What we see here is a chain of verifications and confirmations .. Tasos Dev journals, the game play vid, Athens vid, the Beta quotes, The press (p)review all fits together ... If it would be another company no one would question the legitimity of this at this point.. So please stop do this , so we can move to talks about Feature list..like the amazing possibility of sandbox Naval Walfare not seen in any MMO today ..
Actually there were quite a few of us making just as big of a fuss in Vanguard, PotBS, AoC, WAR, DDO, and pretty much every game that we have followed and Beta-tested.
Perhaps you missed all the people complaing during Vanguard's Beta that they were not allowing anyone to test all their advanced features they had been promising? Turns out we were right.
Perhaps you missed all the people complaining during AoC's Beta that they were not allowing anyone to test the City Sieging and High-Level City Building aspects of the game. Turns out we were right.
Perhaps you missed all the people compaining during WAR's Beta that the way that RvR was designed was not going to work. Turns out we were right.
So yeah... there have been skeptics in pretty much EVERY game's Beta. The issues have been raised about every game when the statements of the Devs are not followed through with reality.
It's not our fault that you seemed to have missed that for every other game... because it was there.
We will continue to question the testing of Housing, City Building, City Seiges, Ship Building, Naval Combat, and all advanced features that have been listed as features of DarkFall. There have been no Beta Tester reports of testing any of that. Every single MMO that I've played has always used the arguement... we want to save something for the players to discover... it's BS.
Everytime those high-end features are POS when we finally get to play them. Why? Because they were NOT tested thoroughly. It's our hope that DarkFall may finally listen and have them actually done and working when they release the game. Is that such a bad thing to want?
Why MMORPG Italia? Am I missing something? Is Tasos Italian, but living in Greece or something? Or are these Italian guys Greek living in Italy and working at MMORPG Italia? What's the connection? In otherwords, why not MMORPG Greece, France, England, or Germany?
I seems that these 2 italian guys were the only ones who ASKED to see the game. Apparently you can go play it if you just call Tasos and ASK.
Aventurine sure knows how to do good marketing. I heard the only way to buy the game when it releases in late 2009 is to fly to Athens, walk to their offices and hand them 40 euros cash.
----------------------------- Originally posted by Frobner "Massive sieges" "mounted combat" and "spellweaving" are just few words that spring to mind when I hear the word AOC.... But the word FAILURE will always top the list.
I dont Darkfall's PVP can possibly stink half as bad as Age of Conan / WAR, I was in beta for both of those and it seemed like pvp barely got tested for AoC if at all? WAR we got to test the PVP but common sense / experience would tell anyone that game was going to suffer from balance issues.
Darkfall's pvp sounds very hopeful too me looking at all the positive beta reports where the testers are actually having fun! That is so rare. Finally a developer with the balls to test out the bare bones pvp functionality from start to finish
Sure, I'd like to see the Naval and City sieges get tested too. But I'm more concerned with getting all the core gameplay fleshed out
But I would hope they'd test it completely because I'm sure some hardcore guilds will be ready to build a city after a week or two
Good times I'm excited. Lots of good info finally coming out
Why MMORPG Italia? Am I missing something? Is Tasos Italian, but living in Greece or something? Or are these Italian guys Greek living in Italy and working at MMORPG Italia? What's the connection? In otherwords, why not MMORPG Greece, France, England, or Germany?
I seems that these 2 italian guys were the only ones who ASKED to see the game. Apparently you can go play it if you just call Tasos and ASK.
Aventurine sure knows how to do good marketing. I heard the only way to buy the game when it releases in late 2009 is to fly to Athens, walk to their offices and hand them 40 euros cash.
True story.
Open beta has already started and will finish as scheduled by early December.
These two people from mmorpgitalia have already played Open beta, you just have to travel to Athens to play Open beta ,what are you all waiting for?
Why MMORPG Italia? Am I missing something? Is Tasos Italian, but living in Greece or something? Or are these Italian guys Greek living in Italy and working at MMORPG Italia? What's the connection? In otherwords, why not MMORPG Greece, France, England, or Germany?
I seems that these 2 italian guys were the only ones who ASKED to see the game. Apparently you can go play it if you just call Tasos and ASK.
Aventurine sure knows how to do good marketing. I heard the only way to buy the game when it releases in late 2009 is to fly to Athens, walk to their offices and hand them 40 euros cash.
True story.
Open beta has already started and will finish as scheduled by early December.
These two people from mmorpgitalia have already played Open beta, you just have to travel to Athens to play Open beta ,what are you all waiting for?
Why didn't someone tell me that earlier? I'm on my way.
However, I do need a little help with the 3K for airfare:
Why MMORPG Italia? Am I missing something? Is Tasos Italian, but living in Greece or something? Or are these Italian guys Greek living in Italy and working at MMORPG Italia? What's the connection? In otherwords, why not MMORPG Greece, France, England, or Germany?
I seems that these 2 italian guys were the only ones who ASKED to see the game. Apparently you can go play it if you just call Tasos and ASK.
Aventurine sure knows how to do good marketing. I heard the only way to buy the game when it releases in late 2009 is to fly to Athens, walk to their offices and hand them 40 euros cash.
True story.
Open beta has already started and will finish as scheduled by early December.
These two people from mmorpgitalia have already played Open beta, you just have to travel to Athens to play Open beta ,what are you all waiting for?
People from Japan are also connected to the server and Beta test...
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I dont Darkfall's PVP can possibly stink half as bad as Age of Conan / WAR, I was in beta for both of those and it seemed like pvp barely got tested for AoC if at all? WAR we got to test the PVP but common sense / experience would tell anyone that game was going to suffer from balance issues. Darkfall's pvp sounds very hopeful too me looking at all the positive beta reports where the testers are actually having fun! That is so rare. Finally a developer with the balls to test out the bare bones pvp functionality from start to finish Sure, I'd like to see the Naval and City sieges get tested too. But I'm more concerned with getting all the core gameplay fleshed out But I would hope they'd test it completely because I'm sure some hardcore guilds will be ready to build a city after a week or two
Good times I'm excited. Lots of good info finally coming out
Bingo!
No matter how long the Devs think it will take players to get to a certain stage... they are always wrong.
Not testing out every single aspect of the game thoroughly with a good-sized number of real Beta Testers is the number one mistake that almost every single MMO makes.
Hopefully DarkFall will not make the same mistake.
True story. Open beta has already started and will finish as scheduled by early December. These two people from mmorpgitalia have already played Open beta, you just have to travel to Athens to play Open beta ,what are you all waiting for?
People from Japan are also connected to the server and Beta test...
Lol, who are these japanese people? Let me guess, there are 2 of them?
Lets see...
- Darkfall is developed in Greece
- 2 unknown italian forum guys reviewed Darkfall beta
- 2 people from Japan have been regularly connecting to Darkfall beta
- 2 eskimos have reached the endgame in open beta?
Come on, people. We all want to see Darkfall launch but can we please stop these redicilous stories? They will launch it when it's ready, probably in 6-12 months.
----------------------------- Originally posted by Frobner "Massive sieges" "mounted combat" and "spellweaving" are just few words that spring to mind when I hear the word AOC.... But the word FAILURE will always top the list.
Lol, who are these japanese people? Let me guess, there are 2 of them? Lets see... - Darkfall is developed in Greece
- 2 unknown italian forum guys reviewed Darkfall beta
- 2 people from Japan have been regularly connecting to Darkfall beta
- 2 eskimos have reached the endgame in open beta? Come on, people. We all want to see Darkfall launch but can we please stop these redicilous stories? They will launch it when it's ready, probably in 6-12 months.
Wrong , DarkFall has no "endgame" like the usual sucker MMO out there, every step in DF will be "Endgame"
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Lol, who are these japanese people? Let me guess, there are 2 of them? Lets see... - Darkfall is developed in Greece
- 2 unknown italian forum guys reviewed Darkfall beta
- 2 people from Japan have been regularly connecting to Darkfall beta
- 2 eskimos have reached the endgame in open beta? Come on, people. We all want to see Darkfall launch but can we please stop these redicilous stories? They will launch it when it's ready, probably in 6-12 months.
Wrong , DarkFall has no "endgame" like the usual sucker MMO out there, every step in DF will be "Endgame"
Ahh... so fighting those Goblins just outside the Starting city, is the same "Endgame" as 100 vs. 100 Guild City warfare? Or doing that first find 4 Goblin axes quest is the same "Endgame" as building your own Ship and then sailing out with an armada of your buddies to fight an opposing Guild in Naval Combat?
Sorry DarthRaiden, even the most ardent supporters are going to have trouble swallowing that one.
Lol, who are these japanese people? Let me guess, there are 2 of them? Lets see... - Darkfall is developed in Greece
- 2 unknown italian forum guys reviewed Darkfall beta
- 2 people from Japan have been regularly connecting to Darkfall beta
- 2 eskimos have reached the endgame in open beta? Come on, people. We all want to see Darkfall launch but can we please stop these redicilous stories? They will launch it when it's ready, probably in 6-12 months.
Wrong , DarkFall has no "endgame" like the usual sucker MMO out there, every step in DF will be "Endgame"
Damn those lying eskimos..
----------------------------- Originally posted by Frobner "Massive sieges" "mounted combat" and "spellweaving" are just few words that spring to mind when I hear the word AOC.... But the word FAILURE will always top the list.
Lol, who are these japanese people? Let me guess, there are 2 of them? Lets see... - Darkfall is developed in Greece
- 2 unknown italian forum guys reviewed Darkfall beta
- 2 people from Japan have been regularly connecting to Darkfall beta
- 2 eskimos have reached the endgame in open beta? Come on, people. We all want to see Darkfall launch but can we please stop these redicilous stories? They will launch it when it's ready, probably in 6-12 months.
Wrong , DarkFall has no "endgame" like the usual sucker MMO out there, every step in DF will be "Endgame"
Ahh... so fighting those Goblins just outside the Starting city, is the same "Endgame" as 100 vs. 100 Guild City warfare? Or doing that first find 4 Goblin axes quest is the same "Endgame" as building your own Ship and then sailing out with an armada of your buddies to fight an opposing Guild in Naval Combat?
Sorry DarthRaiden, even the most ardent supporters are going to have trouble swallowing that one.
But there is no "concept of endgame" ..both things you mentioned can be really hard to obtain ..
And just imagine you get invited to a Guild that has already the nice ship then it suddenly turns out that "having a ship" is even "easier" to get then "killing 4 goblins" ..thats the nice thing in sandbox ..no defined "endgame" ..
What you meant is maybe ..difficult task and common easy task .. Of course its more difficult to build and man a ship ..but its up to you when and if you do it ..and related to our discussion lets just wait till next Beta report ..
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Lol, who are these japanese people? Let me guess, there are 2 of them? Lets see... - Darkfall is developed in Greece
- 2 unknown italian forum guys reviewed Darkfall beta
- 2 people from Japan have been regularly connecting to Darkfall beta
- 2 eskimos have reached the endgame in open beta? Come on, people. We all want to see Darkfall launch but can we please stop these redicilous stories? They will launch it when it's ready, probably in 6-12 months.
Wrong , DarkFall has no "endgame" like the usual sucker MMO out there, every step in DF will be "Endgame"
Ahh... so fighting those Goblins just outside the Starting city, is the same "Endgame" as 100 vs. 100 Guild City warfare? Or doing that first find 4 Goblin axes quest is the same "Endgame" as building your own Ship and then sailing out with an armada of your buddies to fight an opposing Guild in Naval Combat?
Sorry DarthRaiden, even the most ardent supporters are going to have trouble swallowing that one.
But there is no "concept of endgame" ..both things you mentioned can be really hard to obtain ..
And just imagine you get invited to a Guild that has already the nice ship then it suddenly turns out that "having a ship" is even "easier" to get then "killing 4 goblins" ..thats the nice thing in sandbox ..no defined "endgame" ..
What you meant is maybe ..difficult task and common easy task .. Of course its more difficult to build and man a ship ..but its up to you when and if you do it ..and related to our discussion lets just wait till next Beta report ..
I'll agree that there is no "concept of endgame" as with all Sandbox MMOs.
However, as with every other Sandbox MMO game... there are definitely some things not possible by those that have just started the game. Either the cost or the skill requirement or possibly even the time needed is prohibitive of said action being performed by a First-day new player.
Those are the kinds of activities that the majority of the MMO community would designate as either "Endgame" or "Veteran activities".
Whatever name it goes by... we all know that there are some activites that we will do more often when we start out. These activities will gradually shift to other activites the longer we stay in the game. If that were not so... the game would become very boring for the vast majority of us.
Like most games, you need to play Forumfall a little bit more than just first level before you can really judge it. You only have 17 posts, which means you don't make it to level two for at least another 83 posts. You should give it another chance, and at least make it to level two before deciding one way or the other.
True story. Open beta has already started and will finish as scheduled by early December. These two people from mmorpgitalia have already played Open beta, you just have to travel to Athens to play Open beta ,what are you all waiting for?
People from Japan are also connected to the server and Beta test...
Lol, who are these japanese people? Let me guess, there are 2 of them?
Lets see...
- Darkfall is developed in Greece
- 2 unknown italian forum guys reviewed Darkfall beta
- 2 people from Japan have been regularly connecting to Darkfall beta
- 2 eskimos have reached the endgame in open beta?
Come on, people. We all want to see Darkfall launch but can we please stop these redicilous stories? They will launch it when it's ready, probably in 6-12 months.
Correction you do NOT want df to launch, and stop saying that you do, it only makes you look like a noob
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Lol, who are these japanese people? Let me guess, there are 2 of them? Lets see... - Darkfall is developed in Greece
- 2 unknown italian forum guys reviewed Darkfall beta
- 2 people from Japan have been regularly connecting to Darkfall beta
- 2 eskimos have reached the endgame in open beta? Come on, people. We all want to see Darkfall launch but can we please stop these redicilous stories? They will launch it when it's ready, probably in 6-12 months.
Correction you do NOT want df to launch, and stop saying that you do, it only makes you look like a noob
Jesus.. this place is worse than AoC forums.
Right now I'm trying to find a new game and I would subscribe to DF in a heartbeat if it launched today. If you actually read my posts, you will see that all I'm saying is that Darkfall will not launch anytime soon. I really hope I'm wrong but all the evidence is saying that the "beta" is still on very early stages. Greek devs are not superhumans and they have to go through all the same steps as other devs, and that takes time.
----------------------------- Originally posted by Frobner "Massive sieges" "mounted combat" and "spellweaving" are just few words that spring to mind when I hear the word AOC.... But the word FAILURE will always top the list.
Originally posted by Scaredgirl Lol, who are these japanese people? Let me guess, there are 2 of them? Lets see... - Darkfall is developed in Greece
- 2 unknown italian forum guys reviewed Darkfall beta
- 2 people from Japan have been regularly connecting to Darkfall beta
- 2 eskimos have reached the endgame in open beta? Come on, people. We all want to see Darkfall launch but can we please stop these redicilous stories? They will launch it when it's ready, probably in 6-12 months.
Is this the logic every skeptic here declares we fanboys can't answer to? Do you consider this piece of crap anything that we should consider replying to? Just talking about countries, time after time, scaredgirl seems to be the most bigotted poster in this forums, and that's a big achievement, kudos to you.
Do you really have a problem with other countries than your own? Or should I just "lighten up" and laugh with it as I was told yesterday?
Originally posted by Scaredgirl Lol, who are these japanese people? Let me guess, there are 2 of them? Lets see... - Darkfall is developed in Greece
- 2 unknown italian forum guys reviewed Darkfall beta
- 2 people from Japan have been regularly connecting to Darkfall beta
- 2 eskimos have reached the endgame in open beta? Come on, people. We all want to see Darkfall launch but can we please stop these redicilous stories? They will launch it when it's ready, probably in 6-12 months.
Is this the logic every skeptic here declares we fanboys can't answer to? Do you consider this piece of crap anything that we should consider replying to? Just talking about countries, time after time, scaredgirl seems to be the most bigotted poster in this forums, and that's a big achievement, kudos to you.
Do you really have a problem with other countries than your own? Or should I just "lighten up" and laugh with it as I was told yesterday?
Oh come on, lighten up. I have no problem with other countries or natinalities. I've been to both to Italy and Japan and I love those places. Those 2 countries have the best restaurants I have ever been to. I recommend everyone to visit Rome, Venice or Tokio. Haven't met any eskimos though, they might be assholes, I cannot say.
My point was that I find it funny when every time something happens with DF it's always some 2 random guys from some random country. Maybe we don't have a same kind of sense of humor?
----------------------------- Originally posted by Frobner "Massive sieges" "mounted combat" and "spellweaving" are just few words that spring to mind when I hear the word AOC.... But the word FAILURE will always top the list.
Oh come on, lighten up. I have no problem with other countries or natinalities. I've been to both to Italy and Japan and I love those places. Those 2 countries have the best restaurants I have ever been to. I recommend everyone to visit Rome, Venice or Tokio. Haven't met any eskimos though, they might be assholes, I cannot say. My point was that I find it funny when every time something happens with DF it's always some 2 random guys from some random country. Maybe we don't have a same kind of sense of humor?
just a tip..would help if you stop call them "eskimos" would be a good start cause its an insult
They Inuit and they peacefull and respectfull people..
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Originally posted by Polarization Tasos called this a review, the people who wrote it call it a review. This is what they showed them 1 month from launch, this is what they showed Asp and Yellow beard. This is Darkfall.
My god you must be daft, it also clearly states that they are under NDA and that this is a review of the current state of beta. You obviously have no beta experience either if you think they have all features activated during closed beta.
Oh come on, lighten up. I have no problem with other countries or natinalities. I've been to both to Italy and Japan and I love those places. Those 2 countries have the best restaurants I have ever been to. I recommend everyone to visit Rome, Venice or Tokio. Haven't met any eskimos though, they might be assholes, I cannot say. My point was that I find it funny when every time something happens with DF it's always some 2 random guys from some random country. Maybe we don't have a same kind of sense of humor?
just a tip..would help if you stop call them "eskimos" would be a good start cause its an insult
They Inuit and they peacefull and respectfull people..
'Eskimo' is actually not a derogatory term but is only percieved to be, and is still the best term for describing the entire 'Eskimo population' around the world. Saying they are all 'Inuits' is like calling all Europeans French. Inuit can only be used in certain geographical locations. Dont believe all the PC stuff you hear on TV.
Oh come on, lighten up. I have no problem with other countries or natinalities. I've been to both to Italy and Japan and I love those places. Those 2 countries have the best restaurants I have ever been to. I recommend everyone to visit Rome, Venice or Tokio. Haven't met any eskimos though, they might be assholes, I cannot say. My point was that I find it funny when every time something happens with DF it's always some 2 random guys from some random country. Maybe we don't have a same kind of sense of humor?
just a tip..would help if you stop call them "eskimos" would be a good start cause its an insult
They Inuit and they peacefull and respectfull people..
'Eskimo' is actually not a derogatory term but is only percieved to be, and is still the best term for describing the entire 'Eskimo population' around the world. Saying they are all 'Inuits' is like calling all Europeans French. Inuit can only be used in certain geographical locations. Dont believe all the PC stuff you hear on TV.
well that requires a whole topic but here is not the place for ...
..but would you like to be called "eater of raw meat" ..
the Inuit however are "civilized" enough to perceive that as an insult ...
The other arctic folks you can call then Inuvaluit, Allutiiq, Yuit and however they being called...
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I can tell you that, Von and Mascalzone, the two mod from our forum are now under NDA, they are really in the BETA and maybe we will join them soon.
I'm verry sorry but they really can't speak about the game deeply (obviously we have some more information than mmorpg.com about the game), but i can assure you that the game is really what Tasos says, in almost every aspect.
The two heroes are serious persons and very trustworthy, and if Von says wooooow, it means woooooow.
I'm glad to see that mmorgitalia have this great opportunity to prove that Darkfall isn't vaporware.
Soon we will release vid and some other stuff.
The problem about mmorpg.com is their absolute indifference about the game probably...
Try another time to ask for a visit to Adventurine's studios....
Originally posted by xzyax Ahh... so fighting those Goblins just outside the Starting city, is the same "Endgame" as 100 vs. 100 Guild City warfare? Or doing that first find 4 Goblin axes quest is the same "Endgame" as building your own Ship and then sailing out with an armada of your buddies to fight an opposing Guild in Naval Combat?
Sorry DarthRaiden, even the most ardent supporters are going to have trouble swallowing that one.
I would I say that Darthraiden is correct in saying endgame starts straight away. In a level based game you most certainly will not be raiding end game instances on your first day playing, you would be useless even if you could get into the instance.
In Darkfall there will be nothing to stop you participating in a 100 v 100 guildwar or sailing around on a pirate ship. Your character will not be quite as effective as veterans and you certainly won't be building that guild city or pirate ship yourself but you will not be excluded. You hopefully will not ever be saying to your friends "in a months time I'll be able to play with you".
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Actually there were quite a few of us making just as big of a fuss in Vanguard, PotBS, AoC, WAR, DDO, and pretty much every game that we have followed and Beta-tested.
Perhaps you missed all the people complaing during Vanguard's Beta that they were not allowing anyone to test all their advanced features they had been promising? Turns out we were right.
Perhaps you missed all the people complaining during AoC's Beta that they were not allowing anyone to test the City Sieging and High-Level City Building aspects of the game. Turns out we were right.
Perhaps you missed all the people compaining during WAR's Beta that the way that RvR was designed was not going to work. Turns out we were right.
So yeah... there have been skeptics in pretty much EVERY game's Beta. The issues have been raised about every game when the statements of the Devs are not followed through with reality.
It's not our fault that you seemed to have missed that for every other game... because it was there.
We will continue to question the testing of Housing, City Building, City Seiges, Ship Building, Naval Combat, and all advanced features that have been listed as features of DarkFall. There have been no Beta Tester reports of testing any of that. Every single MMO that I've played has always used the arguement... we want to save something for the players to discover... it's BS.
Everytime those high-end features are POS when we finally get to play them. Why? Because they were NOT tested thoroughly. It's our hope that DarkFall may finally listen and have them actually done and working when they release the game. Is that such a bad thing to want?
I seems that these 2 italian guys were the only ones who ASKED to see the game. Apparently you can go play it if you just call Tasos and ASK.
Aventurine sure knows how to do good marketing. I heard the only way to buy the game when it releases in late 2009 is to fly to Athens, walk to their offices and hand them 40 euros cash.
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Originally posted by Frobner
"Massive sieges" "mounted combat" and "spellweaving" are just few words that spring to mind when I hear the word AOC.... But the word FAILURE will always top the list.
I dont Darkfall's PVP can possibly stink half as bad as Age of Conan / WAR, I was in beta for both of those and it seemed like pvp barely got tested for AoC if at all? WAR we got to test the PVP but common sense / experience would tell anyone that game was going to suffer from balance issues.
Darkfall's pvp sounds very hopeful too me looking at all the positive beta reports where the testers are actually having fun! That is so rare. Finally a developer with the balls to test out the bare bones pvp functionality from start to finish
Sure, I'd like to see the Naval and City sieges get tested too. But I'm more concerned with getting all the core gameplay fleshed out
But I would hope they'd test it completely because I'm sure some hardcore guilds will be ready to build a city after a week or two
Good times I'm excited. Lots of good info finally coming out
I seems that these 2 italian guys were the only ones who ASKED to see the game. Apparently you can go play it if you just call Tasos and ASK.
Aventurine sure knows how to do good marketing. I heard the only way to buy the game when it releases in late 2009 is to fly to Athens, walk to their offices and hand them 40 euros cash.
True story.
Open beta has already started and will finish as scheduled by early December.
These two people from mmorpgitalia have already played Open beta, you just have to travel to Athens to play Open beta ,what are you all waiting for?
I seems that these 2 italian guys were the only ones who ASKED to see the game. Apparently you can go play it if you just call Tasos and ASK.
Aventurine sure knows how to do good marketing. I heard the only way to buy the game when it releases in late 2009 is to fly to Athens, walk to their offices and hand them 40 euros cash.
True story.
Open beta has already started and will finish as scheduled by early December.
These two people from mmorpgitalia have already played Open beta, you just have to travel to Athens to play Open beta ,what are you all waiting for?
Why didn't someone tell me that earlier? I'm on my way.
However, I do need a little help with the 3K for airfare:
Donate to help Ihmotepp get to Greece to play the beta of Darkfall. Paypal accepted.
I seems that these 2 italian guys were the only ones who ASKED to see the game. Apparently you can go play it if you just call Tasos and ASK.
Aventurine sure knows how to do good marketing. I heard the only way to buy the game when it releases in late 2009 is to fly to Athens, walk to their offices and hand them 40 euros cash.
True story.
Open beta has already started and will finish as scheduled by early December.
These two people from mmorpgitalia have already played Open beta, you just have to travel to Athens to play Open beta ,what are you all waiting for?
People from Japan are also connected to the server and Beta test...
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$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Bingo!
No matter how long the Devs think it will take players to get to a certain stage... they are always wrong.
Not testing out every single aspect of the game thoroughly with a good-sized number of real Beta Testers is the number one mistake that almost every single MMO makes.
Hopefully DarkFall will not make the same mistake.
People from Japan are also connected to the server and Beta test...
Lol, who are these japanese people? Let me guess, there are 2 of them?
Lets see...
- Darkfall is developed in Greece
- 2 unknown italian forum guys reviewed Darkfall beta
- 2 people from Japan have been regularly connecting to Darkfall beta
- 2 eskimos have reached the endgame in open beta?
Come on, people. We all want to see Darkfall launch but can we please stop these redicilous stories? They will launch it when it's ready, probably in 6-12 months.
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Originally posted by Frobner
"Massive sieges" "mounted combat" and "spellweaving" are just few words that spring to mind when I hear the word AOC.... But the word FAILURE will always top the list.
Wrong , DarkFall has no "endgame" like the usual sucker MMO out there, every step in DF will be "Endgame"
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Wrong , DarkFall has no "endgame" like the usual sucker MMO out there, every step in DF will be "Endgame"
Ahh... so fighting those Goblins just outside the Starting city, is the same "Endgame" as 100 vs. 100 Guild City warfare? Or doing that first find 4 Goblin axes quest is the same "Endgame" as building your own Ship and then sailing out with an armada of your buddies to fight an opposing Guild in Naval Combat?
Sorry DarthRaiden, even the most ardent supporters are going to have trouble swallowing that one.
Wrong , DarkFall has no "endgame" like the usual sucker MMO out there, every step in DF will be "Endgame"
Damn those lying eskimos..
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Originally posted by Frobner
"Massive sieges" "mounted combat" and "spellweaving" are just few words that spring to mind when I hear the word AOC.... But the word FAILURE will always top the list.
Wrong , DarkFall has no "endgame" like the usual sucker MMO out there, every step in DF will be "Endgame"
Ahh... so fighting those Goblins just outside the Starting city, is the same "Endgame" as 100 vs. 100 Guild City warfare? Or doing that first find 4 Goblin axes quest is the same "Endgame" as building your own Ship and then sailing out with an armada of your buddies to fight an opposing Guild in Naval Combat?
Sorry DarthRaiden, even the most ardent supporters are going to have trouble swallowing that one.
But there is no "concept of endgame" ..both things you mentioned can be really hard to obtain ..
And just imagine you get invited to a Guild that has already the nice ship then it suddenly turns out that "having a ship" is even "easier" to get then "killing 4 goblins" ..thats the nice thing in sandbox ..no defined "endgame" ..
What you meant is maybe ..difficult task and common easy task .. Of course its more difficult to build and man a ship ..but its up to you when and if you do it ..and related to our discussion lets just wait till next Beta report ..
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Wrong , DarkFall has no "endgame" like the usual sucker MMO out there, every step in DF will be "Endgame"
Ahh... so fighting those Goblins just outside the Starting city, is the same "Endgame" as 100 vs. 100 Guild City warfare? Or doing that first find 4 Goblin axes quest is the same "Endgame" as building your own Ship and then sailing out with an armada of your buddies to fight an opposing Guild in Naval Combat?
Sorry DarthRaiden, even the most ardent supporters are going to have trouble swallowing that one.
But there is no "concept of endgame" ..both things you mentioned can be really hard to obtain ..
And just imagine you get invited to a Guild that has already the nice ship then it suddenly turns out that "having a ship" is even "easier" to get then "killing 4 goblins" ..thats the nice thing in sandbox ..no defined "endgame" ..
What you meant is maybe ..difficult task and common easy task .. Of course its more difficult to build and man a ship ..but its up to you when and if you do it ..and related to our discussion lets just wait till next Beta report ..
I'll agree that there is no "concept of endgame" as with all Sandbox MMOs.
However, as with every other Sandbox MMO game... there are definitely some things not possible by those that have just started the game. Either the cost or the skill requirement or possibly even the time needed is prohibitive of said action being performed by a First-day new player.
Those are the kinds of activities that the majority of the MMO community would designate as either "Endgame" or "Veteran activities".
Whatever name it goes by... we all know that there are some activites that we will do more often when we start out. These activities will gradually shift to other activites the longer we stay in the game. If that were not so... the game would become very boring for the vast majority of us.
Like most games, you need to play Forumfall a little bit more than just first level before you can really judge it. You only have 17 posts, which means you don't make it to level two for at least another 83 posts. You should give it another chance, and at least make it to level two before deciding one way or the other.
It'll get released when it gets released, be patient.
People from Japan are also connected to the server and Beta test...
Lol, who are these japanese people? Let me guess, there are 2 of them?
Lets see...
- Darkfall is developed in Greece
- 2 unknown italian forum guys reviewed Darkfall beta
- 2 people from Japan have been regularly connecting to Darkfall beta
- 2 eskimos have reached the endgame in open beta?
Come on, people. We all want to see Darkfall launch but can we please stop these redicilous stories? They will launch it when it's ready, probably in 6-12 months.
Correction you do NOT want df to launch, and stop saying that you do, it only makes you look like a noob
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Correction you do NOT want df to launch, and stop saying that you do, it only makes you look like a noob
Jesus.. this place is worse than AoC forums.
Right now I'm trying to find a new game and I would subscribe to DF in a heartbeat if it launched today. If you actually read my posts, you will see that all I'm saying is that Darkfall will not launch anytime soon. I really hope I'm wrong but all the evidence is saying that the "beta" is still on very early stages. Greek devs are not superhumans and they have to go through all the same steps as other devs, and that takes time.
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Originally posted by Frobner
"Massive sieges" "mounted combat" and "spellweaving" are just few words that spring to mind when I hear the word AOC.... But the word FAILURE will always top the list.
Is this the logic every skeptic here declares we fanboys can't answer to? Do you consider this piece of crap anything that we should consider replying to? Just talking about countries, time after time, scaredgirl seems to be the most bigotted poster in this forums, and that's a big achievement, kudos to you.
Do you really have a problem with other countries than your own? Or should I just "lighten up" and laugh with it as I was told yesterday?
Is this the logic every skeptic here declares we fanboys can't answer to? Do you consider this piece of crap anything that we should consider replying to? Just talking about countries, time after time, scaredgirl seems to be the most bigotted poster in this forums, and that's a big achievement, kudos to you.
Do you really have a problem with other countries than your own? Or should I just "lighten up" and laugh with it as I was told yesterday?
Oh come on, lighten up. I have no problem with other countries or natinalities. I've been to both to Italy and Japan and I love those places. Those 2 countries have the best restaurants I have ever been to. I recommend everyone to visit Rome, Venice or Tokio. Haven't met any eskimos though, they might be assholes, I cannot say.
My point was that I find it funny when every time something happens with DF it's always some 2 random guys from some random country. Maybe we don't have a same kind of sense of humor?
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Originally posted by Frobner
"Massive sieges" "mounted combat" and "spellweaving" are just few words that spring to mind when I hear the word AOC.... But the word FAILURE will always top the list.
just a tip..would help if you stop call them "eskimos" would be a good start cause its an insult
They Inuit and they peacefull and respectfull people..
I suggest you read the story about Minik Wallace
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minik_Wallace
And how bad civilization treated them ..
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My god you must be daft, it also clearly states that they are under NDA and that this is a review of the current state of beta. You obviously have no beta experience either if you think they have all features activated during closed beta.
just a tip..would help if you stop call them "eskimos" would be a good start cause its an insult
They Inuit and they peacefull and respectfull people..
I suggest you read the story about Minik Wallace
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minik_Wallace
And how bad civilization treated them ..
'Eskimo' is actually not a derogatory term but is only percieved to be, and is still the best term for describing the entire 'Eskimo population' around the world. Saying they are all 'Inuits' is like calling all Europeans French. Inuit can only be used in certain geographical locations. Dont believe all the PC stuff you hear on TV.
just a tip..would help if you stop call them "eskimos" would be a good start cause its an insult
They Inuit and they peacefull and respectfull people..
I suggest you read the story about Minik Wallace
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minik_Wallace
And how bad civilization treated them ..
'Eskimo' is actually not a derogatory term but is only percieved to be, and is still the best term for describing the entire 'Eskimo population' around the world. Saying they are all 'Inuits' is like calling all Europeans French. Inuit can only be used in certain geographical locations. Dont believe all the PC stuff you hear on TV.
well that requires a whole topic but here is not the place for ...
..but would you like to be called "eater of raw meat" ..
the Inuit however are "civilized" enough to perceive that as an insult ...
The other arctic folks you can call then Inuvaluit, Allutiiq, Yuit and however they being called...
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"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Hi, i'm from mmorpgitalia.
I can tell you that, Von and Mascalzone, the two mod from our forum are now under NDA, they are really in the BETA and maybe we will join them soon.
I'm verry sorry but they really can't speak about the game deeply (obviously we have some more information than mmorpg.com about the game), but i can assure you that the game is really what Tasos says, in almost every aspect.
The two heroes are serious persons and very trustworthy, and if Von says wooooow, it means woooooow.
I'm glad to see that mmorgitalia have this great opportunity to prove that Darkfall isn't vaporware.
Soon we will release vid and some other stuff.
The problem about mmorpg.com is their absolute indifference about the game probably...
Try another time to ask for a visit to Adventurine's studios....
I would I say that Darthraiden is correct in saying endgame starts straight away. In a level based game you most certainly will not be raiding end game instances on your first day playing, you would be useless even if you could get into the instance.
In Darkfall there will be nothing to stop you participating in a 100 v 100 guildwar or sailing around on a pirate ship. Your character will not be quite as effective as veterans and you certainly won't be building that guild city or pirate ship yourself but you will not be excluded. You hopefully will not ever be saying to your friends "in a months time I'll be able to play with you".