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  • EmhsterEmhster Member UncommonPosts: 913

    I have mixed feelings on that one. Sure it enhance accessibility to some features of the game. Though it might increase the aggressiveness of AH farmers to a point where there other normal players are going to work much harder to find good prices.

  • RydesonRydeson Member UncommonPosts: 3,852

    It's an advantage at the cost of real dollars.. NO different if someone paid Bliz 2.99 for a "macro bot" application that allowed you to earn EXP while sleeping.. Get it now?  The advantage is accessability..

  • RedtahRedtah Member Posts: 23

    Originally posted by wesjr

    ya, thats like saying "the guy with a laptop has an advantage over a Desktop user...."

    I Lol'd

  • MMO_DoubterMMO_Doubter Member Posts: 5,056

    Originally posted by Rydeson

    It's an advantage at the cost of real dollars.. NO different if someone paid Bliz 2.99 for a "macro bot" application that allowed you to earn EXP while sleeping.. Get it now?  The advantage is accessability..

    It's funny you should mention bots, because I was just thinking where this is all leading, and I see no reason why Blizzard wouldn't start selling bot aplications.

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  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Member RarePosts: 14,247

    Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

    Originally posted by Loktofeit

    It's a client for people that want to access the game from a different platform. By your logic, playing from a laptop while away from home is an in-game advantage. The guy with the laptop is actually at more of an advantage than the mobile guy because he doesn't have to pay for an additional client and he has full access to the game instead of limited auction house access.

    It is.

    Are you suggesting they should give away the alternative client for free or are you saying that the game should not be playable on anything other than a desktop Mac or PC?

    One or the other, but preferably the latter. Does equality between players in the game mean nothing to you?

    That last response said volumes about your perception here.

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  • RydesonRydeson Member UncommonPosts: 3,852

    Originally posted by Loktofeit

    Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

    Originally posted by Loktofeit

    It's a client for people that want to access the game from a different platform. By your logic, playing from a laptop while away from home is an in-game advantage. The guy with the laptop is actually at more of an advantage than the mobile guy because he doesn't have to pay for an additional client and he has full access to the game instead of limited auction house access.

    It is.

    Are you suggesting they should give away the alternative client for free or are you saying that the game should not be playable on anything other than a desktop Mac or PC?

    One or the other, but preferably the latter. Does equality between players in the game mean nothing to you?

    That last response said volumes about your perception here.

    Actually it was you that is suggesting it should be FREE.. In your example of the laptop vs desktop.. both are FREE.. The problem is that Blizzard is offering gaming options for a PRICE, or don't you see that?  What if Blizzard charged people access from a 2nd location.. Would that be fair, or would you cry foul?

  • tanoriltanoril Member Posts: 432

    Originally posted by Rydeson

    Originally posted by Loktofeit

    Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

    Originally posted by Loktofeit

    It's a client for people that want to access the game from a different platform. By your logic, playing from a laptop while away from home is an in-game advantage. The guy with the laptop is actually at more of an advantage than the mobile guy because he doesn't have to pay for an additional client and he has full access to the game instead of limited auction house access.

    It is.

    Are you suggesting they should give away the alternative client for free or are you saying that the game should not be playable on anything other than a desktop Mac or PC?

    One or the other, but preferably the latter. Does equality between players in the game mean nothing to you?

    That last response said volumes about your perception here.

    Actually it was you that is suggesting it should be FREE.. In your example of the laptop vs desktop.. both are FREE.. The problem is that Blizzard is offering gaming options for a PRICE, or don't you see that?  What if Blizzard charged people access from a 2nd location.. Would that be fair, or would you cry foul?

    Well first of all, the functionality you're paying for is being able to buy and sell using the app.  Browsing the AH using the app is free.  This is also got to be the first time I've heard of someone use the word 'availability' as a bad thing.  The problem with your argument is the gaming option they are offering through the app isn't some special extra enhancement that you don't already have in game.  You're not getting anything extra paying 2.99.  So in that case they are presenting game functions 'outside of the box'.  It's still the same thing, just presented in a different way.  I know EQ2 (don't know if they do now) had a way for you to chat to guild members outside of the game via website.  Didn't charge for it though.

     

    You're right, they are charging someone to use the functions of the AH via iphone, but what does that have to do with equality?  How does that person using the ah through his/her iphone have more of an advantage over me using the ah in the game?

    I'm more on the side that they probably should make the whole thing free vs charging for it.  Either way though it's not an 'advantage'.

  • CacaphonyCacaphony Member Posts: 738

    I guess this is where im supposed to throw poo at WOW and call it names.  Have a 5 year old tantrum and thrash my arms wildly while yelling and crying.   I suppose im supposed to quote others and bash them for no real reason as at all. 

    I just dont care about some stupid app.  Call me crazy, call me whatever you want.  I dont think some app is worth a hissy fit over.  Oh well.

  • CeridithCeridith Member UncommonPosts: 2,980

    Incoming web bots that will put auctioneer to shame.

  • tanoriltanoril Member Posts: 432

    Originally posted by Ceridith

    Incoming web bots that will put auctioneer to shame.

    That actually brings up a good point.  You can make the argument that those using Auctioneer (addon) have more of an advantage than this app since auctioneer actually gives you tools to manipulate the market.

  • maacaaviityymaacaaviityy Member UncommonPosts: 127

    You can only manage 200 auctions per day. No real player who plays the auction house can settle for 200 auctions per day anyway, so this is useless.

  • RydesonRydeson Member UncommonPosts: 3,852

    Originally posted by tanoril

    Originally posted by Rydeson

    Originally posted by Loktofeit

    Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

    Originally posted by Loktofeit

    It's a client for people that want to access the game from a different platform. By your logic, playing from a laptop while away from home is an in-game advantage. The guy with the laptop is actually at more of an advantage than the mobile guy because he doesn't have to pay for an additional client and he has full access to the game instead of limited auction house access.

    It is.

    Are you suggesting they should give away the alternative client for free or are you saying that the game should not be playable on anything other than a desktop Mac or PC?

    One or the other, but preferably the latter. Does equality between players in the game mean nothing to you?

    That last response said volumes about your perception here.

    Actually it was you that is suggesting it should be FREE.. In your example of the laptop vs desktop.. both are FREE.. The problem is that Blizzard is offering gaming options for a PRICE, or don't you see that?  What if Blizzard charged people access from a 2nd location.. Would that be fair, or would you cry foul?

    Well first of all, the functionality you're paying for is being able to buy and sell using the app.  Browsing the AH using the app is free.  This is also got to be the first time I've heard of someone use the word 'availability' as a bad thing.  The problem with your argument is the gaming option they are offering through the app isn't some special extra enhancement that you don't already have in game.  You're not getting anything extra paying 2.99.  So in that case they are presenting game functions 'outside of the box'.  It's still the same thing, just presented in a different way.  I know EQ2 (don't know if they do now) had a way for you to chat to guild members outside of the game via website.  Didn't charge for it though.

     

    You're right, they are charging someone to use the functions of the AH via iphone, but what does that have to do with equality?  How does that person using the ah through his/her iphone have more of an advantage over me using the ah in the game?

    I'm more on the side that they probably should make the whole thing free vs charging for it.  Either way though it's not an 'advantage'.

    Sorry, but that is EPIC fail argument and response.. you claim you're not getting anything extra.. WRONG.. using a phone app is giving you accessability.. and that gives you an advantage then those that refuse to pay the 3 bucks for it..  The fact is that Blizzard said they would never do that, and they just did..  Two people leave for work at 8am.. One used his phone app he bought for 3 bucks so he can keep up on AH deals.. the other gent does what he suppose to do.. WORK..   Are you telling me that one person doesn't have an advantage over the other?   /cough

  • CeridithCeridith Member UncommonPosts: 2,980

    Originally posted by Muridan

    If you're crying about this you take video games waaaay too seriously.

     

    should we also now cry about people who have the luxury of loggin in at their workplace? or that have laptops and can play from anyplace that has WiFi?

    Anyone who cares that much about the AH is going to have an alt that holds the gold perma logged at an Ah anyway...

     

    Knock it off, ya bunch of babies.

    This feature can be used to buy/sell items from anywhere in the game world, including items in your bank. Finished a resource run? Post your items on the AH without needing to go back to a city. Need a flask, gem, enchant at a dungeon? You can remotely buy and retrieve the item without needing to leave.

    Ingame advantages.

  • jimmyman99jimmyman99 Member UncommonPosts: 3,221

    Originally posted by wesjr

    ya, thats like saying "the guy with a laptop has an advantage over a Desktop user...."

    He certainly does! I mean, a guy on a laptop can play WoW while crapping in the crapper... *blush*

    The guy with a desktop would have to crap his pants to achieve same results... so yeah, definite advantage.

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  • MuridanMuridan Member Posts: 94

    Originally posted by Ceridith

    Originally posted by Muridan

    If you're crying about this you take video games waaaay too seriously.

     

    should we also now cry about people who have the luxury of loggin in at their workplace? or that have laptops and can play from anyplace that has WiFi?

    Anyone who cares that much about the AH is going to have an alt that holds the gold perma logged at an Ah anyway...

     

    Knock it off, ya bunch of babies.

    This feature can be used to buy/sell items from anywhere in the game world, including items in your bank. Finished a resource run? Post your items on the AH without needing to go back to a city. Need a flask, gem, enchant at a dungeon? You can remotely buy and retrieve the item without needing to leave.

    Ingame advantages.

     *yawn*

    It's not a mobile vendor, it's only for the AH.

     

    World of Warcraft AH is serious buisness.

  • djazzydjazzy Member Posts: 3,578

    You know you have an addiction if you use this program, hehe. I don't see anything wrong with this other than I find it silly that you would devote that much of your life into a game.

  • CacaphonyCacaphony Member Posts: 738

    Originally posted by Ceridith

    Originally posted by Muridan

    If you're crying about this you take video games waaaay too seriously.

     

    should we also now cry about people who have the luxury of loggin in at their workplace? or that have laptops and can play from anyplace that has WiFi?

    Anyone who cares that much about the AH is going to have an alt that holds the gold perma logged at an Ah anyway...

     

    Knock it off, ya bunch of babies.

    This feature can be used to buy/sell items from anywhere in the game world, including items in your bank. Finished a resource run? Post your items on the AH without needing to go back to a city. Need a flask, gem, enchant at a dungeon? You can remotely buy and retrieve the item without needing to leave.

    Ingame advantages.

     So?  Are you going to be able to tell that this person used an app to sell his goods? Is his "advantage" going to affect your gameplay in any way?  Are you going to notice some kind of impact?  Are you going to look at this guys wares in the auction house and be able to say... hey... this guy used the app to sell his stuff?   Stop being so hurt over something so stupid.

  • SmatthewsSmatthews Member Posts: 67

    Originally posted by Ceridith

    Originally posted by Muridan

    If you're crying about this you take video games waaaay too seriously.

     

    should we also now cry about people who have the luxury of loggin in at their workplace? or that have laptops and can play from anyplace that has WiFi?

    Anyone who cares that much about the AH is going to have an alt that holds the gold perma logged at an Ah anyway...

     

    Knock it off, ya bunch of babies.

    This feature can be used to buy/sell items from anywhere in the game world, including items in your bank. Finished a resource run? Post your items on the AH without needing to go back to a city. Need a flask, gem, enchant at a dungeon? You can remotely buy and retrieve the item without needing to leave.

    Ingame advantages.

    See I love how people post this stuff without really reading anything.  The items you buy dont just go to you bag, they go to the mailbox just like it would in game.  Sure you can buy a flask in an instance, but you still have to leave to grab it.   And people have done this since the start of the game,nothing new here. It doesn't change anything, just allows you to be more of an auction house player.  And if people already wanted to sit and exploit the AH, they already do so.  

  • jimmyman99jimmyman99 Member UncommonPosts: 3,221

    Originally posted by Ceridith

    Originally posted by Muridan

    If you're crying about this you take video games waaaay too seriously.

     

    should we also now cry about people who have the luxury of loggin in at their workplace? or that have laptops and can play from anyplace that has WiFi?

    Anyone who cares that much about the AH is going to have an alt that holds the gold perma logged at an Ah anyway...

     

    Knock it off, ya bunch of babies.

    This feature can be used to buy/sell items from anywhere in the game world, including items in your bank. Finished a resource run? Post your items on the AH without needing to go back to a city. Need a flask, gem, enchant at a dungeon? You can remotely buy and retrieve the item without needing to leave.

    Ingame advantages.

    You are right and you are wrong here at the same time. This AH tool is a convenience, not a real advantage. I mean, this tool can be compared to an addon like gatherer or healbot, except it costs money. You can STILL do everything in the same way without this addon, you just have to have a bank char perma sitting near AH.

    To me, this is not advantage, this is convenience just like auctioneer, gatherer, healbot and other addons.

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  • DreathorDreathor Member Posts: 537

    I really don't see a reason for all this fuss.

    I expect only people who 'play' the auction house could really get any major benefit from it (being able to relist while at work, for example).

    That said, I don't think it's too major regardless because the app is limited to 200 auctions (or so I heard) and big time AH players have far more than that at any one time (myself included). The UI probably isn't going to allow for very easy canceling and relisting above your competition like addons do either. So I won't be bothering.

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,060

    Originally posted by brokenss

    You always carry your phone with you.

     

    AH farmers will be checking the AH much more frequently.

     

    So if before you could buy / bid / sell at lower / higher prices by just being lucky that your competition was offline,

    and unable to check AH, now you wont be. People with the app will have an advantage IMO.

     

    But then of course, are you really that bothered about what happens to the AH outside of actually playing the game? Me - no at all.

     

    Make sense?

     

    ~Trixx

    I have to say, when I played WOW I was relying on my competition being offline for some period of time giving me a window of opportunity to succeed. (and I made a lot of gold through market trading in the day)

    This application definitely gives an advantage to people who have it and are competing against those who don't in the auction house.  Who says additonal service shouldn't be compensated for?

    But then again, having two EVE accounts (or 3 in my case) has proven to be a definite in game advantage vs people who only have one, but does that mean CCP shouldn't sell them to me if I'm willing to pay?

    No, I'd say if you wish to be competitive in the AH, better plan on forking over the extra bucks. 

     

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  • DonnnyDonnny Member Posts: 40

    Soon you will be able to "dial a level" for a nominal fee and can advance without playing the game at all. I left shortly after BC released and have yet to see any reason to go back.

  • FyendiarFyendiar Member UncommonPosts: 250

    A man stands at a crossroads. The road to the left leads to a world in which everyone is equal, the road to the right leads to a world in which the rich rule the poor. Depending on your world view either way can be the wrong way to go. Those that are against this new feature focus on where the road leads and see disaster. Others look at the step the man made and think "it's just a step, we all take steps, so what's the problem?".

  • RydesonRydeson Member UncommonPosts: 3,852

    Originally posted by jimmyman99

    Originally posted by Ceridith

    Originally posted by Muridan

    If you're crying about this you take video games waaaay too seriously.

     

    should we also now cry about people who have the luxury of loggin in at their workplace? or that have laptops and can play from anyplace that has WiFi?

    Anyone who cares that much about the AH is going to have an alt that holds the gold perma logged at an Ah anyway...

     

    Knock it off, ya bunch of babies.

    This feature can be used to buy/sell items from anywhere in the game world, including items in your bank. Finished a resource run? Post your items on the AH without needing to go back to a city. Need a flask, gem, enchant at a dungeon? You can remotely buy and retrieve the item without needing to leave.

    Ingame advantages.

    You are right and you are wrong here at the same time. This AH tool is a convenience, not a real advantage. I mean, this tool can be compared to an addon like gatherer or healbot, except it costs money. You can STILL do everything in the same way without this addon, you just have to have a bank char perma sitting near AH.

    To me, this is not advantage, this is convenience just like auctioneer, gatherer, healbot and other addons.

    YEAH.. having bionic legs is not an advantage in a marathon, it's a convience.. :)

  • RydesonRydeson Member UncommonPosts: 3,852

    Originally posted by Donnny

    Soon you will be able to "dial a level" for a nominal fee and can advance without playing the game at all. I left shortly after BC released and have yet to see any reason to go back.

    There you go.. Buy a level..  It wouldn't be an advantage, it would be a "CONVIENCE" of not leveling 1-79 as some would like us to believe.. LOL

    EDIT.. Shit while we are at it..lets buy gear too.. I need some ICC uber drops.. It wouldn't be an advantage.. but a CONVIENCE of not having to run that damn dungeon 100 times to get my gear.. LOL

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