "cartoonish," style graphics game, while in the present may not look as appealing, will stand the test of time longer in terms of visual appeal. The issue comes when whether you prefer realism over a more cartoonish style, neither of them I mind, but I think over a longer period of time, I'll probably be more impressed with war then darkfall.

    I am not so sure about that. EQ2 and Wow come out the same month and the graphics of EQ2 don't look more dated than Wow now. And Guildwars is more realistic than Wow and come out a few months later, it look still a lot better.

    What do you have for examples of that?

    Lineage 2 came out in 2003 and it has anime style graphics shadow bane came out in the same year and went for a more realism than cartoonsih,

    and if you look at them now shadow bane looks mush more dated that lineage 2

     

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  • NoimiNoimi Member Posts: 76
    Originally posted by Loke666

    Originally posted by Noimi


    The entire issue I have with realism-driven graphics is that, a year or two down the line, its going to start to look dated. A, "cartoonish," style graphics game, while in the present may not look as appealing, will stand the test of time longer in terms of visual appeal. The issue comes when whether you prefer realism over a more cartoonish style, neither of them I mind, but I think over a longer period of time, I'll probably be more impressed with war then darkfall.

    I am not so sure about that. EQ2 and Wow come out the same month and the graphics of EQ2 don't look more dated than Wow now. And Guildwars is more realistic than Wow and come out a few months later, it look still a lot better.

    What do you have for examples of that?

    I would like to say I'm using cartoonish because I'm not entirely sure how to put more artistically driven rather then realistically driven graphics aside from that. Realism is an art form, but in terms of graphics, it easily subjects itself to the changing of texturing, shadowing, and atmosphere techniques and possiblities. at least, more so then a game like WoW would. It will be easy for a game like darkfall to be left open for attack because of the direction they decided to go with the graphics in the long term.

    Actually, eq2 -does- look more dated then WoW, and this will be more appearant after lich king when they itnroduce dynamic shadows. When they came out so long ago, eq2 did look better, but as people's ideas of what realistic graphics could be expanded eq2's appeal graphically diminished in kunark and older zones, the fae expansion not so much but graphically it felt so disconnected from the rest of the game, it could very well be sad to be more artistically driven visually, and faydark is beautiful in it.

    Half life 2, an amazing looking game, not really so much now. same with battlefield 2. With the rise of new visualization techniques, these games sort of died with newer fps's coming out such as farcry 2 or left4dead (games I also think will look dated in a few years).

    Also, to say guild wars graphics are realistic is lying to yourself, i would say its more artistically driven then that considering how much some scenes in it look like a painting. It holds up well graphically because of its ability to create scenery that is more reflected as being surreal.

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