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Athens Presentation (High Resolution Video)
UbberGoober
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OMG Awesome, I have been blown away detail is superb.
Go to top of the page, click on the second link I tried putting it here but it does not work from here for some reason you gotta go there and click it.
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=74753&page=11
Darkfall is coming.
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link is not working
just copy paste to browser
but for the lazy I deliver
forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php
Not that graphics are going to make this game, gameplay will, but those most certainly shows the game is a bit long in the tooth graphics wise. If you are impressed by those graphics, you have not played any MMO in the last 5 years at all.
Still waiting for beta to start. Hopefully it will be soon or we won't see the game this year.
Not bad at all. Some of the lighting was good on the backs of some of the characters. Animations still look a bit weak but its still beta. I'm looking forward to giving it a go.
WTF news presenter based on LOTRO??
but those most certainly shows the game is a bit long in the tooth graphics wise. If you are impressed by those graphics, you have not played any MMO in the last 5 years at all.
I played plenty of games, aside from Age of Conan there is no other game on the market that has this kind of detail not even Warhammer which I am playing right now. The graphics for darkfall look very crisp, which I can't say for vast majority of the games out there, most screenshots and previous videos that we have seen don't do this game any justice.
now that was some actual gameplay - no one can deny that
character animations were pretty crappy and should we have to suffer skating these days - nope but there it is
the entire time i was watching that central character i was wondering how he could see where he was going while holding that big club before his face
water seems to have been improved since the last big video - quite a bit actually
good lighting too
now if only the beta would start - we know when it ends but when does it begin???
Those ships are still ugly as heck! I really want to yell at them for doing a crap job on them. I am still not impressed by the graphics.
But as other have say gameplay is better than graphics.
I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but seriously that second video made me feel like I was watching a Heretic II video.
YAY!
i think what we saw of the ships and their battle was from the previous video (at least i hope so)
Its based on Lord of the rings? What the hell are they talking about?
Technically all fantasy based MMOs are based on JRR Tolkien's work. Tolkein started everything there is to do with fantasy. He was simply making a reference that most people would connect with.
actually it's based on an old engine with no dynamic loading system lol
Seriously.. based on this video the game looks just terrible. I can't imagine how anyone could get excited over something like that. The gameplay looks like it's non existent or composed of nothing but mindless hack and slash..
and the graphics look severely outdated. It's not so much because their using older tech , but the actual art work and modelling itself is not very good which just makes it look worse..
WoW for example is very low poly.. but they have awesome artists who know how to properly model and texture low poly and still make it look quality.
For some reason, I cant enter the DF forum, can somebody please link me directly to the video?
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http://darkfallworld.com/node/125
The last 5 years has given us this.
www.morearnings.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/wow-horde-level-59-2.jpg
and this
news.filefront.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/warhammeronlineork52606.jpg
Here's graphics from 8 years ago.
ivory.vnunet.com/images/software/ubisoft/dark-age-camelot-labyrinth/large.jpg
Uhhh....I'll take the "outdated graphics". The only games that have actually pushed graphics lately are Vanguard and Age of Conan, and neither of those did very well.
Here's Darkfall, compare it with the others.
www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/visuals/ork_capital
Easy to see whats long in the tooth here.
Darkfall Travelogues!
I understand the DF dev team is small but Imo they really need to find a way to upgrade that graphics engine.
You guys can say Gameplay>Graphics all you want but its a fact that games with shitty graphics turn away potential customers. Just ask the AO devs if bad graphics don't hurt a game.
I'm going to play this but the graphics almost totally kill it for me.
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actually it's based on an old engine with no dynamic loading system lol
Seriously.. based on this video the game looks just terrible. I can't imagine how anyone could get excited over something like that. The gameplay looks like it's non existent or composed of nothing but mindless hack and slash..
and the graphics look severely outdated. It's not so much because their using older tech , but the actual art work and modelling itself is not very good which just makes it look worse..
WoW for example is very low poly.. but they have awesome artists who know how to properly model and texture low poly and still make it look quality.
"Seriously.. based on this video the game looks just terrible. I can't imagine how anyone could get excited over something like that. The gameplay looks like it's non existent or composed of nothing but mindless hack and slash.." funny enough WoW video footage from before it's release was exactly the same kind of thing, looked all about combat and nothing else..
"and the graphics look severely outdated. It's not so much because their using older tech , but the actual art work and modelling itself is not very good which just makes it look worse.." Yet again graphics do not make a game, not anymore, people have been impressed with high end graphics for MMORPG's and found the content lacking and either left or didn't bother buying. Content and gameplay are what make or break a game today.
"WoW for example is very low poly.. but they have awesome artists who know how to properly model and texture low poly and still make it look quality." i'm sorry m8 but i disagree with you there, the SCENERY in WoW may look nice but the characters and their animations are anything but "quality"
I used WoW as an example because you brought it up but the same applies to pretty much all MMO's these days.
Graphics may turn away potential customers but gameplay and content keep those that gave it a try.. I'll use Age of Conan as an example here, awesome graphics, yet it's the second worst game i've ever played content wise. (for those that are wondering GuildWars is top of my worst content games)
Way to ignore my post. If bad graphics hurt games, then WoW would never have gotten past 10k subs, and Darkfall is lightyears ahead of WoW. I have no idea where this poor graphics argument came from. No, its not top notch, but I've seen what happens when you try to have PvP with "top notch graphics", or raids even.
Raids in Vanguard crash most people because of the graphics. PvP in Age of Conan is limited to 24 people that get an average of 10 FPS while fighting.
Even with this in mind, Darkfall has TWITCH fighting, like an FPS, lag is a big deal. They can't have "next gen" graphics. But you know, they really don't need to, cause its still better graphics than the two top MMOs right now . Again, see my post and don't bypass it.
The last 5 years has given us this.
www.morearnings.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/wow-horde-level-59-2.jpg
and this
news.filefront.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/warhammeronlineork52606.jpg
Here's graphics from 8 years ago.
ivory.vnunet.com/images/software/ubisoft/dark-age-camelot-labyrinth/large.jpg
Uhhh....I'll take the "outdated graphics". The only games that have actually pushed graphics lately are Vanguard and Age of Conan, and neither of those did very well.
Here's Darkfall, compare it with the others.
www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/visuals/ork_capital
Easy to see whats long in the tooth here.
Darkfall Travelogues!
Graphics may turn away potential customers but gameplay and content keep those that gave it a try.. I'll use Age of Conan as an example here, awesome graphics, yet it's the second worst game i've ever played content wise. (for those that are wondering GuildWars is top of my worst content games)
I dont know about that Guildwars is like Diablo with a city hub instead of a chat lobby I don't consider it a MMO.
Anyway, Even if DF has amazing gameplay if graphics are really bad people wont even give it a shot.
I use AO as an example since its actually an extremely good game features wise and is ahead of a bunch of these wow clones with the exception of graphics. The graphics are the reason that game has 25k subs the gameplay doesn't matter if players can't stay logged in more than five minutes due to shoddy graphics.
Right now DF looks like it came out before Half-life 2.
Playing: Nothing
Looking forward to: Nothing
Graphics may turn away potential customers but gameplay and content keep those that gave it a try.. I'll use Age of Conan as an example here, awesome graphics, yet it's the second worst game i've ever played content wise. (for those that are wondering GuildWars is top of my worst content games)
I dont know about that Guildwars is like Diablo with a city hub instead of a chat lobby I don't consider it a MMO.
Anyway, Even if DF has amazing gameplay if graphics are really bad people wont even give it a shot.
I use AO as an example since its actually an extremely good game features wise and is ahead of a bunch of these wow clones with the exception of graphics. The graphics are the reason that game has 25k subs the gameplay doesn't matter if players can't stay logged in more than five minutes due to shoddy graphics.
Right now DF looks like it came out before Half-life 2.
Anarchy Online failed because it had a horrible launch, and the lag made it nearly unplayable.
And Half Life 2 graphics are still great.
Darkfall Travelogues!
Way to ignore my post. If bad graphics hurt games, then WoW would never have gotten past 10k subs, and Darkfall is lightyears ahead of WoW. I have no idea where this poor graphics argument came from. No, its not top notch, but I've seen what happens when you try to have PvP with "top notch graphics", or raids even.
Raids in Vanguard crash most people because of the graphics. PvP in Age of Conan is limited to 24 people that get an average of 10 FPS while fighting.
Even with this in mind, Darkfall has TWITCH fighting, like an FPS, lag is a big deal. They can't have "next gen" graphics. But you know, they really don't need to, cause its still better graphics than the two top MMOs right now . Again, see my post and don't bypass it.
While I don't play WoW, I'm not that much of a hater to actually say WoW has bad graphics.
Its stylized so the graphics are actually good, the game world in WoW looks just as good as any other MMO with the exception of maybe Lotro and AoC. DF looks like it is a five year old game. Sure you can take a wierd angle shot of DF with reflections on and make it look decent (i could with any MMO) .
Just look at the game in action, that archer toward the end of the video looks hideous. the character models look blocky, and the Structures look like they came out of Hexen 2.
While I am waiting for DF just like you I can already tell the Graphics will be a big let down, I just hope the gameplay is perfect cause it needs to be to make up for 2004 graphics.
Playing: Nothing
Looking forward to: Nothing
Graphics may turn away potential customers but gameplay and content keep those that gave it a try.. I'll use Age of Conan as an example here, awesome graphics, yet it's the second worst game i've ever played content wise. (for those that are wondering GuildWars is top of my worst content games)
I dont know about that Guildwars is like Diablo with a city hub instead of a chat lobby I don't consider it a MMO.
Anyway, Even if DF has amazing gameplay if graphics are really bad people wont even give it a shot.
I use AO as an example since its actually an extremely good game features wise and is ahead of a bunch of these wow clones with the exception of graphics. The graphics are the reason that game has 25k subs the gameplay doesn't matter if players can't stay logged in more than five minutes due to shoddy graphics.
Right now DF looks like it came out before Half-life 2.
Anarchy Online failed because it had a horrible launch, and the lag made it nearly unplayable.
And Half Life 2 graphics are still great.
I stand corrected HL2 looks cooler than DF sorry.
Playing: Nothing
Looking forward to: Nothing